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September 05, 2021, 01:20:04 AM
Wow I cannot believe Udonis Haslem is still active. Player-coach type of thing is actually sounds very handy. And he might be great at it.

I also agree that Lakers vs Nets final is very much possible. For years and years, Lakers manages to always get a team with spectacular players. I mean just a team everyone speaks about. I feel like after the last finals, we need some superstars and get a big and more exciting series.
Miami Heat accepted the fact that he is like a supporting player only for years already.
Very soon they might let him go in the roster and put him in the staff. He does bring a lot of energy to the team and the first game in the bubble was the proof of it.

I just realized how fast years fly by a moment ago after I read about other members' opinions.
Suddenly Lebron and Melo are veterans and 3 - 4 more years and they will be retiring and we will be talking about new players with different names. It makes me a bit sad and emotional. I guess some of us here do feel the same way as I do.
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September 05, 2021, 01:02:01 AM
LMA goes to Nets and Deandre Jordan goes to Lakers. I believe both of these moves are useless moves, not like they are going to provide anything more than 10 minutes and probably not every game neither, when they play it will be around 10 minutes but their overall average will be like 6 minutes or so from all the minimum amount of games they play.

These are the type of contracts we call "locker room veteran" and both teams knew that they already have as good of a roster as they could get and wanted to fill the last spot by getting a veteran who would be great for the locker room. Think about Udonis Haslem, dude hasn't been a proper player for years now, but he has been at Miami for so long just because dude is like a player-coach type of thing that helps the team. Lakers vs Nets final is looking more and more likely if everyone stays healthy, it could be one of the most watched ones in recent years.
Wow I cannot believe Udonis Haslem is still active. Player-coach type of thing is actually sounds very handy. And he might be great at it.

I also agree that Lakers vs Nets final is very much possible. For years and years, Lakers manages to always get a team with spectacular players. I mean just a team everyone speaks about. I feel like after the last finals, we need some superstars and get a big and more exciting series.
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September 04, 2021, 11:25:41 PM
So I doubt that he can improved as well in the Lakers since Dwight will be the main center for the team.

I agree with this. DeAndre Jordan is just a name now. The average playing time will be around 10 minutes per game.

Backup for Davis or Howard if they are injured? I doubt. Lakers are playing with no center always. They can do it without a center.

Kendrick Nunn is the best additional player for the Lakers bench. A young player with good 3 points shooting percentage and not even fit as a part of the second squad. He can be a starter too.

Jordan may give some quality minutes coming from the bench, but I believe that it's mostly Howard to play as Center.

The Lakers system is no longer new to Howard he can easily play alongside with Davis and Bron playing with catch and dunk.

And with Rondo, it's more likely that they will use those effective game plays, which are easy for them to execute.
They can let those newcomers to watch and learn, play attention to the rotations and make themselves fit into the system.
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September 04, 2021, 11:00:32 PM
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but I don't expect that Thompson would be back to his old self after getting seriously injured and did not play for 2 seasons.
As long as he still has that shooting touch, he should be fine on his return to competitive basketball. He's not a flashy type of player and he doesn't need a lot of dribbles to pile up points.

~ but Gasol's experience is something.
This one too. He knows how to win big games both in the NBA and international competitions.
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September 04, 2021, 10:43:15 PM
So I doubt that he can improved as well in the Lakers since Dwight will be the main center for the team.

I agree with this. DeAndre Jordan is just a name now. The average playing time will be around 10 minutes per game.

Backup for Davis or Howard if they are injured? I doubt. Lakers are playing with no center always. They can do it without a center.

Kendrick Nunn is the best additional player for the Lakers bench. A young player with good 3 points shooting percentage and not even fit as a part of the second squad. He can be a starter too.
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September 04, 2021, 10:25:18 PM
The impact of LMA with the Nets is not so big compared to the impact of Deandre Jordan to the LA Lakers if he will be healthy, better than Gasol for sure as he is a beast in defense.

Don't get too much hype on DJ mate. He's not even used much in Brooklyn Nets. Or way back before that on Dallas Mavericks.

Back in Lakers, even a healthy Dwight Howard hasn't used in Lakers, the same will goes in DJ even AD or him got injured. We are not in the era anymore where centers are necessary for a lineup.

Right now, he is just an ordinary player on the bench. It got just hyped because of his name. After leaving the Clippers, he's didn't show he is a quality center or forward anymore. That's a 100% fact.

It's because CP3 make him look better when they are in the Clippers, with Blake, that lob city.

But when he moves out and was traded, his value deteriorated and the hype was gone. That's why in Nets he didn't show up or least didn't perform any better. So I doubt that he can improved as well in the Lakers since Dwight will be the main center for the team.
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September 04, 2021, 08:46:04 PM
The impact of LMA with the Nets is not so big compared to the impact of Deandre Jordan to the LA Lakers if he will be healthy, better than Gasol for sure as he is a beast in defense.

Don't get too much hype on DJ mate. He's not even used much in Brooklyn Nets. Or way back before that on Dallas Mavericks.

Back in Lakers, even a healthy Dwight Howard hasn't used in Lakers, the same will goes in DJ even AD or him got injured. We are not in the era anymore where centers are necessary for a lineup.

Right now, he is just an ordinary player on the bench. It got just hyped because of his name. After leaving the Clippers, he's didn't show he is a quality center or forward anymore. That's a 100% fact.
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September 04, 2021, 08:30:58 PM
Also, after KD left, it was a complete rebuild by the GSW, maintaining only their big 3, Curry, Thompson and Green. The rest of the championship team are now gone, maybe except for Andre Iguodala, who is a returning player. Curry was back last year, showing flashes and still at his prime, become the scoring champion, but was eliminated and didn't make it to the playoffs.

But with Klay Thompson back in the team, I think they can make it in this year playoff, but going to the finals will be very difficult as there are a lot of good teams in the West.
Don't forget about Andrew Wiggins. I think he will be better this time if ever the splash brothers will show him how it's done. Those two are scary when they are hot and can be contagious. They could pull Wiggins into being more motivated to win the game rather than just playing around.
Will they be called splash triplets if ever he showed consistency in his game?  Grin I wish Thompson will be back on his old game and not be mentally affected by two consecutive injuries. He was suppose to start the season but was blown by a ruptures Achilles tendon. Reports tell that he may not make a 2021-2022 season debut but possibly in January.
I think Wiggins will become the Harrison Barnes of the team who can be aggressive and help the team to win. As long as the splash brothers will play together, there will be no burden to any player as anyone can shoot and Curry and Thompson are very consistent, so Wiggins will just be a supporting member and he could just enjoy without the pressure of winning.

Yes, but the thing with Wiggins is that is he is a big help last season, and I think he will continue to do so, so they could be triple splash brothers I doubt that the 3 will have an off night together, so maybe 40 ppg minimum between the 3. I love how GSW is underestimate this season because of the power in the Western conference, but they will be the dark horse and it will be nice to bet on them if they are the underdogs in a game.
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September 04, 2021, 05:40:52 PM
LMA goes to Nets and Deandre Jordan goes to Lakers. I believe both of these moves are useless moves, not like they are going to provide anything more than 10 minutes and probably not every game neither, when they play it will be around 10 minutes but their overall average will be like 6 minutes or so from all the minimum amount of games they play.

Yeah, and most likely they already know that, but they agree because it's their ticket to get a championship ring before they retire.

These are the type of contracts we call "locker room veteran" and both teams knew that they already have as good of a roster as they could get and wanted to fill the last spot by getting a veteran who would be great for the locker room. Think about Udonis Haslem, dude hasn't been a proper player for years now, but he has been at Miami for so long just because dude is like a player-coach type of thing that helps the team. Lakers vs Nets final is looking more and more likely if everyone stays healthy, it could be one of the most watched ones in recent years.

Fans are going to be happy to see them in the finals. But we can't really predict because of one factor that you mentioned, health. This are old and ageing players and are prone to injury. But let's hope for the best that no one will get injured by both teams so that we will have a good finals this year.
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September 04, 2021, 05:33:33 PM
LMA goes to Nets and Deandre Jordan goes to Lakers. I believe both of these moves are useless moves, not like they are going to provide anything more than 10 minutes and probably not every game neither, when they play it will be around 10 minutes but their overall average will be like 6 minutes or so from all the minimum amount of games they play.

These are the type of contracts we call "locker room veteran" and both teams knew that they already have as good of a roster as they could get and wanted to fill the last spot by getting a veteran who would be great for the locker room. Think about Udonis Haslem, dude hasn't been a proper player for years now, but he has been at Miami for so long just because dude is like a player-coach type of thing that helps the team. Lakers vs Nets final is looking more and more likely if everyone stays healthy, it could be one of the most watched ones in recent years.
Of course, DeAndre Jordan won't get many minutes on the court, but he might be helpful for the Lakers if Davis and Howard are injured for a long time again. Regarding Haslem, I guess the Heat use him as a mental coach for players, especially for rookies.
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September 04, 2021, 04:24:52 PM
LMA goes to Nets and Deandre Jordan goes to Lakers. I believe both of these moves are useless moves, not like they are going to provide anything more than 10 minutes and probably not every game neither, when they play it will be around 10 minutes but their overall average will be like 6 minutes or so from all the minimum amount of games they play.

These are the type of contracts we call "locker room veteran" and both teams knew that they already have as good of a roster as they could get and wanted to fill the last spot by getting a veteran who would be great for the locker room. Think about Udonis Haslem, dude hasn't been a proper player for years now, but he has been at Miami for so long just because dude is like a player-coach type of thing that helps the team. Lakers vs Nets final is looking more and more likely if everyone stays healthy, it could be one of the most watched ones in recent years.

Wonderful news for the Lakers, they added another big man so they can assure to be better this season. With the current lineup, it's not necessary to add players anymore, the health of the big 3 is more important now and these players who have not tasted a win in the NBA Finals might finally have this one this season.

The impact of LMA with the Nets is not so big compared to the impact of Deandre Jordan to the LA Lakers if he will be healthy, better than Gasol for sure as he is a beast in defense.
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September 04, 2021, 04:21:44 PM
LMA goes to Nets and Deandre Jordan goes to Lakers. I believe both of these moves are useless moves, not like they are going to provide anything more than 10 minutes and probably not every game neither, when they play it will be around 10 minutes but their overall average will be like 6 minutes or so from all the minimum amount of games they play.

These are the type of contracts we call "locker room veteran" and both teams knew that they already have as good of a roster as they could get and wanted to fill the last spot by getting a veteran who would be great for the locker room. Think about Udonis Haslem, dude hasn't been a proper player for years now, but he has been at Miami for so long just because dude is like a player-coach type of thing that helps the team. Lakers vs Nets final is looking more and more likely if everyone stays healthy, it could be one of the most watched ones in recent years.
Good point.

Aside from what they can contribute even it is little or big to the team, they can really utilize them as professional that would contribute the other way.

And that's what you've said like someone who can also play as part of the coaching team with just sort of advises. Mentally, that's a great addition.
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September 04, 2021, 04:16:28 PM
LMA goes to Nets and Deandre Jordan goes to Lakers. I believe both of these moves are useless moves, not like they are going to provide anything more than 10 minutes and probably not every game neither, when they play it will be around 10 minutes but their overall average will be like 6 minutes or so from all the minimum amount of games they play.

These are the type of contracts we call "locker room veteran" and both teams knew that they already have as good of a roster as they could get and wanted to fill the last spot by getting a veteran who would be great for the locker room. Think about Udonis Haslem, dude hasn't been a proper player for years now, but he has been at Miami for so long just because dude is like a player-coach type of thing that helps the team. Lakers vs Nets final is looking more and more likely if everyone stays healthy, it could be one of the most watched ones in recent years.
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September 04, 2021, 03:38:20 PM
I also hear that the Nets are sending DeAndre Jordan to the Pistons, where he’s likely to be bought out and sign with the Lakers for his last attempt at securing a title.

If one of those two teams doesn’t win it all this year, there’s going to be a lot of angry veterans.
Not the Pistons man but the Lakers eventually!
After being traded from the Brooklyn Nets to the Detroit Pistons, DeAndre Jordan's formally agreed to a buyout with the Michigan franchise.  According to ESPN, Jordan intends to sign an agreement with the Los Angeles Lakers once the paperwork regarding his current contract is completed to become a free agent for all intents and purposes.

Yeah, that's the rumor that I've seen on the news.

And it is likely that with just 1 year contract, I think it's surely a buff to the Lakers. We'll see if things and negotiations are already done.

Hmmm, a lot of things going with the Lakers.
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September 04, 2021, 03:08:16 PM

I think Wiggins will become the Harrison Barnes of the team who can be aggressive and help the team to win. As long as the splash brothers will play together, there will be no burden to any player as anyone can shoot and Curry and Thompson are very consistent, so Wiggins will just be a supporting member and he could just enjoy without the pressure of winning.

I remember Barnes who gives additional aggressiveness back then or another Shaun Livingston who gives quality time for resting splash Bro.

Iggy is back he will help Dray tower their defense while the splash bro are mainly in charge for their offense,

Wiggins needs to find his role. He can help both ends, just like how Livingston helps the Warrior's way bay back.
Offense and defense whatever the team needs him to provide.

The report that the Warriors General Manager hung up the phone on the Philadelphia 76ers GM when he called to offer a trade involving Simmons for Wiggins definitely makes it seem like the Warriors are glad to have Wiggins and are expecting him to be a contributing piece of the team for some time. 

He must be thinking of the future development of Wiggins, and they know better which player suits the team, and although I see that Simmons is better but I trust their decision as being te General Manager, he knows better on what's good for his team.
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September 04, 2021, 03:01:26 PM

I think Wiggins will become the Harrison Barnes of the team who can be aggressive and help the team to win. As long as the splash brothers will play together, there will be no burden to any player as anyone can shoot and Curry and Thompson are very consistent, so Wiggins will just be a supporting member and he could just enjoy without the pressure of winning.

I remember Barnes who gives additional aggressiveness back then or another Shaun Livingston who gives quality time for resting splash Bro.

Iggy is back he will help Dray tower their defense while the splash bro are mainly in charge for their offense,

Wiggins needs to find his role. He can help both ends, just like how Livingston helps the Warrior's way bay back.
Offense and defense whatever the team needs him to provide.

The report that the Warriors General Manager hung up the phone on the Philadelphia 76ers GM when he called to offer a trade involving Simmons for Wiggins definitely makes it seem like the Warriors are glad to have Wiggins and are expecting him to be a contributing piece of the team for some time. 
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September 04, 2021, 02:09:45 PM
Clippers are silent and just moved players once for Eric Bledsoe. I think they are building chemistry instead of rebuilding the team which is a great idea.
They may come back stronger especially if they can improve Terrance Mann's confidence.

Might be good, might also be bad.
The Clippers have missed 2 consecutive NBA finals trip during the Leonard and PG13 emergence in LA.
It's not really a bad idea If they want to solidify their team chemistry, but teams in the west are also improving. The Suns could beat them again with the same roster.
IMO, they should look for a better fit for PG and Leonard as well.
The Lakers and the Nets are stacking superstar vets. These veterans cannot be underestimated. They can still play, and still knows how to play. Age is just a number anyway. Remember Parker, Ginobili, and Duncan who are still able to get a ring late in their career.
Age is just a number with the dedication and determination to win the title, Both Russ and Melo are eager to win and this is their chance pairing with LeBron and Davis, with the comeback of both Howard and Rondo they are now a complete with ages all stars.

On the clipper's side, It's better to try working together again, with their own big 3 PG, Batum and Leonard can influence
their young teammates to play well with them.

We might see them standing as good contender they are just silently moving and working to keep them inside the playoff.
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September 04, 2021, 11:54:38 AM
I remember Barnes who gives additional aggressiveness back then or another Shaun Livingston who gives quality time for resting splash Bro.

Iggy is back he will help Dray tower their defense while the splash bro are mainly in charge for their offense,

Wiggins needs to find his role. He can help both ends, just like how Livingston helps the Warrior's way bay back.
Offense and defense whatever the team needs him to provide.
Bro did you just read my mind. When I was writing about Wiggins I was thinking about Livingston. It seems like Shaun did a lot silently for the Warriors with just his good defense and a little bit contribution on the offense. He was not a great player but he is always at the right place at the right time.
Yes, maybe Wiggins could do the same. The expectations for being the number 1 draft pick could've suffocated him and that is why he didn't perform well during his Twolves time. (inconsistent)
James Wiseman is also expected to return this season. It's going to be on full blast GSW again with their roster back to a healthy position. I hope.
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September 04, 2021, 11:15:33 AM
I also hear that the Nets are sending DeAndre Jordan to the Pistons, where he’s likely to be bought out and sign with the Lakers for his last attempt at securing a title.

If one of those two teams doesn’t win it all this year, there’s going to be a lot of angry veterans.
Not the Pistons man but the Lakers eventually!
After being traded from the Brooklyn Nets to the Detroit Pistons, DeAndre Jordan's formally agreed to a buyout with the Michigan franchise.  According to ESPN, Jordan intends to sign an agreement with the Los Angeles Lakers once the paperwork regarding his current contract is completed to become a free agent for all intents and purposes.
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September 04, 2021, 09:16:21 AM

I think Wiggins will become the Harrison Barnes of the team who can be aggressive and help the team to win. As long as the splash brothers will play together, there will be no burden to any player as anyone can shoot and Curry and Thompson are very consistent, so Wiggins will just be a supporting member and he could just enjoy without the pressure of winning.

I remember Barnes who gives additional aggressiveness back then or another Shaun Livingston who gives quality time for resting splash Bro.

Iggy is back he will help Dray tower their defense while the splash bro are mainly in charge for their offense,

Wiggins needs to find his role. He can help both ends, just like how Livingston helps the Warrior's way bay back.
Offense and defense whatever the team needs him to provide.
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