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Probably because Chris Paul is also check too by Jrue Holiday. Jrue made a lot of adjustments guarding Chris Paul, he meet him early and pressure him before the mid line and this makes Paul alley hoop somewhat not working anymore as he is contested even with his jump shot. And the thing with Bucks is that they have big men that clogged the middle, with Lopez and Giannis playing at the same time. You can only draw either of the two, so if Ayton draw Lopez out, there's no one to make an alley hoop. And yes, last 2 games, Chris Paul has committed a lot of turnovers, again this is due to the fact of Bucks cutting him at every corners and angles.

Yes, I forgot about that, thanks for the reminder. I tried watching the replay to see what the Suns are really lacking in Game 4. They got the lead but had difficulties stopping the 4th quarter run of the Bucks led by Middleton.
It was mostly turnovers that got them in trouble. They didn't notice is but they already got 17 turnovers before they finish the game while on the other hand the Bucks protected the ball so well they only had 5. Defense is almost identical. 9 blocks for the Suns led by Jae Crowder with 3 steals and 11 steals for the Bucks.
It just means CP3 is not keeping the ball protected if their turnover is higher than their past games. If Suns want to win another game it's just CP3 they needed to be back on high end performance.

Suns are lucky they got Booker going, I'm not sure if Suns can still win a home game in game 5, it's a very critical game for them as the pressure is already on them. If you look at the Bucks scoring, they are improving but on the Suns they are not, especially on Ayton who is not anymore producing points.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 15, 2021, 06:36:35 AM

Probably because Chris Paul is also check too by Jrue Holiday. Jrue made a lot of adjustments guarding Chris Paul, he meet him early and pressure him before the mid line and this makes Paul alley hoop somewhat not working anymore as he is contested even with his jump shot. And the thing with Bucks is that they have big men that clogged the middle, with Lopez and Giannis playing at the same time. You can only draw either of the two, so if Ayton draw Lopez out, there's no one to make an alley hoop. And yes, last 2 games, Chris Paul has committed a lot of turnovers, again this is due to the fact of Bucks cutting him at every corners and angles.

Yes, I forgot about that, thanks for the reminder. I tried watching the replay to see what the Suns are really lacking in Game 4. They got the lead but had difficulties stopping the 4th quarter run of the Bucks led by Middleton.
It was mostly turnovers that got them in trouble. They didn't notice is but they already got 17 turnovers before they finish the game while on the other hand the Bucks protected the ball so well they only had 5. Defense is almost identical. 9 blocks for the Suns led by Jae Crowder with 3 steals and 11 steals for the Bucks.
It just means CP3 is not keeping the ball protected if their turnover is higher than their past games. If Suns want to win another game it's just CP3 they needed to be back on high end performance.

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The missing key for the Bucks this Finals, Khris Middleton. After a worst performance on Game 1 and 2, he erased the thinking of his doubters.

Playing infront of a thousands Bucks audience fans, that gives him the adrenalin to step up on the game.

Want to see him playing that kind of ballgame as an Away team on Game 5.

He was just too inconsistent, one night he dropped 30 points, the other night he will only make 10 points, that's who he is now, but we hope he will have a big game on the road where it's important for them to win, but anyway, there's always Giannis who will remain consistent in this series, so bucks still have a great chance of winning the series.

It's because Giannis is taking the most of the offense scoring 40 or more points in the last 3 games. So somewhat him and Jrue are in the background. But they did contribute in game 3 and in the last game it was Middleton who take care of the offense with crucial shots and then Giannis doing his thing the usual with that monster block and a good steal. So yes, since the series is already tied 2-2, the Bucks has a good chance to win specially if they steal the next game in Suns home court.

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Middleton really surprised me that's for sure. He didn't play much good in the previous games in the series. But he's finally started gathering himself up. He did a huge job in this game by scoring 40 points.

I'm not surprised though, I saw him produce big-time points in the previous rounds, I would only be surprised if he will keep that accuracy until the series is over. Game 5 is another big challenge for them as they'll be travelling on the road again where they have not won a game yet.

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 15, 2021, 02:12:48 PM

But I wonder whether he will keep up the good work until the end of the series. He doesn't need to score 40+ points in every game. Scoring even 25+ or so would be a great help to the team.

Let's find out in game 5, at least he already made some adjustments and proved to the Suns he can drop 40 points on their defence.

I agree, it is expected of Middleton to really bring the best out of him in this final series, and finally he delivered big for the Bucks to at least ease the load on Giannis to produce 40+ ppg. He is the second option in offense and the Bucks should be happy for his performance.

Now, if he is going to continue, wait for game 5, they are a good road team, so if still has the mentally and aggressiveness, he can definitely product that numbers, so it will be like 70 points in between Giannis and Middleton alone and that gonna be huge for the Bucks going on Phoenix home court.

the pressure is pass now to Phoenix Suns after Bucks get the momentum already. Middleton always choke every big games he play and this is the first time to see him perform well in crucial game(except regular season). Suns players is already struggling on there defense after Giannis break there spirit to fight. This series is already over if they can't a solution to Giannis dominating performance. They are focus already on Giannis that's why Bucks other key player are free to move.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 15, 2021, 04:57:17 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 15, 2021, 02:12:48 PM

Middleton really surprised me that's for sure. He didn't play much good in the previous games in the series. But he's finally started gathering himself up. He did a huge job in this game by scoring 40 points.

I'm not surprised though, I saw him produce big-time points in the previous rounds, I would only be surprised if he will keep that accuracy until the series is over. Game 5 is another big challenge for them as they'll be travelling on the road again where they have not won a game yet.

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 15, 2021, 02:12:48 PM

But I wonder whether he will keep up the good work until the end of the series. He doesn't need to score 40+ points in every game. Scoring even 25+ or so would be a great help to the team.

Let's find out in game 5, at least he already made some adjustments and proved to the Suns he can drop 40 points on their defence.

I agree, it is expected of Middleton to really bring the best out of him in this final series, and finally he delivered big for the Bucks to at least ease the load on Giannis to produce 40+ ppg. He is the second option in offense and the Bucks should be happy for his performance.

Now, if he is going to continue, wait for game 5, they are a good road team, so if still has the mentally and aggressiveness, he can definitely product that numbers, so it will be like 70 points in between Giannis and Middleton alone and that gonna be huge for the Bucks going on Phoenix home court.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 15, 2021, 02:12:48 PM

Middleton really surprised me that's for sure. He didn't play much good in the previous games in the series. But he's finally started gathering himself up. He did a huge job in this game by scoring 40 points.

I'm not surprised though, I saw him produce big-time points in the previous rounds, I would only be surprised if he will keep that accuracy until the series is over. Game 5 is another big challenge for them as they'll be travelling on the road again where they have not won a game yet.

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 15, 2021, 02:12:48 PM

But I wonder whether he will keep up the good work until the end of the series. He doesn't need to score 40+ points in every game. Scoring even 25+ or so would be a great help to the team.

Let's find out in game 5, at least he already made some adjustments and proved to the Suns he can drop 40 points on their defence.

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Quote from: agustina2 on July 15, 2021, 02:02:35 PM

The missing key for the Bucks this Finals, Khris Middleton. After a worst performance on Game 1 and 2, he erased the thinking of his doubters.

Playing infront of a thousands Bucks audience fans, that gives him the adrenalin to step up on the game.

Want to see him playing that kind of ballgame as an Away team on Game 5.

He was just too inconsistent, one night he dropped 30 points, the other night he will only make 10 points, that's who he is now, but we hope he will have a big game on the road where it's important for them to win, but anyway, there's always Giannis who will remain consistent in this series, so bucks still have a great chance of winning the series.

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Bucks just destroyed Suns in the last game and finally got their first win in the series. Giannis didn't surprise me by scoring 40+ points again. Holiday and Middleton were also a little better in this game. But there wasn't even single person who managed to score 20+ points at Suns. That also made the difference.

Tonight, we're going to see the 4th game in Milwaukee again. And I expect another win for Bucks and Giannis to score at least 35 points.

Same here, I expect for the series to be tied with the Bucks win, well, if Giannis will score 35 points or even less, I'm okay with that as long as Holiday and Middleton will step up and both of them will score at least 20 points. But wait, what if Lopez will again score 30 points? that would be nice, right?

I'd like to see Middleton though taking charge of the offense and not put it all on Giannis shoulder. Giannis can only do that much, but Middleton as the second scoring options should be the one scoring 30+ points. Holiday already provided the offense on game 3. Now it's time for Middleton to carry the load again just like what he did against the Hawks and the Nets series.

As I have said, Khris Middleton are going to explode this game and boy he did as he save the Bucks from a supposedly 1-3 and it could be over in the next game. Middleton scores 40 points and that block of Giannis was huge as the Phoenix could have tie the score. It was a perfect pass from Booker, but Giannis use his length to block it.

Now it's time for the Suns to make the adjustments in game 5. Giannis is unstoppable, he is average like 30+ points in this series. Suns pick and roll is no longer effective, not sure what kind of adjustments they have to make, but it's now on the hands of Paul and Booker to respond.

Middleton really surprised me that's for sure. He didn't play much good in the previous games in the series. But he's finally started gathering himself up. He did a huge job in this game by scoring 40 points. But I wonder whether he will keep up the good work until the end of the series. He doesn't need to score 40+ points in every game. Scoring even 25+ or so would be a great help to the team.

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The missing key for the Bucks this Finals, Khris Middleton. After a worst performance on Game 1 and 2, he erased the thinking of his doubters.

Playing infront of a thousands Bucks audience fans, that gives him the adrenalin to step up on the game.

Want to see him playing that kind of ballgame as an Away team on Game 5.

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Bucks just destroyed Suns in the last game and finally got their first win in the series. Giannis didn't surprise me by scoring 40+ points again. Holiday and Middleton were also a little better in this game. But there wasn't even single person who managed to score 20+ points at Suns. That also made the difference.

Tonight, we're going to see the 4th game in Milwaukee again. And I expect another win for Bucks and Giannis to score at least 35 points.

Same here, I expect for the series to be tied with the Bucks win, well, if Giannis will score 35 points or even less, I'm okay with that as long as Holiday and Middleton will step up and both of them will score at least 20 points. But wait, what if Lopez will again score 30 points? that would be nice, right?

I'd like to see Middleton though taking charge of the offense and not put it all on Giannis shoulder. Giannis can only do that much, but Middleton as the second scoring options should be the one scoring 30+ points. Holiday already provided the offense on game 3. Now it's time for Middleton to carry the load again just like what he did against the Hawks and the Nets series.

As I have said, Khris Middleton are going to explode this game and boy he did as he save the Bucks from a supposedly 1-3 and it could be over in the next game. Middleton scores 40 points and that block of Giannis was huge as the Phoenix could have tie the score. It was a perfect pass from Booker, but Giannis use his length to block it.

Now it's time for the Suns to make the adjustments in game 5. Giannis is unstoppable, he is average like 30+ points in this series. Suns pick and roll is no longer effective, not sure what kind of adjustments they have to make, but it's now on the hands of Paul and Booker to respond.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 15, 2021, 06:36:35 AM

Probably because Chris Paul is also check too by Jrue Holiday. Jrue made a lot of adjustments guarding Chris Paul, he meet him early and pressure him before the mid line and this makes Paul alley hoop somewhat not working anymore as he is contested even with his jump shot. And the thing with Bucks is that they have big men that clogged the middle, with Lopez and Giannis playing at the same time. You can only draw either of the two, so if Ayton draw Lopez out, there's no one to make an alley hoop. And yes, last 2 games, Chris Paul has committed a lot of turnovers, again this is due to the fact of Bucks cutting him at every corners and angles.

Holiday contest Paul as he really stick on him, knowing how tight the defense he's putting it's a tough job for Paul to break.

Very effective limiting Paul for only 10 points and continue committing mistakes, though his offense is not that productive, thanks to Middleton heroic night, that last few minutes really intense Middleton brings the big shot while Giannis block Ayton above, very clean and for sure really unexpected from both Booker and Ayton that Giannis will reached that with a clean stop.

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bucks finally realize how to close a game properly, even though the suns are clicking, the bucks control the game in the fourth quarter, and Middleton and Giannis, show the suns that they are not easy to beat, now that the series is tied, the suns task is not to stop Giannis, they need to stop Middleton, because he is really one of the player who is killing them in a close game like that, if they the bucks will surely get the pivotal game 5

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Last night Giannis simply was on another level so I think Bucks really found a weakness of Suns that they know how to manage it and where to profit from out in order to take the win and maybe to turn the series in their favor. Also we must appreciate Khris who played amazing but he really must maintain this high level for the rest of the series.

The pressure now moved from Bucks on Suns shoulders and let's see how they will respond in game 5. Did they have the right answer in offensive ? I have some doubts now after I saw game 4 last night.

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I think Ayton with 17 rebounds did his job on the glass, but he’s gotta do better shooting from the field than that. No excuse for only scoring 6 points. He puts up his usual % from the field and it’s a tie game. The Suns have ridden DeAndre hard all playoffs and I think they need to go to him and let him punish Giannis down low if they want to win. Next game this Saturday. It will determine who has their back against the wall…

It's like they forgot about the alley-oop plays for him. When he stretches those arms, who knows who could reach it but I am sure someone will commit a foul. It was CP3 who always made plays for him but I never saw that anymore, most of the time he turn the ball over (4 today) and being careless when scrambling the painted area.
Perhaps they should try a post-up game now. Bucks already knew it will just be Booker and CP3 as the center of their offense. Time to adjust a new strategy for Coach Monty.

Probably because Chris Paul is also check too by Jrue Holiday. Jrue made a lot of adjustments guarding Chris Paul, he meet him early and pressure him before the mid line and this makes Paul alley hoop somewhat not working anymore as he is contested even with his jump shot. And the thing with Bucks is that they have big men that clogged the middle, with Lopez and Giannis playing at the same time. You can only draw either of the two, so if Ayton draw Lopez out, there's no one to make an alley hoop. And yes, last 2 games, Chris Paul has committed a lot of turnovers, again this is due to the fact of Bucks cutting him at every corners and angles.

Suns are less effective if CP3 is limited, I like what the Bucks are doing, they showed how good they are defensively, and though the odds for winning the championship still favors the Suns, I think the momentum is already on the Bucks and they could win this series without a doubt.

Before game 4, it was CP3 who is the favorite to win the Finals MVP, but now the odds have changed.

The updated odds on Finals MVP are Giannis 2.10, CP3 with 2.70, and Booker 3.40.

Imagine if you bet on Giannis to be finals MVP after game 2. Yould should get a good odds.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 15, 2021, 06:36:35 AM

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 15, 2021, 05:22:31 AM

I think Ayton with 17 rebounds did his job on the glass, but he’s gotta do better shooting from the field than that. No excuse for only scoring 6 points. He puts up his usual % from the field and it’s a tie game. The Suns have ridden DeAndre hard all playoffs and I think they need to go to him and let him punish Giannis down low if they want to win. Next game this Saturday. It will determine who has their back against the wall…

It's like they forgot about the alley-oop plays for him. When he stretches those arms, who knows who could reach it but I am sure someone will commit a foul. It was CP3 who always made plays for him but I never saw that anymore, most of the time he turn the ball over (4 today) and being careless when scrambling the painted area.
Perhaps they should try a post-up game now. Bucks already knew it will just be Booker and CP3 as the center of their offense. Time to adjust a new strategy for Coach Monty.

Probably because Chris Paul is also check too by Jrue Holiday. Jrue made a lot of adjustments guarding Chris Paul, he meet him early and pressure him before the mid line and this makes Paul alley hoop somewhat not working anymore as he is contested even with his jump shot. And the thing with Bucks is that they have big men that clogged the middle, with Lopez and Giannis playing at the same time. You can only draw either of the two, so if Ayton draw Lopez out, there's no one to make an alley hoop. And yes, last 2 games, Chris Paul has committed a lot of turnovers, again this is due to the fact of Bucks cutting him at every corners and angles.

Suns are less effective if CP3 is limited, I like what the Bucks are doing, they showed how good they are defensively, and though the odds for winning the championship still favors the Suns, I think the momentum is already on the Bucks and they could win this series without a doubt.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 15, 2021, 06:19:43 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on July 15, 2021, 05:22:31 AM

I think Ayton with 17 rebounds did his job on the glass, but he’s gotta do better shooting from the field than that. No excuse for only scoring 6 points. He puts up his usual % from the field and it’s a tie game. The Suns have ridden DeAndre hard all playoffs and I think they need to go to him and let him punish Giannis down low if they want to win. Next game this Saturday. It will determine who has their back against the wall…

It's like they forgot about the alley-oop plays for him. When he stretches those arms, who knows who could reach it but I am sure someone will commit a foul. It was CP3 who always made plays for him but I never saw that anymore, most of the time he turn the ball over (4 today) and being careless when scrambling the painted area.
Perhaps they should try a post-up game now. Bucks already knew it will just be Booker and CP3 as the center of their offense. Time to adjust a new strategy for Coach Monty.

Probably because Chris Paul is also check too by Jrue Holiday. Jrue made a lot of adjustments guarding Chris Paul, he meet him early and pressure him before the mid line and this makes Paul alley hoop somewhat not working anymore as he is contested even with his jump shot. And the thing with Bucks is that they have big men that clogged the middle, with Lopez and Giannis playing at the same time. You can only draw either of the two, so if Ayton draw Lopez out, there's no one to make an alley hoop. And yes, last 2 games, Chris Paul has committed a lot of turnovers, again this is due to the fact of Bucks cutting him at every corners and angles.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 15, 2021, 06:19:43 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on July 15, 2021, 05:22:31 AM

I think Ayton with 17 rebounds did his job on the glass, but he’s gotta do better shooting from the field than that. No excuse for only scoring 6 points. He puts up his usual % from the field and it’s a tie game. The Suns have ridden DeAndre hard all playoffs and I think they need to go to him and let him punish Giannis down low if they want to win. Next game this Saturday. It will determine who has their back against the wall…

It's like they forgot about the alley-oop plays for him. When he stretches those arms, who knows who could reach it but I am sure someone will commit a foul. It was CP3 who always made plays for him but I never saw that anymore, most of the time he turn the ball over (4 today) and being careless when scrambling the painted area.
Perhaps they should try a post-up game now. Bucks already knew it will just be Booker and CP3 as the center of their offense. Time to adjust a new strategy for Coach Monty.

They should or else this series will end in 6 games at the homecourt of the Bucks declaring them as the NBA Finals winner. Bucks are more physical in every game, especially Giannis, he is getting those rebounds and he also blocks shots so the Suns' offense is coming from outside which is a low percentage compared to shooting inside.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 15, 2021, 05:22:31 AM

I think Ayton with 17 rebounds did his job on the glass, but he’s gotta do better shooting from the field than that. No excuse for only scoring 6 points. He puts up his usual % from the field and it’s a tie game. The Suns have ridden DeAndre hard all playoffs and I think they need to go to him and let him punish Giannis down low if they want to win. Next game this Saturday. It will determine who has their back against the wall…

It's like they forgot about the alley-oop plays for him. When he stretches those arms, who knows who could reach it but I am sure someone will commit a foul. It was CP3 who always made plays for him but I never saw that anymore, most of the time he turn the ball over (4 today) and being careless when scrambling the painted area.
Perhaps they should try a post-up game now. Bucks already knew it will just be Booker and CP3 as the center of their offense. Time to adjust a new strategy for Coach Monty.

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Quote from: Jating on July 15, 2021, 05:26:40 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on July 15, 2021, 05:22:31 AM

I think Ayton with 17 rebounds did his job on the glass, but he’s gotta do better shooting from the field than that. No excuse for only scoring 6 points. He puts up his usual % from the field and it’s a tie game. The Suns have ridden DeAndre hard all playoffs and I think they need to go to him and let him punish Giannis down low if they want to win. Next game this Saturday. It will determine who has their back against the wall…

He has some good looks I think in the first quarter when they had a switch, I think it's against Jrue Holiday or Pat Connaughton and surprisingly, they didn't foul him. I don't think he can do one on one against Giannis though, and usually when he got the ball in the middle, he was double or even triple team. Credits to the Bucks for that come from behind victory, I thought that the Suns have it in their bag, but the Bucks becomes aggressive and hit those critical shots specially Middleton.

Now this series gets more interesting, I almost had a heart attack as I thought the Suns will get the 3-1 advantage, but thanks to Middleton he was really aggressive and he scored his highest so far in the series. Booker supposedly fouled out already on Holiday's drive, but I don't know why refs didn't cool, I think that was the talk now.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 15, 2021, 05:22:31 AM

I think Ayton with 17 rebounds did his job on the glass, but he’s gotta do better shooting from the field than that. No excuse for only scoring 6 points. He puts up his usual % from the field and it’s a tie game. The Suns have ridden DeAndre hard all playoffs and I think they need to go to him and let him punish Giannis down low if they want to win. Next game this Saturday. It will determine who has their back against the wall…

He has some good looks I think in the first quarter when they had a switch, I think it's against Jrue Holiday or Pat Connaughton and surprisingly, they didn't foul him. I don't think he can do one on one against Giannis though, and usually when he got the ball in the middle, he was double or even triple team. Credits to the Bucks for that come from behind victory, I thought that the Suns have it in their bag, but the Bucks becomes aggressive and hit those critical shots specially Middleton.

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