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July 14, 2021, 12:54:46 PM
Is it just me or is anyone else more excited or more interested in the Olympic basketball games than they are the championships going on right now?  This championship series, while I have been paying attention, is about as boring as I've ever seen.  I feel like the winner should almost have an asterisk.  I think we can probably all agree that if all the players on the Nets were healthy, they would EASILY be in the championship right now.  Not to mention all of the other players who were hurt in the playoffs on other teams.
For me it's okay to have some change. Different faces. It's fun when the game is unpredictable, not that I want to lose all my bets because of the wrong predictions.  Grin It still gives some excitement but it cannot be compared when the game becomes international. There are a lot of good players out there and even the new MVP is an international player from Serbia.

Suns or Bucks winning this series will be a new story just like how Dirk Nowitzki claimed that trophy when everybody didn't even expect it.
It's just not in the blueprint.  Cheesy
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July 14, 2021, 11:44:32 AM
Is it just me or is anyone else more excited or more interested in the Olympic basketball games than they are the championships going on right now?  This championship series, while I have been paying attention, is about as boring as I've ever seen.  I feel like the winner should almost have an asterisk.  I think we can probably all agree that if all the players on the Nets were healthy, they would EASILY be in the championship right now.  Not to mention all of the other players who were hurt in the playoffs on other teams.

Yeah unfortunately beard, Kylie and Durant all couldn't stay on the court.  That's a beast of a team if/when they can.  No way this Bucks team beats a prime Nets team.  Honestly I'm ready for the draft and the Vegas summer league.  Always liked watching the young guns dual it out in that league.  Would be great to go see live in what amounts to an empty gym.
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July 14, 2021, 10:14:21 AM
Is it just me or is anyone else more excited or more interested in the Olympic basketball games than they are the championships going on right now?  This championship series, while I have been paying attention, is about as boring as I've ever seen.  I feel like the winner should almost have an asterisk.  I think we can probably all agree that if all the players on the Nets were healthy, they would EASILY be in the championship right now.  Not to mention all of the other players who were hurt in the playoffs on other teams.
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July 14, 2021, 10:09:12 AM

This is what I'm saying too to my Suns fan boy friend. Deandre Ayton is not doing well on his defense. His foul trouble makes him scared to tighten his defense. He needs to regain again his confidence and the rhythm of his game just like what he did on there previous dominating game. Maybe Monty Williams figured out a way to lockdown him.

The very advantage of Giannis inside and with Lopez also pressuring the threat Ayton is having problems with his defense.

Crowder may slow Giannis a bit but with how we seen his aggressiveness it's a pain in the ass from each Suns big man to guard him, Giannis creating space for himself and the only thing to stop him is by fouling him.

Coach Williams needs to comes up for something that will really gives some weight for Giannis, Bucks will eat them alive once the offensive performances of both Holiday and Middleton jive back with Giannis.
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July 14, 2021, 09:34:00 AM
Giannis low scoring performance in game one is because he is too cautious he might get injured if he forces things, he might be testing the waters if there is something wrong with those legs, but maybe he feels nothing wrong that is why his performance gone up during the last two games, and we might be surprised if he levels up again, I hope he will be more dominant and have the fire at finishing games, and free throws of course

He will always be dominant throughout this series. Why? It's very evident, even in game 1 where he was too cautious not to get injured again, he still had a stellar performance. In game 2 he managed to score 40+ points, but his team mates didn't stepped up. And again, 40+ points in game 3.
Obviously nobody could stop Giannis against any other Suns, even Ayton.
But they cannot win with Giannis alone. If his team won't step up they'll most probably lost this series. Game 2 says its all.
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July 14, 2021, 08:59:36 AM
Giannis low scoring performance in game one is because he is too cautious he might get injured if he forces things, he might be testing the waters if there is something wrong with those legs, but maybe he feels nothing wrong that is why his performance gone up during the last two games, and we might be surprised if he levels up again, I hope he will be more dominant and have the fire at finishing games, and free throws of course

Indeed! that game 1 performance are just testing the injury if it's going to hurt him badly but after that game he comes
up solid and really push everything up, I'm sure he will continue to play like that.

He's now on his prime maturities affects him not just an scoring machine but he's also giving himself that right attitude each
time he  is playing around with his teammates.

Game 4 at home still giving Bucks a high odds, ML @ 1.53 and handicap -4.5 @ 1.90.
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July 14, 2021, 08:09:15 AM
No, the defense of the Suns has really improved, getting rattled because of the fans is not a big excuse as they have been playing in different court as a player, they are used to it already. Let's just say that the Bucks were more inspired as they are at home and game 3 was a do or die game for them as they know they'll not be able to come back in the series if they'll lose.
The Suns' defense has been a failure because they can't handle Giannis, and the only way to stop him is to foul him. If you check stats, you will see that Giannis made a lot of free throws during all games of the final series. Regarding the influence of fans on game results, it worth noting that this is the first final for most players from both teams. Playing in the regular season and playing in the final series are two different things, especially from an emotional point of view.

This is what I'm saying too to my Suns fan boy friend. Deandre Ayton is not doing well on his defense. His foul trouble makes him scared to tighten his defense. He needs to regain again his confidence and the rhythm of his game just like what he did on there previous dominating game. Maybe Monty Williams figured out a way to lockdown him.
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July 14, 2021, 08:03:22 AM
Giannis low scoring performance in game one is because he is too cautious he might get injured if he forces things, he might be testing the waters if there is something wrong with those legs, but maybe he feels nothing wrong that is why his performance gone up during the last two games, and we might be surprised if he levels up again, I hope he will be more dominant and have the fire at finishing games, and free throws of course
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July 14, 2021, 08:00:53 AM
No, the defense of the Suns has really improved, getting rattled because of the fans is not a big excuse as they have been playing in different court as a player, they are used to it already. Let's just say that the Bucks were more inspired as they are at home and game 3 was a do or die game for them as they know they'll not be able to come back in the series if they'll lose.
The Suns' defense has been a failure because they can't handle Giannis, and the only way to stop him is to foul him. If you check stats, you will see that Giannis made a lot of free throws during all games of the final series. Regarding the influence of fans on game results, it worth noting that this is the first final for most players from both teams. Playing in the regular season and playing in the final series are two different things, especially from an emotional point of view.
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July 14, 2021, 07:27:29 AM
The question to ask is if the Greek Giant will be able to keep up.
He had been consistent for the past 3 games against the Suns.
Game 1 - 20 points 17 rebounds - he just came back from a hyper extended knee.
Game 2 - 42 points
Game 3 - 41 points
I think keeping up is not his problem but it's his team mates that are having trouble finding their own rhythm to help him out. I want to see Giannis not being forced for an outside shot because the guards of the Bucks are already providing it for him.
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July 14, 2021, 05:19:43 AM
For Game 4, before placing a bet, I would focus a lot on the Suns' defensive problem that needs to be solved quickly; I think that for the next game the Suns need a different Booker than the one who fights with his aim and closes with 10 points and 3/14 on his shot, ending up in serious criticism while becoming the most watched man in view of Game 4.
Because of this, and if the Greek God will keep rockin', I believe the Bucks can win another important game even though this time with less than 10 points difference. Do you share my view?

The simple explanation could  be he was rattled by the Bucks fans. It's not their home anymore and he might have been used to people cheering for him but not in Game 3. He will adjust to it, that's how players are after a lost. It's the Bucks that needs to be careful when Booker starts to get used with the noisy crowd behind him and against them. Holiday will be dealing with him and I bet it will also wore him down running both offense and defense for the team.
Middleton should take over if that incident happens. He should also know the plays for the team because Holiday can't carry that load for the whole 48 minutes.

No, the defense of the Suns has really improved, getting rattled because of the fans is not a big excuse as they have been playing in different court as a player, they are used to it already. Let's just say that the Bucks were more inspired as they are at home and game 3 was a do or die game for them as they know they'll not be able to come back in the series if they'll lose.

Fans have big factor in the game they can distract the focus of a player especially if they create more sound and taunting gestures towards the player, thats why we have homecourt advantage and players are happy to play there home because they know they will be hype up by the cheer of their home crowd. Although they are trained to this but still players have emotion so provably they are been destructed at that time and also the bucks are also heating up at that moment.
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July 14, 2021, 05:07:16 AM
Can we leave USA Olympics out of here? Let's focus on the NBA Finals guys  Wink

For Game 4, before placing a bet, I would focus a lot on the Suns' defensive problem that needs to be solved quickly; I think that for the next game the Suns need a different Booker than the one who fights with his aim and closes with 10 points and 3/14 on his shot, ending up in serious criticism while becoming the most watched man in view of Game 4.
Because of this, and if the Greek God will keep rockin', I believe the Bucks can win another important game even though this time with less than 10 points difference. Do you share my view?

The simple explanation could  be he was rattled by the Bucks fans. It's not their home anymore and he might have been used to people cheering for him but not in Game 3. He will adjust to it, that's how players are after a lost. It's the Bucks that needs to be careful when Booker starts to get used with the noisy crowd behind him and against them. Holiday will be dealing with him and I bet it will also wore him down running both offense and defense for the team.
Middleton should take over if that incident happens. He should also know the plays for the team because Holiday can't carry that load for the whole 48 minutes.

No, the defense of the Suns has really improved, getting rattled because of the fans is not a big excuse as they have been playing in different court as a player, they are used to it already. Let's just say that the Bucks were more inspired as they are at home and game 3 was a do or die game for them as they know they'll not be able to come back in the series if they'll lose.
It's not just being inspired, I believe. It's about having a player that can score so many points and be decisive in the most important moments of the game. That's not just inspiration! That's to have a genius in your team that can easily switch the game flow in your favor!
The question to ask is if the Greek Giant will be able to keep up.
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July 14, 2021, 04:24:15 AM
I'm not following the USA games, but I saw some news related to the games and I confess I was surprised the USA lost. Even though they don't have the best players, the USA team has enough capacity to win every game. I believe, maybe the team isn't tuning in, or maybe some players aren't playing seriously.
They are still a powerhouse team.

Without those superstars that we know, I won't say that they don't have the best players. They still got the best from their roster but they lack of the other superstars that most fans knew that has been mentioned.
I don't think that how the USA is playing right now is their full potential. I believe that they are hiding on their sleeves and after all, that is only an exhibition game.
They might get some criticisms but they don't care. What's important is that they will be at their best when the Olympic happened.

On the other hand, this just shows that USA can be beaten. I still remember the time where they are seeing USA as the bets to win championship because they have the best players in the planet but other countries are coping up already and they can match against a powerhouse country in USA. After all, I agree that they are a powerhouse team though Smiley.
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July 14, 2021, 04:01:35 AM
It's possible, they have the momentum, and it will be in their home court. And Giannis is playing like a true MVP so it will be a good NBA finals that we are seeing.
For me, the Suns are still favorites in this series, and I hope CP3 will be able to win the first title in his career. Nevertheless, I agree with you that Giannis looks like MVP. If he scores 40+ points again in the upcoming game, he most likely will be nominated as MVP of the NBA final regardless of the outcome of this series.

I think CP3 will probably take MVP honors if the Suns win but I don’t think DeAndre Ayton’s impact can be stressed enough. He needs to stay out of foul trouble and they should take the next one. If Giannis does manage to bring the Bucks a championship though, he’s the clear MVP. I’m glad this series has become competitive, but I would’ve liked to have seen the Suns in 4.

Agree, Ayton still lack of experience on playing against veteran player on defending. Booker has more impact rather than him besides CP3 ofc. I wonder if Giannis can maintain this kind of performance through out game 7 because it's very exhausting to do this continuosly especially hits him on one there games.

That's why he is called the Greek Freak, he is really something isn't it? I have seen him in game 1 and game 2 taking huge breaths so it means he is really tired, but as you can see he is performing very well in this series with 40+ point performance.

Ayton said though that he is getting better because of CP3 help, he just needed another positive reinforcement to have a good game. Will be a good match up against Giannis, but I still think that he can score and rebound more. Let's see next game, either CP3, Booker and Ayton need to have a good game.
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July 14, 2021, 03:39:33 AM
I'm not following the USA games, but I saw some news related to the games and I confess I was surprised the USA lost. Even though they don't have the best players, the USA team has enough capacity to win every game. I believe, maybe the team isn't tuning in, or maybe some players aren't playing seriously.
They are still a powerhouse team.

Without those superstars that we know, I won't say that they don't have the best players. They still got the best from their roster but they lack of the other superstars that most fans knew that has been mentioned.
Actually I believe they have lost the last 2 games. Lots of talent but maybe not playing with any chemistry.
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July 14, 2021, 03:30:24 AM
I'm not following the USA games, but I saw some news related to the games and I confess I was surprised the USA lost. Even though they don't have the best players, the USA team has enough capacity to win every game. I believe, maybe the team isn't tuning in, or maybe some players aren't playing seriously.
They are still a powerhouse team.

Without those superstars that we know, I won't say that they don't have the best players. They still got the best from their roster but they lack of the other superstars that most fans knew that has been mentioned.
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July 14, 2021, 12:21:26 AM
It's possible, they have the momentum, and it will be in their home court. And Giannis is playing like a true MVP so it will be a good NBA finals that we are seeing.
For me, the Suns are still favorites in this series, and I hope CP3 will be able to win the first title in his career. Nevertheless, I agree with you that Giannis looks like MVP. If he scores 40+ points again in the upcoming game, he most likely will be nominated as MVP of the NBA final regardless of the outcome of this series.

I think CP3 will probably take MVP honors if the Suns win but I don’t think DeAndre Ayton’s impact can be stressed enough. He needs to stay out of foul trouble and they should take the next one. If Giannis does manage to bring the Bucks a championship though, he’s the clear MVP. I’m glad this series has become competitive, but I would’ve liked to have seen the Suns in 4.

Agree, Ayton still lack of experience on playing against veteran player on defending. Booker has more impact rather than him besides CP3 ofc. I wonder if Giannis can maintain this kind of performance through out game 7 because it's very exhausting to do this continuosly especially hits him on one there games.
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July 13, 2021, 11:05:35 PM
It's possible, they have the momentum, and it will be in their home court. And Giannis is playing like a true MVP so it will be a good NBA finals that we are seeing.
For me, the Suns are still favorites in this series, and I hope CP3 will be able to win the first title in his career. Nevertheless, I agree with you that Giannis looks like MVP. If he scores 40+ points again in the upcoming game, he most likely will be nominated as MVP of the NBA final regardless of the outcome of this series.

I think CP3 will probably take MVP honors if the Suns win but I don’t think DeAndre Ayton’s impact can be stressed enough. He needs to stay out of foul trouble and they should take the next one. If Giannis does manage to bring the Bucks a championship though, he’s the clear MVP. I’m glad this series has become competitive, but I would’ve liked to have seen the Suns in 4.

I can't find what is the outright for CP3 to win the MVP and so is Giannis, I'm thinking of betting on it.

You can look at below:



It's on sportsbet.io, just go to Outrights tab.

Still, the underdog is Giannis and the Bucks in this NBA finals, so the race is between the two leaders of their respective teams. Might change a bit though if the Bucks are going to win the next game and tie the series. If you really wanted to bet on Giannis, better put it right away.
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July 13, 2021, 10:08:46 PM
It's possible, they have the momentum, and it will be in their home court. And Giannis is playing like a true MVP so it will be a good NBA finals that we are seeing.
For me, the Suns are still favorites in this series, and I hope CP3 will be able to win the first title in his career. Nevertheless, I agree with you that Giannis looks like MVP. If he scores 40+ points again in the upcoming game, he most likely will be nominated as MVP of the NBA final regardless of the outcome of this series.

I think CP3 will probably take MVP honors if the Suns win but I don’t think DeAndre Ayton’s impact can be stressed enough. He needs to stay out of foul trouble and they should take the next one. If Giannis does manage to bring the Bucks a championship though, he’s the clear MVP. I’m glad this series has become competitive, but I would’ve liked to have seen the Suns in 4.

I can't find what is the outright for CP3 to win the MVP and so is Giannis, I'm thinking of betting on it.

But I do agree that CP3 will probably take the MVP honors if the Suns win, but Booker and Ayton are of a big help for the point guard.

On the other hand, if Giannis continue his bully-ball and scored 40 points or more again in a Bucks series, most likely he will win the MVP if it's Bucks who are going to be crown. Bucks winning will tie the series and make it a best of 3, but still the advantage will be on Suns side because of the home court.
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July 13, 2021, 09:00:40 PM
However in that case we will see Curry-Lillard-Klay line up with draymond and whoever, assume you are playing them, how are you going to play "old school" in that situation, suns are not like that but it is still very new school and it is not easy to play that way with that team.
Did I say defensive old school? I think I didn't mention that.
The Bucks can win this as long as they stop those plays and go "old-school" hoops as you said. They could try the Spurs plays before with Tim Duncan dominating the perimeter and inside the paint.
Height advantage is their key. Even if Giannis shoots a perimeter shot while being defended by Capela, Lopez has a high percentage for an offensive rebound as long Giannis will pull Capela out as much as he can.
Yes, I didn't.
It's the offensive style that I am trying to explain. Old school slow but with high proficiency. But when back to defense they should try stopping the transition plays and Giannis is not a slow player so he could easily go back to his post.

The line-up that you told has that weakness too. Height. And that's what I am trying to say that is the weakness of Suns if only Ayton can protect the rim. Giannis and Lopez could go old-school post-up game and terrorize Ayton in the paint.
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