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Quote from: Botnake on April 22, 2021, 05:00:15 PM

Their stars will actually play, that's according to the news that was published 6 hours ago.

A fresh news I missed it. Thanks for updating.

With that I will change my statement above and Celtics now have more chance to beat the Phoenix Suns. The line now moved from 2.8 to 2.0. Look at the impact of that news. But will stay on my stand that they are nothing against the healthy Suns if most of their superstars will not play on that game.

Hopefully they will play so we can see an exciting game.

Let us not expect Jaylen Brown to play here, I'm not sure if that's the latest update, but regardless, Celtics still stand a chance here, so it's good to see that both are playing healthy. I'll just enjoy watching the game, but I'm not putting a bet on this game.

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Jaylen Brown (left shoulder) will not suit up for Thursday's game vs. the Suns, as expected.

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Quote from: Botnake on April 22, 2021, 05:00:15 PM

Their stars will actually play, that's according to the news that was published 6 hours ago.

A fresh news I missed it. Thanks for updating.

With that I will change my statement above and Celtics now have more chance to beat the Phoenix Suns. The line now moved from 2.8 to 2.0. Look at the impact of that news. But will stay on my stand that they are nothing against the healthy Suns if most of their superstars will not play on that game.

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Celtics don't stand a chance. Suns is on-fire and they are playing good recently.

You can never make a conclusion here, Celtics loves to challenge good teams and they are hungry for a win. Both teams are 8-2 (w-L) in their last 10 games and Celtics are playing at hom, I guess Celtics has a good chance here.

You might missing the point that most Celtics superstars won't play on that game.

Or if you missed it browse some news. Celtics won't be given an odds over 2 if they are healthy.

That 8-2 record of Celtics on their last games involves their superstar.

Their stars will actually play, that's according to the news that was published 6 hours ago.

Celtics injury report: Jayson Tatum and Kemba Walker in, Jaylen Brown doubtful vs. Suns Thursday

Jaylen Brown doubtful, but he might play in this game, however, even if without him, as long as Tatum, Smart and Walker is there, I guess they looked like a complete team.

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Celtics don't stand a chance. Suns is on-fire and they are playing good recently.

You can never make a conclusion here, Celtics loves to challenge good teams and they are hungry for a win. Both teams are 8-2 (w-L) in their last 10 games and Celtics are playing at hom, I guess Celtics has a good chance here.

You might missing the point that most Celtics superstars won't play on that game.

Or if you missed it browse some news. Celtics won't be given an odds over 2 if they are healthy.

That 8-2 record of Celtics on their last games involves their superstar.

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Quote from: Dave1 on April 22, 2021, 07:10:54 AM

Boston Celtics vs Phoenix Suns, Boston huge underdog in this match @2.80. Suns on a two game winning streak.

Celtics don't stand a chance. Suns is on-fire and they are playing good recently.
But if there's something in your mind that it's worth to risk for Celtics, then you can follow it.

You can never make a conclusion here, Celtics loves to challenge good teams and they are hungry for a win. Both teams are 8-2 (w-L) in their last 10 games and Celtics are playing at hom, I guess Celtics has a good chance here.

Celtics is one of the team in the East I admire the most because of their passion to win despite of being a young team. But this game right here against the Suns seems difficult for them because Injuries are bugging the NBAthis whole season and the Celtics are no exemption.
Jaylen, Tatum, and Fournier these guys are all questionable for today's game.
While the Suns probably has the healthy roster.
I don't know let's see what happens to the game.

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Boston Celtics vs Phoenix Suns, Boston huge underdog in this match @2.80. Suns on a two game winning streak.

Celtics don't stand a chance. Suns is on-fire and they are playing good recently.

But if there's something in your mind that it's worth to risk for Celtics, then you can follow it.

You can never make a conclusion here, Celtics loves to challenge good teams and they are hungry for a win. Both teams are 8-2 (w-L) in their last 10 games and Celtics are playing at hom, I guess Celtics has a good chance here.

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There are upset called in the first place.

We can only call it an upset if one team is the heavy favorite, but line has changed, opened at +6.5, now only +1.5 for the Celtics.

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Do you think that the Celtics, who is a underdog can pull a upset here? They are still in the 6th place just behind Atlanta Hawks. Or the powerful West team can win with a (-5.5) handicap?

No Jayson Tatum, No Kemba Walker, No Jaylen Brown, Celtics will be too easy to handle for the Phoenix Suns.

On their first meeting, Sunx able to hold Celtics with a 10 point lead with Tatum and Kemba on board.

Don't risk for Moneyline with them.

Completely agree. Phoenix maybe on a second leg of a back to back but with the Celtics without those 3 I don't think they will even be able to crack 100 against the suns here. Suns are not a dark horse but they are my dark horse to win the entire chip this year. Like picking a Longshot (besides the Knicks:)) to run with.

You like an underrated team,..same here, nobody is talking about them beacuse all eyes are looking at the Nets and the Lakers, but look how good the Suns are, they could get into the top 1 before the regular season ends. Lots of improvement on the competition this year, it's hard to predict who will win the NBA finals or who will advance.

I've suffered since 1999 watching them year in year out. Gut themselves with eddy curry type trades. Rely on the likes of vets at the end of their career to be starters, and Isiah completely gutting the team. Marbury and Stevie Francis in one backcourt oh that was special lol. And then watching LeBron tell the world he was taking his talents to South Beach:(. Getting the 9th draft pick in the draft when steph was taken 8th. Completely sucking in 1st position in the zion draft and get rj instead (although I love rj, just like zion much more). It's been a rough ride for sure. But you ain't a fan unless you've been through the hard times.

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Quote from: Dave1 on April 22, 2021, 07:10:54 AM

Boston Celtics vs Phoenix Suns, Boston huge underdog in this match @2.80. Suns on a two game winning streak.

Celtics don't stand a chance. Suns is on-fire and they are playing good recently.

But if there's something in your mind that it's worth to risk for Celtics, then you can follow it.

There are upset called in the first place.

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Its unfortunate night for trae young and it gives a confident to knicks since their star is not on the court and hawks really feels what they missed in trae's absence. Hopefully its not a serious injury and he can able to step back as soon as possible.

But still kodus to D.Rose and Randle for stepping up since they show knicks could possibly dominate in play offs if their rooster is all healthy.

Don't worry about it, it's not serious according to the news, so that means he will be back in this season, if not in the regular season then probably in the playoffs.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2939375-trae-young-helped-to-locker-room-with-apparent-ankle-injury-in-hawks-vs-knicks

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Trae Young Ankle Injury X-Rays Negative After Being Helped off Court

Regular season is weird, some teams are playing much better than they normally are, and some teams are playing much worse than what they really are. Look at Suns, Utah, New York and you will see teams that are good in the regular season. However when the playoffs come, there won't be any of that, teams like Bucks, Sixers, Lakers, Clippers and the likes will be fighting for a finals chance, at the finals anything could happen but at the first round I am sure that all these overachieving teams will try very hard to go to second round, most will not be even able to.

This is why everyone should ignore the regular season standings, it may show a story, but the reality is very much different than the story regular standings tell. I do not know if Lebron or AD will come back for playoffs but you really think Lakers are as bad as the standings say? That's just one example.

Sus and New York has not been in the playoffs for a while, so we can't make a conclusion that they will not play well in the playoffs, but it's better because we have less expectation to the team that they will make it, but getting into the playoffs is a big success already, all they have to do is to improve every season until they'll curve their way to the playoffs and make a reputation.

I definitely wouldn’t be counting out the Suns or Jazz. I think they’ve both proven themselves to be building strong teams over a multi-year period. I think both of those teams have a good chance to make it to the second round. New York I’m not so sure about, but they’ve been playing great lately for sure.

Suns is with Paul, we know how good he is in the playoffs, so definitely they could compete in the NBA Finals, so as the Jazz because they have improve now and they are an experience playoff team already, Mitchell just to get back healthy again and JC should be consistent like what he is doing in the regular season.

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Quote from: jaberwock on April 22, 2021, 03:18:07 PM

This is why everyone should ignore the regular season standings, it may show a story, but the reality is very much different than the story regular standings tell.

You are quite right as after season, everything will be 0-0 standings. But Suns and Knicks will be a new addition so there's a surprise.

But in terms of betting, I disagree with you. The regular season standing is a reference for those who are betting on a Series match.

And those teams you mentioned that will fight for the Finals are already stacked so they are common picks. There should be no ignoring the regular season standing. It's a good basis for gamblers that will put a bet on the First Round of Playoffs especially Series or Per Game betting.

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Its unfortunate night for trae young and it gives a confident to knicks since their star is not on the court and hawks really feels what they missed in trae's absence. Hopefully its not a serious injury and he can able to step back as soon as possible.

But still kodus to D.Rose and Randle for stepping up since they show knicks could possibly dominate in play offs if their rooster is all healthy.

Don't worry about it, it's not serious according to the news, so that means he will be back in this season, if not in the regular season then probably in the playoffs.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2939375-trae-young-helped-to-locker-room-with-apparent-ankle-injury-in-hawks-vs-knicks

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Trae Young Ankle Injury X-Rays Negative After Being Helped off Court

Regular season is weird, some teams are playing much better than they normally are, and some teams are playing much worse than what they really are. Look at Suns, Utah, New York and you will see teams that are good in the regular season. However when the playoffs come, there won't be any of that, teams like Bucks, Sixers, Lakers, Clippers and the likes will be fighting for a finals chance, at the finals anything could happen but at the first round I am sure that all these overachieving teams will try very hard to go to second round, most will not be even able to.

This is why everyone should ignore the regular season standings, it may show a story, but the reality is very much different than the story regular standings tell. I do not know if Lebron or AD will come back for playoffs but you really think Lakers are as bad as the standings say? That's just one example.

Sus and New York has not been in the playoffs for a while, so we can't make a conclusion that they will not play well in the playoffs, but it's better because we have less expectation to the team that they will make it, but getting into the playoffs is a big success already, all they have to do is to improve every season until they'll curve their way to the playoffs and make a reputation.

I definitely wouldn’t be counting out the Suns or Jazz. I think they’ve both proven themselves to be building strong teams over a multi-year period. I think both of those teams have a good chance to make it to the second round. New York I’m not so sure about, but they’ve been playing great lately for sure.

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Quote from: jaberwock on April 22, 2021, 03:18:07 PM

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Its unfortunate night for trae young and it gives a confident to knicks since their star is not on the court and hawks really feels what they missed in trae's absence. Hopefully its not a serious injury and he can able to step back as soon as possible.

But still kodus to D.Rose and Randle for stepping up since they show knicks could possibly dominate in play offs if their rooster is all healthy.

Don't worry about it, it's not serious according to the news, so that means he will be back in this season, if not in the regular season then probably in the playoffs.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2939375-trae-young-helped-to-locker-room-with-apparent-ankle-injury-in-hawks-vs-knicks

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Trae Young Ankle Injury X-Rays Negative After Being Helped off Court

Regular season is weird, some teams are playing much better than they normally are, and some teams are playing much worse than what they really are. Look at Suns, Utah, New York and you will see teams that are good in the regular season. However when the playoffs come, there won't be any of that, teams like Bucks, Sixers, Lakers, Clippers and the likes will be fighting for a finals chance, at the finals anything could happen but at the first round I am sure that all these overachieving teams will try very hard to go to second round, most will not be even able to.

This is why everyone should ignore the regular season standings, it may show a story, but the reality is very much different than the story regular standings tell. I do not know if Lebron or AD will come back for playoffs but you really think Lakers are as bad as the standings say? That's just one example.

Sus and New York has not been in the playoffs for a while, so we can't make a conclusion that they will not play well in the playoffs, but it's better because we have less expectation to the team that they will make it, but getting into the playoffs is a big success already, all they have to do is to improve every season until they'll curve their way to the playoffs and make a reputation.

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Quote from: Sled on April 22, 2021, 05:13:38 AM

Quote from: arwin100 on April 22, 2021, 04:43:02 AM

Its unfortunate night for trae young and it gives a confident to knicks since their star is not on the court and hawks really feels what they missed in trae's absence. Hopefully its not a serious injury and he can able to step back as soon as possible.

But still kodus to D.Rose and Randle for stepping up since they show knicks could possibly dominate in play offs if their rooster is all healthy.

Don't worry about it, it's not serious according to the news, so that means he will be back in this season, if not in the regular season then probably in the playoffs.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2939375-trae-young-helped-to-locker-room-with-apparent-ankle-injury-in-hawks-vs-knicks

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Trae Young Ankle Injury X-Rays Negative After Being Helped off Court

Regular season is weird, some teams are playing much better than they normally are, and some teams are playing much worse than what they really are. Look at Suns, Utah, New York and you will see teams that are good in the regular season. However when the playoffs come, there won't be any of that, teams like Bucks, Sixers, Lakers, Clippers and the likes will be fighting for a finals chance, at the finals anything could happen but at the first round I am sure that all these overachieving teams will try very hard to go to second round, most will not be even able to.

This is why everyone should ignore the regular season standings, it may show a story, but the reality is very much different than the story regular standings tell. I do not know if Lebron or AD will come back for playoffs but you really think Lakers are as bad as the standings say? That's just one example.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on April 22, 2021, 07:45:24 AM

I know a lot of people don't consider Randle a star but the dude beasts everyone night in a nd night out on the court.

He is. He was brought to Knicks to be a star. But last season did not show as good games as he was expected. I guess he needed some time to acclimate. Also last season was short for the teams that was not able to qualify for the bubble. I see the biggest leap this season he made with assists he almost doubled his average from 3 to 6 per game. This shows that also his teammates play better.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 21, 2021, 02:47:58 PM

Anthony Davis will be back in uniform for the Lakers against the Dallas Mavericks tomorrow. A long time coming. Will be great to see them get LeBron back soon for a nice Finals run. They’ve both been missed recently as the Lakers have dropped quite a few spots out west. I still like their odds overall, as the Nets haven’t gotten much time together playing as their new team (although with that much talent it might not matter).

It is definitely good news for the Lakers, but Davis is still questionable for the upcoming game against the Mavs. And it looks like the Lakers will be going to restrict Davis' minutes on the court during the first games after returning because he will need some time to adapt after a long absence.

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Do you think that the Celtics, who is a underdog can pull a upset here? They are still in the 6th place just behind Atlanta Hawks. Or the powerful West team can win with a (-5.5) handicap?

No Jayson Tatum, No Kemba Walker, No Jaylen Brown, Celtics will be too easy to handle for the Phoenix Suns.

On their first meeting, Sunx able to hold Celtics with a 10 point lead with Tatum and Kemba on board.

Don't risk for Moneyline with them.

Completely agree. Phoenix maybe on a second leg of a back to back but with the Celtics without those 3 I don't think they will even be able to crack 100 against the suns here. Suns are not a dark horse but they are my dark horse to win the entire chip this year. Like picking a Longshot (besides the Knicks:)) to run with.

You like an underrated team,..same here, nobody is talking about them beacuse all eyes are looking at the Nets and the Lakers, but look how good the Suns are, they could get into the top 1 before the regular season ends. Lots of improvement on the competition this year, it's hard to predict who will win the NBA finals or who will advance.

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Quote from: Dave1 on April 22, 2021, 07:10:54 AM

Do you think that the Celtics, who is a underdog can pull a upset here? They are still in the 6th place just behind Atlanta Hawks. Or the powerful West team can win with a (-5.5) handicap?

No Jayson Tatum, No Kemba Walker, No Jaylen Brown, Celtics will be too easy to handle for the Phoenix Suns.

On their first meeting, Sunx able to hold Celtics with a 10 point lead with Tatum and Kemba on board.

Don't risk for Moneyline with them.

Completely agree. Phoenix maybe on a second leg of a back to back but with the Celtics without those 3 I don't think they will even be able to crack 100 against the suns here. Suns are not a dark horse but they are my dark horse to win the entire chip this year. Like picking a Longshot (besides the Knicks:)) to run with.

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Quote from: Dave1 on April 22, 2021, 07:10:54 AM

Do you think that the Celtics, who is a underdog can pull a upset here? They are still in the 6th place just behind Atlanta Hawks. Or the powerful West team can win with a (-5.5) handicap?

No Jayson Tatum, No Kemba Walker, No Jaylen Brown, Celtics will be too easy to handle for the Phoenix Suns.

On their first meeting, Sunx able to hold Celtics with a 10 point lead with Tatum and Kemba on board.

Don't risk for Moneyline with them.

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The New York Knicks is getting straight wins which take them into 4th spot in the Eastern Conference by beating the Atlanta Hawks today in the overtime. Looks like the few games left will be hard for those who are in the tight spot because every team right now is playing as we've never seen before.

Correct.
Even with teams at high seeds will need to take care of every games they will play.
Every win is a must to avoid the play-in tournament. Knicks might be in 4th rank but the 7th rank is just 2 wins away from them.
Julius Randle is the key player to this Knicks team which is why they are on the safe spot.
He had been scoring like crazy and stepped up his game. Then there is Rose for support and Quickley taking up a notch for every game he plays.
Knicks has a bright future for this young players.

he is a bigger version of Steph Curry, this guy has suddenly become a great 3 point shooting. On the win against the Hawks, he was shooting 6-8 from beyond the arc, if he can be consistent with that, I guess Knicks will be a big surprise in the playoffs.

They've already pull a surprised already by having a winning streak that put them in the 4th spot in a highly contested Eastern conference. And the top 3 of Eastern conference is on a losing skid, that gives the Knicks the edge somewhat.

Knicks vs Raptors on Sunday, this is going to be good, I do hope that Toronto will play their stars against the Knicks and no load management for Paskal Siakam.

This is a big surprise for a team with only good players, no stars, the coaching staff is doing a great job, and the players really have good chemistry, other people said that players who have better teamwork will eventually have an advantage even with facing a talented team, but they still need superstars to compete with the nets, but ill be surprised if they takedown the mighty nets this season.

I know a lot of people don't consider Randle a star but the dude beasts everyone night in a nd night out on the court. He rarely is the worse of his match up of the court. He can hit from anywhere on the court. Rebounds at a high rate and perennially leads the team in assists. Never takes a play or night off. He might be the best player the Knicks have since Ewing left the team. And don't give me Carmelo, yes Carmelo is good but definitely one dimensional.

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The NBA is at fault here, they should not created this "load management" because it's hard to control it to be honest. A team will certainly find ways to preserve their players to avoid injury, especially when they are already guaranteed with the playoff spot, I think they should review this as there's a lot of criticism about this, they are making NBA soft, missed the old days, sorry.

I agree to that, it's not the players that are soft in this modern era, infact players are most explosive, can shoot deep threes, and even have the 250+ pounds body that can move swiftly, agile and fast. But it's the NBA itself for changing so much in-game decisions from regular fouls down to technical fouls.
I remember Timmy got teched while sitting at the sideline for laughing at a referee's decision.
Back in the 90's you can't get tech taunting and shouting at your opponent after a poster.

You can't really compare era's though, maybe what the NBA has done is to really help the players with all this load management, but it seems it has back fired on them. Players and fans are criticizing it.

Now the control is more on the officiating, teams can challenge a call, etc. There's a lot of changes now and the NBA has really evolved, but there are pros and cons about it.

You can compare eras. I'm a huge bb fan but its soft now vs the 90s. I mean hand checking is a foul now. Hand checking was just part of defense. MJ would average 50 points a game in today's era. Its like football and what they've done. Imagine Jerry Rice and what he could do in today's "can't touch after 5 yards". Load management is just another way of saying players are getting soft.

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