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Quote from: wheelz1200 on April 21, 2021, 11:16:20 AM

The NBA is at fault here, they should not created this "load management" because it's hard to control it to be honest. A team will certainly find ways to preserve their players to avoid injury, especially when they are already guaranteed with the playoff spot, I think they should review this as there's a lot of criticism about this, they are making NBA soft, missed the old days, sorry.

I agree to that, it's not the players that are soft in this modern era, infact players are most explosive, can shoot deep threes, and even have the 250+ pounds body that can move swiftly, agile and fast. But it's the NBA itself for changing so much in-game decisions from regular fouls down to technical fouls.
I remember Timmy got teched while sitting at the sideline for laughing at a referee's decision.
Back in the 90's you can't get tech taunting and shouting at your opponent after a poster.

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 21, 2021, 03:54:02 PM

Load management is only smart.

Smart by means of? If a player is totally cleared to play, load management shouldn't be exercised even it's a decision by the team owners.

Even the legend Michael Jordan doesn't like the idea of load management. Players should only be allowed to do that if it's reasonable to do so.

Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 21, 2021, 03:54:02 PM

Warriors aren't going anywhere without Steph, and he's 33 and carrying a huge load, he better get some rest.

That's a different situation and load management should be out of the topic.

Steph also not like the idea of load management. He plays because he wants to. Even they are almost out as one of the contenders in the Western Conference, as considered by most, the Warriors can't just ask Steph to rest if the guy really wants to play. Why gave up early? There are still lots of games remaining before the playoffs and there are chances that they can still secure a playoff spot.

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Quote from: CryptoCrookz on April 21, 2021, 03:54:02 PM

Srsly, you people criticze load management? With all the extra injuries and the shortened season we had this year? And especially for players like Steph who basically carry the whole team?

Load management is only smart. No one gives a flying eff about one game here or there, if the star player can stay healthy. The Warriors aren't going anywhere without Steph, and he's 33 and carrying a huge load, he better get some rest. Same for all the other teams and their stars. From this perspective as a Lakers fan I am happy LeBron and AD are getting some rest now while recuperating from their injuries. Wonder how they gell with Drummond, but it's great they have the rest. Winning the regular season gets no banners, just ask the Clippers.

Load management is okay if it's not abuse by some team, injuries do really happen even with a load management as you cannot be sure than once you step in the court, you'll not be injured. They should review the load management and make it more strict probably.

As a fan, I always expect to see my favorite player playing in any game, but with this load management, sometimes they rest so that's just frustrating and it's actually more frustrating if you have bought a ticket and you are in the arena and then you find out that the star player will not play due to load management.

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Srsly, you people criticze load management? With all the extra injuries and the shortened season we had this year? And especially for players like Steph who basically carry the whole team?

Load management is only smart. No one gives a flying eff about one game here or there, if the star player can stay healthy. The Warriors aren't going anywhere without Steph, and he's 33 and carrying a huge load, he better get some rest. Same for all the other teams and their stars. From this perspective as a Lakers fan I am happy LeBron and AD are getting some rest now while recuperating from their injuries. Wonder how they gell with Drummond, but it's great they have the rest. Winning the regular season gets no banners, just ask the Clippers.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 21, 2021, 02:47:58 PM

Anthony Davis will be back in uniform for the Lakers against the Dallas Mavericks tomorrow.

I will give it a 90% chance since even he's cleared out to play, there's no official statement yet about it but expected to release few hours before their tip-off with the Mavericks. As per the report, Davis will be on limited time restrictions, about 15 minutes, which is understandable. Can't wait to see how Vogel will rotate AD together with another AD, Andre Drummond.

AD + AD on the paint would be a problem for any team. Both are dominant offensively and defensively.

But since I'm biased, I'm still with the Mavericks. Expecting good ML odds for them against the Lakers.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 21, 2021, 02:47:58 PM

Anthony Davis will be back in uniform for the Lakers against the Dallas Mavericks tomorrow. A long time coming. Will be great to see them get LeBron back soon for a nice Finals run. They’ve both been missed recently as the Lakers have dropped quite a few spots out west. I still like their odds overall, as the Nets haven’t gotten much time together playing as their new team (although with that much talent it might not matter).

Yep once those 2 are back and playoffs start back to business as usual for bron. People are looking at the Lakers with this lineup and discarding them. Probably the best time to lay playoff odds on the Lakers once they start winning with those 2 again odds are gonna drop like they always do at playoff time.

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Anthony Davis will be back in uniform for the Lakers against the Dallas Mavericks tomorrow. A long time coming. Will be great to see them get LeBron back soon for a nice Finals run. They’ve both been missed recently as the Lakers have dropped quite a few spots out west. I still like their odds overall, as the Nets haven’t gotten much time together playing as their new team (although with that much talent it might not matter).

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No question about it, Curry has lead his team this season with his historic shooting and scoring. But I'm not sure if that is enough for a ring, probably they will be having a hard time winning on the first round of the playoffs. But what's important is that these young guys get the experience.

Sure, Curry is a phenomenal scorer, but he needs more support from teammates because GSW's participation in the playoff is still questionable. Even if the Warriors will end this season at the current position, then they need to win another two games to reach the playoff.

They are not expected to make it to the playoffs because they miss Thompson, however, the way they are playing, they are really competitive and I think the new rules that the top 10 is included in the playoff elimination really help them as they have a shot to be included in the playoffs.

Just trust Curry and his team, they may look so underrated now but we know that GSW has a championship experience and were champions for like 2 or 3 times, so they are still a tough team to beat.

Good to see golden state warriors fighting again for the playoffs. This makes me happy as they are one of my favorite teams. I wish that klay thompson can make a recovery before the playoffs but i dont think it is possible

There is zero chance he comes back for the playoffs. Seasons done in a couple of weeks. He will be lucky to be ready for the first game of next season. I just hope klay can ay again let alone at the top flight that he has in the past.

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Quote from: Jating on April 21, 2021, 04:13:16 AM

Curry is still on his prime, probably when Thompson will be back next year it will be a different GSW. Not the same as when they have a run at the NBA, but we might see them chasing another ring when him, Klay and Green back very healthy and with the young set of guys that they have right now.

No question about it, Curry has lead his team this season with his historic shooting and scoring. But I'm not sure if that is enough for a ring, probably they will be having a hard time winning on the first round of the playoffs. But what's important is that these young guys get the experience.

Honestly Curry is good enough all by himself to carry the offensive load and when they get Klay it is going to be quite different. However they do need some roster management for sure, they were a great team when they had klay+curry and then players that had a role, now it is not like that too much. I believe they need a proper SF when Klay gets back, or maybe even SG and put Klay on SF if they want to, all those Oubre and Wiggins type of players are not good fit to GSW, they need good defensive players who can share the ball and maybe occasionally hit the three (not like curry of course, nobody can).

I think next year depends on this off-season, if they can somehow offload Wiggins and get someone else, they will definitely be a much better team next year, but it all depends on what they do, plus how Klay comes back is very important as well.

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Quote from: Jating on April 21, 2021, 04:13:16 AM

No question about it, Curry has lead his team this season with his historic shooting and scoring. But I'm not sure if that is enough for a ring, probably they will be having a hard time winning on the first round of the playoffs. But what's important is that these young guys get the experience.

Sure, Curry is a phenomenal scorer, but he needs more support from teammates because GSW's participation in the playoff is still questionable. Even if the Warriors will end this season at the current position, then they need to win another two games to reach the playoff.

They are not expected to make it to the playoffs because they miss Thompson, however, the way they are playing, they are really competitive and I think the new rules that the top 10 is included in the playoff elimination really help them as they have a shot to be included in the playoffs.

Just trust Curry and his team, they may look so underrated now but we know that GSW has a championship experience and were champions for like 2 or 3 times, so they are still a tough team to beat.

Good to see golden state warriors fighting again for the playoffs. This makes me happy as they are one of my favorite teams. I wish that klay thompson can make a recovery before the playoffs but i dont think it is possible

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on April 21, 2021, 07:01:57 AM

Honestly unless you are at the very end of your career load management is a little dumb. You play to win every year. If golden state load manages Steph and gives him a game off a week or only let's him ay half a game those are almost assured losses. Sorry but if I'm a coach and steph is healthy he is on the court.

I personally think load management is bullsh*t (unless If necessary) and I think some teams are abusing it just to let their superstar rest and avoid injury. I mean everyone is susceptible to injury and it really feels like load management is somehow considered as cheating. Fans are paying tickets to see their favourite team and players.
I remember the Spurs was fined by the NBA for benching out Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili while the playoffs was closely approaching.

Curry doesn't need any of those. He's hungry to win and play from regular season to the playoffs.

The NBA is at fault here, they should not created this "load management" because it's hard to control it to be honest. A team will certainly find ways to preserve their players to avoid injury, especially when they are already guaranteed with the playoff spot, I think they should review this as there's a lot of criticism about this, they are making NBA soft, missed the old days, sorry.

There really isn't anything Adam silver could do. Ypu can't mandate healthy players ay x number of games or x number of minutes per game. If so who qualifies for this, it gets real messy. Only thing you can do is shake your head, but good on curry for not wanting to "load manage" or kerr to sit down. Players and coaches from the 80s and 90s would never deal with this.

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Quote from: btc_angela on April 21, 2021, 03:52:44 AM

I have them ML @2.20, I know that Nets is short handed, but I think NOP is very inconsistent that they forget to win a game know. So it's a win for me, although in the beginning I thought it was a trap again and I have to question why the punters are putting Nets as a underdog against the Pels.

Yes, Joe Harris, I also bet on him whether to score "x" points this game. Love this guy and he is a perfect tandem to Kyrie.

Cheers. You made the bet at 1st quarter while the Nets are trailing right?
That's some courage you got there.

Zion, Ingram and Lonzo Ball did their job on the offensive end but the Nets are just better.
Total stats are almost identical. There's just a bit dominance in the rebounding field. Adams is there but only gained 5 rebounds for 29 minutes.
He needs help below that rim.

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Quote from: Jating on April 21, 2021, 04:13:16 AM

No question about it, Curry has lead his team this season with his historic shooting and scoring. But I'm not sure if that is enough for a ring, probably they will be having a hard time winning on the first round of the playoffs. But what's important is that these young guys get the experience.

Sure, Curry is a phenomenal scorer, but he needs more support from teammates because GSW's participation in the playoff is still questionable. Even if the Warriors will end this season at the current position, then they need to win another two games to reach the playoff.

We are seeing good leadership and a lion heart performance coming from Steph, he's showing how he love this game and he's doing everything to

compete and try to win if possible, in regards to support that he's getting those players around him are also doing their roles they are not the stars that we used to see who surround Steph but they are also doing their best to contribute.

Still a young team but bringing back Klay and still have this mentalities this team will rise again, they came from nothing to become the sensation.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on April 21, 2021, 07:43:13 AM

Quote from: Jating on April 21, 2021, 04:13:16 AM

No question about it, Curry has lead his team this season with his historic shooting and scoring. But I'm not sure if that is enough for a ring, probably they will be having a hard time winning on the first round of the playoffs. But what's important is that these young guys get the experience.

Sure, Curry is a phenomenal scorer, but he needs more support from teammates because GSW's participation in the playoff is still questionable. Even if the Warriors will end this season at the current position, then they need to win another two games to reach the playoff.

They are not expected to make it to the playoffs because they miss Thompson, however, the way they are playing, they are really competitive and I think the new rules that the top 10 is included in the playoff elimination really help them as they have a shot to be included in the playoffs.

Just trust Curry and his team, they may look so underrated now but we know that GSW has a championship experience and were champions for like 2 or 3 times, so they are still a tough team to beat.

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Quote from: Jating on April 21, 2021, 04:13:16 AM

No question about it, Curry has lead his team this season with his historic shooting and scoring. But I'm not sure if that is enough for a ring, probably they will be having a hard time winning on the first round of the playoffs. But what's important is that these young guys get the experience.

Sure, Curry is a phenomenal scorer, but he needs more support from teammates because GSW's participation in the playoff is still questionable. Even if the Warriors will end this season at the current position, then they need to win another two games to reach the playoff.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on April 21, 2021, 07:01:57 AM

Honestly unless you are at the very end of your career load management is a little dumb. You play to win every year. If golden state load manages Steph and gives him a game off a week or only let's him ay half a game those are almost assured losses. Sorry but if I'm a coach and steph is healthy he is on the court.

I personally think load management is bullsh*t (unless If necessary) and I think some teams are abusing it just to let their superstar rest and avoid injury. I mean everyone is susceptible to injury and it really feels like load management is somehow considered as cheating. Fans are paying tickets to see their favourite team and players.
I remember the Spurs was fined by the NBA for benching out Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili while the playoffs was closely approaching.

Curry doesn't need any of those. He's hungry to win and play from regular season to the playoffs.

The NBA is at fault here, they should not created this "load management" because it's hard to control it to be honest. A team will certainly find ways to preserve their players to avoid injury, especially when they are already guaranteed with the playoff spot, I think they should review this as there's a lot of criticism about this, they are making NBA soft, missed the old days, sorry.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on April 21, 2021, 07:01:57 AM

Honestly unless you are at the very end of your career load management is a little dumb. You play to win every year. If golden state load manages Steph and gives him a game off a week or only let's him ay half a game those are almost assured losses. Sorry but if I'm a coach and steph is healthy he is on the court.

I personally think load management is bullsh*t (unless If necessary) and I think some teams are abusing it just to let their superstar rest and avoid injury. I mean everyone is susceptible to injury and it really feels like load management is somehow considered as cheating. Fans are paying tickets to see their favourite team and players.
I remember the Spurs was fined by the NBA for benching out Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili while the playoffs was closely approaching.

Curry doesn't need any of those. He's hungry to win and play from regular season to the playoffs.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on April 21, 2021, 05:14:12 AM

The last moments of the Trail Blazers - Clippers game was really exciting. When the score was 112-111, Powell missed a very valuable 3-pointer. If he scored that one, maybe his team were going to win this game. After Clippers got ahead 113-112, McCollum got a crucial opportunity to help his team get ahead and even win the game but he missed the medium-range shot and Clippers managed to be the winner.

Portland has a lot of opportunities to win that game against the Clippers, but they didn't have the breaks in that game and it's unfortunate that they have to lost another close game like this.

And then Paul George with crucial free throws in the last 4.8 seconds, capping a night with 33 points. I guess Portland will need the services of Lillard and Nurkic as they are losing streak.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on April 21, 2021, 05:14:12 AM

The last moments of the Trail Blazers - Clippers game was really exciting. When the score was 112-111, Powell missed a very valuable 3-pointer. If he scored that one, maybe his team were going to win this game. After Clippers got ahead 113-112, McCollum got a crucial opportunity to help his team get ahead and even win the game but he missed the medium-range shot and Clippers managed to be the winner.

That was without Leonard, and Blazers are playing at home, this team has still not improve yet, they will not be in the WCF this season. However, it was really a nice game to watch, it's just that, Blazers are now in a long losing streak, hopefully they'll not dig a hole on that.

They have been playing without Leonard for quite some time now and yet they still manage to win very close game. As for Portland though, no Lillard that's why they have a difficult time winning the game. Portland after the the all star break is playing really good. Unfortunately, they are on a skid right now, and without Dame, will be difficult to bet on them.

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@wiss19, I think Curry could still get an MVP once their team will quality in the playoffs, they don't need to win a championship or be in the NBA Finals as Giannis had the same scenario in the past but he still won the regular season MVP.

Curry is on an improve level now, he can score 30 points easily, I guess that's his average now (Correct me if I'm wrong), and the way I see it, he is so happy playing and basketball seems easy for him.

As I have said before, Curry is on a personal mission to win the scoring title this year. Bradley Beal is still leading though, but let's see after this week, if Curry's incredible streak continues, he can have overtaken Beal and won the scoring title.

I wouldn't say that he is on an improve level, he is really on his prime right now, 33 years old and carrying his team on his shoulder.

Golden state might make it in the playoffs with this kind of performance of curry but, is the team management realizing that they are shortening curry's playing time in the league? if he will take the load of the team he might just 2-3 years before retiring, if you have a precious player you have to manage his playing time for the good of the team and that player, there is no sense of letting him play with nothing to loose then will be eliminated in the first round, that's a bit careless for the management.

I think it was Curry's decision to really play and not do load management this year as compare to other teams or players who wishes to sit down and not play. Medical science has advance throughout the years, so I think he can still play 2-3 years down the line because they are going to protect him with sports science. So it's not careless though, they know the risk involved here and Steph and his family know this as well.

Honestly unless you are at the very end of your career load management is a little dumb. You play to win every year. If golden state load manages Steph and gives him a game off a week or only let's him ay half a game those are almost assured losses. Sorry but if I'm a coach and steph is healthy he is on the court.

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