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Cavs beat the Nets again. I feel like I missed some good value bet there. Harden doesnt seem to be in prime shape and KD out of the game. Should have take the risk. Over 3x on Cavs there. Undecided

It was unexpected.

Jarrett Allen played a very impressive match and he's dominant on this game. Tsk tsk.

Cavs are very strong on centers and PF. Nets are very weak on those positions. So they totally unfavorable opponent.
I also expect Cavs to try to unload some of their tall players and trade them for some picks or whatever they need.

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Cleveland Cavaliers played a home game against Brooklyn Nets again last night. Cavs got another win (125-113). On Cavs side, Sexton got 25 points. Drummond made a double-double (19 points, 16 rebounds). On Nets side, Irving got 38 points. Harden made a double-double (19 points, 11 assists).

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Quote from: boyptc on January 23, 2021, 04:08:09 AM

It was unexpected.

Jarrett Allen played a very impressive match and he's dominant on this game. Tsk tsk.

Losing 2 times in a row for the same team, I don't know what the Nets feel after it.

I have the same question in my mind.
Is the management now regretting the decision they made for trading Allen and LeVert?
Or, will they put all the blame on Coach Nash just like what other management does.
2 losing streak against the same team is not a good sign.
I hope they have a back-up plan for this.

But after all of that, they are still the 2nd favorite.

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1 game only and that is against the same team who beat them last night.

But here's what happened, when Harden arrived, he played with Durant and they won 2 games in a row, but when Irving came back, that's where the problem starts, they are in a 2 losing streak now and Irving has not won a game since his return.

It is also interesting that Harden had 30+ points in the first two games with Durant, but after Irving's return, he scored an average of 20 points per game. Anyway, they played only four games with Harden, and I guess Nets' leaders can improve team chemistry closer to the middle of the season.

Harden had a triple double in his first game so we thought he is really a real deal but things change when Irving came back. I think eventually they'll developed that great chemistry but I hope the coaching stuff will not only focus on developing the chemistry of the big 3 but the entire team most importantly.

look at the other guys in the roster, they are not effective anymore. One good example is Shamet, this guy is a shooter but in the game against the Cavaliers, he was scoreless with 0-5 beyond the arc, that's not him, maybe the rotation is not good so he has not adjusted from it.

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Quote from: boyptc on January 23, 2021, 04:08:09 AM

Quote from: vennali on January 22, 2021, 10:14:29 PM

Cavs beat the Nets again. I feel like I missed some good value bet there. Harden doesnt seem to be in prime shape and KD out of the game. Should have take the risk. Over 3x on Cavs there. Undecided

It was unexpected.

Jarrett Allen played a very impressive match and he's dominant on this game. Tsk tsk.

Losing 2 times in a row for the same team, I don't know what the Nets feel after it.

Brooklyn lost their depth when they traded away Jarett Allen and Taurean Prince. I think they knew that, but for the sake of acquiring James Harden, they did.
Yes, Brooklyn got a lot of offensive fire power, but they really really lack on defensive effort, literally they doesn't play defense. Kyrie and Harden are too lazy on the defensive end, including DeAndre Jordan, the Cavs easily dominated the paint.

Harden and Irving are not really known for his defense but Jordan, I think he is a good defensive player, maybe he was just owned by Andre Drummond. Also if you look at his numbers, you'll be disappointed as his stats is dropping.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordade01.html

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Quote from: Distinctin on January 23, 2021, 06:48:46 AM

1 game only and that is against the same team who beat them last night.

But here's what happened, when Harden arrived, he played with Durant and they won 2 games in a row, but when Irving came back, that's where the problem starts, they are in a 2 losing streak now and Irving has not won a game since his return.

It is also interesting that Harden had 30+ points in the first two games with Durant, but after Irving's return, he scored an average of 20 points per game. Anyway, they played only four games with Harden, and I guess Nets' leaders can improve team chemistry closer to the middle of the season.

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That was a big surprise, although that's a different story if durant is not injured, something is noticeable, kyrie can't lead a team, to a win, chemistry is the issue, even durant is not playing, harden DJ and kyrie is so much for Cavs to handle, he can four the points but personal points beat by teamwork on the other side, kyrie should change those things if they want to face the team to beat in the west.

I don't think the win was a big surprise to be honest as the Cavs really played well and they gave no chance for Nets to take the lead and then the win. The fact that NETS don't know how to defense without KD will make things super hard for them in case KD gets injured again. They should really exercise defensive basketball a lot because the offensive is working good but you can't win if you can't defense.

The ball rotation is good in cavs together with good defensive set up that's why they take the win again against the Nets, And its so obvious for nets that they are lacking with inside defense and their ball rotation is so bad maybe they should look at that deep since if they continuously act the same as the past two games for sure they will struggle even if they have 3 big stars on their team.

The big 3 played together, they loss, harden + Irving, they loss. This team will received a big criticism if they fail, they let go of their role players just to acquire Harden, now look at them, they are good in offense but they struggle in defense.

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For what I think right now maybe its time for them to trade Kyrie in exchange with defensive players since for this I think Nets will get a better chance to win the champ this year.

I would completely agree with this, Durant + Harden is already enough for this team to win, the ball rotation is better than Irving holding the ball.

How many games these 3 had been playing together? Yes, they would really be having some criticisms at this moment but we should give them at least some time to arrange up their plays.

I cant deny that these players are really on the offensive side and do really lack when it comes to defense.They do really need that ball rotation just like on what had cavaliers had been doing.

They might not have those ample star players but they do able to handle out the situation even we do saw that there's some slight disadvantage when it comes to player capacities.

With kyries attitude? I doubt he will adjust on the line up since he always want to be the first option in terms of scoring so it's hard for both 3 stars to facilitate theirselves when they are together so best to trade him since we already see the combination of harden - durant without kyrie they won the 2 games and with kyrie they lost 2 games with many turnovers acquired. So I think this is enough already and they should try to acquire a defensive guy to fill the gap on their team.

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Quote from: boyptc on January 23, 2021, 04:08:09 AM

Quote from: vennali on January 22, 2021, 10:14:29 PM

Cavs beat the Nets again. I feel like I missed some good value bet there. Harden doesnt seem to be in prime shape and KD out of the game. Should have take the risk. Over 3x on Cavs there. Undecided

It was unexpected.

Jarrett Allen played a very impressive match and he's dominant on this game. Tsk tsk.

Losing 2 times in a row for the same team, I don't know what the Nets feel after it.

Brooklyn lost their depth when they traded away Jarett Allen and Taurean Prince. I think they knew that, but for the sake of acquiring James Harden, they did.
Yes, Brooklyn got a lot of offensive fire power, but they really really lack on defensive effort, literally they doesn't play defense. Kyrie and Harden are too lazy on the defensive end, including DeAndre Jordan, the Cavs easily dominated the paint.

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Quote from: akirasendo17 on January 23, 2021, 01:36:47 AM

That was a big surprise, although that's a different story if durant is not injured, something is noticeable, kyrie can't lead a team, to a win, chemistry is the issue, even durant is not playing, harden DJ and kyrie is so much for Cavs to handle, he can four the points but personal points beat by teamwork on the other side, kyrie should change those things if they want to face the team to beat in the west.

I don't think the win was a big surprise to be honest as the Cavs really played well and they gave no chance for Nets to take the lead and then the win. The fact that NETS don't know how to defense without KD will make things super hard for them in case KD gets injured again. They should really exercise defensive basketball a lot because the offensive is working good but you can't win if you can't defense.

The ball rotation is good in cavs together with good defensive set up that's why they take the win again against the Nets, And its so obvious for nets that they are lacking with inside defense and their ball rotation is so bad maybe they should look at that deep since if they continuously act the same as the past two games for sure they will struggle even if they have 3 big stars on their team.

The big 3 played together, they loss, harden + Irving, they loss. This team will received a big criticism if they fail, they let go of their role players just to acquire Harden, now look at them, they are good in offense but they struggle in defense.

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For what I think right now maybe its time for them to trade Kyrie in exchange with defensive players since for this I think Nets will get a better chance to win the champ this year.

I would completely agree with this, Durant + Harden is already enough for this team to win, the ball rotation is better than Irving holding the ball.

How many games these 3 had been playing together? Yes, they would really be having some criticisms at this moment but we should give them at least some time to arrange up their plays.

1 game only and that is against the same team who beat them last night.

But here's what happened, when Harden arrived, he played with Durant and they won 2 games in a row, but when Irving came back, that's where the problem starts, they are in a 2 losing streak now and Irving has not won a game since his return.

Quote from: stomachgrowls on January 23, 2021, 06:30:05 AM

I cant deny that these players are really on the offensive side and do really lack when it comes to defense.They do really need that ball rotation just like on what had cavaliers had been doing.

They might not have those ample star players but they do able to handle out the situation even we do saw that there's some slight disadvantage when it comes to player capacities.

All I can say is that Nets has to improve, it's not too late, we are only at the early stage of the regular season.

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Quote from: Distinctin on January 23, 2021, 05:17:23 AM

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Quote from: akirasendo17 on January 23, 2021, 01:36:47 AM

That was a big surprise, although that's a different story if durant is not injured, something is noticeable, kyrie can't lead a team, to a win, chemistry is the issue, even durant is not playing, harden DJ and kyrie is so much for Cavs to handle, he can four the points but personal points beat by teamwork on the other side, kyrie should change those things if they want to face the team to beat in the west.

I don't think the win was a big surprise to be honest as the Cavs really played well and they gave no chance for Nets to take the lead and then the win. The fact that NETS don't know how to defense without KD will make things super hard for them in case KD gets injured again. They should really exercise defensive basketball a lot because the offensive is working good but you can't win if you can't defense.

The ball rotation is good in cavs together with good defensive set up that's why they take the win again against the Nets, And its so obvious for nets that they are lacking with inside defense and their ball rotation is so bad maybe they should look at that deep since if they continuously act the same as the past two games for sure they will struggle even if they have 3 big stars on their team.

The big 3 played together, they loss, harden + Irving, they loss. This team will received a big criticism if they fail, they let go of their role players just to acquire Harden, now look at them, they are good in offense but they struggle in defense.

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For what I think right now maybe its time for them to trade Kyrie in exchange with defensive players since for this I think Nets will get a better chance to win the champ this year.

I would completely agree with this, Durant + Harden is already enough for this team to win, the ball rotation is better than Irving holding the ball.

How many games these 3 had been playing together? Yes, they would really be having some criticisms at this moment but we should give them at least some time to arrange up their plays.

I cant deny that these players are really on the offensive side and do really lack when it comes to defense.They do really need that ball rotation just like on what had cavaliers had been doing.

They might not have those ample star players but they do able to handle out the situation even we do saw that there's some slight disadvantage when it comes to player capacities.

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Quote from: ultrloa on January 23, 2021, 04:34:44 AM

Quote from: boltz on January 23, 2021, 02:06:35 AM

Quote from: akirasendo17 on January 23, 2021, 01:36:47 AM

That was a big surprise, although that's a different story if durant is not injured, something is noticeable, kyrie can't lead a team, to a win, chemistry is the issue, even durant is not playing, harden DJ and kyrie is so much for Cavs to handle, he can four the points but personal points beat by teamwork on the other side, kyrie should change those things if they want to face the team to beat in the west.

I don't think the win was a big surprise to be honest as the Cavs really played well and they gave no chance for Nets to take the lead and then the win. The fact that NETS don't know how to defense without KD will make things super hard for them in case KD gets injured again. They should really exercise defensive basketball a lot because the offensive is working good but you can't win if you can't defense.

The ball rotation is good in cavs together with good defensive set up that's why they take the win again against the Nets, And its so obvious for nets that they are lacking with inside defense and their ball rotation is so bad maybe they should look at that deep since if they continuously act the same as the past two games for sure they will struggle even if they have 3 big stars on their team.

The big 3 played together, they loss, harden + Irving, they loss. This team will received a big criticism if they fail, they let go of their role players just to acquire Harden, now look at them, they are good in offense but they struggle in defense.

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For what I think right now maybe its time for them to trade Kyrie in exchange with defensive players since for this I think Nets will get a better chance to win the champ this year.

I would completely agree with this, Durant + Harden is already enough for this team to win, the ball rotation is better than Irving holding the ball.

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Quote from: boltz on January 23, 2021, 02:06:35 AM

Quote from: akirasendo17 on January 23, 2021, 01:36:47 AM

That was a big surprise, although that's a different story if durant is not injured, something is noticeable, kyrie can't lead a team, to a win, chemistry is the issue, even durant is not playing, harden DJ and kyrie is so much for Cavs to handle, he can four the points but personal points beat by teamwork on the other side, kyrie should change those things if they want to face the team to beat in the west.

I don't think the win was a big surprise to be honest as the Cavs really played well and they gave no chance for Nets to take the lead and then the win. The fact that NETS don't know how to defense without KD will make things super hard for them in case KD gets injured again. They should really exercise defensive basketball a lot because the offensive is working good but you can't win if you can't defense.

The ball rotation is good in cavs together with good defensive set up that's why they take the win again against the Nets, And its so obvious for nets that they are lacking with inside defense and their ball rotation is so bad maybe they should look at that deep since if they continuously act the same as the past two games for sure they will struggle even if they have 3 big stars on their team. For what I think right now maybe its time for them to trade Kyrie in exchange with defensive players since for this I think Nets will get a better chance to win the champ this year.

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Quote from: vennali on January 22, 2021, 10:14:29 PM

Cavs beat the Nets again. I feel like I missed some good value bet there. Harden doesnt seem to be in prime shape and KD out of the game. Should have take the risk. Over 3x on Cavs there. Undecided

It was unexpected.

Jarrett Allen played a very impressive match and he's dominant on this game. Tsk tsk.

Losing 2 times in a row for the same team, I don't know what the Nets feel after it.

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Lakers won this game, final score 113-106. Lebron played very well here with 34 points and 6-10 3 point shooing. Giannis did really struggle, the kind of defense the Lakers put in him was so effective, and this is how other teams are beating Gainnis in the playoffs. I think most of the bettors here bet on the Lakers, I saw in the betting thread, most of the picks are on the Lakers.

2 games left now.

GSW vs NYK and Jazz vs Pels.

This game was an easy game for the Lakers especially at the 4th quarter where they already control the game because the Bucks has no other option to defence the Lakers of their unstoppable offence and yeah, you're right about the Bucks offence today, it kinda sucks. They should fix it or else their playoffs will be the same as last year's. Lakers need to continue this kind of play, especially with the team that has a chance to beat them. Now they got the best record in the NBA I'm sure they gonna hold that position after some more games.

Bucks are seen as finalists for the past 2 years, and now this year makes it third but I feel like they are still not there. Coach Bud is great and all but he has to learn how to play his stars 40+ minutes on important games, that is not really a horrible thing to do.

I get that Coach Bud comes from being under Pop's wings, and Pop usually rested Timmy, Manu and Tony many many times, and he tried to play these players as low minutes as possible, as long as it was possible to go to playoffs being super high wasn't really that important for Pop, hell Spurs was an awesome team until very very recently on 2016 when Warriors broke 73 game streak they had like 64-65 wins as well. However that is spurs, Coach Bud needs to realize Bucks is not like that, you have to play Giannis and Kris 40+ minutes a game on those very important games such as lakers. If you just let the gas go, Lakers will take over and destroy you.

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Quote from: akirasendo17 on January 23, 2021, 01:36:47 AM

That was a big surprise, although that's a different story if durant is not injured, something is noticeable, kyrie can't lead a team, to a win, chemistry is the issue, even durant is not playing, harden DJ and kyrie is so much for Cavs to handle, he can four the points but personal points beat by teamwork on the other side, kyrie should change those things if they want to face the team to beat in the west.

I don't think the win was a big surprise to be honest as the Cavs really played well and they gave no chance for Nets to take the lead and then the win. The fact that NETS don't know how to defense without KD will make things super hard for them in case KD gets injured again. They should really exercise defensive basketball a lot because the offensive is working good but you can't win if you can't defense.

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That was a big surprise, although that's a different story if durant is not injured, something is noticeable, kyrie can't lead a team, to a win, chemistry is the issue, even durant is not playing, harden DJ and kyrie is so much for Cavs to handle, he can four the points but personal points beat by teamwork on the other side, kyrie should change those things if they want to face the team to beat in the west.

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Quote from: vennali on January 22, 2021, 10:14:29 PM

Cavs beat the Nets again. I feel like I missed some good value bet there. Harden doesnt seem to be in prime shape and KD out of the game. Should have take the risk. Over 3x on Cavs there. Undecided

I don't think many people predicted that would happen. It shows the problem with relying on talent over team chemistry though. I'm sure they'll get better as the year goes on, but I'd be real surprised if they were able to win it all in their first year. Reminds me of the Miami Heat when LeBron joined. It took over a year before they were playing at a championship level.

I mean, Cavs literally just beat Nets couple of days ago. It did go into overtime but in that game, they had Durant who didnt play today. Games arent that straight forward anyways, but Nets arent a settled team at the moment. So, yeah.. Cavs had a fair shot for 3.2x odds

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Quote from: vennali on January 22, 2021, 10:14:29 PM

Cavs beat the Nets again. I feel like I missed some good value bet there. Harden doesnt seem to be in prime shape and KD out of the game. Should have take the risk. Over 3x on Cavs there. Undecided

I don't think many people predicted that would happen. It shows the problem with relying on talent over team chemistry though. I'm sure they'll get better as the year goes on, but I'd be real surprised if they were able to win it all in their first year. Reminds me of the Miami Heat when LeBron joined. It took over a year before they were playing at a championship level.

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Cavs beat the Nets again. I feel like I missed some good value bet there. Harden doesnt seem to be in prime shape and KD out of the game. Should have take the risk. Over 3x on Cavs there. Undecided

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There is already new Nets Cavaliers game.

There is a lot of games when teams play with each other after few days. I guess because of shorten season schedule. I bet Nets will be very aggressive and want to revenge their 2 OT loss from 2 days ago.

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