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it is the matter of how would they be composed on that hard game.

That's exactly what they need to do, in the last east finals, they lost their composure during the last 4 games so they lose against the Raptors.
Possibly they can beat the Raptors now with the current line up, but they might struggle again facing other teams, so they need to pass that challenge.

Well it is really tough to handle frustrations especially if you are so eager to win but patience is a virtue, eventually they will find a good way to break that defense. Also, they should use the aura of Giannis so they can rotate the offense to other players. I just hope Giannis would not be forced to do something that might end up having himself an injury.

Chances that they've matured enough not to focused with Giannis alone will help them to have a better chances to win the eastern finals.
With how they are playing right now and how they move the ball it's good to see a well balanced rotations, even Giannis is their main offensive
weapon but the supporting cast are also bringing the challenge and contributes.

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It will be a different playoffs now for the Bucks as Giannis can shoot threes now.

The question is, if he will be given a good looks, their opponent knows his capabilities, last playoffs the Raptors put good defense on Giannis but putting two defender on him and sometimes even 3 and that made him struggle, so as the whole team.

Right, as playoffs are different atmosphere and the defense is tighter than regular games. I think if Giannis will play more as facilitator just like LeBron or maybe the Bucks can bring someone who can be a sidekick of Giannis, then that would be a different story.

Upgrade the passing capability of Giannis.
First he was a tall man with long reach. He could see at a wider range and that means he knows who will be open.
It takes experience too which he doesn't have much by now. It could be their ace for getting that championship even with the strong West.

I remember Steve Nash when he won 2 time season MVP.
Despite being small he could see all the players and mentally, he is always active to whom will defend him.
And experience too.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on January 30, 2020, 06:10:04 PM

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/aaron-gordon-commits-to-slam-dunk-contest/

The 2020 All-Star weekend is coming soon, two weeks from now and we have Aaron Gordon confirming today that he will participate in the NBA Slam Dunk Contest (joining Dwight Howard and Derrick Jones Jr.). Since the event is in Chicago, do you think Zach LaVine will enter the contest too? The 2016 dunk contest battle between the two was pretty damn good. I'm sure Gordon would want a re-match. (fingers crossed)

Yes, yes, Rematch!!! Cheesy

Those two will be competitive but I don't think Dwight will.
Will it just be another comedy for him? (No harm, no bash, that is just how I see it.) Grin

I hope not.

Quote from: Sanitough on January 30, 2020, 05:28:20 PM

The NY Knicks has become a disappointment team after Melo traded to OKlahoma Thunder, they were better with Melo as they experience to be in the playoffs. https://www.nba.com/article/2017/09/25/new-york-knicks-trade-carmelo-anthony-oklahoma-city-thunder

They need to rebuild again with young players, change the management or hire a new coach, AGAIN.
If the teams like Celtics have success with rebuilding, they sure can do that also..

Look OKC now, we thought they'll be a shitty team but they weren't they were full of surprises with Paul.
I wish one day we can see this team to be more competitive again.

I have the same hopes. Their fans are getting restless for all the trades and then taking young kids for a reason of rebuilding.
They still need a veteran, someone to give some good lessons to the kids and then some advise.
Will it happen next year?

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Quote from: Kasabus on January 30, 2020, 04:57:22 PM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on January 30, 2020, 04:52:10 PM

it is the matter of how would they be composed on that hard game.

That's exactly what they need to do, in the last east finals, they lost their composure during the last 4 games so they lose against the Raptors.
Possibly they can beat the Raptors now with the current line up, but they might struggle again facing other teams, so they need to pass that challenge.

Well it is really tough to handle frustrations especially if you are so eager to win but patience is a virtue, eventually they will find a good way to break that defense. Also, they should use the aura of Giannis so they can rotate the offense to other players. I just hope Giannis would not be forced to do something that might end up having himself an injury.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on January 30, 2020, 06:19:33 PM

Quote from: morvillz7z on January 30, 2020, 06:10:04 PM

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/aaron-gordon-commits-to-slam-dunk-contest/

The 2020 All-Star weekend is coming soon, two weeks from now and we have Aaron Gordon confirming today that he will participate in the NBA Slam Dunk Contest (joining Dwight Howard and Derrick Jones Jr.). Since the event is in Chicago, do you think Zach LaVine will enter the contest too? The 2016 dunk contest battle between the two was pretty damn good. I'm sure Gordon would want a re-match. (fingers crossed)

Wait, what did you say?! Howard will join again? Wow! That's the spirit Cheesy

. What I think is that he is already old for this contest — the Superman is no longer on his prime. But to be honest he is in a better shape today comparing before so who knows what he can still offer to us. I'm really excited to see him aiming for a free throw line dunk omce again

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We will see, but it's confirmed that he will participate.
https://www.slamonline.com/nba/dwight-howard-to-participate-in-slam-dunk-contest/
He might be an old Howard but his athleticism is still fun to watch, we are not expecting that he will again win the contest, but who knows.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on January 30, 2020, 06:10:04 PM

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/aaron-gordon-commits-to-slam-dunk-contest/

The 2020 All-Star weekend is coming soon, two weeks from now and we have Aaron Gordon confirming today that he will participate in the NBA Slam Dunk Contest (joining Dwight Howard and Derrick Jones Jr.). Since the event is in Chicago, do you think Zach LaVine will enter the contest too? The 2016 dunk contest battle between the two was pretty damn good. I'm sure Gordon would want a re-match. (fingers crossed)

Wait, what did you say?! Howard will join again? Wow! That's the spirit Cheesy

. What I think is that he is already old for this contest — the Superman is no longer on his prime. But to be honest he is in a better shape today comparing before so who knows what he can still offer to us. I'm really excited to see him aiming for a free throw line dunk omce again

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https://www.slamonline.com/nba/aaron-gordon-commits-to-slam-dunk-contest/

The 2020 All-Star weekend is coming soon, two weeks from now and we have Aaron Gordon confirming today that he will participate in the NBA Slam Dunk Contest (joining Dwight Howard and Derrick Jones Jr.). Since the event is in Chicago, do you think Zach LaVine will enter the contest too? The 2016 dunk contest battle between the two was pretty damn good. I'm sure Gordon would want a re-match. (fingers crossed)

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 30, 2020, 04:55:45 PM

Hopefully they arent dumb enough to keep these guys around for what is essentially another lost season.

The NY Knicks has become a disappointment team after Melo traded to OKlahoma Thunder, they were better with Melo as they experience to be in the playoffs. https://www.nba.com/article/2017/09/25/new-york-knicks-trade-carmelo-anthony-oklahoma-city-thunder

They need to rebuild again with young players, change the management or hire a new coach, AGAIN.
If the teams like Celtics have success with rebuilding, they sure can do that also..

Look OKC now, we thought they'll be a shitty team but they weren't they were full of surprises with Paul.
I wish one day we can see this team to be more competitive again.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 30, 2020, 04:55:45 PM

I'm hoping the knicks are smart and move some of their veterans pieces at the deadline for some either young players or draft capital. No need to keep Morris on the team and a fringe title contender would definately want him. Hopefully they arent dumb enough to keep these guys around for what is essentially another lost season.

As part of the preparation for next season that will be a good move. Disposing veterans for young ones within the same or around its value. I'm sure they will joined the free agency market next year that's why no big moves were done this season since no need to as they are on the bottom of the standings.

Next draft pick, they will have a chance to pick those on the top rookies. As far as I remember they didn't trade any of their future rounds picks so I think we can see a new and modified New York Knicks next season.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on January 30, 2020, 04:52:10 PM

it is the matter of how would they be composed on that hard game.

That's exactly what they need to do, in the last east finals, they lost their composure during the last 4 games so they lose against the Raptors.
Possibly they can beat the Raptors now with the current line up, but they might struggle again facing other teams, so they need to pass that challenge.

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And then levelling up like Lebron, might take lots of games though, to see him carrying the ball and orchestrating the offense from the outside, but everything is in baby steps for him and the Bucks.

To level with Lebron, Giannis has to prove that he can win championship first, if they will be more successful this season and win in the East and will happen that Bucks and Lakers will face in the finals, then that's the time to prove he can level by defeating the king.

I'm sure every team in the NBA is chasing or wanting to become a champion not just Giannis. We can't really tell the future, but we all witnessed the he and the Bucks are trying to push themselves this year or the next years to come to become a champion.

It's a long way to go but we will see, it's going to be tough for him when Lebron is still around. But if he can win one at this era wherein James is still playing then it will add up to his legacy in the future.

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I'm hoping the knicks are smart and move some of their veterans pieces at the deadline for some either young players or draft capital. No need to keep Morris on the team and a fringe title contender would definately want him. Hopefully they arent dumb enough to keep these guys around for what is essentially another lost season.

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It will be a different playoffs now for the Bucks as Giannis can shoot threes now.

The question is, if he will be given a good looks, their opponent knows his capabilities, last playoffs the Raptors put good defense on Giannis but putting two defender on him and sometimes even 3 and that made him struggle, so as the whole team.

This is NBA, they would be expecting this so obviously they will be making strategies amd plays that will maybe break that three defenders or making an allternative offense not focussing on Giannis. They have Korver and Hill, they can score outside and inside so I don't think that it is a problem, it is the matter of how would they be composed on that hard game.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 30, 2020, 03:05:55 PM

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Quote from: justdimin on January 30, 2020, 12:21:53 PM

That is still quite young and I am sure he can improve, Lebron added shooting to his game like after 30 years old, so I am sure Giannis can improve, however how he plays is obvious to everyone now and its rarely ever possible to stop him, so what makes people think he will somehow change the awesome unstoppable way he has and somehow become something else?

It seems you have forgotten how the Raptors stopped Giannis in the 2019 conference finals. All they needed to do is block the driving lane of Giannis, denying him the paint and he is totally shut off.

Quote from: justdimin on January 30, 2020, 12:21:53 PM

I doubt that is even logical let alone possible. Definitely, he can suddenly start practicing shooting fadeaways more and with the reach and arms and height he has became an improved version of Nowitzki but does he need it? Dude already can do whatever he wants, its really mental to thing he needs to improve from his current self.

There is nothing wrong with improving and becoming a better version of yourself as a player. Adding shooting, whether fadeaways or not, is a good arsenal for a basketball player. What mental is thinking that he is too good to need to improve his game? Becoming stagnant is how you become obsolete in the game. It is better for him to learn it now, do it now. It does not matter if he needs it now or not. What matters is that he keeps on improving himself until he reaches his maximum potential. And use that full potential to bring in the chip to Milwaukee.

That and kawhi leonard. Blocking the lane on giannis simply wont cut it this year. The bucks are a different team this year than last. They are Dominant in multiple ways. They can beat almost anyone without Giannis which is scary. He definately learned from last year and dont think a simple solution will shut him or the bucks down.

They do learn something on last year and now they do really improve their play execution which cant hardly be stopped.Good thing on the team is that even their main player isnt playing
they do still able to win a particular game without seeing the glimpse on a hardship situation.

@jakelyson, each player would really have that thing in mind always on how he would improve himself no matter what the course he would take.
Back on last year that Giannis do really have that poor shooting success on outside but now we are seeing the different thing.

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Quote from: jakelyson on January 30, 2020, 12:40:36 PM

Quote from: justdimin on January 30, 2020, 12:21:53 PM

That is still quite young and I am sure he can improve, Lebron added shooting to his game like after 30 years old, so I am sure Giannis can improve, however how he plays is obvious to everyone now and its rarely ever possible to stop him, so what makes people think he will somehow change the awesome unstoppable way he has and somehow become something else?

It seems you have forgotten how the Raptors stopped Giannis in the 2019 conference finals. All they needed to do is block the driving lane of Giannis, denying him the paint and he is totally shut off.

Quote from: justdimin on January 30, 2020, 12:21:53 PM

I doubt that is even logical let alone possible. Definitely, he can suddenly start practicing shooting fadeaways more and with the reach and arms and height he has became an improved version of Nowitzki but does he need it? Dude already can do whatever he wants, its really mental to thing he needs to improve from his current self.

There is nothing wrong with improving and becoming a better version of yourself as a player. Adding shooting, whether fadeaways or not, is a good arsenal for a basketball player. What mental is thinking that he is too good to need to improve his game? Becoming stagnant is how you become obsolete in the game. It is better for him to learn it now, do it now. It does not matter if he needs it now or not. What matters is that he keeps on improving himself until he reaches his maximum potential. And use that full potential to bring in the chip to Milwaukee.

That and kawhi leonard. Blocking the lane on giannis simply wont cut it this year. The bucks are a different team this year than last. They are Dominant in multiple ways. They can beat almost anyone without Giannis which is scary. He definately learned from last year and dont think a simple solution will shut him or the bucks down.

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Quote from: justdimin on January 30, 2020, 12:21:53 PM

... however how he plays is obvious to everyone now and its rarely ever possible to stop him, so what makes people think he will somehow change the awesome unstoppable way he has and somehow become something else?

It is easy to stop Giannis if only by words. Block his usual path then deny. But that solution requires a team effort and Raptors last year playoffs, successfully do it and managed to slow down Giannis. Giannis already knows that hole and takes note of it after they got eliminated that's why this season we have seen him changing his phase sometimes. A good opportunity to shift into something else rather than sticking into his usual.

Quote from: justdimin on January 30, 2020, 12:21:53 PM

Dude already can do whatever he wants, its really mental to thing he needs to improve from his current self.

He really needs too. 5 to 6 years from now, his body will not be the same.

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Quote from: jakelyson on January 30, 2020, 12:40:36 PM

Quote from: justdimin on January 30, 2020, 12:21:53 PM

That is still quite young and I am sure he can improve, Lebron added shooting to his game like after 30 years old, so I am sure Giannis can improve, however how he plays is obvious to everyone now and its rarely ever possible to stop him, so what makes people think he will somehow change the awesome unstoppable way he has and somehow become something else?

It seems you have forgotten how the Raptors stopped Giannis in the 2019 conference finals. All they needed to do is block the driving lane of Giannis, denying him the paint and he is totally shut off.

Quote from: justdimin on January 30, 2020, 12:21:53 PM

I doubt that is even logical let alone possible. Definitely, he can suddenly start practicing shooting fadeaways more and with the reach and arms and height he has became an improved version of Nowitzki but does he need it? Dude already can do whatever he wants, its really mental to thing he needs to improve from his current self.

There is nothing wrong with improving and becoming a better version of yourself as a player. Adding shooting, whether fadeaways or not, is a good arsenal for a basketball player. What mental is thinking that he is too good to need to improve his game? Becoming stagnant is how you become obsolete in the game. It is better for him to learn it now, do it now. It does not matter if he needs it now or not. What matters is that he keeps on improving himself until he reaches his maximum potential. And use that full potential to bring in the chip to Milwaukee.

Everybody has the potential to be the next grand champion this in coming 2020 NBA playoffs because all of the teams and players are competitive enough and also they have the same reasons to fight for. Even if my favorite team is Golden State Warriors, I know there will be the time that they are will be defeated on playoffs like what happened last year because every year is unpredictable because all of the teams and players are too good to win.

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Quote from: justdimin on January 30, 2020, 12:21:53 PM

That is still quite young and I am sure he can improve, Lebron added shooting to his game like after 30 years old, so I am sure Giannis can improve, however how he plays is obvious to everyone now and its rarely ever possible to stop him, so what makes people think he will somehow change the awesome unstoppable way he has and somehow become something else?

It seems you have forgotten how the Raptors stopped Giannis in the 2019 conference finals. All they needed to do is block the driving lane of Giannis, denying him the paint and he is totally shut off.

Quote from: justdimin on January 30, 2020, 12:21:53 PM

I doubt that is even logical let alone possible. Definitely, he can suddenly start practicing shooting fadeaways more and with the reach and arms and height he has became an improved version of Nowitzki but does he need it? Dude already can do whatever he wants, its really mental to thing he needs to improve from his current self.

There is nothing wrong with improving and becoming a better version of yourself as a player. Adding shooting, whether fadeaways or not, is a good arsenal for a basketball player. What mental is thinking that he is too good to need to improve his game? Becoming stagnant is how you become obsolete in the game. It is better for him to learn it now, do it now. It does not matter if he needs it now or not. What matters is that he keeps on improving himself until he reaches his maximum potential. And use that full potential to bring in the chip to Milwaukee.

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Those whole "Giannis is just too young" things are getting a bit out of hand really, dude is what now 25-26? That is still quite young and I am sure he can improve, Lebron added shooting to his game like after 30 years old, so I am sure Giannis can improve, however how he plays is obvious to everyone now and its rarely ever possible to stop him, so what makes people think he will somehow change the awesome unstoppable way he has and somehow become something else?

I doubt that is even logical let alone possible. Definitely, he can suddenly start practicing shooting fadeaways more and with the reach and arms and height he has became an improved version of Nowitzki but does he need it? Dude already can do whatever he wants, its really mental to thing he needs to improve from his current self.

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Quote from: Questat on January 29, 2020, 05:40:50 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on January 29, 2020, 05:34:13 PM

And then levelling up like Lebron, might take lots of games though, to see him carrying the ball and orchestrating the offense from the outside, but everything is in baby steps for him and the Bucks.

To level with Lebron, Giannis has to prove that he can win championship first, if they will be more successful this season and win in the East and will happen that Bucks and Lakers will face in the finals, then that's the time to prove he can level by defeating the king.

There's no way Giannis is at LeBron's level. Man he never got into any GOAT conversations yet. With addition to that, you're absolutely right he never win a championship yet. And for that, he needs to become the king of the east as LeBron did on most years on his career. Yes some of you might say that Giannis has already did that by being the first seed of the east, did he even carried his team for a long stretch in playoffs? I don't think so. He even got into a conversation in which it's between Stephen A. and the other white guy. The white guy is saying that Giannis is better than Durant but Stephen A is the most convincing one saying that Durant is the better player than Giannis.

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