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Quote from: freedomgo on November 04, 2019, 02:13:50 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on November 04, 2019, 01:48:05 AM

How do you guys think the Lakers finish this season? Are they a 70-12 team or not?

That's not impossible, they only have 1 loss so far, and they are getting better and better after their first loss.
Eventually that chemistry and bond within the team will improve and that will help them comfortable of their individual role.
Lebron James is leading the team now, he already tally a 2nd straight triple double and he both won with that.

We know its still too early, but my judgement is just based on the signs I see.

Hard to judge though, but I wouldn't be surprise if they put numbers like that.

If they continue to improved and then really blend well as a team then they can chase perhaps the best record in the NBA. But we have to look at other angles though, teams are getting stack up as well, so possible but difficult, in my opinion.

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Quote from: justdimin on November 04, 2019, 09:41:36 AM

Dallas is not really bad but the west is so stacked that there is no way they could ever compete with anyone and that is the trouble with teams who are in the middle like Portland and now Dallas. You know you are not good enough to win a ring, you know you are not bad enough to get a draft pick neither so you are stuck at the middle where you are not getting any better but you are not getting any worse neither just mediocre for years.

It's too early to say this. Every team can be at their worst and at their best. I wouldn't analyze them unless it's the near end of the season but now, they're still starting out and there are more games to win for them.

I'm not a Dallas fan but each team struggles since every team is upgrading.

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Quote from: asu on November 03, 2019, 09:24:48 AM

Did someone watched the game of Detroit Piston against Chicago Bulls yesterday? I mean it's Derrick Rose and it's his hometown. He get's standing ovation from Bulls crowd to chicago return, that feels of how much they love D. Rose and a sign of comeback in chicago continue and end what you've started on us.

You should know that Derrick Rose only loves the city of Chicago not the team itself. Remember that they are the ones who lost faith in him that is why he got traded away which has started him to become a journey man in the NBA, his injury ruined his career but the team itself ruined his heart. I doubt that he will return to the team without any kind of organizational changes for the team, remember that when Coach Thibs left the team and went to Minnesota he was quickly recruited in there to play, and he was really the one who he is chasing. Without him or any kind of familiar face in the Bulls I don't think he will be wearing their uniform any time soon, maybe in his retirement or so.

Yeah it was a perfect fit. Rose was absolutely unstoppable before the knee injury. Its a shame really, when he came into the nba his style of play was as blue collar as chicago itself. I know it's a business but was surprised how quickly the bulls moved on from rose.

And signing with the very popular nemesis of bulls can also be a sign of big frustration from the team he once gave everything that he had. DRose love's the fans but I can agree that the management didn't extend their faith for him, with so many advance methods of therapy they can easily rebuild his basketball skills, those injuries are being workout and with how he's conditions showing its simply bringing the old DRose in shape.

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Quote from: goinmerry on November 03, 2019, 09:18:56 PM

Quote from: Oasisman on November 03, 2019, 08:19:39 PM

It's easier to say and criticize than to be in the actual situation though. That might be one of the lapses from the coaching staff.

I'm rooting for Mavericks on that game but not blaming anyone especially the coaching staff. Of course, we as a viewer can think of a good way out of that crucial situation however we aren't pressured compare to those people who are actually on the court. These guys are professional but sometimes there are really times that they can't make a quick decision, not because they didn't think of it but actually they have another thing in mind.

Quote from: Reid on November 03, 2019, 12:27:31 PM

That will be seen in the tape afterwards. So let us not give all the bad thought about their coach.

Yes it will surely be addressed and they will charged it to experienced.

Second thing: It's very clear on the replay that Howard grabbed Curry, a clear offensive foul that wasn't called. What's the use of replay by the way, Los Angeles Cheaters!?

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Quote from: Theb on November 03, 2019, 03:11:01 PM

Quote from: asu on November 03, 2019, 09:24:48 AM

Did someone watched the game of Detroit Piston against Chicago Bulls yesterday? I mean it's Derrick Rose and it's his hometown. He get's standing ovation from Bulls crowd to chicago return, that feels of how much they love D. Rose and a sign of comeback in chicago continue and end what you've started on us.

You should know that Derrick Rose only loves the city of Chicago not the team itself. Remember that they are the ones who lost faith in him that is why he got traded away which has started him to become a journey man in the NBA, his injury ruined his career but the team itself ruined his heart. I doubt that he will return to the team without any kind of organizational changes for the team, remember that when Coach Thibs left the team and went to Minnesota he was quickly recruited in there to play, and he was really the one who he is chasing. Without him or any kind of familiar face in the Bulls I don't think he will be wearing their uniform any time soon, maybe in his retirement or so.

Yeah it was a perfect fit. Rose was absolutely unstoppable before the knee injury. Its a shame really, when he came into the nba his style of play was as blue collar as chicago itself. I know it's a business but was surprised how quickly the bulls moved on from rose.

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Quote from: justdimin on November 04, 2019, 09:41:36 AM

Portland has been there for years, for the past 5-6 years or so they have been a first round team, they managed to make it to conference finals but even they didn't believed beating the warriors themselves, so whats the point of being that good? Whats the point for Dallas? If you are not winning the ring then what are you even playing for?

The thing is, the west is full of major forces of nature. And to include all things up, the arrival of Kawhi and King James made it all spiced up. Probably if you're not winning any ring, you're probably just playing for money and fame. Many players don't speak like this but, some of them are really into money.

I forgot that there was a contract on a player in which he can receive $500,000 if he can maintain a certain percentage at the three-point line. So, before the last 4 games, I think he was at 41% 3 point FG, and then those last games, he didn't shot any threes. That's one of the evidence that they are playing for money. If not, for fame.

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Quote from: justdimin on November 04, 2019, 09:41:36 AM

Portland has been there for years, for the past 5-6 years or so they have been a first round team, they managed to make it to conference finals but even they didn't believed beating the warriors themselves, so whats the point of being that good? Whats the point for Dallas? If you are not winning the ring then what are you even playing for?

Wow! That is some hardcore analysis.
Every team have their chance and they are also building confidence to fight for that ring.
Who even thought that Dallas could win against a strong Miami Heat before? I dont think there is that much except for the real Dallas fans or the Lebron haters once again.

All of them have chances and now might be the team. Dallas is one of the powerhouse team also but the 2 superstars are still building their chemistry.
GSW won their championships because of that "chemistry" before they are even called stars. Curry, Green and Thompson.
That is also some hardcore effort and the will to win only.

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Dallas is not really bad but the west is so stacked that there is no way they could ever compete with anyone and that is the trouble with teams who are in the middle like Portland and now Dallas. You know you are not good enough to win a ring, you know you are not bad enough to get a draft pick neither so you are stuck at the middle where you are not getting any better but you are not getting any worse neither just mediocre for years.

Portland has been there for years, for the past 5-6 years or so they have been a first round team, they managed to make it to conference finals but even they didn't believed beating the warriors themselves, so whats the point of being that good? Whats the point for Dallas? If you are not winning the ring then what are you even playing for?

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Quote from: Botnake on November 03, 2019, 06:26:17 PM

Lakers had the momentum, they are in a winning streak so they probably continue that here.

Yup! Especially knowing the fact that they might become farther ahead from the others if they defeated Spurs. From 5-1 to 6-1, that's a huge inspiration to work harder

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Quote from: Botnake on November 03, 2019, 06:26:17 PM

he also trust his teammates a lot which I think they will again dominate the inside

That is also what I noticed over the years while watching Lebron play. He is now more of working with his teammates rather than doing "I am the King, I can do this on my own" plays. But in all fairness, he still manage to shine despite of competition from his fellow All Star teammates

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 04, 2019, 07:00:32 AM

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It will be a great story in the NBA since Lebron missed the last playoffs and now he will be in the playoffs and giving his team a championship. Grin

They can enter in the playoffs, that's easy but winning a championship, I don't think its that easy.
First, they will have to eliminate the best teams in the West like the Clippers, Jazz, Denver, and Dallas (let's add that one as they are rolling lately) Grin

One they win in the West, they might also face in the NBA finals, either the Bucks or the Sixers, but I think its likely Sixers as they have a lot of combination in the team, I mean a lot of stars.

Though you are right that it's not an easy way for the Lakers to win the ring, but with how they are playing right now it seems that they are willing to take every challenged. The last game against Mavs Lebron take the challenge competiting with young Doncic. The focus is between this two superstars and for sure it's pride of both players to show everything that they've got in order to satisfied the fans. But luckily for Lebron the past to Green save him and snatched the game.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 04, 2019, 05:21:25 AM

It will be a great story in the NBA since Lebron missed the last playoffs and now he will be in the playoffs and giving his team a championship. Grin

They can enter in the playoffs, that's easy but winning a championship, I don't think its that easy.
First, they will have to eliminate the best teams in the West like the Clippers, Jazz, Denver, and Dallas (let's add that one as they are rolling lately) Grin

One they win in the West, they might also face in the NBA finals, either the Bucks or the Sixers, but I think its likely Sixers as they have a lot of combination in the team, I mean a lot of stars.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on November 04, 2019, 04:49:26 AM

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 04, 2019, 01:48:05 AM

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How do you guys think the Lakers finish this season? Are they a 70-12 team or not?

I do not think they should target that. They are not actually a very young team. They better do load management for their key players when they can. Lebron needs it because of his age and AD because we all know he is prone to injury. Staying healthy and more prepared when April comes is more important than beating GSW record.

I think you're right. Aside from James and Green, there are no other star that has a championship pedigree in them so being healthy to be able to reach the finals is what they should focus.

Once they are already having a comfortable rank, they can rest their stars and I believe they can afford that as long as either Lebron or Davis will play when one is resting. They might also do some load management like what the Clippers are doing to Leonard, Lakers with the way they show, they will already entert in the playoffs and playoffs time is where it matters most.

It will be a great story in the NBA since Lebron missed the last playoffs and now he will be in the playoffs and giving his team a championship. Grin

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Quote from: jakelyson on November 04, 2019, 04:32:41 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on November 04, 2019, 01:48:05 AM

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How do you guys think the Lakers finish this season? Are they a 70-12 team or not?

I do not think they should target that. They are not actually a very young team. They better do load management for their key players when they can. Lebron needs it because of his age and AD because we all know he is prone to injury. Staying healthy and more prepared when April comes is more important than beating GSW record.

I didn't mean literally a 72-10 record. What I meant was can they top the wester conference? though I forgot it's not the best record anymore since the 2015-2016 GSW have done 73-9 record lol.
I guess every team is aiming to be on the top seed to compete a weaker team in the first round. Avoiding too much effort just to get passed the first round and avoid being stressed out that might end up into an injury.

Load management depends on the player if he will take it or not. AD needs it since he had history of injuries.

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Quote from: jakelyson on November 04, 2019, 04:32:41 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on November 04, 2019, 01:48:05 AM

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How do you guys think the Lakers finish this season? Are they a 70-12 team or not?

I do not think they should target that. They are not actually a very young team. They better do load management for their key players when they can. Lebron needs it because of his age and AD because we all know he is prone to injury. Staying healthy and more prepared when April comes is more important than beating GSW record.

I think you're right. Aside from James and Green, there are no other star that has a championship pedigree in them so being healthy to be able to reach the finals is what they should focus.

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 04, 2019, 01:48:05 AM

[...]
How do you guys think the Lakers finish this season? Are they a 70-12 team or not?

I do not think they should target that. They are not actually a very young team. They better do load management for their key players when they can. Lebron needs it because of his age and AD because we all know he is prone to injury. Staying healthy and more prepared when April comes is more important than beating GSW record.

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Quote from: Reid on November 04, 2019, 02:20:21 AM

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Dallas is still strong for me considering they fought well and even put the Lakers in that kind of position giving them a difficult time to win the game.

Dallas showing consistency and just win simply today by 20 points against the Mavericks, and we got Doncic again going a triple double in this game.
Congrats to the management of the Dallas Mavericks, they just form the future of Dallas that might deliver them another championship.

You mean against the Cavaliers? Grin

Yeah, saw the game.
Doncic was a monster with a stats of 14 rebounds 15 assists and 29 points. Wow.
This guy is really something else. He is literally an all around guy who can score outside and inside.
Also, we can see with his assists that he is giving free shots for his team mates.

So how to defend this guy? I want to see someone who could stop this guy.

This was the effect of Luka playing against the best in the league - Lebron James. His confidence grow and now we are seeing him posting MVP numbers (although it is still early this season).

How to stop him? Very hard, even if let's say he has a bad night, he can contribute by passing around. If he has a good game, then it's not very easily to go guard him one on one, if you double, he will throw to open team mates, if you don't put body on him, he can get 10++ rebounds easily. Perhaps like a Jason Kidd numbers during his prime.

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Quote from: Reid on November 04, 2019, 02:20:21 AM

So how to defend this guy? I want to see someone who could stop this guy.

No one can stop him because of his ability to pass, I mean, he has good vision in the court so he can do that.
Doncic already played the King and although they lose but they both made a triple double and made a history with that good showdown, if Dallas would have won that time, it would be more praise for Doncic then, but its alright as this guy does not need one time big time scoring since he can do it in a daily basis.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 04, 2019, 12:43:36 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on November 03, 2019, 10:38:21 PM

Dallas is still strong for me considering they fought well and even put the Lakers in that kind of position giving them a difficult time to win the game.

Dallas showing consistency and just win simply today by 20 points against the Mavericks, and we got Doncic again going a triple double in this game.
Congrats to the management of the Dallas Mavericks, they just form the future of Dallas that might deliver them another championship.

You mean against the Cavaliers? Grin

Yeah, saw the game.
Doncic was a monster with a stats of 14 rebounds 15 assists and 29 points. Wow.
This guy is really something else. He is literally an all around guy who can score outside and inside.
Also, we can see with his assists that he is giving free shots for his team mates.

So how to defend this guy? I want to see someone who could stop this guy.

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 04, 2019, 01:48:05 AM

How do you guys think the Lakers finish this season? Are they a 70-12 team or not?

That's not impossible, they only have 1 loss so far, and they are getting better and better after their first loss.
Eventually that chemistry and bond within the team will improve and that will help them comfortable of their individual role.
Lebron James is leading the team now, he already tally a 2nd straight triple double and he both won with that.

We know its still too early, but my judgement is just based on the signs I see.

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Quote from: jakelyson on November 04, 2019, 01:24:21 AM

Quote from: gabmen on November 03, 2019, 09:34:24 PM

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Well the lakers are looking a lot better than last year that's for sure. Davis and Green seemed to have fitted well so far. For Lebron and LAL haters out there, this current roster may run pretty deep in the playoffs if you base it on their recent games. Lebron may have finally built the team he's looking for to win a championship in the west. Coach pop honestly don't have all the tools yet to be back as a title contender.

They are way better than last year. They have champion players like McGee, Danny Green, Rondo and Lebron. They acquired an All-Star in Davis and Howard and they are a very tall and physical team right now. They are already a contender when they acquired AD and now they are surrounded with experienced players. That makes them even more dangerous.

Sure Lakers are a taller team than any other team in the NBA. If AD will be healthy throughout the whole season and post season and Howard will maintain to focus on rebounding and protecting the rim, then they will have a huge percentage to be in the NBA finals. Cousins isn't playing yet, he will be a good reliever to Dwight.

How do you guys think the Lakers finish this season? Are they a 70-12 team or not?

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