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Quote from: goinmerry on January 23, 2020, 04:41:00 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 23, 2020, 04:32:51 PM

But they wont compete with the big boys just yet they need some of these young guys to get more consistent and keep zion healthy.

Not just Zion but Pelicans should make some move about acquiring a big man or those who are reliable under the paint either offense or defense. They clearly lack of it. They don't need that many players who are pure perimeter gunners within the rainbow area.

Pelicans should not waste the talents of their young guys. They should not repeat what they did during the Anthony Davis era where they didn't do anything to surround Davis with decent players for several seasons.

I agree, they should wake up that one isn't enough to lift the team or they will end up Zion finding a contender team few years from now. It's not bad having lots of perimeter gunner as long as it's getting in and they are consistent. If not, then the management should give another way to fill in the lack like you've said reliable big guys inside the paint. Anyway, i've read an article that Lonzo and Zion could be the next Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp, what do you guys think about it?

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Quote from: Maotezi on January 23, 2020, 01:39:24 PM

I think Washington can win

I'm scouting on them for their next matches. Latest will be against Cavs but I think it's late for me to bet for this one.

I'll try to get in with their match next week for Monday and Wednesday but for the Wednesday's match, I'll go for Bucks.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on January 23, 2020, 05:34:18 PM

I also see that Spurs is not forcing to guard Zion, it is like that they are wanting him to have a good game or having a good debut in the NBA.

I can't agree with you, otherwise this league has become an obvious rig.
Him scoring that much is nothing new, he is really good that's why he was the number 1 overall pick this season, but one game doesn't prove much, we want to see if he is consistent enough in the next few games, and if he still getting that good points, then he can help this team to rank up.

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Quote from: bamboylee on January 23, 2020, 12:36:04 PM

Quote from: Captain Corporate on January 23, 2020, 05:38:42 AM

Sure he will be a good player as long as he stays healthy but I am also scared dude will be expected to be a great scorer from everywhere of the court.

It is pretty much expected from every star to score from everywhere in the court. That is how the game is evolving. It is not enough for a star to just being dominant inside the paint, they need to have outside shooting as well. If they don't evolve their game, they will be shutdown come playoffs.

Yes, but with the injuries at hand, he can't just force himself all over the court. I also see that Spurs is not forcing to guard Zion, it is like that they are wanting him to have a good game or having a good debut in the NBA. I don't know but that is what I am seeing, whay do you think?

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Quote from: goinmerry on January 23, 2020, 04:41:00 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 23, 2020, 04:32:51 PM

But they wont compete with the big boys just yet they need some of these young guys to get more consistent and keep zion healthy.

Not just Zion but Pelicans should make some move about acquiring a big man or those who are reliable under the paint either offense or defense. They clearly lack of it. They don't need that many players who are pure perimeter gunners within the rainbow area.

Pelicans should not waste the talents of their young guys. They should not repeat what they did during the Anthony Davis era where they didn't do anything to surround Davis with decent players for several seasons.

It's a good point and it might be worth them trading some draft pick assets to get someone like an andre Drummond in the middle. That would be a solid team right there. I dont know what their cap space looks like but veteran leadership journeyman type players are always good for the youngins to rely on as well.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 23, 2020, 04:32:51 PM

But they wont compete with the big boys just yet they need some of these young guys to get more consistent and keep zion healthy.

Not just Zion but Pelicans should make some move about acquiring a big man or those who are reliable under the paint either offense or defense. They clearly lack of it. They don't need that many players who are pure perimeter gunners within the rainbow area.

Pelicans should not waste the talents of their young guys. They should not repeat what they did during the Anthony Davis era where they didn't do anything to surround Davis with decent players for several seasons.

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Quote from: harizen on January 23, 2020, 04:20:03 PM

Quote from: Reid on January 23, 2020, 09:21:27 AM

This is something really enormous for New Orleans.
When was the last time they went to the playoffs?
Oh it was just 2018. I forgot they got Anthony Davis back then. So confused now with a lot of trades. They even got until conference Finals against GSW.

And looks like no playoff appearance for them now. I even offer a bet on it but unfortunately, no one accepts it.

Also, another year again to Brandon Ingram and Lonzo Ball without playoffs.

J.J Redick will surely disappointed at this. He never missed playoffs for 13 seasons and even throw a joke at Zion not to screw his playoffs streak lol.

Lonzo ball has only played a couple of years so it's not like he has missed the playoffs for a decade. They arent completely out of it with a decent portion of the season left. But they wont compete with the big boys just yet they need some of these young guys to get more consistent and keep zion healthy.

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Quote from: Reid on January 23, 2020, 09:21:27 AM

This is something really enormous for New Orleans.
When was the last time they went to the playoffs?
Oh it was just 2018. I forgot they got Anthony Davis back then. So confused now with a lot of trades. They even got until conference Finals against GSW.

And looks like no playoff appearance for them now. I even offer a bet on it but unfortunately, no one accepts it.

Also, another year again to Brandon Ingram and Lonzo Ball without playoffs.

J.J Redick will surely disappointed at this. He never missed playoffs for 13 seasons and even throw a joke at Zion not to screw his playoffs streak lol.

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Quote from: Theb on January 23, 2020, 01:41:27 PM

Quote from: Heartilly on January 23, 2020, 01:20:36 PM

Zion surprised me on that last quarter and it almost took them on a win. If ever that's happened, a big name ZION will spread all over the news. He just exploded in the last quarter and he is really nailing that shot. Although to what I noticed, those three-pointers made by Zion aren't guarded properly so I blame Spurs here for their poor defense. But in the end, they still managed to escape that rally by the Pelicans.

Noticed also the passing skills of Lonzo Ball. That's his main forte' even back on Lakers.

If you notice the replay you'll see that their defense against Zion isn't really what you normally see on Coach Pop's playbook, usually players like him won't be left unguarded. They might played differently against him either because they don't want to be the team who will re-injure Williamson or they just want him to get a good NBA debut of his rookie career. Other things I have notice is that Williamson isn't driving that much to the basket and he wants to spot up a shot as fast as he can, he might still be worried about his injury and doesn't want to be careless as well.

They left him open because they wanted him to shoot from the outside. In the nba you have to prove you can hit an outside shot, driving is his bread and butter he wasnt a prolific 3 point shooter at duke. If you play hard up tight he will blow by you, they were baiting him into shooting, only it backfired because he drained them.

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Quote from: Heartilly on January 23, 2020, 01:20:36 PM

Zion surprised me on that last quarter and it almost took them on a win. If ever that's happened, a big name ZION will spread all over the news. He just exploded in the last quarter and he is really nailing that shot. Although to what I noticed, those three-pointers made by Zion aren't guarded properly so I blame Spurs here for their poor defense. But in the end, they still managed to escape that rally by the Pelicans.

Noticed also the passing skills of Lonzo Ball. That's his main forte' even back on Lakers.

If you notice the replay you'll see that their defense against Zion isn't really what you normally see on Coach Pop's playbook, usually players like him won't be left unguarded. They might played differently against him either because they don't want to be the team who will re-injure Williamson or they just want him to get a good NBA debut of his rookie career. Other things I have notice is that Williamson isn't driving that much to the basket and he wants to spot up a shot as fast as he can, he might still be worried about his injury and doesn't want to be careless as well.

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I think Washington can win, it will be routine for the Lakers, Luke Doncic beats Portland on the way, I think it will be the most interesting game, while the Milwaukee Bukcs will overtake the Hornets.

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Zion surprised me on that last quarter and it almost took them on a win. If ever that's happened, a big name ZION will spread all over the news. He just exploded in the last quarter and he is really nailing that shot. Although to what I noticed, those three-pointers made by Zion aren't guarded properly so I blame Spurs here for their poor defense. But in the end, they still managed to escape that rally by the Pelicans.

Noticed also the passing skills of Lonzo Ball. That's his main forte' even back on Lakers.

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What really shocked me is that, Spurs have been playing amazingly in the last 10-15 games but all their losses came from not being able to close out games, watch the last 10 minutes of last nights game and you will see that they actually found ways to score no matter how hard it got, if Spurs can actually close out games like this for the rest of the year I think 7th spot is not really out of question just yet.

Right now they are back on 8th seed, it is really a huge fight between Memphis, spurs and even Portland for a while there, so all 3 teams trying their best to get that 8th seed and be in playoffs but at the same time only one of them can get in. I can't wait to see how Pop reacts to their last minutes this time around and if he will change anything to keep this up. Playing Derozan at PF was really a marginal decision but it looks like it is actually working out for them.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on January 23, 2020, 05:38:42 AM

Sure he will be a good player as long as he stays healthy but I am also scared dude will be expected to be a great scorer from everywhere of the court.

It is pretty much expected from every star to score from everywhere in the court. That is how the game is evolving. It is not enough for a star to just being dominant inside the paint, they need to have outside shooting as well. If they don't evolve their game, they will be shutdown come playoffs.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on January 23, 2020, 05:38:42 AM

I am really scared for Zion after this performence. Maybe this was just an outlier and he normally doesn't play like this, maybe dude will just play more of a charles barkley type of game where he is just grabbing rebounds and scoring dunks? I mean we all can see that he can shoot threes now, however just because of this game doesn't mean he has talents like curry to shoot threes, nobody should increase their expectations of him so suddenly after just one game. Sure he will be a good player as long as he stays healthy but I am also scared dude will be expected to be a great scorer from everywhere of the court.

It was the first game in NBA. You should watch his plays from last season he was in Duke Blue Devils: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlSqCaJ1MGc. He is no joke. He was NBA first draft pick 2019. He is still has lot to go through but showing such signs at debut is promising.

Excited to see how he performs in next.

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Quote from: xLays on January 23, 2020, 04:53:03 AM

Here's some highlights of Zion Williamson NBA Debut: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=115173626513645

He scored 17 points straight in the 4th quarter!

He's still in recovery mode. Was given a limited time to play the game. With that "limited time" he was given, he still showed promise. He even doubled Ben Simmons' three point field goal in his whole career with just 86 seconds. Ben Simmons was 2-22 FG and Zion got 4-4 from downtown that game.

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Losses are a normal part of sport. I had a feeling that pelicans would lose this game because they were going up against a red hot spurs team. A lot of people under value how good Spurs actually are. Zion and the Pelicans will gel together though, it might take around 10 - 15 games for this to happen though. I do not know if Zion will be seeing the play offs this year, but it would be really fun to see him compete in the playoffs.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on January 23, 2020, 08:29:23 AM

Quote from: Avirunes on January 23, 2020, 05:08:36 AM

Quote from: xLays on January 23, 2020, 04:53:03 AM

Here's some highlights of Zion Williamson NBA Debut: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=115173626513645

He scored 17 points straight in the 4th quarter!

What a game to make a debit after coming back from knee injury. He kept his composure and scored some good and sweet 3 pointers. Out of 22 , 17 came from that quarter...wow what an impact. Though they lost it but Williamson getting back will boost Pelicans from hereon.

That's right, even with loss Williamson will get his composure going to the next game he would play. Even with limited minutes, he played monster game against a renowned team like the Spurs.

Yes, New Orleans might now be talking a lot about him.
They will gain a lot of audience starting now.
Just thinking that there could be a chance for a playoffs game will make you cheer for them and even go watch it live.

This is something really enormous for New Orleans.
When was the last time they went to the playoffs?
Oh it was just 2018. I forgot they got Anthony Davis back then. So confused now with a lot of trades. They even got until conference Finals against GSW.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on January 23, 2020, 08:29:23 AM

Quote from: Avirunes on January 23, 2020, 05:08:36 AM

Quote from: xLays on January 23, 2020, 04:53:03 AM

Here's some highlights of Zion Williamson NBA Debut: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=115173626513645

He scored 17 points straight in the 4th quarter!

What a game to make a debit after coming back from knee injury. He kept his composure and scored some good and sweet 3 pointers. Out of 22 , 17 came from that quarter...wow what an impact. Though they lost it but Williamson getting back will boost Pelicans from hereon.

That's right, even with loss Williamson will get his composure going to the next game he would play. Even with limited minutes, he played monster game against a renowned team like the Spurs.

They tried to make a comeback in the 4th quarter but they were short.
Z. Williamson scored 22 points in just 18 minutes, I think that's awesome, more games like this and he will get his full confidence back.

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Quote from: Avirunes on January 23, 2020, 05:08:36 AM

Quote from: xLays on January 23, 2020, 04:53:03 AM

Here's some highlights of Zion Williamson NBA Debut: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=115173626513645

He scored 17 points straight in the 4th quarter!

What a game to make a debit after coming back from knee injury. He kept his composure and scored some good and sweet 3 pointers. Out of 22 , 17 came from that quarter...wow what an impact. Though they lost it but Williamson getting back will boost Pelicans from hereon.

That's right, even with loss Williamson will get his composure going to the next game he would play. Even with limited minutes, he played monster game against a renowned team like the Spurs.

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