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October 16, 2019, 05:46:47 AM
The trade benefits both side, in the short span of time Lakers become aspirant for this season, while in the long process if Pelicans able to kept there squad and norture them to build a good chemistry together., They can create another super team inside the league.

Having the first pick does not mean that they will be a great team in the future, this still depends on a lot of factors and of course we cannot underestimate the possibility of injuries which we hope won't happen.


But Lakers is the most beneficial for the trade. Remember that Anthony Davis is first rank in draft pick too which already proves his worth. But Zion Williamson showing the strong game in the pre-season.
So Pelicans might form a good team too once they fully utilize Zion. But I doubt that they will enter the play-offs. There are too many strong teams in the West right now.
The only teams that can guarantee a spot in play-offs in the western conference are GSW and Lakers.


I definitely agree with you, since the Pelicans players are still young. Maybe they can make it to the playoffs but most likely they will not reach the conference finals.
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October 16, 2019, 05:44:03 AM
I don't care if any of the pelicans trade players from lakers become really good, they got Anthony Davis in return, that is good enough, none of those guys could be better than Anthony Davis himself, we are talking about one of the best bigs in the league right now, sure he has a really bad injury problem that may cause Lakers some problems down the road but since they have AD already how good can Lonzo or Ingram get? There is no way they will get THAT good in this short span of time.

However, if they kept all their players from all the drafts they could had a team of Lonzo+D'Lo+Ingram+Kuzma+Randle as a starting 5, now I am not saying that team is awesome but that team looks like it could win a ring in 5 years or so when all these superstars go. Pelicans have a real shot at becoming a really good team if they develop their players right but in any case it won't be "Lebron James + Anthony Davis" level of good.

The fact that the Lakers got AD from the Pelicans trade, without a doubt, Lakers definitely win it all. Ball and Ingram are still developing their skills and are relatively young, they still dont have the mentality of becoming a champion. While Lebron is absolutely looking for another ring, so as AD is looking for his first one.
If the Pelicans keep this roster for the next 3 to 5 years, then I can say they can really have a shot to win a ring, of course with Zion's leadership.
Developing players to be more competitive will take some time, and you are right LeBron is not getting any younger he needs player who can step up and help him bringing the ring to his team. He don't have team to tutor someone and be stress while playing alongside with them.

The trade benefits both side, in the short span of time Lakers become aspirant for this season, while in the long process if Pelicans able to kept there squad and norture them to build a good chemistry together., They can create another super team inside the league.

Very well said!
I was really thinking, judging from their pre-season game, AD, Bron, and McGee is a perfect complement for each other. I mean this guys has a lot of something to show the fans this season. I'm also guessing Lebron orchestrated this AD trade as he knows who he can play better just like Dwade in Miami.
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October 16, 2019, 04:43:25 AM
The trade benefits both side, in the short span of time Lakers become aspirant for this season, while in the long process if Pelicans able to kept there squad and norture them to build a good chemistry together., They can create another super team inside the league.

Having the first pick does not mean that they will be a great team in the future, this still depends on a lot of factors and of course we cannot underestimate the possibility of injuries which we hope won't happen.


But Lakers is the most beneficial for the trade. Remember that Anthony Davis is first rank in draft pick too which already proves his worth. But Zion Williamson showing the strong game in the pre-season.
So Pelicans might form a good team too once they fully utilize Zion. But I doubt that they will enter the play-offs. There are too many strong teams in the West right now.
The only teams that can guarantee a spot in play-offs in the western conference are GSW and Lakers.
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October 16, 2019, 03:46:08 AM
Interesting article from the Times today

ESPN’s politics policy, and its journalism, tested by NBA-China controversy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/10/15/espns-politics-policy-its-journalism-tested-by-nba-china-controversy/

Ergh! Politics. I dont want to talk about it when I am in my normal mind.
Maybe when I am drunk, I can surely talk about it the whole night.

ESPN should really stop that by now.
Go back to sports. You are not CNN or other News related shows about those politics and other stuffs about countries.
Stay from reporting basketball, football or anything that has to do with just sports.

Morey have his own opinion about this. He is in a democratic country so it should just be normal. Why make it larger than that?
Sorry for bringing politics into this its just a hot topic globally right now.

Here is a change of pace:
The cheapest MVPs in NBA history relative to the league salary cap
https://hoopshype.com/2019/10/15/the-cheapest-mvps-in-nba-history-relative-to-the-league-salary-cap/
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October 16, 2019, 01:44:05 AM
Interesting article from the Times today

ESPN’s politics policy, and its journalism, tested by NBA-China controversy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/10/15/espns-politics-policy-its-journalism-tested-by-nba-china-controversy/
IMHO, this seems to be a big deal for most. I'm still reading the article and watching some videos related to it. Politics should be outside the NBA's premise and should focus to the goal of NBA.

@Reid, well that's also my thought regarding this matter and this can even trigger more about both country's trade war.
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October 16, 2019, 01:20:36 AM
The trade benefits both side, in the short span of time Lakers become aspirant for this season, while in the long process if Pelicans able to kept there squad and norture them to build a good chemistry together., They can create another super team inside the league.

For me, I cannot make judgement at this early stage yet.
Pelicans is hype now because they have the first pick but let's give them some time and evaluate if they can show some consistency.
Having the first pick does not mean that they will be a great team in the future, this still depends on a lot of factors and of course we cannot underestimate the possibility of injuries which we hope won't happen.

For me, the Pelicans to be in the playoffs this season would already be a big achievement.
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October 15, 2019, 11:25:57 PM
I don't care if any of the pelicans trade players from lakers become really good, they got Anthony Davis in return, that is good enough, none of those guys could be better than Anthony Davis himself, we are talking about one of the best bigs in the league right now, sure he has a really bad injury problem that may cause Lakers some problems down the road but since they have AD already how good can Lonzo or Ingram get? There is no way they will get THAT good in this short span of time.

However, if they kept all their players from all the drafts they could had a team of Lonzo+D'Lo+Ingram+Kuzma+Randle as a starting 5, now I am not saying that team is awesome but that team looks like it could win a ring in 5 years or so when all these superstars go. Pelicans have a real shot at becoming a really good team if they develop their players right but in any case it won't be "Lebron James + Anthony Davis" level of good.

The fact that the Lakers got AD from the Pelicans trade, without a doubt, Lakers definitely win it all. Ball and Ingram are still developing their skills and are relatively young, they still dont have the mentality of becoming a champion. While Lebron is absolutely looking for another ring, so as AD is looking for his first one.
If the Pelicans keep this roster for the next 3 to 5 years, then I can say they can really have a shot to win a ring, of course with Zion's leadership.
Developing players to be more competitive will take some time, and you are right LeBron is not getting any younger he needs player who can step up and help him bringing the ring to his team. He don't have team to tutor someone and be stress while playing alongside with them.

The trade benefits both side, in the short span of time Lakers become aspirant for this season, while in the long process if Pelicans able to kept there squad and norture them to build a good chemistry together., They can create another super team inside the league.
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October 15, 2019, 10:49:13 PM
I don't care if any of the pelicans trade players from lakers become really good, they got Anthony Davis in return, that is good enough, none of those guys could be better than Anthony Davis himself, we are talking about one of the best bigs in the league right now, sure he has a really bad injury problem that may cause Lakers some problems down the road but since they have AD already how good can Lonzo or Ingram get? There is no way they will get THAT good in this short span of time.

However, if they kept all their players from all the drafts they could had a team of Lonzo+D'Lo+Ingram+Kuzma+Randle as a starting 5, now I am not saying that team is awesome but that team looks like it could win a ring in 5 years or so when all these superstars go. Pelicans have a real shot at becoming a really good team if they develop their players right but in any case it won't be "Lebron James + Anthony Davis" level of good.

The fact that the Lakers got AD from the Pelicans trade, without a doubt, Lakers definitely win it all. Ball and Ingram are still developing their skills and are relatively young, they still dont have the mentality of becoming a champion. While Lebron is absolutely looking for another ring, so as AD is looking for his first one.
If the Pelicans keep this roster for the next 3 to 5 years, then I can say they can really have a shot to win a ring, of course with Zion's leadership.
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October 15, 2019, 09:28:21 PM
Interesting article from the Times today

ESPN’s politics policy, and its journalism, tested by NBA-China controversy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/10/15/espns-politics-policy-its-journalism-tested-by-nba-china-controversy/

Ergh! Politics. I dont want to talk about it when I am in my normal mind.
Maybe when I am drunk, I can surely talk about it the whole night.

ESPN should really stop that by now.
Go back to sports. You are not CNN or other News related shows about those politics and other stuffs about countries.
Stay from reporting basketball, football or anything that has to do with just sports.

Morey have his own opinion about this. He is in a democratic country so it should just be normal. Why make it larger than that?
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October 15, 2019, 09:16:29 PM
Interesting article from the Times today

ESPN’s politics policy, and its journalism, tested by NBA-China controversy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/10/15/espns-politics-policy-its-journalism-tested-by-nba-china-controversy/
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October 15, 2019, 07:01:01 PM
However, if they kept all their players from all the drafts they could had a team of Lonzo+D'Lo+Ingram+Kuzma+Randle as a starting 5, now I am not saying that team is awesome but that team looks like it could win a ring in 5 years or so when all these superstars go. Pelicans have a real shot at becoming a really good team if they develop their players right but in any case it won't be "Lebron James + Anthony Davis" level of good.

Pelicans will develop but it will take time as they still have to earn experience to be matured enough during the playoffs.
When Davis was drafted with the Pelicans, I thought the pelicans were a great contender, they improve their line up by adding star players like Rondo, and Cousins but still failed as they got dominated by the warriors every time, but this time that Davis is already with the Lakers, he will make sure he and Lebron will beat the best team in the NBA.
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October 15, 2019, 06:54:10 PM
I didn't know Clippers is so favorable by odds, I was surprised honestly. They started 2-2 though. Bucks is also very favorable and they started 4-0. It would be an exciting season, I can feel.

Lakers and Clippers always shared the same odds as Favorites since their respective lineup changed. There should be some changes once the season starts.

The season hasn't started yet just in case you missed it. The current standing you saw is for pre-season.



In this case, we can only based on its stats and he hasn't proven anything yet.
let's wait until the regular season and then we will make some judgement, compared to zion, I think zion is the better one because he was the number 1 overall pick this season and he has showed good records in this pre season and I am expect that will carry out in the regular season since he is a starter and will surely earn a lot of minutes.

There is no sense to compare Fall to Zion for an obvious reason mate, Undrafted vs Top overall pick.

Fall will officially play to Boston's newly acquired G-League team as part of developing him. A good chance to improve himself if ever he will come back to the NBA. The fact that no team drafted Fall during the NBA draft is proof that the majority of teams see that he is not ready yet to the official action in the NBA. NBA team scouts are professional and strict but still Fall doesn't meet their criteria despite his height advantage. There is more room for improvements that's why Celtics wants to develop him.

Fall might get more minutes in their upcoming pre-season match again the Cavaliers since their starters won't be present. Good opportunity to him to showcase more of his skills compare to past game where he only got limited minutes even for a pre-season game.
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October 15, 2019, 03:10:46 PM
I don't care if any of the pelicans trade players from lakers become really good, they got Anthony Davis in return, that is good enough, none of those guys could be better than Anthony Davis himself, we are talking about one of the best bigs in the league right now, sure he has a really bad injury problem that may cause Lakers some problems down the road but since they have AD already how good can Lonzo or Ingram get? There is no way they will get THAT good in this short span of time.

However, if they kept all their players from all the drafts they could had a team of Lonzo+D'Lo+Ingram+Kuzma+Randle as a starting 5, now I am not saying that team is awesome but that team looks like it could win a ring in 5 years or so when all these superstars go. Pelicans have a real shot at becoming a really good team if they develop their players right but in any case it won't be "Lebron James + Anthony Davis" level of good.

I do agree.
But just like you said these guys are still young, they can build it up and somehow make it to a championship someday.
I am not saying it will be now. I just want us to see that they have a good roster now that could have a possibility to enter the playoffs if done right.
Just like the roster of the Lakers, they also have a good 2nd stringer team.  Grin When I say good, it aint that bad.
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October 15, 2019, 02:14:25 PM
I don't care if any of the pelicans trade players from lakers become really good, they got Anthony Davis in return, that is good enough, none of those guys could be better than Anthony Davis himself, we are talking about one of the best bigs in the league right now, sure he has a really bad injury problem that may cause Lakers some problems down the road but since they have AD already how good can Lonzo or Ingram get? There is no way they will get THAT good in this short span of time.

However, if they kept all their players from all the drafts they could had a team of Lonzo+D'Lo+Ingram+Kuzma+Randle as a starting 5, now I am not saying that team is awesome but that team looks like it could win a ring in 5 years or so when all these superstars go. Pelicans have a real shot at becoming a really good team if they develop their players right but in any case it won't be "Lebron James + Anthony Davis" level of good.
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October 15, 2019, 09:36:27 AM
Everybody here are talking about Zion Williamson and how he would dominate the NBA in his young career. But does anybody noticed Taco Fall and how he boost the morale of his team through the cheering from their fans? I mean this kid has a lot of potential in his basketball career and I think he would be a vital part of the team in the future. What do you guys think about this kid?
In this case, we can only based on its stats and he hasn't proven anything yet.
let's wait until the regular season and then we will make some judgement, compared to zion, I think zion is the better one because he was the number 1 overall pick this season and he has showed good records in this pre season and I am expect that will carry out in the regular season since he is a starter and will surely earn a lot of minutes.
Zion W. will be the center of Pelicans this season, very athletic and has the potential to be the next big superstar in the NBA.

However, Taco with his height, could be a good contribution to the Celtics as well. That if he will be given time to play and show his skills otherwise, he will be just a regular tall and lanky guy in the NBA. If he will be given quality minutes, I'm sure he will take advantage of it, maybe we can see him play more in defense though, blocking sides, changing shots of the opposing team and of course take the easy rebounds.
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October 15, 2019, 09:30:28 AM
Everybody here are talking about Zion Williamson and how he would dominate the NBA in his young career. But does anybody noticed Taco Fall and how he boost the morale of his team through the cheering from their fans? I mean this kid has a lot of potential in his basketball career and I think he would be a vital part of the team in the future. What do you guys think about this kid?
In this case, we can only based on its stats and he hasn't proven anything yet.
let's wait until the regular season and then we will make some judgement, compared to zion, I think zion is the better one because he was the number 1 overall pick this season and he has showed good records in this pre season and I am expect that will carry out in the regular season since he is a starter and will surely earn a lot of minutes.

Yeah he Zion is much better because of his athleticism, but what Fall has is his humongous hight advantage which can make his opponents hesitate in taking the shot.
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October 15, 2019, 07:00:06 AM
I am proud to say that I am the first one to vote for the poll.
I voted for the Golden State Warriors to be the champion this coming season because I trust the old warriors and I believe Curry might become MVP this season.

Some might overlooked the Warriors because they are too focus with the improvement of 3 good teams in the west but they forgot that the Warriors has already build a system and they trust each other, as Curry is expected to drop more points this season, his stats will improve and as long as they stay in a good ranking when Thompson return, they can surely get into playoffs and will still be one of the toughest team to beat.
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October 15, 2019, 06:46:18 AM
Everybody here are talking about Zion Williamson and how he would dominate the NBA in his young career. But does anybody noticed Taco Fall and how he boost the morale of his team through the cheering from their fans? I mean this kid has a lot of potential in his basketball career and I think he would be a vital part of the team in the future. What do you guys think about this kid?

He was signed as far as a know into a two way contract, meaning he will play for Celtics or spend 45 days with the Celtics and then go back to Maine Red Claws after that. So it really depends on that 45 days, if we are going to see him play in Celtics uniform and see how he contributes, maybe that two way contract could turn into a one or two year contract.
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October 15, 2019, 06:43:16 AM
I renewed poll for 2020 NBA Champion. I sorted teams by their winning odds according to Action Network. If you have any other suggestions feel free to chime in.
I was kinda away for NBA games discussion lately. This thread help me a lot to find latest discussion. I didn't know Clippers is so favorable by odds, I was surprised honestly. They started 2-2 though. Bucks is also very favorable and they started 4-0. It would be an exciting season, I can feel.
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October 15, 2019, 06:35:11 AM
Everybody here are talking about Zion Williamson and how he would dominate the NBA in his young career. But does anybody noticed Taco Fall and how he boost the morale of his team through the cheering from their fans? I mean this kid has a lot of potential in his basketball career and I think he would be a vital part of the team in the future. What do you guys think about this kid?
In this case, we can only based on its stats and he hasn't proven anything yet.
let's wait until the regular season and then we will make some judgement, compared to zion, I think zion is the better one because he was the number 1 overall pick this season and he has showed good records in this pre season and I am expect that will carry out in the regular season since he is a starter and will surely earn a lot of minutes.
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