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December 17, 2019, 02:32:29 PM

With the Dallas Mavericks winning over the dominant Milwaukee Bucks, their NBA Future Odds now changed to @27 from I think around @47 the last time I saw it less than a week ago. What a big leap or maybe I missed the other numbers from between @27 to @47.



Maybe you got a point there, Vegas is the gambling capital of the world and they might have the power to manipulate everything that includes gambling.the odds are heavily favored the Bucks and putting a bet to the Dallas team means winning a lot more. There might be something or someone behind this game. Only that's just a hypothesis I was saying though.

If you really watched the game, you won't be able to insert that hypothesis why the Mavs won.

That spread was definitely meant to trap the gamblers. It's nothing to do with the Mavs winning that game. And take note that odds providers will not just provide a line without analyzations. Others already considered that Luka's absence is an easy win to Bucks but try to look at the Mavericks' other player stats. There is enough firepower even Luka was out. And I think Mavericks' recent performance without Luka against the Miami Heat plays a big role for that provided spread.

I will give an example: (prior to Bucks game)

-against Heat: (without Luka)
Porzingis@22
Hardaway Jr@28
Brunson@18
Kleber@17
Barea @12

-against Pistons (with Luka)
Porzingis@20
Curry@30

-against Kings (with Luka)
2 players @ 26 points
Hardaway Jr@27

... and many more. This just shows that even Luka is putting high numbers, his teammates are also stepping up making good numbers too.
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December 17, 2019, 01:39:08 PM
As much as I also want the Mavs to reach the WCF, but there will be a lot of challenge for them to reach that far.
Lakers and Clippers surely are a great challenge for them, while the trailing Rockets and Nuggets are both a good playoff team with a lot of experience too. Experience is a big advantage and It was proven so many times in the playoffs. Reaching the playoffs will be the first step for the Mavs, winning the conference will be the next, and the last would be winning it all.

There is a challenge in every team there is right now. It is a balanced NBA season and no team has a clear spot for the conference or NBA finals. As good as the Lakers are playing right now, they are not also assured for the finals. So is MAVS. Mavs may not have the experience but maybe their gutsy plays can carry them to the WCF finals and maybe farther.


It's agreeable as we see that even the super teams are ain't sure for the final spot, there's  tough competitions that's ongoing with the favorites franchise. Mav's with how they are delighting the league is also manageable to compete with any team, though it's still far as we are still in the regular season but if you pay attentions with how this team working together to keep trying to win from each games that they've take.
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December 17, 2019, 11:15:39 AM
Dallas is going with a great regular season, Miami and Dallas are the two teams nobody expected to be this good and they have been bringing a great entertainment to league.

But, let's be honest, as soon as playoffs come these teams can survive the first round and that will be all, they will most certainly fail to win against whoever comes against them on conference semi finals. East has teams like bucks, Sixers, raptors, Celtics which are all deserve to be on semi finals and if not one of them beat Miami on semi finals.

West has teams like Lakers, clippers and rockets, if Dallas manages to beat levels of Utah, Denver, Portland and whoever else at the first round they will surely lose to main teams on semi finals. This season already has great teams, the surprising ones can only manage to surprise us during the regular season.
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December 17, 2019, 07:59:40 AM
As much as I also want the Mavs to reach the WCF, but there will be a lot of challenge for them to reach that far.
Lakers and Clippers surely are a great challenge for them, while the trailing Rockets and Nuggets are both a good playoff team with a lot of experience too. Experience is a big advantage and It was proven so many times in the playoffs. Reaching the playoffs will be the first step for the Mavs, winning the conference will be the next, and the last would be winning it all.

There is a challenge in every team there is right now. It is a balanced NBA season and no team has a clear spot for the conference or NBA finals. As good as the Lakers are playing right now, they are not also assured for the finals. So is MAVS. Mavs may not have the experience but maybe their gutsy plays can carry them to the WCF finals and maybe farther.

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December 17, 2019, 07:45:52 AM
I'm not shocked at the Mavs winning at all, I said that this game is a trap as the line should of been a lot bigger then the +10.5, clearly Vegas knew something and wouldn't move the line. I always see people fall for this when a big star doesn't play and more times then not that team plays well and covers or in this case wins the game. The Mavs have now beaten the Lakers and Bucks on their home courts which is interesting as most of us have the Bucks and Lakers in the NBA Championship finals. I really thought the best underdog was the Grizzlies but I took them to cover to be safe but it was a hard fought win by them in the end and I think they are a team to watch out for when playing at home.

Looks like it.
Many took the bait because of the Luka hype with injury.
They see him as their superstar so it will be a long shot to get a win.
But they did. This ain't luck anymore.
Those guys are also doing hard work while Luka is gaining more fans. They need to also ride the wave to make it the championship.
They cannot just sit there because their pointguard is out. Look at how Curry handled everything and then KP making big shots away from the 3 point line.
It is just not the last Mavericks anymore.

They need to show this kind of spirit even Luka is out and they did well.
Actually the last time against the heat, they rally but they fell short, that could have been a win for them.
Luka is good but this team is recognize this year not only because of him, but because they have overhaul, improve their line up and it seem like they found the right mixture to be successful, without a doubt, they can win games on any team as they beat the Bucks which is one of the best team in the NBA.
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December 17, 2019, 07:35:56 AM
But they did. This ain't luck anymore.
Those guys are also doing hard work while Luka is gaining more fans. They need to also ride the wave to make it the championship.
Indeed, they prove to themselves and to their supporters that the whole team can still stand even without Luka. They will always be a threat for other teams thus they should watch out. Porzingris is still present; and with the help of Wright, Hardaway, Curry and veteran Barea they can pull this of Cheesy. I hope Luka will recover very soon because whatever we say teh bottom line is they're less strong.
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December 17, 2019, 07:10:53 AM
I'm not shocked at the Mavs winning at all, I said that this game is a trap as the line should of been a lot bigger then the +10.5, clearly Vegas knew something and wouldn't move the line. I always see people fall for this when a big star doesn't play and more times then not that team plays well and covers or in this case wins the game. The Mavs have now beaten the Lakers and Bucks on their home courts which is interesting as most of us have the Bucks and Lakers in the NBA Championship finals. I really thought the best underdog was the Grizzlies but I took them to cover to be safe but it was a hard fought win by them in the end and I think they are a team to watch out for when playing at home.

Looks like it.
Many took the bait because of the Luka hype with injury.
They see him as their superstar so it will be a long shot to get a win.
But they did. This ain't luck anymore.
Those guys are also doing hard work while Luka is gaining more fans. They need to also ride the wave to make it the championship.
They cannot just sit there because their pointguard is out. Look at how Curry handled everything and then KP making big shots away from the 3 point line.
It is just not the last Mavericks anymore.
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December 17, 2019, 06:50:13 AM
OMG! I am shocked too. Dallas could win against a strong Bucks without Luka.
Haha, many were shocked including us with this defeat of Bucks. As we thought that this was already a sure win for them but I guess we're all wrong this time. Kudos to Dallas for breaking the streak of Bucks.

And that's a big handicap for them even without Doncic, they've won against a powerhouse and favorable team. We thought that the streak will be shown by Friday but it's all wrong.
AFAIR it was the bucks who stopped the winning streak of the Warriors way back, now they also got stop by a Dallas Mavericks that we don't even think has a chance of winning against the best team in the NBA since Luka was out due to injury.

Now the Mavericks have proven that they don't rely on one man to win, they have a system employed that makes them a better team.

Oh yeah!! Love how you put that in a sentence. I cannot do that.  Grin

I just finished watching the replay of the game and man! that was really a crazy game. The Bucks really wanted that win and they made a lot of effort specially Giannis. Even with those last seconds of the game.
3 point lead for the Mavs and Tim needs to shoot just 1 free throw to seal it
He missed one and the tension was there for the second free throw.
It did went in so that closed the game.
But the effort was really there, they want to continue the streak but just a little short.
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December 17, 2019, 06:32:35 AM
I'm not shocked at the Mavs winning at all, I said that this game is a trap as the line should of been a lot bigger then the +10.5, clearly Vegas knew something and wouldn't move the line. I always see people fall for this when a big star doesn't play and more times then not that team plays well and covers or in this case wins the game. The Mavs have now beaten the Lakers and Bucks on their home courts which is interesting as most of us have the Bucks and Lakers in the NBA Championship finals. I really thought the best underdog was the Grizzlies but I took them to cover to be safe but it was a hard fought win by them in the end and I think they are a team to watch out for when playing at home.

Good call mate, I thought that this is a easy for the Bucks to win because obviously their number one player is out. So I don't know how in the hell did Dallas Mavericks escape this one and crushed the dreams of Milwaukee Bucks to 20-0.

So I'm one of those who are shock to be honest. But I will commend you for a good analysis on this one.
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December 17, 2019, 05:21:28 AM


Now the Mavericks have proven that they don't rely on one man to win, they have a system employed that makes them a better team.

now the mavericks are also hype because they beat the Bucks.
However, I would still not gonna trust them as this is just one game, maybe they just got lucky at this time so they got a win, and we know that Mavericks are very dangerous especially on the road.

I haven't check their latest record yet but I think they have a better road record compared to their home record.
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December 17, 2019, 05:08:54 AM
OMG! I am shocked too. Dallas could win against a strong Bucks without Luka.
Haha, many were shocked including us with this defeat of Bucks. As we thought that this was already a sure win for them but I guess we're all wrong this time. Kudos to Dallas for breaking the streak of Bucks.

And that's a big handicap for them even without Doncic, they've won against a powerhouse and favorable team. We thought that the streak will be shown by Friday but it's all wrong.
AFAIR it was the bucks who stopped the winning streak of the Warriors way back, now they also got stop by a Dallas Mavericks that we don't even think has a chance of winning against the best team in the NBA since Luka was out due to injury.

Now the Mavericks have proven that they don't rely on one man to win, they have a system employed that makes them a better team.
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December 17, 2019, 03:54:07 AM
I'm not shocked at the Mavs winning at all, I said that this game is a trap as the line should of been a lot bigger then the +10.5, clearly Vegas knew something and wouldn't move the line. I always see people fall for this when a big star doesn't play and more times then not that team plays well and covers or in this case wins the game. The Mavs have now beaten the Lakers and Bucks on their home courts which is interesting as most of us have the Bucks and Lakers in the NBA Championship finals. I really thought the best underdog was the Grizzlies but I took them to cover to be safe but it was a hard fought win by them in the end and I think they are a team to watch out for when playing at home.
Maybe you got a point there, Vegas is the gambling capital of the world and they might have the power to manipulate everything that includes gambling.the odds are heavily favored the Bucks and putting a bet to the Dallas team means winning a lot more. There might be something or someone behind this game. Only that's just a hypothesis I was saying though.
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December 17, 2019, 03:03:40 AM
~snip~

Mavs has a great bench that's why they handled that game. I'm not surprised if they can make the Western Conference Final this Season.

As much as I also want the Mavs to reach the WCF, but there will be a lot of challenge for them to reach that far.
Lakers and Clippers surely are a great challenge for them, while the trailing Rockets and Nuggets are both a good playoff team with a lot of experience too. Experience is a big advantage and It was proven so many times in the playoffs. Reaching the playoffs will be the first step for the Mavs, winning the conference will be the next, and the last would be winning it all.
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December 17, 2019, 02:27:24 AM
OMG! I am shocked too. Dallas could win against a strong Bucks without Luka.
Haha, many were shocked including us with this defeat of Bucks. As we thought that this was already a sure win for them but I guess we're all wrong this time. Kudos to Dallas for breaking the streak of Bucks.

And that's a big handicap for them even without Doncic, they've won against a powerhouse and favorable team. We thought that the streak will be shown by Friday but it's all wrong.
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December 17, 2019, 01:48:18 AM
I'm not shocked at the Mavs winning at all, I said that this game is a trap as the line should of been a lot bigger then the +10.5, clearly Vegas knew something and wouldn't move the line.
You are right, lots of bettors today got trap on the line, even myself loss a bit on this game because I was thinking that without Luka, Dallas would not be a good team but I was wrong, they played hard today and they answered on the challenge and even win the game on the road.

Luka should rest peacefully now, he should not worry about his team as they can handle good team even without him.
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December 17, 2019, 01:38:27 AM
I'm not shocked at the Mavs winning at all, I said that this game is a trap as the line should of been a lot bigger then the +10.5, clearly Vegas knew something and wouldn't move the line. I always see people fall for this when a big star doesn't play and more times then not that team plays well and covers or in this case wins the game. The Mavs have now beaten the Lakers and Bucks on their home courts which is interesting as most of us have the Bucks and Lakers in the NBA Championship finals. I really thought the best underdog was the Grizzlies but I took them to cover to be safe but it was a hard fought win by them in the end and I think they are a team to watch out for when playing at home.

Mavs has a great bench that's why they handled that game. I'm not surprised if they can make the Western Conference Final this Season.
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December 17, 2019, 01:21:47 AM
I'm not shocked at the Mavs winning at all, I said that this game is a trap as the line should of been a lot bigger then the +10.5, clearly Vegas knew something and wouldn't move the line. I always see people fall for this when a big star doesn't play and more times then not that team plays well and covers or in this case wins the game. The Mavs have now beaten the Lakers and Bucks on their home courts which is interesting as most of us have the Bucks and Lakers in the NBA Championship finals. I really thought the best underdog was the Grizzlies but I took them to cover to be safe but it was a hard fought win by them in the end and I think they are a team to watch out for when playing at home.
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December 17, 2019, 12:19:24 AM

Disappointment comes because the Dallas beat the Bucks, though it was just four points, a win is a win for Dallas. Now, I can say that the Bucks cannot play intensive basketball when it come to playing against a strong opponents. Wait what? Duncic less Dallas beating the Bucks with Giannis on the court?

OMG! I am shocked too. Dallas could win against a strong Bucks without Luka.
This just proved something. The Mavericks are now upgraded. It seems like their chemistry is getting better now.
Despite the 48 point double double of Giannis somebody stepped up for the Mavericks.
Porzingis and Seth Curry. What!!?? Seth?  Grin
I know he is some kind of a defensive player but thinking he would go with a 26 pointer game? Wow!!!
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December 16, 2019, 11:01:25 PM
We will see now the Mavericks playing without luka in the whole game against the streaking bucks.
Las time against the heat, they rally in the 2nd half to make it a close game, can they do the same with the Bucks here or even stop the streak.
IMO, i think they will struggle as they lost a PG and their main scorer so buck here could probably dominate the Mavericks.

I'm thinking you are right.  Think the bucks are only favored by 10, I can see this game get out of hand early and see the bucks leading by 10-15 by halftime alone.  They are the real deal, excited to see the bucks lakers game soon.  Bucks -10 should be a decent bet.  Can see a 125-100 type of game here.

For me +10 will be a decent bet for the Bucks and they can easily cover that. They are averaging +13 this season and steam rolling opponents with or without Giannis.

And with Luka out, the spread of +10 - +13.5 is very attractive.

Disappointment comes because the Dallas beat the Bucks, though it was just four points, a win is a win for Dallas. Now, I can say that the Bucks cannot play intensive basketball when it come to playing against a strong opponents. Wait what? Duncic less Dallas beating the Bucks with Giannis on the court?
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December 16, 2019, 09:21:55 PM
We will see now the Mavericks playing without luka in the whole game against the streaking bucks.
Las time against the heat, they rally in the 2nd half to make it a close game, can they do the same with the Bucks here or even stop the streak.
IMO, i think they will struggle as they lost a PG and their main scorer so buck here could probably dominate the Mavericks.

I'm thinking you are right.  Think the bucks are only favored by 10, I can see this game get out of hand early and see the bucks leading by 10-15 by halftime alone.  They are the real deal, excited to see the bucks lakers game soon.  Bucks -10 should be a decent bet.  Can see a 125-100 type of game here.

For me +10 will be a decent bet for the Bucks and they can easily cover that. They are averaging +13 this season and steam rolling opponents with or without Giannis.

And with Luka out, the spread of +10 - +13.5 is very attractive.
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