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Quote from: Indamuck on August 13, 2019, 02:31:38 PM

Quote from: darewaller on August 13, 2019, 10:31:20 AM

Kobe was never really interested in who Lakers were getting at all, Harden and Lebron has been doing that for a while now, hell Lebron actually made sure his friends that he wanted to play with got huge contracts as well and he managed to make that happen too whereas if you look at Kobe dude played with likes of Smush Parker and Kwame brown because those were the people given to him.

Even during Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom era he became good friends with those players AFTER they were traded to Lakers, he never showed any indication that he wants them to be traded to Lakers or made any moves about it. Kobe just wanted to play and beat everyone on his way, nothing else, he was a killer who didn't care about who he had in the team and who he wants to kick out, dude would have kicked half of the roster if he wanted to get rid of bad players.

Kobe threw a fit when he was drafted by the Hornets because he wanted to play Los Angeles. He DEMANDED a trade. Kobe has always been threatening the Lakers front office by demanded to be traded after the shaq years. Your making Kobe out to be someone that he wasn't

That is what I am going to say too.
Let us say he was given players which he didn't know quite well like his examples.
But he could tell which players he dont want to join in.
Just an example, what if Wade is really trying to be a Laker? Kobe would demand to not let it happen even if it would do good for the Lakers profit and another championship.
Why? Because it will threaten his position as the best player of the Lakers and might become the number 2.
That is how Kobe thinks.

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Quote from: darewaller on August 13, 2019, 10:31:20 AM

Kobe was never really interested in who Lakers were getting at all, Harden and Lebron has been doing that for a while now, hell Lebron actually made sure his friends that he wanted to play with got huge contracts as well and he managed to make that happen too whereas if you look at Kobe dude played with likes of Smush Parker and Kwame brown because those were the people given to him.

Even during Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom era he became good friends with those players AFTER they were traded to Lakers, he never showed any indication that he wants them to be traded to Lakers or made any moves about it. Kobe just wanted to play and beat everyone on his way, nothing else, he was a killer who didn't care about who he had in the team and who he wants to kick out, dude would have kicked half of the roster if he wanted to get rid of bad players.

Kobe threw a fit when he was drafted by the Hornets because he wanted to play Los Angeles. He DEMANDED a trade. Kobe has always been threatening the Lakers front office by demanded to be traded after the shaq years. Your making Kobe out to be someone that he wasn't

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Quote from: darewaller on August 13, 2019, 10:31:20 AM

Kobe was never really interested in who Lakers were getting at all, Harden and Lebron has been doing that for a while now, hell Lebron actually made sure his friends that he wanted to play with got huge contracts as well and he managed to make that happen too whereas if you look at Kobe dude played with likes of Smush Parker and Kwame brown because those were the people given to him.

Even during Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom era he became good friends with those players AFTER they were traded to Lakers, he never showed any indication that he wants them to be traded to Lakers or made any moves about it. Kobe just wanted to play and beat everyone on his way, nothing else, he was a killer who didn't care about who he had in the team and who he wants to kick out, dude would have kicked half of the roster if he wanted to get rid of bad players.

Kobe didn't use that kind of influence even he have that previledge, knowing how great he was and how he love playing with great competitions he's been challenge playing with teammates that he needs to adjust, but unlike LeBron and Harden's who needs to keep choosing for the players behind them and not ready to adjust.

He have the talents and he showcase his greatness with whoever teammates behind him that's how he love this league.

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Kobe was never really interested in who Lakers were getting at all, Harden and Lebron has been doing that for a while now, hell Lebron actually made sure his friends that he wanted to play with got huge contracts as well and he managed to make that happen too whereas if you look at Kobe dude played with likes of Smush Parker and Kwame brown because those were the people given to him.

Even during Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom era he became good friends with those players AFTER they were traded to Lakers, he never showed any indication that he wants them to be traded to Lakers or made any moves about it. Kobe just wanted to play and beat everyone on his way, nothing else, he was a killer who didn't care about who he had in the team and who he wants to kick out, dude would have kicked half of the roster if he wanted to get rid of bad players.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 12, 2019, 08:48:59 PM

Melo's agent is really trying hard to the point that they are willing to accept:

1-year contract
Minimum veteran salary
Bench player or Secondary role

But still, no teams are showing interest. On what happened to Melo during his HOUSTON days make it more worst. I think if he is able to complete the whole season with HOUSTON, he might have a chance that some teams will still show interest to him.

Something really happened there at Houston.
A recent interview of Stephen Smith in ESPN with Melo showed it.

He was asking about how Melo was let go with Houston.
It aint Chris Paul for they are close friend but someone did backstab him. He is a shooter which is a need at Houston although his defense is low.
I bet it will be Harden for he cannot answer it when asked by Smith.
They say Harden now have the power which player to choose in their roster.
Now, it may become a negative feedback to all the teams in NBA even though it may be a cause of just one player.

NBA is getting worse with all that player power to choose his team. They should just be playing with them and creating chemistry. Now, they became like owners. Same thing with Lakers when Kobe was there.

That's the power of a superstar, same with Lebron, he can even fire a coach and the management has to agree with it as they don't want their star to go with other teams. In the case or Rockets, that could be true but we can't confirm it, but it it's true, that's Melo's bad karma for also backstabbing Lin when the management want Lin to become a star of the team.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 12, 2019, 08:48:59 PM

Melo's agent is really trying hard to the point that they are willing to accept:

1-year contract
Minimum veteran salary
Bench player or Secondary role

But still, no teams are showing interest. On what happened to Melo during his HOUSTON days make it more worst. I think if he is able to complete the whole season with HOUSTON, he might have a chance that some teams will still show interest to him.

Something really happened there at Houston.
A recent interview of Stephen Smith in ESPN with Melo showed it.

He was asking about how Melo was let go with Houston.
It aint Chris Paul for they are close friend but someone did backstab him. He is a shooter which is a need at Houston although his defense is low.
I bet it will be Harden for he cannot answer it when asked by Smith.
They say Harden now have the power which player to choose in their roster.
Now, it may become a negative feedback to all the teams in NBA even though it may be a cause of just one player.

NBA is getting worse with all that player power to choose his team. They should just be playing with them and creating chemistry. Now, they became like owners. Same thing with Lakers when Kobe was there.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 12, 2019, 11:01:57 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on August 12, 2019, 08:48:59 PM

Melo's agent is really trying hard to the point that they are willing to accept:

1-year contract
Minimum veteran salary
Bench player or Secondary role

But still, no teams are showing interest. On what happened to Melo during his HOUSTON days make it more worst. I think if he is able to complete the whole season with HOUSTON, he might have a chance that some teams will still show interest to him.

He like to play but the Rockets are getting rid of him so the Rockets did better without him.
They thought Melo is taking more shots and it has destroyed their chemistry and he has become a defensive liability to the team.
Rockets are known good shooters especially in the 3 point line but with Melo having more minutes and inconsistent, that really hurts the team.

Well, this might be the perfect time for Melo to finally get shelved. Perhaps the teams are thinking that even a minimum veteran salary is a waste of money. And I think it is. Why would you go for an old man whose fading talent has been shadowed by an attitude if you you could spend that money on some young ones whose potential seems infinite? Furthermore, the problem with Melo is that he doesn't feel that his stardom has since grown faint.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 12, 2019, 08:48:59 PM

Melo's agent is really trying hard to the point that they are willing to accept:

1-year contract
Minimum veteran salary
Bench player or Secondary role

But still, no teams are showing interest. On what happened to Melo during his HOUSTON days make it more worst. I think if he is able to complete the whole season with HOUSTON, he might have a chance that some teams will still show interest to him.

He like to play but the Rockets are getting rid of him so the Rockets did better without him.
They thought Melo is taking more shots and it has destroyed their chemistry and he has become a defensive liability to the team.
Rockets are known good shooters especially in the 3 point line but with Melo having more minutes and inconsistent, that really hurts the team.

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Melo's agent is really trying hard to the point that they are willing to accept:

1-year contract
Minimum veteran salary
Bench player or Secondary role

But still, no teams are showing interest. On what happened to Melo during his HOUSTON days make it more worst. I think if he is able to complete the whole season with HOUSTON, he might have a chance that some teams will still show interest to him.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on August 12, 2019, 02:57:29 PM

Quote from: Indamuck on August 12, 2019, 09:39:46 AM

Same thing happened with Allen Iverson. He was still a good player that could contribute to a team but he was blackballed by teams because of his attitude. I think teams are steering away from Carmelo for the same reasons.

That maybe true. The "Who? Me?!" answer when he was asked if he's going to start from the bench during an interview at OKC was really the start of his downfall for me. Skill wise, I think he still tops a lot of the guys in the league. Like I said before, he's close to Lebron's ability. If he is given the same freedom to play and get his rhythm, he can deliver.

Attitude>skills.

The new talents should learn from his experience, both from his career and his situation now. I know that many teams wants to take him but after seeing that attitude he had showed, it turned them off.

No doubt that his skills is incomparable but nothing beats attitude. Skills can be learned and practiced but attitude will bring you to the top.

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Quote from: Indamuck on August 12, 2019, 09:39:46 AM

Same thing happened with Allen Iverson. He was still a good player that could contribute to a team but he was blackballed by teams because of his attitude. I think teams are steering away from Carmelo for the same reasons.

That maybe true. The "Who? Me?!" answer when he was asked if he's going to start from the bench during an interview at OKC was really the start of his downfall for me. Skill wise, I think he still tops a lot of the guys in the league. Like I said before, he's close to Lebron's ability. If he is given the same freedom to play and get his rhythm, he can deliver.

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No matter how great you are with each of your game.

But once the player started to show that kind of problem, you'll end your career. The management shall keep if there's no problem within him.

Melo is a kind of player who want importance so that he gets paid more. The problem with him is his attitude towards his teammates. I think he don't want a superstar in his team aside from him that why he cannot have chemistry towards other players.

He wants importance because he has what it takes to get paid with high salary.

But as I've said, things have changed a lot now and teams understand that there can be a better player than him if they're going to take him.

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Quote from: Indamuck on August 12, 2019, 09:39:46 AM

Same thing happened with Allen Iverson. He was still a good player that could contribute to a team but he was blackballed by teams because of his attitude. I think teams are steering away from Carmelo for the same reasons.

True.
Again, that is because of his attitude.
Rumors can easily fly away to different teams and management and this is what happened with Melo. Rumors from players passed on to different teams. They are like Hollywood there with a lot of paparazzi.

Now, he had a lot of interviews and being a star because of all this questions.
One problem though, who believes him?

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Quote from: justdimin on August 11, 2019, 03:45:08 PM

It doesn't have to be number one player in any team, we are talking about the top 20 scorer of leagues history not making a 9-10 man rotation. Just like Melo once said its beyond basketball for sure, I mean its more about not liking his character more than his play.

Think about it there are 30 teams in the NBA right now and there are 10 players on each team that gets some minutes (except in playoffs which tightens to 7-8 man team) that makes 300 players right now, in the sense of talent do you really think there is 300 players better than Melo in the league right now?

He may not be top 10 or even top 50 for all I care but he is definitely a top 300 without a question. Hence I think this is more about not liking him for who he is and not because of his talents.

Same thing happened with Allen Iverson. He was still a good player that could contribute to a team but he was blackballed by teams because of his attitude. I think teams are steering away from Carmelo for the same reasons.

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Quote from: redsun114 on August 11, 2019, 03:55:01 AM

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No matter how great you are with each of your game.

But once the player started to show that kind of problem, you'll end your career. The management shall keep if there's no problem within him.

Melo is a kind of player who want importance so that he gets paid more. The problem with him is his attitude towards his teammates. I think he don't want a superstar in his team aside from him that why he cannot have chemistry towards other players.

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Quote from: boyptc on August 12, 2019, 08:35:59 AM

Quote from: Reid on August 11, 2019, 07:57:34 PM

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He just can't realize that. He have to humble himself if he wants to get in to a good team. He needs to adjust himself, it's sort of pride if he can't accept to himself that he had changed a lot for the past few years.

If he'll start showing humility to his teammates and the team itself, I think he'll be considered by teams who really are interested getting him.

That is the key. Humbleness. Being humble with synonyms of being respectful and submissive. If he could do that, then there wont be any problem for the team.

He's the one that can answer if he's ever questioning these teams doesn't give him a chance to lead them.

We will see if he'll take notice of his situation.

Attitude is not the main thing, attitude only works if you are not good and the management feels you will improve because you have a good attitude, but actually what they will look first is the players stats, that's it, if a player has a poor stats, he has a less chance to get sign and the team would choose a talented player even without a very nice attitude as skills could help the team to win championship and attitude can be polish.

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Quote from: Reid on August 11, 2019, 07:57:34 PM

Quote from: boyptc on August 10, 2019, 05:22:44 PM

He just can't realize that. He have to humble himself if he wants to get in to a good team. He needs to adjust himself, it's sort of pride if he can't accept to himself that he had changed a lot for the past few years.

If he'll start showing humility to his teammates and the team itself, I think he'll be considered by teams who really are interested getting him.

That is the key. Humbleness. Being humble with synonyms of being respectful and submissive. If he could do that, then there wont be any problem for the team.

He's the one that can answer if he's ever questioning these teams doesn't give him a chance to lead them.

We will see if he'll take notice of his situation.

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No matter how great you are with each of your game.

But once the player started to show that kind of problem, you'll end your career. The management shall keep if there's no problem within him.

Problem with adjustment needs to be solve if he's still chasing his spot inside, showing that he can be a role player and not to ask special treatment just because he was then a big star from this league, Melo wanted to ends up his career playing and showcasing his talents so giving him another shot or space from any teams can make that happen.

He don't want to end up his career that way. He just wants to step up on what he used to have before.

He can't accept that the time has changed and he's not getting any younger anymore.

Of course any basketball players doesn't want to end their career in a bad note. However, Melo is sliding on that path as days go along. I don't know who is his agent, but pretty sure that he is doing his best to at least see Melo Anthony dance again in NBA even as second stringers, 5-10 minutes per game.

Melo is a star so we can expect that he has a good agent and we can expect that the problem is not the agent but he himself, his market now is really low in the NBA and he should live with with current value now.

Teams won't get any good contribution from Melo if he only has to play 5 to 10 minutes, and he is no attraction anymore since he has not led his team to win a championship.

The guy takes a lot of shots that's why he's a good scorer. You can't expect any team now to allow that anymore since he certainly won't be the focal point in offense for any team that will be willing to gamble on him. He might as well get a contract to play in china or the euroleagues. His is a sad story of talent being wasted because of ego.

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No matter how great you are with each of your game.

But once the player started to show that kind of problem, you'll end your career. The management shall keep if there's no problem within him.

Problem with adjustment needs to be solve if he's still chasing his spot inside, showing that he can be a role player and not to ask special treatment just because he was then a big star from this league, Melo wanted to ends up his career playing and showcasing his talents so giving him another shot or space from any teams can make that happen.

He don't want to end up his career that way. He just wants to step up on what he used to have before.

He can't accept that the time has changed and he's not getting any younger anymore.

Of course any basketball players doesn't want to end their career in a bad note. However, Melo is sliding on that path as days go along. I don't know who is his agent, but pretty sure that he is doing his best to at least see Melo Anthony dance again in NBA even as second stringers, 5-10 minutes per game.

Melo is a star so we can expect that he has a good agent and we can expect that the problem is not the agent but he himself, his market now is really low in the NBA and he should live with with current value now.

Teams won't get any good contribution from Melo if he only has to play 5 to 10 minutes, and he is no attraction anymore since he has not led his team to win a championship.

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Quote from: redsun114 on August 11, 2019, 03:55:01 AM

-snip-

No matter how great you are with each of your game.

But once the player started to show that kind of problem, you'll end your career. The management shall keep if there's no problem within him.

Problem with adjustment needs to be solve if he's still chasing his spot inside, showing that he can be a role player and not to ask special treatment just because he was then a big star from this league, Melo wanted to ends up his career playing and showcasing his talents so giving him another shot or space from any teams can make that happen.

He don't want to end up his career that way. He just wants to step up on what he used to have before.

He can't accept that the time has changed and he's not getting any younger anymore.

Of course any basketball players doesn't want to end their career in a bad note. However, Melo is sliding on that path as days go along. I don't know who is his agent, but pretty sure that he is doing his best to at least see Melo Anthony dance again in NBA even as second stringers, 5-10 minutes per game.

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