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November 08, 2019, 09:55:37 AM
I have some new opinions here.
Do some of you think that it is Kawhi who demanded this kind of strategy?

I dont know why I have thought of that but I think because it was done for him by the Raptors so he got spoiled and want the same thing in Clippers.
Tell me, if I am crazy or something?  Grin

Just like what Kawhi said in his interview, he is not a doctor and he will keep doing what is best for him to be healthy and play basketball games.

It is not like he is the only one doing load management. It is just getting blown now because he is in the spotlight.

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November 08, 2019, 08:54:05 AM
Some funny images I saw from that tweet shared by Reid  Grin
Sorry I cut the image to minimize some kb's worth for the forum.
I never saw that, maybe you went deeper in twitter. Grin
It's one of the top comments.


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I have some new opinions here.
Do some of you think that it is Kawhi who demanded this kind of strategy?

I don't know why I have thought of that but I think because it was done for him by the Raptors so he got spoiled and want the same thing in Clippers.
Tell me, if I am crazy or something?  Grin
I don't know about being spoiled but he probably requested to have some rest in between games and Doc agreed.
If it worked before then it's worth trying it again. I mean, if there is an effective way to avoid or minimize injuries then use it.
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November 08, 2019, 08:41:17 AM
Some funny images I saw from that tweet shared by Reid  Grin
Sorry I cut the image to minimize some kb's worth for the forum.
I never saw that, maybe you went deeper in twitter. Grin

Clippers are plying it smart imo. They are not risking their best players health while giving chance to others in their team to step up. It's working for them so far and this strategy will benefit them come playoff time.

I have some new opinions here.
Do some of you think that it is Kawhi who demanded this kind of strategy?

I dont know why I have thought of that but I think because it was done for him by the Raptors so he got spoiled and want the same thing in Clippers.
Tell me, if I am crazy or something?  Grin
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November 08, 2019, 07:34:38 AM
$50,000 is quite a huge fine for a single player compared to the 2012 Spurs $25,000 fine for resting Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli in a single game.

IMO, they are just using the word " load management" but in reality, there's more serious behind their action, maybe part of the tactics.

Using load management to conceal the true intentions of resting the player to avoid being injured. While the other teams are risking all their key players to play all 82 games disregarding the possibility of becoming injured. Do you call it tactics? I dont think so. It's close to cheating, not only with the NBA but also to the fans.
Injury is part of the game, deal with it. Durability is an important attribute.
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November 08, 2019, 06:41:34 AM
https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/sixers_ben_simmons_out_at_least_one_game_with_sprained_shoulder/s1_12680_30477971

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The Philadelphia 76ers received some pretty good news on Thursday, one day after All-Star Ben Simmons exited early against the Utah Jazz with a shoulder injury.

It doesn’t seem to be too serious. Simmons will miss Friday’s outing against the Denver Nuggets with a sprained AC joint in his right shoulder.

Good thing the injury wasn't so serious, he will be out tomorrow but will play on their next game.
What do we think about their game tomorrow, do 76ers has a chance to win against the Nuggets on the road without Simmons?

He was lucky to got out with not so serious injury. Injury comes to those players with talents because they exceed human capabilities and their body can't coup up to this talent.
No, I don't believe on that, everyone are at risk of getting injured as they are competing at a high level.
There's a lot of players in the NBA that are not contributing well but are still injured, it can happen during the game and even in practice, just take a look of what happen to Cousins here, he was injured during the practice.

https://www.nba.com/article/2019/08/15/report-demarcus-cousins-suffers-possible-knee-injury
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November 08, 2019, 06:30:44 AM
https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/sixers_ben_simmons_out_at_least_one_game_with_sprained_shoulder/s1_12680_30477971

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The Philadelphia 76ers received some pretty good news on Thursday, one day after All-Star Ben Simmons exited early against the Utah Jazz with a shoulder injury.

It doesn’t seem to be too serious. Simmons will miss Friday’s outing against the Denver Nuggets with a sprained AC joint in his right shoulder.

Good thing the injury wasn't so serious, he will be out tomorrow but will play on their next game.
What do we think about their game tomorrow, do 76ers has a chance to win against the Nuggets on the road without Simmons?

He was lucky to got out with not so serious injury. Injury comes to those players with talents because they exceed human capabilities and their body can't coup up to this talent.
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November 08, 2019, 05:35:57 AM
https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/sixers_ben_simmons_out_at_least_one_game_with_sprained_shoulder/s1_12680_30477971

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The Philadelphia 76ers received some pretty good news on Thursday, one day after All-Star Ben Simmons exited early against the Utah Jazz with a shoulder injury.

It doesn’t seem to be too serious. Simmons will miss Friday’s outing against the Denver Nuggets with a sprained AC joint in his right shoulder.

Good thing the injury wasn't so serious, he will be out tomorrow but will play on their next game.
What do we think about their game tomorrow, do 76ers has a chance to win against the Nuggets on the road without Simmons?
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November 08, 2019, 04:41:20 AM
Clippers are plying it smart imo. They are not risking their best players health while giving chance to others in their team to step up. It's working for them so far and this strategy will benefit them come playoff time.
LoL, yeah thanks to that I almost lose my hope upon them,  like on Miami Heat. I'm not too much fan nor a hater, I just don't like the team in this time.
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November 08, 2019, 04:25:11 AM
$50,000 is quite a huge fine for a single player compared to the 2012 Spurs $25,000 fine for resting Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli in a single game.
So this means this kind of offense is just a light offense based on the fines, let's forget about it, they will keep resting if they want because they can manage to pay the fine, Leonard is worth a million dollars and their chances to be the NBA finals again is more than a million dollars worth.
IMO, they are just using the word " load management" but in reality, there's more serious behind their action, maybe part of the tactics.
Even they have a player that worth a million dollars but  without the fans interest for sure they will ends up nothing. We don't know if until when
this coaching staff will consider the same thing and keeps on paying the fine. It will be fans who can force the management to stop this and bring
the excitement inside the Clippers team. Management will not let the fans to leave them as money will turned to nothing if that will happen.
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November 08, 2019, 04:20:10 AM
Some funny images I saw from that tweet shared by Reid  Grin

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Clippers are plying it smart imo. They are not risking their best players health while giving chance to others in their team to step up. It's working for them so far and this strategy will benefit them come playoff time.
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November 08, 2019, 04:04:11 AM
$50,000 is quite a huge fine for a single player compared to the 2012 Spurs $25,000 fine for resting Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli in a single game.
So this means this kind of offense is just a light offense based on the fines, let's forget about it, they will keep resting if they want because they can manage to pay the fine, Leonard is worth a million dollars and their chances to be the NBA finals again is more than a million dollars worth.
IMO, they are just using the word " load management" but in reality, there's more serious behind their action, maybe part of the tactics.
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November 08, 2019, 03:54:18 AM
So the NBA fines Clippers $50,000.
Yeah, thanks for their inconsistency.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1192592936871088130

At the first place both management and the medical team should be talking about this or are they really not telling the truth about the Kawhi health condition?
Are they really preserving him or is he really injured?
They will keep on making this kind of fines if they wont work together. Instead of doing great strategies, they end up losing trust with their fans.  Grin



$50,000? That's a small fine, they impose that fined to the clippers organization and that organization is so big that is worth billions, I don't think that fine will ever touch and stop them, they might still do the same strategy of preserving Leonard if the fines will not increase.

Well yeah that's just a piece of cake compared to what the whole organization is earning. But, the NBA just wanted to make a statement by putting a fine as they dont want tolerate such actions. This is what I was talking about from my past post in this thread about the unfair load management by the Clippers.
$50,000 is quite a huge fine for a single player compared to the 2012 Spurs $25,000 fine for resting Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli in a single game.
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November 08, 2019, 02:04:03 AM
So the NBA fines Clippers $50,000.
Yeah, thanks for their inconsistency.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1192592936871088130

At the first place both management and the medical team should be talking about this or are they really not telling the truth about the Kawhi health condition?
Are they really preserving him or is he really injured?
They will keep on making this kind of fines if they wont work together. Instead of doing great strategies, they end up losing trust with their fans.  Grin


Yeah, that's a small fine for them but the issue is what matters here.

I'm also confused on what's the true statement and situation of Kawhi.  Huh
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November 08, 2019, 01:29:16 AM
So the NBA fines Clippers $50,000.
Yeah, thanks for their inconsistency.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1192592936871088130

At the first place both management and the medical team should be talking about this or are they really not telling the truth about the Kawhi health condition?
Are they really preserving him or is he really injured?
They will keep on making this kind of fines if they wont work together. Instead of doing great strategies, they end up losing trust with their fans.  Grin



$50,000? That's a small fine, they impose that fined to the clippers organization and that organization is so big that is worth billions, I don't think that fine will ever touch and stop them, they might still do the same strategy of preserving Leonard if the fines will not increase.
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November 08, 2019, 12:38:20 AM
So the NBA fines Clippers $50,000.
Yeah, thanks for their inconsistency.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1192592936871088130

At the first place both management and the medical team should be talking about this or are they really not telling the truth about the Kawhi health condition?
Are they really preserving him or is he really injured?
They will keep on making this kind of fines if they wont work together. Instead of doing great strategies, they end up losing trust with their fans.  Grin

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November 08, 2019, 12:26:35 AM
Well, if Lakers would have a space for him but what I've heard too that they are full because one news before that there's son of a legend but he can't make it to the roster because they were full already. But who knows if Lakers wants to make this happen? they can turn in to the events and be favorable for their roster and change some contract without violating it. As I've said, both teams will be good for him but yeah looks like the Mavs needs some veteran.
It will make the Lakers even more unbeatable, he might not become a starter but he will be playing as the 2nd unit and that's a hell of a 2nd unit they have. he will play with Howard and Rondo, both are superstar at their prime and its a privilege for him because the Lakers might end up as a champion this season, I think so....
We've seen super teams last season and I don't think that will make the Lakers an unbeatable team. They have the superstars but it doesn't mean that they can't be beaten by any other team. The league is still unpredictable and there are teams that are surprisingly beating the known teams with their unfavorable roster for the fans. But this kind of buff to their roster is going to make them higher chance of getting in to the playoffs.
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November 08, 2019, 12:17:32 AM
Yeah, he is a good addition for the team and we will see that if they really are buffing their roster through Iggy. But with whatever team he goes, Mavs or Lakers. I think the team will highly benefit from him.
Lakers are already doing good now, they have a lot of veterans to contribute, I think its Mavs that needs his experience more as its the young guns that are currently carrying the team now, with him healthy, Dallas has a good shot once they are in the playoffs.
Well, if Lakers would have a space for him but what I've heard too that they are full because one news before that there's son of a legend but he can't make it to the roster because they were full already. But who knows if Lakers wants to make this happen? they can turn in to the events and be favorable for their roster and change some contract without violating it. As I've said, both teams will be good for him but yeah looks like the Mavs needs some veteran.
It will make the Lakers even more unbeatable, he might not become a starter but he will be playing as the 2nd unit and that's a hell of a 2nd unit they have. he will play with Howard and Rondo, both are superstar at their prime and its a privilege for him because the Lakers might end up as a champion this season, I think so....
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November 07, 2019, 11:40:20 PM
Yeah, he is a good addition for the team and we will see that if they really are buffing their roster through Iggy. But with whatever team he goes, Mavs or Lakers. I think the team will highly benefit from him.
Lakers are already doing good now, they have a lot of veterans to contribute, I think its Mavs that needs his experience more as its the young guns that are currently carrying the team now, with him healthy, Dallas has a good shot once they are in the playoffs.
Well, if Lakers would have a space for him but what I've heard too that they are full because one news before that there's son of a legend but he can't make it to the roster because they were full already. But who knows if Lakers wants to make this happen? they can turn in to the events and be favorable for their roster and change some contract without violating it. As I've said, both teams will be good for him but yeah looks like the Mavs needs some veteran.
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November 07, 2019, 10:14:04 PM
Los Angeles Clippers will face Portland Trail Blazers tonight, well last night Clippers lost their game against Milwaukee Bucks but Leonard Khawi doesn't play and he is a player that can make the difference in this game and tonight he will back to the game and play, I will try to bet for LA Clippers to win this game.

A couple of minus spread is good in favor of Los Angeles Clippers, it will boost the winnings.
It's just surprising how Harell step up to the game during Leonard's absence. Putting up big numbers against the top team in the East. It seems that Clippers force is invincible comes the playoffs, and they're still not intact yet since PG is still injured but will expect to be back next week I guess.
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November 07, 2019, 08:33:06 PM
Igoudala might become a starter too if he will be going to Dallas.
At his age, I don't think so, and we all know he had some injuries back when he was still playing with the warriors, so I don't think he will be force to play 30 minutes per night, IMO, he will be more a contributor if he will just be a bench player and will come out and play in tough situations.
And he's no longer that young to play as a starter aside from those previous injuries his age might affect his agility, he can serve as bench player who can give some good rest to one of those stars that needs to rest, we know iggy's quality he can add helps when it's needed him to perform. Hopefully we will see him playing again with a healthy conditions.
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