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January 10, 2024, 05:17:36 AM
With the trade deadline less than a month away now the talk is starting to heat up. I’m seeing a lot of reports that the Lakers have started discussions with the Cavaliers about trading for Donovan Mitchell. It seems like we’re likely to see Mitchell or Zach LaVine in a Lakers uniform in a few weeks.
Mitchell could be a good fit for the Lakers if they are looking for a dynamic guard. However, I don't see that Cavaliers are gonna let their star player that gave the team some toughness, so most likely it will be Zach Lavine that will be traded with the Lakers as the latter have showed interest on not playing with the Bulls.
I believe that both are interesting options that could be traded to the Lakers, but I imagine that Donovan Mitchell would be an excellent piece that would fit within the Los Angeles Lakers, he could easily play as PG or SG in LAL, although Zach LaVine is a another interesting player.
But regarding the possibilities, I believe it is easier for Lavine to be traded than Mitchell, I have no doubt that the Cavs will want a high price for their star player.

Regarding this possible negotiation... Which player(Lakers) could be traded? D'Angelo Russell? Reaves? Hachimura? others?

Is not Russell the one to trade? I think it will be better if they trade him instead of the other players.
But of course, do let me know if I am wrong. The age difference is not a lot between them, right? They are basically almost the same age as each other.

So that should not be something to take into consideration in my opinion. The quality is the only thing everyone is probably going to look for. And of course, every team is going to try to get/keep the best players for themselves. And this is definitely an interesting situation.
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January 10, 2024, 03:18:59 AM
With the trade deadline less than a month away now the talk is starting to heat up. I’m seeing a lot of reports that the Lakers have started discussions with the Cavaliers about trading for Donovan Mitchell. It seems like we’re likely to see Mitchell or Zach LaVine in a Lakers uniform in a few weeks.
Mitchell could be a good fit for the Lakers if they are looking for a dynamic guard. However, I don't see that Cavaliers are gonna let their star player that gave the team some toughness, so most likely it will be Zach Lavine that will be traded with the Lakers as the latter have showed interest on not playing with the Bulls.
I believe that both are interesting options that could be traded to the Lakers, but I imagine that Donovan Mitchell would be an excellent piece that would fit within the Los Angeles Lakers, he could easily play as PG or SG in LAL, although Zach LaVine is a another interesting player.
But regarding the possibilities, I believe it is easier for Lavine to be traded than Mitchell, I have no doubt that the Cavs will want a high price for their star player.

Regarding this possible negotiation... Which player(Lakers) could be traded? D'Angelo Russell? Reaves? Hachimura? others?
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January 10, 2024, 01:02:58 AM
Yes, that's what the reports said.
https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1744554272199791089?s=20

That's goodbye for the Memphis Grizzlies playoff chance.
I won't blame the NBA for sitting him that long which could be the culprit for this injury. It's Ja's fault too because he can still play on his own if he wants to but if he did just rest for that long suspension then I guess this will happen. I think this will be the worst injury Ja Morant will have in his career. Also, this will be the worst season for the Grizzlies after they received Ja from the draft pick.

Yep, this is pretty bad news for both Morant and the Grizzlies. As far as I know, it can take 6 months or even a year to fully recover from this type of injury. So, now the Grizzlies have no chance to make the playoffs not only this regular season but most likely next season.
As for the suspension, I don't think that's the reason why Morant got such an injury. He was in good shape in the first games after his return, which means that he was not resting but most likely practicing during the suspension.
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January 10, 2024, 12:04:21 AM
With the trade deadline less than a month away now the talk is starting to heat up. I’m seeing a lot of reports that the Lakers have started discussions with the Cavaliers about trading for Donovan Mitchell. It seems like we’re likely to see Mitchell or Zach LaVine in a Lakers uniform in a few weeks.
Mitchell could be a good fit for the Lakers if they are looking for a dynamic guard. However, I don't see that Cavaliers are gonna let their star player that gave the team some toughness, so most likely it will be Zach Lavine that will be traded with the Lakers as the latter have showed interest on not playing with the Bulls.
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January 09, 2024, 10:49:34 PM
With the trade deadline less than a month away now the talk is starting to heat up. I’m seeing a lot of reports that the Lakers have started discussions with the Cavaliers about trading for Donovan Mitchell. It seems like we’re likely to see Mitchell or Zach LaVine in a Lakers uniform in a few weeks.
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January 09, 2024, 07:53:50 PM
That's sad, the shoulder injury could affect his shooting and since he is a very aggressive player, he could be prone to injury. I hope the injury isn't that bad though, but it's a season ending injury. I can't believe we will lose another entertaining star this season, now the Memphis are done.

The news about the injury.
Grizzlies star Ja Morant to undergo season-ending shoulder surgery after tearing labrum at practice

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Ja Morant’s season is over.

Morant sustained a torn labrum in his right shoulder and is set to undergo season-ending surgery in the coming days, the Memphis Grizzlies announced on Monday night. Morant sustained the injury in a training session on Saturday, the team said, and an MRI confirmed the injury on Monday.
This is a possibility, I have been researching this type of injury and depending on the situation it could be more serious than you imagine... the subluxation could affect the player's movement, ball handling and his shot as well (mentioned by @xLays just above), and not to mention that, unfortunately, the shoulder won't be like it used to be (depending on the severity of the injury), as it won't be 100% like it was before.
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January 09, 2024, 07:38:22 PM
They’re saying Ja Morant is out for the season with his injury now. Ouch. The dangers of making a star athlete sit idle for so long… It’s quite possible he’ll never be the same after this and it’s very likely the result of his suspension. Not the greatest look for the NBA.
Yes, that's what the reports said.
https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1744554272199791089?s=20

That's goodbye for the Memphis Grizzlies playoff chance.
I won't blame the NBA for sitting him that long which could be the culprit for this injury. It's Ja's fault too because he can still play on his own if he wants to but if he did just rest for that long suspension then I guess this will happen. I think this will be the worst injury Ja Morant will have in his career. Also, this will be the worst season for the Grizzlies after they received Ja from the draft pick.

Some Pistons fans are saying they are burning Cade Cunningham while they keep on losing at every game. That's after he went out with what looks like a knee injury against their opponent the Denver Nuggets on Sunday. He will be re-evaluated in 10 days but according to reports it's not that serious or it's not like a season-end injury. Well, he must be exhausted at shouldering everything for the Pistons. Obviously, that dude needs some help and he is not getting it from his teammates.
I bet the Pistons will pile up more losses again, especially without him.
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January 09, 2024, 05:51:52 PM
They’re saying Ja Morant is out for the season with his injury now. Ouch. The dangers of making a star athlete sit idle for so long… It’s quite possible he’ll never be the same after this and it’s very likely the result of his suspension. Not the greatest look for the NBA.

Although Memphis Grizzlies is currently at the bottom of the NBA standing, it's not that the absence of Ja Morant will have a big impact on them the whole season. Last season, if you guys remember, the Grizzlies were even better when Morant was out or should I say, their win-loss percentage with or without Morant on the floor is just balanced.

With Morant's long suspension and absence from several Grizzlies' games, their players are now used to playing without Morant. Though there is no doubt that Morant is the main guy in the Grizzlies, his absence can be covered by some of their good role players like Desmond Bane, Jaren Jackson, and Marcus Smart.

Feel bad for what happened to Morant in his career. Aside from his problematic behavior and sometimes exercising his bragging rights, he's now facing a bad injury or maybe worse, as that shoulder injury might likely change his usual athletic playing style.

Memphis is hosed, they stunk this year without ja.  Desmond bane is a good Robin he isn't a batman.  And jarren Jackson is a nice 3rd piece.  They gonna miss the playoffs without ja and Steven adams.  Unless they make some sort of trade their season is over.  Ja unfortunately did this to himself being young and dumb.
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January 09, 2024, 03:51:33 PM
They’re saying Ja Morant is out for the season with his injury now. Ouch. The dangers of making a star athlete sit idle for so long… It’s quite possible he’ll never be the same after this and it’s very likely the result of his suspension. Not the greatest look for the NBA.
What bad news, Steve Adams was also injured and now Ja Morant was also injured, what a bad time for the Grizzlies, anyway, I hope they make a good recovery and return as soon as possible.

Talking about injuries, was the hamstring injury that Tyrese Haliburton suffered was something serious? Any update?
That's sad, the shoulder injury could affect his shooting and since he is a very aggressive player, he could be prone to injury. I hope the injury isn't that bad though, but it's a season ending injury. I can't believe we will lose another entertaining star this season, now the Memphis are done.

The news about the injury.
Grizzlies star Ja Morant to undergo season-ending shoulder surgery after tearing labrum at practice
To be fair, he isn't the type of player that is known for his lethal shooting, a broken hand for Herro seems like a worse deal and he came back, so I am sure that Ja would come back too, I think a knee injury or an ACL would have been much worse for him, a shoulder one doesn't feel like that terrible for him.

He is also one of the more athletic players in the league right now, a high flying super fast player, and I think he is young enough that he could continue his career like nothing happened. If he was 30 years old or more, then it could have been a problem, but he is young enough to overcome this easily. This should be the main reason why Grizzlies will suck this season, but next year they have a chance to comeback much better.

That is a good point that it wasn't a knee injury so it's not like he couldn't possibly come back and be his old high flying self.  My concern is that he is a young guy, still learning and getting better.  Being out this long will certainly have a negative effect on his skills and with his off-court habits he could get completely out of shape.  With so much of his game relying on his athleticism and that only getting worse as he ages, being out this long could be the difference between being the most athletic player in the league to being on par with everyone else, only way undersized.  I hope he has people around him making sure he's keeping in playing shape.  If he got injured after missing a couple dozen games, imagine how bad it could be when he comes back after a year.
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January 09, 2024, 02:09:44 PM
They’re saying Ja Morant is out for the season with his injury now. Ouch. The dangers of making a star athlete sit idle for so long… It’s quite possible he’ll never be the same after this and it’s very likely the result of his suspension. Not the greatest look for the NBA.
What bad news, Steve Adams was also injured and now Ja Morant was also injured, what a bad time for the Grizzlies, anyway, I hope they make a good recovery and return as soon as possible.

Talking about injuries, was the hamstring injury that Tyrese Haliburton suffered was something serious? Any update?
That's sad, the shoulder injury could affect his shooting and since he is a very aggressive player, he could be prone to injury. I hope the injury isn't that bad though, but it's a season ending injury. I can't believe we will lose another entertaining star this season, now the Memphis are done.

The news about the injury.
Grizzlies star Ja Morant to undergo season-ending shoulder surgery after tearing labrum at practice
To be fair, he isn't the type of player that is known for his lethal shooting, a broken hand for Herro seems like a worse deal and he came back, so I am sure that Ja would come back too, I think a knee injury or an ACL would have been much worse for him, a shoulder one doesn't feel like that terrible for him.

He is also one of the more athletic players in the league right now, a high flying super fast player, and I think he is young enough that he could continue his career like nothing happened. If he was 30 years old or more, then it could have been a problem, but he is young enough to overcome this easily. This should be the main reason why Grizzlies will suck this season, but next year they have a chance to comeback much better.
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January 09, 2024, 01:24:44 PM
Yes Clippers have a mega stars team but still the Clippers, until i dont see them winning something i dont trust in them, they are like a cursed team, and plus allways when you have so many stars in sometime you always start to see ego fighting between them, so i dont see them reaching any final.
Good luck with your prediction though.

For me, I think the Clippers had already figured out how to play with the right chemistry, they have the stars and are winning games now, so we can see that it's a positive development of a team that is full of superstars. Yes, they haven't reach the finals yet, but they'll try to make it one step at a time, last time they were only able to reach the WCF, it's just unfortunate that Leonard was injured that time, because if he was healthy, I'm sure they'll be the one that would play the Bucks back then and could potentially beat them.

Now is the best time for Leonard, as long as "Harden, PG, and Westbrook" are healthy, for me, they are the team to bet.

I don’t know if I’d call them the team to beat but they have been playing great lately. After a rocky start they seem to have quickly figured out how to make it work. If they can continue to improve and maybe bolster their bench a little bit, they have a shot at a deep playoff run. I think they’d still struggle against the Bucks or other teams with big superstars though.
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January 09, 2024, 01:00:59 PM
The Grizzlies are truly in a miserable condition upon knowing the medical report of Ja Morant having a shoulder injury that will sideline him for the entire season. We are hopeful that the injury does not have a career effect on the performance of Ja Morant. What I am aware of is that an ACL injury can end a career. The fate of the Grizzlies this season is blurry. They are done. They are a terrible team before the comeback of Morant, and they are again in the same condition.

Another frustrating report is the injury of Tyrese Haliburton. The official results of his MRI, which he will undergo, are being awaited. The Pacers are defeating the best teams of the league led by this multitalented point guard and a serious injury is a big blow to them.

Both injuries can lead to a change of direction of these two young stars, hopefully both of them can go back with the same instinct in playing
the game, though with the help of the newest technology they can be treated.

It's really tough for both teams they are being carried by these two young stars, the productions and the presence of both Morant and Haliburton
bring the team to another level of game play, without them both teams will struggles.
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January 09, 2024, 11:00:05 AM
Nuggets are leading my XFUN parlay with this exact prediction, let's see them win another championship this season!!
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January 09, 2024, 10:59:10 AM
Yes Clippers have a mega stars team but still the Clippers, until i dont see them winning something i dont trust in them, they are like a cursed team, and plus allways when you have so many stars in sometime you always start to see ego fighting between them, so i dont see them reaching any final.
Good luck with your prediction though.

For me, I think the Clippers had already figured out how to play with the right chemistry, they have the stars and are winning games now, so we can see that it's a positive development of a team that is full of superstars. Yes, they haven't reach the finals yet, but they'll try to make it one step at a time, last time they were only able to reach the WCF, it's just unfortunate that Leonard was injured that time, because if he was healthy, I'm sure they'll be the one that would play the Bucks back then and could potentially beat them.

Now is the best time for Leonard, as long as "Harden, PG, and Westbrook" are healthy, for me, they are the team to bet.
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January 09, 2024, 10:36:31 AM
Yes Clippers have a mega stars team but still the Clippers, until i dont see them winning something i dont trust in them, they are like a cursed team, and plus allways when you have so many stars in sometime you always start to see ego fighting between them, so i dont see them reaching any final.
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January 09, 2024, 09:54:34 AM
Heat was better even without Jimmy Buckets. Balanced first half but Heat took control in third quarter. Herro and Adebayo did the job well.
Their roster has depth and they can play together so Jimmy's absence isn't felt that much but I don't think the team is better without him. Bench players like Jovic or Highsmith can fill his position from time to time but nobody can do it consistently. Even Robinson couldn't.
Exactly, we've seen how Jimmy carry the team when it's needed and tbh he's really different when playoffs is coming. The good thing about their depth is that it's versatile and their are lot of role players they can count on plus Coach Spo is a better tactician

The Clippers on the other hand are already back to winning games again. They defeated the Phoenix Suns in a manner where you could really tell that they are a strong team. 138-111. A true show of their offensive power. If these guys can keep themselves healthy until the playoffs, there's a chance the Clippers will finally get a championship. The rotation of Coach Ty Lue is perfect, the pairing and combination make every player better and the ball is rotating better too. No one got a 30 pointer and they are more balanced.
Even Lebron commended on the way Coach Ty Lue is managing the Clippers and they really figure it out now. Will not doubt the championship thing considering they are a championship contender already in the moment but let's hope they'll get healthy especially when playoffs come because that's when shit happens on this team.
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January 09, 2024, 09:40:30 AM
It became clear that the losses in the Lakers were psychological.
Los Angeles Lakers, who lost four of their last five games, beat a team like Los Angeles Clippers by 106-103.
The Clippers were definitely the clear favorite in the match, but the Lakers won and got a surprise victory.
The Lakers will play two more games at home on Wednesday and Friday and will face Toronto on Wednesday. Toronto will be the favorite in the match. Because Toronto's away statistics are considered good. If the Lakers pass the Toronto hurdle, we can comment that the team is starting to form again.
I was surprised. They lost against weak teams and yet won against the strong Clippers. If you look at the statistics of the whole game the Lakers are also losing. Their turnovers are high at 19 while 14 only for the Clippers. They also lost at three-pointers and assists but they won the game by points in the paint. I think the in-season tournament championship just got on their head. It's time to win games again.

The Clippers on the other hand are already back to winning games again. They defeated the Phoenix Suns in a manner where you could really tell that they are a strong team. 138-111. A true show of their offensive power. If these guys can keep themselves healthy until the playoffs, there's a chance the Clippers will finally get a championship. The rotation of Coach Ty Lue is perfect, the pairing and combination make every player better and the ball is rotating better too. No one got a 30 pointer and they are more balanced.

How about the Utah Jazz? They won 2 consecutive games now. They have a healthy roster and they are trying to get back on the map. If they can manage to continue this into a streak then they might position themselves to the number 8 and steal it from either the Rockets or the Suns.

Utah has been performing very well in the last ten games. They have lost only twice in the last ten matches and will now play six matches at home. If they win all six matches, they will easily come to the seventh and eighth places.
Utah shows us the best example of team play. There is no basketball player on the Utah team that I consider to be a star, or rather I have never heard of before.
From now on, I will keep a close eye on Utah. An important team in betting games in my opinion.

So true! I didn't have any hope for Utah playing away games but lately this team is on fire no matter who they play. Last night it was the perfect example of why Utah is a top team right now and by all means , they barely played in Q3 because if they were serious in that quarter , the score would have been over 40 for them against Bucks.

Also , I must mention Suns as well because this team is way overrated right now and I think a split might be upon them.
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January 09, 2024, 09:24:51 AM
Have you noticed the Eastern Division standings? 21-15 record from 4th to 8th place hehe. The playoffs is going to be more competitive in the East this season.


Wow! That's a tie. An Eastern conference that was boring before is not very exciting already. This starts when Durant transferred to the East and the Celtics gets better, also lost of teams in the East now gets better, so I can say that we are having a balance league now. Before, during the all star weekend, usually the West Wins as they have most of the individual talents and good teams.
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January 09, 2024, 08:54:17 AM
Have you noticed the Eastern Division standings? 21-15 record from 4th to 8th place hehe. The playoffs is going to be more competitive in the East this season.

Heat was better even without Jimmy Buckets. Balanced first half but Heat took control in third quarter. Herro and Adebayo did the job well.
Their roster has depth and they can play together so Jimmy's absence isn't felt that much but I don't think the team is better without him. Bench players like Jovic or Highsmith can fill his position from time to time but nobody can do it consistently. Even Robinson couldn't.

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Jaime Jaquez Jr.'s development is going pretty good. He plays as he isn't drafted from 18th but top 8.
This is probably the result of completing college basketball before entering the NBA. The foundation is already there.
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January 09, 2024, 08:27:37 AM
The Grizzlies are truly in a miserable condition upon knowing the medical report of Ja Morant having a shoulder injury that will sideline him for the entire season. We are hopeful that the injury does not have a career effect on the performance of Ja Morant. What I am aware of is that an ACL injury can end a career. The fate of the Grizzlies this season is blurry. They are done. They are a terrible team before the comeback of Morant, and they are again in the same condition.
Even at the start of the season, they are in bad shape as Morant has been suspended and Jackson and Bane can't carry the team. But when he did come back, they won several games, close game and Morant provided the spark and we thought that they are back in business.

Another frustrating report is the injury of Tyrese Haliburton. The official results of his MRI, which he will undergo, are being awaited. The Pacers are defeating the best teams of the league led by this multitalented point guard and a serious injury is a big blow to them.
Pacers won against the Boston Celtics without Haliburton, but it could be a bad sign for them as he gets injured. Let's see the MRI, hopefully it's not that worst as we expected. Although if I'm not mistaken, Harden has this kind of injuries before but he come back after that injuries and looks fine.
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