Rumor has it that the Thunder are willing to trade Russell Westbrook to the Celtics, so as to avoid losing him in free agency. I am not sure if this is going to happen quickly, but maybe before the trade deadline after the All-Star break. With Durant's departure, I don't think OKC is just going to sit and watch their free walk away.
That was a huge mistake for the thunder if that will happen, I wonder OKC will not be fun to watch anymore, I don't think they will do that as they don't want to lose the market, that is a big lose on their part, they can still make it to the playoffs with westbrook on board. 
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Rumor has it that the Thunder are willing to trade Russell Westbrook to the Celtics, so as to avoid losing him in free agency. I am not sure if this is going to happen quickly, but maybe before the trade deadline after the All-Star break. With Durant's departure, I don't think OKC is just going to sit and watch their free walk away.
How would you rank Jordan's and Lebron's Finals Performances?
It's obvious that the bottom three would be 1996 Jordan, 2007 Lebron, and 2011 Lebron. What about the other ten which are all time great performances?
1991 Jordan
1992 Jordan
1993 Jordan
1997 Jordan
1998 Jordan
2012 Lebron
2013 Lebron
2014 Lebron
2015 Lebron
2016 Lebron
Arrange them from best to worst and try to provide some reasoning.
It's obvious that the bottom three would be 1996 Jordan, 2007 Lebron, and 2011 Lebron. What about the other ten which are all time great performances?
1991 Jordan
1992 Jordan
1993 Jordan
1997 Jordan
1998 Jordan
2012 Lebron
2013 Lebron
2014 Lebron
2015 Lebron
2016 Lebron
Arrange them from best to worst and try to provide some reasoning.
2016 LeBron (GOAT comeback hands down)
2013 LeBron (Another GOAT come back agianst a GOAT team in the spurs..)
2015 LeBron (GOAT level effort with Delly as his second option Arguably should have won MVP)
1998 Jordan
Then I don't Know.
How would you rank Jordan's and Lebron's Finals Performances?
It's obvious that the bottom three would be 1996 Jordan, 2007 Lebron, and 2011 Lebron. What about the other ten which are all time great performances?
1991 Jordan
1992 Jordan
1993 Jordan
1997 Jordan
1998 Jordan
2012 Lebron
2013 Lebron
2014 Lebron
2015 Lebron
2016 Lebron
Arrange them from best to worst and try to provide some reasoning.
It's obvious that the bottom three would be 1996 Jordan, 2007 Lebron, and 2011 Lebron. What about the other ten which are all time great performances?
1991 Jordan
1992 Jordan
1993 Jordan
1997 Jordan
1998 Jordan
2012 Lebron
2013 Lebron
2014 Lebron
2015 Lebron
2016 Lebron
Arrange them from best to worst and try to provide some reasoning.
Rip Hamilton wants to go back to NBA, Stephen Jackson wants to go back, Richard Jefferson cancelled his retirement, Ray Allen tries to go back, Garnett is still playing, Nowitzki extended 2 more years. I guess money is so sweet. 
With regards to Super Teams in Jordan Era, players at that time are competitors as you can see with the way they foul each other. If you've seen the games in the 90s you know that those are not cheap fouls unlike today. Scottie and MJ has been team mates for such a long time and the movements of players changing teams at that time are less. There are less stars changing teams at that time.
Back in the day so called superstars didn't wanna team up with another superstar, they wanted to beat them.
Rules changed so much that I could easily say today's players are simply soft(er).
hand-checking, no def 3 seconds, no defensive perimeter, etc.
players like Irving would start crying after 5min if he was guarded by Starks or Dumars.
General public, TV companies, and owners wanted more excitement, speed up the game, etc so they changed the rules.
That was back in the day however this is the new era and people love to see all the superstars gather in the same team and beat all the small fish down and meet another team full of superstar in the final game. That would be the most crazy match to be anticipated if you are really fond in basketball
NBA had super teams all the time, it's not new. I don't agree with Adam Silver. There were Celtics and Lakers in 60's to 80's, Bulls in 90's, Celtics in 2008, Heat in 2010's and Warriors in 2015. You can't stop this at any time. Enough with the discussions already.
It is apparent in NBA that superstars are given special treatment for the interest of the association and it has been happening that even the era of michael jordan, now its lebron james who is the darling of NBA, even if how good the warriors are but when the cavaliers are favored they can win easy.
LOL i thought all has been move on with the last nba finals. C'mon im a GSW fan but lets just accept the result. Theres still a lot of season to play and we have KD in our side next season, move on. With regards to Super Teams in Jordan Era, players at that time are competitors as you can see with the way they foul each other. If you've seen the games in the 90s you know that those are not cheap fouls unlike today. Scottie and MJ has been team mates for such a long time and the movements of players changing teams at that time are less. There are less stars changing teams at that time.
Back in the day so called superstars didn't wanna team up with another superstar, they wanted to beat them.
Rules changed so much that I could easily say today's players are simply soft(er).
hand-checking, no def 3 seconds, no defensive perimeter, etc.
players like Irving would start crying after 5min if he was guarded by Starks or Dumars.
General public, TV companies, and owners wanted more excitement, speed up the game, etc so they changed the rules.
If Rodman can join the Bulls, why can't Durant join the Warriors?
The Pistons and Bulls were practically blood rivals, but the Bulls traded for him because he filled a NEED...
Not to mention the Bulls had three 20 point scorers on the perimeter( Averaged 20/6/5 in 94 with the Clips)
The Pistons and Bulls were practically blood rivals, but the Bulls traded for him because he filled a NEED...
Not to mention the Bulls had three 20 point scorers on the perimeter( Averaged 20/6/5 in 94 with the Clips)
MJ was ruined by Rodman and the Pistons many times. Yet he signed off on the trade and welcome the rebounding champ with open arms.
MJ new needed more help after choking the year before. 96 Finals proved that.
Not the same situation as Durant.
Jesus, these 2 guys obviously have zero clue about 90s NBA
1) Rodman played for the Spurs for 2 seasons before joining the Bulls
2) Rodman played a small role on the Pistons when the Pistons were beating MJ and the Bulls (and winning championships) in late 80s
They had Thomas, Dumars, and Laimbeer! Hell, you could even argue that V.Johnson had a bigger role.
Thinking that MJ CHOKED?? against the Magic in 1995 is purely ridiculous.
AND THINKING MJ couldn't win (a) championship without Rodman is a joke as well.
KD in the same sentence... please educate yourself
If Rodman can join the Bulls, why can't Durant join the Warriors?
The Pistons and Bulls were practically blood rivals, but the Bulls traded for him because he filled a NEED...
Not to mention the Bulls had three 20 point scorers on the perimeter( Averaged 20/6/5 in 94 with the Clips)
The Pistons and Bulls were practically blood rivals, but the Bulls traded for him because he filled a NEED...
Not to mention the Bulls had three 20 point scorers on the perimeter( Averaged 20/6/5 in 94 with the Clips)
MJ was ruined by Rodman and the Pistons many times. Yet he signed off on the trade and welcome the rebounding champ with open arms.
MJ new needed more help after choking the year before. 96 Finals proved that.
Not the same situation as Durant.
Jesus, these 2 guys obviously have zero clue about 90s NBA
1) Rodman played for the Spurs for 2 seasons before joining the Bulls
2) Rodman played a small role on the Pistons when the Pistons were beating MJ and the Bulls (and winning championships) in late 80s
They had Thomas, Dumars, and Laimbeer! Hell, you could even argue that V.Johnson had a bigger role.
Thinking that MJ CHOKED?? against the Magic in 1995 is purely ridiculous.
AND THINKING MJ couldn't win (a) championship without Rodman is a joke as well.
KD in the same sentence... please educate yourself
Adam Silver commented on the matter of KD transferring to the Warriors saying it puts too much imbalance in the league so they might have some CBA changes regarding super teams.
And yeah now they want a more balance lol. Silver expressed concern at the signing of KD which creates another super team.
"I don't think having two super teams is good for the league," he said. "For me, part of it is designing a collective bargaining agreement that encourages the distribution of great players throughout the league.
But on the other hand, I see those super teams will now be more pressured since most of the fans have lots of expectation from them.
this is the saddest truth NBA is already for entertainment and all because of money now, I think if the NBA association is in really care they should not allowed super team to be build at the beginning. well I hope it is not late for this.
It is apparent in NBA that superstars are given special treatment for the interest of the association and it has been happening that even the era of michael jordan, now its lebron james who is the darling of NBA, even if how good the warriors are but when the cavaliers are favored they can win easy.
Come on mate and just move on. NBA finals was ended for more weeks now.
Refs don't control the hot hands of Irving and James. So please just move on and accept the defeat. CAVS really performed well and everybody sees that even for some GSW fans. That is not an easy win for them so learn to appreciate the CAVS effort to win the championship.
And how come you said that it has happening even in 90's? So you think MJ is not that great because all in all he was just favored by the association? lol.
Let's stop with the rigged game. Even if they rig it in favor of Cavs the Warriors had so many chances in that last few minutes of that game. They just couldn't hit those threes so I wouldn't call it rigged. The last 2 minutes is still a tied game and the misses of Warriors 3 pointers caused them the Finals.
With regards to Super Teams in Jordan Era, players at that time are competitors as you can see with the way they foul each other. If you've seen the games in the 90s you know that those are not cheap fouls unlike today. Scottie and MJ has been team mates for such a long time and the movements of players changing teams at that time are less. There are less stars changing teams at that time.
With regards to Super Teams in Jordan Era, players at that time are competitors as you can see with the way they foul each other. If you've seen the games in the 90s you know that those are not cheap fouls unlike today. Scottie and MJ has been team mates for such a long time and the movements of players changing teams at that time are less. There are less stars changing teams at that time.
Everyone seems fine with older guys like Ray allen leaving a bad
team and joining a winner to get a ring
Why cant durant just skip that step and try and get a ring earlier
in life. I actually applaud Durant he would take less money and care
more about winning.
I hate more when a big star goes to a scrub city knowing he cant win but
wants a huge paycheck.
I somewhat agree but it is not like Durant is not getting paid much because if I am correct he gets 27 million Dollar. team and joining a winner to get a ring
Why cant durant just skip that step and try and get a ring earlier
in life. I actually applaud Durant he would take less money and care
more about winning.
I hate more when a big star goes to a scrub city knowing he cant win but
wants a huge paycheck.
So he is getting paid much and I believe that he is going to get a championship.
For someone like durant, he doesnt really need more paycheck on his pocket. He needs to get ring and retire someday in a style. All sportsman will think the same, paycheck is the second and the first will be glory and made the world remember him as part of the worlds sports' history
Adam Silver commented on the matter of KD transferring to the Warriors saying it puts too much imbalance in the league so they might have some CBA changes regarding super teams.
And yeah now they want a more balance lol. Silver expressed concern at the signing of KD which creates another super team.
"I don't think having two super teams is good for the league," he said. "For me, part of it is designing a collective bargaining agreement that encourages the distribution of great players throughout the league.
But on the other hand, I see those super teams will now be more pressured since most of the fans have lots of expectation from them.
If the asssociation wants a balance league, these are some of the things they can go through...
- minimizing the team's salary cap even those teams are big fish when it comes to salary offerings
- revised the opt out deal
In the current situation, the league has nothing to do if a player wants to transfer to his desire team whatever the goal, like Durant's case and any other superstar. So I see a minimizing the salary cap is one of the best thing to do "in case" they really want to balance the league.
..even if how good the warriors are but when the cavaliers are favored they can win easy.
Move on and discuss with the main line.
Adam Silver commented on the matter of KD transferring to the Warriors saying it puts too much imbalance in the league so they might have some CBA changes regarding super teams.
And yeah now they want a more balance lol. Silver expressed concern at the signing of KD which creates another super team.
"I don't think having two super teams is good for the league," he said. "For me, part of it is designing a collective bargaining agreement that encourages the distribution of great players throughout the league.
But on the other hand, I see those super teams will now be more pressured since most of the fans have lots of expectation from them.
this is the saddest truth NBA is already for entertainment and all because of money now, I think if the NBA association is in really care they should not allowed super team to be build at the beginning. well I hope it is not late for this.
Adam Silver commented on the matter of KD transferring to the Warriors saying it puts too much imbalance in the league so they might have some CBA changes regarding super teams.
And yeah now they want a more balance lol. Silver expressed concern at the signing of KD which creates another super team.
"I don't think having two super teams is good for the league," he said. "For me, part of it is designing a collective bargaining agreement that encourages the distribution of great players throughout the league.
But on the other hand, I see those super teams will now be more pressured since most of the fans have lots of expectation from them.
this is the saddest truth NBA is already for entertainment and all because of money now, I think if the NBA association is in really care they should not allowed super team to be build at the beginning. well I hope it is not late for this.
Adam Silver commented on the matter of KD transferring to the Warriors saying it puts too much imbalance in the league so they might have some CBA changes regarding super teams.
And yeah now they want a more balance lol. Silver expressed concern at the signing of KD which creates another super team.
"I don't think having two super teams is good for the league," he said. "For me, part of it is designing a collective bargaining agreement that encourages the distribution of great players throughout the league.
But on the other hand, I see those super teams will now be more pressured since most of the fans have lots of expectation from them.
force the superstars to leave tens of millions on the table if they really want to play together.
Agreed on that.
It would create a new sport, one where money doesn't control absolutely everything.
So it will never happen :3
Adam Silver commented on the matter of KD transferring to the Warriors saying it puts too much imbalance in the league so they might have some CBA changes regarding super teams.
And yeah now they want a more balance lol. Silver expressed concern at the signing of KD which creates another super team.
"I don't think having two super teams is good for the league," he said. "For me, part of it is designing a collective bargaining agreement that encourages the distribution of great players throughout the league.
But on the other hand, I see those super teams will now be more pressured since most of the fans have lots of expectation from them.
this is the saddest truth NBA is already for entertainment and all because of money now, I think if the NBA association is in really care they should not allowed super team to be build at the beginning. well I hope it is not late for this.
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