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Quote from: OgNasty on November 21, 2023, 04:30:31 PM

The Sacramento Kings are having a pretty good year so far building on what they were able to accomplish last year. Now they’re saying that they are going to get aggressive at the trading deadline but I’m not sure who is available that that could target. Maybe DeMar DeRozan but I’m not sure how well he would fit into their offense.

Obviously, they really need to update their rosters if they don't want to repeat the same mistakes all over again. they really wasted their chance last season to get to the Finals and now they need to make some new changes and prioritize their defense so that they can come up with a strong and competitive team when they get a chance to play in the NBA playoffs again this season. I think it's nice to have some new star players because that's exactly what they were lacking last season, they don't have enough support and role players.

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I also prefer Chet to win. I'm planning to make a bet on him while it's still 2.50. Wemby is at 1.50 so I am not surprised if he will really take the ROTY knowing he has all the time to pump his stats. There's also a big difference when it comes to the coaches since OKC's mission is to win and get into the playoffs as deep as possible. While the other coach is fully giving his time to Wemby.

Next season should be another interesting one in terms of these 2 players. But I expect OKC to become a better team that is capable of becoming NBA champions while San Antonio starts building players fit Wemby.

Chet is on the right team as they are on a mission, not just to make the playoffs but to be competitive once they are in the playoffs. With SGA playing the way he is and Chet making significant contributions, this OKC team is stronger than last season, and they've gained valuable experience. On the other hand, Wemby's hype might persist, but it's hard to ignore that his numbers aren't living up to the fans' expectations anymore.

SGA is on the MVP rankings and I think he'll stay on that level as long as he remains healthy, they are one of the youngest team now in the NBA and coming up at the top position in the West feels like it was Westbrook-Durant era. I think that ROTY will be snatch by Chet if Wemby wouldn't make some difference on his stats.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 21, 2023, 11:24:04 PM

LOL Philly seriously just lost at home against a Cavs team that is missing their best players.

NBA these days really is totally unpredictable.
Especially when teams are missing major players they suddenly pull off wins they maybe wouldn't even have gotten if the missing guys didn't sit. Kind of a next in line mentality.

I watched the whole game. If only Joel Embiid made that last shot in the 4th quarter of the regulation then it's over. But he missed and so it went to overtime. Fatigue is the problem, then foul trouble. Joel was fouled out by the referee who didn't even review it. It was too obvious it was Pat Beverley who did it but the 76ers have no challenge remaining to try and reverse the call.

The other problem that the 76ers will be facing is they are playing again later on the road against the Minnesota Timberwolves. Expect the Wolves to win this one in an easy way, especially with their twin towers there, Rudy and Kat. The 76ers will probably be exhausted but it will only show in the 2nd half of the game.
I will make a bet for the Wolves later and I hope the spreads will not be that high.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on November 22, 2023, 05:23:14 AM

I also prefer Chet to win. I'm planning to make a bet on him while it's still 2.50. Wemby is at 1.50 so I am not surprised if he will really take the ROTY knowing he has all the time to pump his stats. There's also a big difference when it comes to the coaches since OKC's mission is to win and get into the playoffs as deep as possible. While the other coach is fully giving his time to Wemby.

Next season should be another interesting one in terms of these 2 players. But I expect OKC to become a better team that is capable of becoming NBA champions while San Antonio starts building players fit Wemby.

Chet is on the right team as they are on a mission, not just to make the playoffs but to be competitive once they are in the playoffs. With SGA playing the way he is and Chet making significant contributions, this OKC team is stronger than last season, and they've gained valuable experience. On the other hand, Wemby's hype might persist, but it's hard to ignore that his numbers aren't living up to the fans' expectations anymore.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 21, 2023, 03:13:49 AM

I hope he will not put too much pressure on himself, he was overhype by the media and the main reason to that is his height and that he got some move which we've seen in the recent games, but he's not ready yet, he still has a big room for improvement, starts with growing some muscle I guess.

I think the problem is that the media has created an image of Victor as a super versatile center who can grab a lot of rebounds and make a lot of blocks as well as make shots outside the paint, including three-point shots, which is not typical for a big guy like him. As we can see, that's not really true because his three-point shooting percentage is only 26.9% at the moment. That's pretty bad, and I personally don't understand why he keeps shooting three-pointers every game anyway.

Well, San Antonio is a rebuilding team and everything is geared towards developing and finding the strengths and weaknesses of Wemby. So this season is a testing ground for Wemby. Pop is probably telling him to do everything Wemby thinks and wants to do because it is also a way of finding his maximum potential. At the end of this season, the Spurs can make an assessment and then start moving and taking some players necessary as role players for Wemby.

Everything is built for Wemby, so the betting odds still highly favor him to win ROTY over Chet. Wemby could be averaging 20+ points at the end of this season. OKC doesn't care much if Chet can produce or not since the goal is to win and SGA is their leading man.

Most provably this will be the result since there's no pressure for SPURS to lose since as stated that they are rebuilding and they just newly acquire Wemby on their team. For sure many fans already expect that this will happen since they are in the process where they need a roster that perfect fit to surround him.

Although I'm doubting about him winning a ROTY this season since Chet is doing so well but who knows if Wemby can able to perform more points,assist and rebounds per game then provably he will take that against Chet this season.

Right now its up to their coach on how they can develop this team to became more better next season since mostly this is what people expect on them that they became more productive next season.

I also prefer Chet to win. I'm planning to make a bet on him while it's still 2.50. Wemby is at 1.50 so I am not surprised if he will really take the ROTY knowing he has all the time to pump his stats. There's also a big difference when it comes to the coaches since OKC's mission is to win and get into the playoffs as deep as possible. While the other coach is fully giving his time to Wemby.

Next season should be another interesting one in terms of these 2 players. But I expect OKC to become a better team that is capable of becoming NBA champions while San Antonio starts building players fit Wemby.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 21, 2023, 03:13:49 AM

I hope he will not put too much pressure on himself, he was overhype by the media and the main reason to that is his height and that he got some move which we've seen in the recent games, but he's not ready yet, he still has a big room for improvement, starts with growing some muscle I guess.

I think the problem is that the media has created an image of Victor as a super versatile center who can grab a lot of rebounds and make a lot of blocks as well as make shots outside the paint, including three-point shots, which is not typical for a big guy like him. As we can see, that's not really true because his three-point shooting percentage is only 26.9% at the moment. That's pretty bad, and I personally don't understand why he keeps shooting three-pointers every game anyway.

Well, San Antonio is a rebuilding team and everything is geared towards developing and finding the strengths and weaknesses of Wemby. So this season is a testing ground for Wemby. Pop is probably telling him to do everything Wemby thinks and wants to do because it is also a way of finding his maximum potential. At the end of this season, the Spurs can make an assessment and then start moving and taking some players necessary as role players for Wemby.

Everything is built for Wemby, so the betting odds still highly favor him to win ROTY over Chet. Wemby could be averaging 20+ points at the end of this season. OKC doesn't care much if Chet can produce or not since the goal is to win and SGA is their leading man.

Most provably this will be the result since there's no pressure for SPURS to lose since as stated that they are rebuilding and they just newly acquire Wemby on their team. For sure many fans already expect that this will happen since they are in the process where they need a roster that perfect fit to surround him.

Although I'm doubting about him winning a ROTY this season since Chet is doing so well but who knows if Wemby can able to perform more points,assist and rebounds per game then provably he will take that against Chet this season.

Right now its up to their coach on how they can develop this team to became more better next season since mostly this is what people expect on them that they became more productive next season.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on November 21, 2023, 10:28:20 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on November 21, 2023, 03:13:49 AM

I hope he will not put too much pressure on himself, he was overhype by the media and the main reason to that is his height and that he got some move which we've seen in the recent games, but he's not ready yet, he still has a big room for improvement, starts with growing some muscle I guess.

I think the problem is that the media has created an image of Victor as a super versatile center who can grab a lot of rebounds and make a lot of blocks as well as make shots outside the paint, including three-point shots, which is not typical for a big guy like him. As we can see, that's not really true because his three-point shooting percentage is only 26.9% at the moment. That's pretty bad, and I personally don't understand why he keeps shooting three-pointers every game anyway.

Well, San Antonio is a rebuilding team and everything is geared towards developing and finding the strengths and weaknesses of Wemby. So this season is a testing ground for Wemby. Pop is probably telling him to do everything Wemby thinks and wants to do because it is also a way of finding his maximum potential. At the end of this season, the Spurs can make an assessment and then start moving and taking some players necessary as role players for Wemby.

Everything is built for Wemby, so the betting odds still highly favor him to win ROTY over Chet. Wemby could be averaging 20+ points at the end of this season. OKC doesn't care much if Chet can produce or not since the goal is to win and SGA is their leading man.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 21, 2023, 04:30:31 PM

The Sacramento Kings are having a pretty good year so far building on what they were able to accomplish last year. Now they’re saying that they are going to get aggressive at the trading deadline but I’m not sure who is available that that could target. Maybe DeMar DeRozan but I’m not sure how well he would fit into their offense.

I don't know, they seems to be perfect right now, I mean they have found the missing pieces together, Fox is currently the scoring champion if I'm not mistaken, so everything looks good. And with that it's hard to break that up, chemistry is high. Not saying that DeMar DeRozan is not a good player or he will be bad for the team, but it can disrupt what they have right now, just saying. So it might be better to removed that idea for now and let the current roster blossom.

And as what we have been saying before, they have gotten the experience from last year and so they bring it back this season and you can see the maturity from them and they are obviously one of the best team in the West so far.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 22, 2023, 01:25:40 AM

I was glad to see the Phoenix Suns win another one. Can’t wait to see if that squad can get all their pieces working together before the playoffs roll around. The Lakers looked dominant out there. An unusually low scoring game from LeBron but the team dominated. They’re suddenly playing like every game is the Finals to get that tourney bonus money.

We still need to see them goes against a tough team though, they've face Portland who was blown by OKC by a huge margin, and so it is expected that the Suns are going to win the same and that's what they did today. And I think if I'm not mistaken, the handicap listed as -11.5 for the Suns and they won by 13 points.

Yeah, I think the Lakers suddenly wakes up, or perhaps been motivated by their big win against Houston the last game.

Hawks and Pacers going at it again, with another high scoring game.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 21, 2023, 04:30:31 PM

The Sacramento Kings are having a pretty good year so far building on what they were able to accomplish last year. Now they’re saying that they are going to get aggressive at the trading deadline but I’m not sure who is available that that could target. Maybe DeMar DeRozan but I’m not sure how well he would fit into their offense.

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Ya, I’m not sure it would work well either. I definitely wouldn’t let Malik Monk go, even if I could trade him straight up for DeMar DeRozan… The Kings seem to have found a special sauce, so I’m worried how new ingredients will effect them. I’d also hate to see them waste Fox and Sabonis the way they wasted DeMarcus Cousins though.

Oh no, they should never do that to Malik Monk. The guy could drop 20-40 if they needed him to step up and when everyone else do not expect him to step up he would. Aside from that, I think he's a perfect fit for the Kings in a sixth man position.

On the other side, am I the only person who noticed that the Lakers team is a different team when it comes to playing in the In-Season tournament? I mean they just had blown out the Jazz leading by almost 40 at one point and ended it with a 32 pts differential. I know the Jazz isn't as good as the Jazz a year ago as right now they are in the bottom spot, but considering the Lakers are also struggling early this season, but all of their In-Season tournament games they seem like they're not struggling at all. I don't know, but I feel like the way they play in the in-season tournament is like the way they are going to play in the playoffs, or even better lol, let's see it's still too early to say.

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LOL Philly seriously just lost at home against a Cavs team that is missing their best players.

NBA these days really is totally unpredictable.
Especially when teams are missing major players they suddenly pull off wins they maybe wouldn't even have gotten if the missing guys didn't sit. Kind of a next in line mentality.

I didn't even think it would happen. The only possibility I considered was that Philly wouldn't be able to cover the spread, but they ended up losing anyway. It felt like they put in so much effort to bring the game to OT, only to lose in the extra time. But you know, that's just the nature of the game. Philly has its off days, and we can't underestimate the Cavaliers. They're a solid team that doesn't rely heavily on Mitchell, unlike Philly, which leans a lot on Embiid.

That's something unexpected I was under the impression that after putting it into OT they will take this extra time to dominate and possibly cover
the handicap but that thing did not happen and went to the other side.

Sorry, lost for those who back up the favorite, not having Mitchell is not a big problem for the Cavs they've got
everyone to cover and to help them win the game.

Whoever picks the Cavs and gambles with a heavy risk, they are enjoying those huge earnings for sure.

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I was glad to see the Phoenix Suns win another one. Can’t wait to see if that squad can get all their pieces working together before the playoffs roll around. The Lakers looked dominant out there. An unusually low scoring game from LeBron but the team dominated. They’re suddenly playing like every game is the Finals to get that tourney bonus money.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 21, 2023, 11:24:04 PM

LOL Philly seriously just lost at home against a Cavs team that is missing their best players.

NBA these days really is totally unpredictable.
Especially when teams are missing major players they suddenly pull off wins they maybe wouldn't even have gotten if the missing guys didn't sit. Kind of a next in line mentality.

I didn't even think it would happen. The only possibility I considered was that Philly wouldn't be able to cover the spread, but they ended up losing anyway. It felt like they put in so much effort to bring the game to OT, only to lose in the extra time. But you know, that's just the nature of the game. Philly has its off days, and we can't underestimate the Cavaliers. They're a solid team that doesn't rely heavily on Mitchell, unlike Philly, which leans a lot on Embiid.

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LOL Philly seriously just lost at home against a Cavs team that is missing their best players.

NBA these days really is totally unpredictable.
Especially when teams are missing major players they suddenly pull off wins they maybe wouldn't even have gotten if the missing guys didn't sit. Kind of a next in line mentality.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 21, 2023, 03:13:49 AM

I hope he will not put too much pressure on himself, he was overhype by the media and the main reason to that is his height and that he got some move which we've seen in the recent games, but he's not ready yet, he still has a big room for improvement, starts with growing some muscle I guess.

I think the problem is that the media has created an image of Victor as a super versatile center who can grab a lot of rebounds and make a lot of blocks as well as make shots outside the paint, including three-point shots, which is not typical for a big guy like him. As we can see, that's not really true because his three-point shooting percentage is only 26.9% at the moment. That's pretty bad, and I personally don't understand why he keeps shooting three-pointers every game anyway.

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The Sacramento Kings are having a pretty good year so far building on what they were able to accomplish last year. Now they’re saying that they are going to get aggressive at the trading deadline but I’m not sure who is available that that could target. Maybe DeMar DeRozan but I’m not sure how well he would fit into their offense.

I'm not sure if trading for another superstar will help them improve their roster, because what I can see with them since last year is that they need time to gel together and figure out how to win games in the playoffs. They already have a solid team chemistry that compliments each and every pieces in their roster. If they want to make a trade for another superstar, it would most probably going to involve Keegan Murray, Kevin Huerter, Malik Monk, Harris Barnes 1 or 2 of these players will get involved with the trade, we all know they won't send Sabonis and Fox away for a trade. Either of those 4 guys I've mentioned played a vital role for the team's success so far, so It's going to be gamble anyway. We've seen several teams who acquired 1-2 superstars recently, but didn't work well.

Ya, I’m not sure it would work well either. I definitely wouldn’t let Malik Monk go, even if I could trade him straight up for DeMar DeRozan… The Kings seem to have found a special sauce, so I’m worried how new ingredients will effect them. I’d also hate to see them waste Fox and Sabonis the way they wasted DeMarcus Cousins though.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 21, 2023, 04:30:31 PM

The Sacramento Kings are having a pretty good year so far building on what they were able to accomplish last year. Now they’re saying that they are going to get aggressive at the trading deadline but I’m not sure who is available that that could target. Maybe DeMar DeRozan but I’m not sure how well he would fit into their offense.

I'm not sure if trading for another superstar will help them improve their roster, because what I can see with them since last year is that they need time to gel together and figure out how to win games in the playoffs. They already have a solid team chemistry that compliments each and every pieces in their roster. If they want to make a trade for another superstar, it would most probably going to involve Keegan Murray, Kevin Huerter, Malik Monk, Harris Barnes 1 or 2 of these players will get involved with the trade, we all know they won't send Sabonis and Fox away for a trade. Either of those 4 guys I've mentioned played a vital role for the team's success so far, so It's going to be gamble anyway. We've seen several teams who acquired 1-2 superstars recently, but didn't work well.

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It’s not a good reason to hold back because his role was supposed to be dominating the paint not shooting 3s due to his height advantage. I know that some big man shooting nowadays but they dominate paint at the same time too like Chet.

Wemby on the other hand contributes a lot of turn over because he can’t secure properly the ball once he got it. He can’t be a good player design to right role for his height if he is afraid to have a contact since basketball is a physical sports. I remember reading an article which Coach Pop already stated that Wemby is avoiding a contact play.

https://www.sacurrent.com/arts/celtics-legend-blasts-spurs-popovich-for-not-getting-wemby-involved-on-offense-32981841

We do need to remember that this new age of big man are not really dominating the paint all that much, there are some like Embiid maybe, but Chet is like 100 pounds soaking wet, that dude is not going to dominate anyone. How do you reckon he could back people up, he doesn't have any muscle at all, he is not going to be able to post anyone up, he is going to be ruined down low if he goes there. Whereas, if he shoots threes, him and wemby have that advantage, it would be nearly impossible to block them, probably on three pointers attempted, they will have the lowest amount of blocked shots ever, and they are not even getting their faces covered neither, people can barely reach to that.

So they will have a clear shot to take, I believe that's a good thing for them. I think it would be smart to consider them as the most important part of their team, even with not going inside for post ups, they are still managing to find points and that's a good thing for them.

I know the game is changing and maybe I'm old but being able to guard down low is key for a big man. In the playoffs specifically if ypu run into a team with a monster front court ypu are gonna get beat on the boards and paint points. Unless ypu tear through the playoffs shooting the lights out, relying on the 3 ball to take ypu home usually runs into a wall at some point. Have to imagine losing the rebounding advantage is a key determination of losing series.

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The Sacramento Kings are having a pretty good year so far building on what they were able to accomplish last year. Now they’re saying that they are going to get aggressive at the trading deadline but I’m not sure who is available that that could target. Maybe DeMar DeRozan but I’m not sure how well he would fit into their offense.

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Not that much participants on the poll and it shows that Sixers have got the best start for this season garnering 4 votes. While the rest are just like one, two and four votes only.

Just wanna express how funny that image I saw because I've missed the actual game about Westbrook dunking on Dillon Brooks on his face. LMAO!

Well, the poll was just for fun and it will always be, good thing that OP was still active here updating the thread. Yeah, I think Brooks got the taste of his own medicine on that dunk of Brody.

And as for Brooks, I even see someone posted that he's changed his name as "villain" LOL. I know that it's just for fun and memes but still I find it funny.

Quote from: rhomelmabini on November 21, 2023, 12:45:44 PM

Well, I'm glad Clippers are in a good run now but will likely be doubtful considering it's just two consecutive wins, not a run to be proud of as of the moment especially for Clippers fans.

This super team is strong but we can see that it is going to take time for them to have that good coming together.

All of them want to win definitely but it's just that there's always something wrong when all of them are lead scorers.

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