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And I think that's is the thing, D'Lo did good during the IST tournament as far as I know, he did contribute to the offense as a guard/shooting guard with the Lakers. And so if they just keep on winning, those trade won't happen as they wanted their core to be intact.

But the problem is as we have seen, after winning why the Lakers play goes down?

Should trading their players is the real answer? Or is this another bad decision on their part again and they seems to really can't find the right players to blend with Lebron and Davis.

A good question that they need to figure it out, is it the players or the coaching personnel who always relying with LeBron? Pairing players
with Both Bron and Davis should not be an issue.

They both playing to compete and what they are needed is someone who can play the same level, correct me if I'm wrong but it seems that the blending
of players inside should be the thing that the coaching staff needs to fix.

Trading though might be another option, finding players who can adds up to the level of competitiveness of Davis and LeBron someone who
can give both stars some rest but still have that same level executions.
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January 02, 2024, 06:42:07 AM
It's amazing how Los Angeles, which won its first in-season tournament as champions, ended up in such a bad situation.
Yes, LeBron is the star of the team, but despite his age, he plays more than 35 minutes in these matches. If there is no other player next to LeBron who can support him and contribute to his scoring, the championship is considered a dream. Anthony Davis looks far from his old form. Injuries set him back a lot. If he regains his old form, LeBron and Anthony will be enough for Los Angeles.

If you look at Davis' stats, you'll notice that he averages both scoring and rebounding this regular season as well as he did for the Pelicans earlier in his career. So, I don't think he's the reason why the Lakers have been so mediocre. The reason is clearly something else, and the Lakers need to figure it out as soon as possible since they have only won 3 games after winning the in-season tournament.

Obviously it's not Davis, but something deep that it's hard to understand because after winning the IST, they suddenly become a garbage team. Of course there is rumor of trade of some players, but still though, they should have the momentum after winning.

But they turn into a champion into a mediocre team in an instant. For me it should be Darvin Ham's responsibility, he is the coach after all and it seems that he is not doing his job currently. Make adjustments, but he can't find the right combination.

You shouldn't be surprise with the players now. They were just exactly the same team last season, they qualify the play-in and  reach the playoffs. In fact, they reach the WCF but fall to the Nuggets. That's how dangerous the Lakers are, they seemed to be more competitive in important games, just like what they did during the in season championship, if you guys still remember.

Maybe there are players that will be traded but Davis and Lebron will remain. They have made changes already in the past but Davis was still there, so it's most likely D Angelo Russell that will be traded, that's for sure.

And I think that's is the thing, D'Lo did good during the IST tournament as far as I know, he did contribute to the offense as a guard/shooting guard with the Lakers. And so if they just keep on winning, those trade won't happen as they wanted their core to be intact.

But the problem is as we have seen, after winning why the Lakers play goes down?

Should trading their players is the real answer? Or is this another bad decision on their part again and they seems to really can't find the right players to blend with Lebron and Davis.
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January 02, 2024, 06:40:08 AM
It's definitely not just him. Davis had a lot of injury trouble last year (if memory serves).
In the last game, LeBron and Davis tried to keep the team alive, but they were not enough. Even if two of them show performance that will win the match, the other friends should also contribute to the score at least a little. Last year there was Dennis Schroder and he also contributed well from time to time. He contributed an average of 10 points. He also went to Toronto. When it comes to NBA, many people think of the Los Angeles Lakers and I hope they get out of this bad situation as soon as possible.
I believe something similar is happening with the Lakers like in the last season...
In the 22-23 season they had a regular performance, they had the capacity to get a good seed in the playoffs but finished in 7th place in the regular season.
I even imagine that the Lakers situation is unknown, they are a good team, but I don't know what's happening with them either, I don't know if it's a lack of chemistry between the players, staff or something like that, I imagined that one of the problems could be the current coach at that time (Frank Vogel), but he was traded to the Suns and Darvin Ham replaced him, but even so I feel that the Lakers are not that team with great potential that many fans (including myself) would be waiting.

But one thing I know, I have no doubt that the Lakers are still a dangerous team in the playoffs.
Last season they proved this, they had a season with a regular performance, they managed 7th place in the regular season and even so they reached the conference finals against the Nuggets.
I even dare to say that perhaps there is a missing player to help LJ and AD when either of them are tired and that he can take on the responsibility... I don't know if D'Angelo Russell, Prince, Hachimura or Reaves are ready for this (although they are "key players" who can help the team)


 I also believe that the Los Angeles Lakers will make it to the play-offs. The nice thing about basketball is that even if you haven't done anything during the season and get into the play-offs, you still have a chance to win the championship.
When LJ and Anthony get tired, D Angelo Russel may be the player who will take the scoring load. He is both young and has a lot of energy to prove himself to be a star.
 I always follow the Lakers because of the king of the NBA. Almost like LeBron, I follow his team. LJ is undoubtedly the biggest legend after Jordan
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January 02, 2024, 06:38:01 AM
It's amazing how Los Angeles, which won its first in-season tournament as champions, ended up in such a bad situation.
Yes, LeBron is the star of the team, but despite his age, he plays more than 35 minutes in these matches. If there is no other player next to LeBron who can support him and contribute to his scoring, the championship is considered a dream. Anthony Davis looks far from his old form. Injuries set him back a lot. If he regains his old form, LeBron and Anthony will be enough for Los Angeles.

If you look at Davis' stats, you'll notice that he averages both scoring and rebounding this regular season as well as he did for the Pelicans earlier in his career. So, I don't think he's the reason why the Lakers have been so mediocre. The reason is clearly something else, and the Lakers need to figure it out as soon as possible since they have only won 3 games after winning the in-season tournament.

Obviously it's not Davis, but something deep that it's hard to understand because after winning the IST, they suddenly become a garbage team. Of course there is rumor of trade of some players, but still though, they should have the momentum after winning.

But they turn into a champion into a mediocre team in an instant. For me it should be Darvin Ham's responsibility, he is the coach after all and it seems that he is not doing his job currently. Make adjustments, but he can't find the right combination.

You shouldn't be surprise with the players now. They were just exactly the same team last season, they qualify the play-in and  reach the playoffs. In fact, they reach the WCF but fall to the Nuggets. That's how dangerous the Lakers are, they seemed to be more competitive in important games, just like what they did during the in season championship, if you guys still remember.

Maybe there are players that will be traded but Davis and Lebron will remain. They have made changes already in the past but Davis was still there, so it's most likely D Angelo Russell that will be traded, that's for sure.
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January 02, 2024, 06:33:43 AM
It's definitely not just him. Davis had a lot of injury trouble last year (if memory serves).
In the last game, LeBron and Davis tried to keep the team alive, but they were not enough. Even if two of them show performance that will win the match, the other friends should also contribute to the score at least a little. Last year there was Dennis Schroder and he also contributed well from time to time. He contributed an average of 10 points. He also went to Toronto. When it comes to NBA, many people think of the Los Angeles Lakers and I hope they get out of this bad situation as soon as possible.
I believe something similar is happening with the Lakers like in the last season...
In the 22-23 season they had a regular performance, they had the capacity to get a good seed in the playoffs but finished in 7th place in the regular season.
I even imagine that the Lakers situation is unknown, they are a good team, but I don't know what's happening with them either, I don't know if it's a lack of chemistry between the players, staff or something like that, I imagined that one of the problems could be the current coach at that time (Frank Vogel), but he was traded to the Suns and Darvin Ham replaced him, but even so I feel that the Lakers are not that team with great potential that many fans (including myself) would be waiting.

But one thing I know, I have no doubt that the Lakers are still a dangerous team in the playoffs.
Last season they proved this, they had a season with a regular performance, they managed 7th place in the regular season and even so they reached the conference finals against the Nuggets.
I even dare to say that perhaps there is a missing player to help LJ and AD when either of them are tired and that he can take on the responsibility... I don't know if D'Angelo Russell, Prince, Hachimura or Reaves are ready for this (although they are "key players" who can help the team)
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January 02, 2024, 05:48:35 AM
It's amazing how Los Angeles, which won its first in-season tournament as champions, ended up in such a bad situation.
Yes, LeBron is the star of the team, but despite his age, he plays more than 35 minutes in these matches. If there is no other player next to LeBron who can support him and contribute to his scoring, the championship is considered a dream. Anthony Davis looks far from his old form. Injuries set him back a lot. If he regains his old form, LeBron and Anthony will be enough for Los Angeles.

If you look at Davis' stats, you'll notice that he averages both scoring and rebounding this regular season as well as he did for the Pelicans earlier in his career. So, I don't think he's the reason why the Lakers have been so mediocre. The reason is clearly something else, and the Lakers need to figure it out as soon as possible since they have only won 3 games after winning the in-season tournament.

Obviously it's not Davis, but something deep that it's hard to understand because after winning the IST, they suddenly become a garbage team. Of course there is rumor of trade of some players, but still though, they should have the momentum after winning.

But they turn into a champion into a mediocre team in an instant. For me it should be Darvin Ham's responsibility, he is the coach after all and it seems that he is not doing his job currently. Make adjustments, but he can't find the right combination.
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January 02, 2024, 04:51:50 AM
It's amazing how Los Angeles, which won its first in-season tournament as champions, ended up in such a bad situation.
Yes, LeBron is the star of the team, but despite his age, he plays more than 35 minutes in these matches. If there is no other player next to LeBron who can support him and contribute to his scoring, the championship is considered a dream. Anthony Davis looks far from his old form. Injuries set him back a lot. If he regains his old form, LeBron and Anthony will be enough for Los Angeles.

If you look at Davis' stats, you'll notice that he averages both scoring and rebounding this regular season as well as he did for the Pelicans earlier in his career. So, I don't think he's the reason why the Lakers have been so mediocre. The reason is clearly something else, and the Lakers need to figure it out as soon as possible since they have only won 3 games after winning the in-season tournament.

It's definitely not just him. Davis had a lot of injury trouble last year (if memory serves).
In the last game, LeBron and Davis tried to keep the team alive, but they were not enough. Even if two of them show performance that will win the match, the other friends should also contribute to the score at least a little. Last year there was Dennis Schroder and he also contributed well from time to time. He contributed an average of 10 points. He also went to Toronto. When it comes to NBA, many people think of the Los Angeles Lakers and I hope they get out of this bad situation as soon as possible.
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January 02, 2024, 01:34:58 AM
Good to see that the Pistons losing streak is over, but they are still the underdog in their next game against the Rockets and so they might start a new losing streak  Grin.
The Detroit Pistons will be underdogs for a long time unless they are playing against the likes of the Portland Trail Blazers, Washington Wizards, and San Antonio Spurs. We might see a bit of spread added to those games. I think it will only change if they make some movement before the deadline on February 8, 2024. Big movements are what they need.

All-Star voting continues until January 20. Votes cast today will be counted 3x.
Don't forget to vote for Alperen Şengün in the voting. He deserves to be an All-Star with the play he played this season. He became the locomotive that carried the Rockets and broke records in many areas as a young big man. He would be an entertaining All-Star player with his passes, he is already a very sympathetic person. I hope the coaches, media and players pick him even if he isn't picked in the top 5.
Oh yeah! Count me in! I will be voting for that dude.
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It will be in Indy, don't forget to vote for Hali. He had done a good job putting the Pacers in the Finals of the NBA Cup. They may have not won it but that's a great feat for a young team like them. Stats-wise, he is also the leader in assists with a 12.7 average per game. That's nasty. That young player is playing like Steve Nash of the Phoenix Suns back when he got a back-to-back season MVP who also led the league in assists. I think he deserves to be an All-Star even if this will not be in Indy.
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January 01, 2024, 10:13:32 PM
It's amazing how Los Angeles, which won its first in-season tournament as champions, ended up in such a bad situation.
Yes, LeBron is the star of the team, but despite his age, he plays more than 35 minutes in these matches. If there is no other player next to LeBron who can support him and contribute to his scoring, the championship is considered a dream. Anthony Davis looks far from his old form. Injuries set him back a lot. If he regains his old form, LeBron and Anthony will be enough for Los Angeles.

If you look at Davis' stats, you'll notice that he averages both scoring and rebounding this regular season as well as he did for the Pelicans earlier in his career. So, I don't think he's the reason why the Lakers have been so mediocre. The reason is clearly something else, and the Lakers need to figure it out as soon as possible since they have only won 3 games after winning the in-season tournament.
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January 01, 2024, 06:27:07 PM
Gabe was not a good trade for the Lakers. And I have heard of the rumor trade from the GSW about releasing Wiggins and  Draymond.
I think that is going to get some good change for the GSW if they will get to trade the two and who are they going to take? I wonder how Dray will feel if he is betrayed like Poole but then, it is a business decision.

Gabe was not traded to the Lakers actually, they signed him as a replacement for Dennis Schroder which obviously didn't go well so far as we all have seen about his performance, plus he is now become one of the biggest liability to the Lakers for being out most of the games they played due to injury. Well, can't blame the Lakers management because Gabe played very well in the playoffs playing for Miami Heat but now he looks like being robbed of his talent disappeared when the team needed him lol.
On the other hand, the GSW will pull a trade for sure because they seriously needs adjustments, otherwise they'll losing.
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January 01, 2024, 06:11:33 PM
Gabe was not a good trade for the Lakers. And I have heard of the rumor trade from the GSW about releasing Wiggins and  Draymond.
I think that is going to get some good change for the GSW if they will get to trade the two and who are they going to take? I wonder how Dray will feel if he is betrayed like Poole but then, it is a business decision.

Nothing betrayal happen to Dray and its pure business matter since he also need to understand that what he do recently can really affect his position on GSW. And since he became a toxic member on the roster for always having a controversy then he should understand that decision like this is likely to happen. Also it make sense to GSW to have good changes and Dray and Wiggins will be a good piece for them to trade then get a good return since I think they still have a good trading value.

GSW is in bad shape so I guess there's something roster adjustment will happen to them since for sure they don't like to be on bad position which they are in trouble to get a slot on playoffs.
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January 01, 2024, 06:06:14 PM
Gabe was not a good trade for the Lakers. And I have heard of the rumor trade from the GSW about releasing Wiggins and  Draymond.
I think that is going to get some good change for the GSW if they will get to trade the two and who are they going to take? I wonder how Dray will feel if he is betrayed like Poole but then, it is a business decision.
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January 01, 2024, 04:39:31 PM
SGA also has defense compared to other players. Embiid and Jokic are not known for their defense, and that means SGA is better than them at one half of the game, the fact that they are ranked higher is mainly because NBA cares about offense more than they care about defense, not just fans but also the whole entire organization tries to minimize defense as much as possible by calling almost everything a foul, so that is why we are seeing SGA not getting the attention he deserves.

How many players in that list could be considered a great scorer with 30+ ppg and then still be in race for being a great defender at the same time? Giannis could be the only one, he defends well, but he is not a great perimeter defender, he is great at inside, and most teams play outside these days.
I'm not a Philly supporter but embid has made all defensive team 3 times in his career and his defensive ratings are great.  And jokic is just on another level than most other players.  Dude almost averages a triple double.  He is one of the best passers in the league and makes players on his team better.  He is almost unstoppable when he digs in.  Sga is phenomenal but not in the ranks of those 2 yet.
The Jokic part is an easy to defend part, he is great at offense, but what I was talking about is that OKC is running their offense through SGA as well and he also adds defense to his game as well, whereas Jokic might be much better offensively, yes nearly triple double, great work, but he has absolutely no defensive skills at all, that was my point.

I am not saying you need to be amazing on defense to win MVP, I am just saying SGA has a better defense than Jokic. On the other topic, Embiid may have been great at defense so far in his career, and to be fair he isn't bad now neither, but I would say that SGA is better THIS season, that doesn't mean to say that SGA was better all the time, or in general, I just wanted to say this season that is all.

Sga is a great young player but embid literally wins games all on his own.  Not just on offense but defense too.  Take embid off that Philly team and they are one of the worst in the league, keep him on and they can contend for a championship.  Putting down embid and jokic in co.parison to sga is a weird angle they are all great.
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All-Star voting continues until January 20. Votes cast today will be counted 3x.
Don't forget to vote for Alperen Şengün in the voting. He deserves to be an All-Star with the play he played this season. He became the locomotive that carried the Rockets and broke records in many areas as a young big man. He would be an entertaining All-Star player with his passes, he is already a very sympathetic person. I hope the coaches, media and players pick him even if he isn't picked in the top 5.
Sengun will probably not be an all-star this season due to his position, although he had an all-star level season. Jokic, Davis and possibly KAT is almost certainly will be selected in his position. If one of them can't participate, he will probably be next in line. But I expect him to be a regular in the coming years. To make a simple calculation, the first five of the 2024 western all-star team will be sga-doncic-lebron-durant-jokic. the reserves will be curry, fox, booker, ant, davis, kawhi and george. So there is only one spot left. His opponents are players like towns, markkanen, sabonis and ingram. In my eyes, Alperen is ahead of them, but his team is a little unstable. If his team catches a series and goes to 6-7th place or something, it will be a little bit glamourized, but it's hard.
Sengun is a great kid, I keep seeing him all the time on instagram with NBA account, he definitely averages almost all-star levels on stats as well. Even if we assume that he doesn't become all-star, which is totally possible, back in the day he could have been, it was every position, now it's just guards and forwards basically, it's not the same, and Sengun doesn't have that many spots to be picked.

However, even if he doesn't, we could safely say that he would be around, like if one or two people misses it, then Sengun will be there to get in, that is without a question true. His only unlucky part is that no other all-star level players seems to be injured, which means he would probably not get that chance to play.
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Lots of Piston fans got frustrate about long losing streak they are experiencing then its like they can get more lose since the players is doing a huge mess. Don't actually know what's happening on them since they have good coach and its like they can't connect with each other and their defense is so poor. Provably Piston needs a deep rebuilding process for what they are experiencing now and  they need to figure out the root cause of the problem so that they can find a solution then atleast get a one win since for sure there are lot of fans will be happy for them if they broke that long losing streak.

I see it is just a coincidence if you look at all of the Detroit Pistons games they are all so close to winning yet they are losing every game for sure if you look at every game they have you can see a great player like Bojan Bogdanovic, Cade Cunningham Marvin Bagley III that is doing great with every game they take, and for the game on the Toronto Raptors it was Jalen Duren in my opinion and his participation on the game that made a slight edge winning for the Detroit Piston, for sure many want Piston to retain the Lossing streak record but it is a bad reputation for the team to get this kind f results,

I had Pistons to win last night on my betting ticket alongside 76ers ( who ruined my entire bet ) , Mavs and Wolves and I swear whenever I pick 76ers to win , they lose and vice versa...so I think it's safer for me to simply forget 76ers are in NBA  Grin Grin. Overall , I should be happy for Bulls but I'm more happy for Pistons to finally get that win because no one wants to suffer to many defeats in a row ...especially for the mental health.

Philadelphia 76ers had many injuries going into the Chicago Bulls game and it was quite a bad idea getting a bet on them but for sure they got it, and their massive 2 consecutive wins were the thing you are sure about that is why you bet for them but as I think it is just a coincidence that some teams are losing and some team don't this is the game of basketball and anything can surely happen that is why it is really hard to predict,


Yeah, the Chicago Bulls are slightly better with Zach Lavine sidelined, I'm not saying this makes Lavine a terrible player, but maybe that's not just the team he's meant to be in, while there is a very huge speculation of where he would end up, with a high chance of him getting traded, Raptors were one of those team, now I don't think Raptors is a possible destination after just trading for RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley, the other in question was said to be Miami Heat, while the Heat look to have gotten some significant piece from draft picks and a couple of veterans, addition of Zach Lavine wouldn't be a downgrade, neither will it disrupt whatever chemistry they're trying to build now.

I agree! Zach LeVine is certainly a unique, player but maybe because of the rumors that the team will trade him out have got him a little out of context, but Chicago Bulls is so much ready every time Zach LeVine is on the team but apparently, if they would trade him for a better player then I think Zach LeVine deserves a good team, I really wish he can be in a team where his type of playing will work in their system and that he could be a Pillar and not just a backup,

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Los Angeles Lakers, once a legendary team, are now in decline. They lost 129-109 to New Orleans in the match played last night. Even though LeBron James was the top scorer of the game in Los Angeles with 34 points, this was not enough for the victory.
Boston, the NBA's best team at the moment, defeated San Antonio on the road with a score of 101-134. There is no star basketball player in Boston that I know of, but they play the team game very well. If they do not have any injury problems, the Boston Celtics are the biggest candidate for the championship.
Other match scores of the night are as follows:
Oklahoma 124-108 Brooklyn
Memphis 92-123 Sacramento
Phoenix 112-107 Orlando


Regardless how hard LeBron will play, if the entire team does not have that same level of competition, the outcome will still be the same. Individual stats
like that is only good for the player itself but for the team, it is useless.

Yes, Boston is really playing well this season with how they share the ball and how dominant they are in terms of attacking the basket. That's

much higher percentage of shots and a chance to make a 3-point play, they are not taking many 3's though they are also capable in hitting big shots.

It's amazing how Los Angeles, which won its first in-season tournament as champions, ended up in such a bad situation.
Yes, LeBron is the star of the team, but despite his age, he plays more than 35 minutes in these matches. If there is no other player next to LeBron who can support him and contribute to his scoring, the championship is considered a dream. Anthony Davis looks far from his old form. Injuries set him back a lot. If he regains his old form, LeBron and Anthony will be enough for Los Angeles.
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January 01, 2024, 10:57:02 AM
Lately I have not been a fan of NBA until I started following other people bets and I saw a huge amount of bets at least in the casino where I usually play which is the one in my signature are on basketball.I love playing every single game there with over as my preferred bets as they score a lot of points usually and the over bet is the most played from other people too.I find it quite strange that since the time I used to watch every game of NBA several years ago when Chicago Bulls used to dominate this and then it was Sacramento Kings,

NBA nowadays is more on offense and sacrifice defense that’s why the total score is always a score fest especially when the fight involves top seed team. Team usually just focus on recovering through scoring in return unlike before that defense is always an important part of the game to limit any team from scoring. I believe only 4th quarter when score is tight defense starts to take effect.

since then I have lost the interest to watch games here yet the interest is sparked again and seeing some team like Bolton Celtics leading the NBA is strange to me at least.The NBA keeps me wake at night when there are no soccer matches to entertain myself by betting in here.

Chicago bulls? Are you talking about MJ or Rose era because this the only time I saw bulls dominate the league. Boston Celtics is always been the running for top seed for a long time.
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All-Star voting continues until January 20. Votes cast today will be counted 3x.
Don't forget to vote for Alperen Şengün in the voting. He deserves to be an All-Star with the play he played this season. He became the locomotive that carried the Rockets and broke records in many areas as a young big man. He would be an entertaining All-Star player with his passes, he is already a very sympathetic person. I hope the coaches, media and players pick him even if he isn't picked in the top 5.
Sengun will probably not be an all-star this season due to his position, although he had an all-star level season. Jokic, Davis and possibly KAT is almost certainly will be selected in his position. If one of them can't participate, he will probably be next in line. But I expect him to be a regular in the coming years. To make a simple calculation, the first five of the 2024 western all-star team will be sga-doncic-lebron-durant-jokic. the reserves will be curry, fox, booker, ant, davis, kawhi and george. So there is only one spot left. His opponents are players like towns, markkanen, sabonis and ingram. In my eyes, Alperen is ahead of them, but his team is a little unstable. If his team catches a series and goes to 6-7th place or something, it will be a little bit glamourized, but it's hard.
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Lately I have not been a fan of NBA until I started following other people bets and I saw a huge amount of bets at least in the casino where I usually play which is the one in my signature are on basketball.I love playing every single game there with over as my preferred bets as they score a lot of points usually and the over bet is the most played from other people too.I find it quite strange that since the time I used to watch every game of NBA several years ago when Chicago Bulls used to dominate this and then it was Sacramento Kings,since then I have lost the interest to watch games here yet the interest is sparked again and seeing some team like Bolton Celtics leading the NBA is strange to me at least.The NBA keeps me wake at night when there are no soccer matches to entertain myself by betting in here.
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January 01, 2024, 09:17:38 AM
All-Star voting continues until January 20. Votes cast today will be counted 3x.
Don't forget to vote for Alperen Şengün in the voting. He deserves to be an All-Star with the play he played this season. He became the locomotive that carried the Rockets and broke records in many areas as a young big man. He would be an entertaining All-Star player with his passes, he is already a very sympathetic person. I hope the coaches, media and players pick him even if he isn't picked in the top 5.
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