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Quote from: xLays on November 11, 2023, 06:06:10 AM

LA Clippers 0-3 now with James Harden.

Quite opposite to the start of James harden with the 76ers, its not James harden problem but the coaching style because if you look at his stats, he ain't shooting brick my friend.

Quote from: xLays on November 11, 2023, 06:06:10 AM

The Clippers already have a strong team so it's hard to see how James Harden fits in. Clippers doing well without Harden and his style might cause more problems than solutions. Maybe he could come off the bench to help but that's not guaranteed if he doesn't agree. If Jame Harden don't want to go bench trading him might be an option again. Lmao. Even without Harden the Clippers are still a top team especially when Paul George and Kawhi Leonard are fit and playing.

The coaching staff should have anticipated James Harden's arrival, considering he would be joining the mix. Now, with four superstars in the starting lineup, it's quite challenging for the players, as each of them is used to having the ball in their hands. We've already witnessed some chemistry issues, but let's hope they can resolve them soon.

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What is this new colors on the floor ?? My eyes are getting super dizzy and I simply cannot follow where the ball is during a game so I do hope they will change the bright colors asap or a lot of fans like myself will simply don't watch the game.

Also , how did NBA allowed this in first place ? Sure , it looks nice if you're the player but for a TV viewer it's simply awful to watch. Huh

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LA Clippers 0-3 now with James Harden. The Clippers already have a strong team so it's hard to see how James Harden fits in. Clippers doing well without Harden and his style might cause more problems than solutions. Maybe he could come off the bench to help but that's not guaranteed if he doesn't agree. If Jame Harden don't want to go bench trading him might be an option again. Lmao. Even without Harden the Clippers are still a top team especially when Paul George and Kawhi Leonard are fit and playing.

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^^ It's a good win, but I'm not still impressed with the Lakers. As you have said, I don't know, but they really play relax early in the game making the Suns getting on a hot start and establishing a good lead. This has been the Lakers weakness in their last several games. They will allow the other teams to make a commanding lead and they will go up in the 3rd-4th quarter run.

But obviously, they can't win all the time with this strategy. It's good that they all step up in this game, several players in double digit. Wood having 9 rebounds, Reddish suddenly caught fire with his 3 points and then with 3 steals. Prince defending KD. And then Reaves those sweet jumpers. AD intimidating in the middle and Lebron going hard inside although he has a missed FT. They should be playing consistently for full 4 quarters.

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The Lakers won against the Suns, cutting the Phoenix winning streak. One key take away again with the Lakers, is that they keep on chasing up games. The Suns put up a good lead however, they weren't able to maintain it and the Lakers will have to make a comeback again.

It's good that everyone contributed here, Austin Reaves and Cam Reddish with his 3 points. Prince didn't score in double digits but he had that attack with a sidesteps to put the lead up to 5 and he also defended KD in this game, specially in the 4th quarter.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on November 10, 2023, 10:04:26 PM

I don't think it will take four or five seasons for a guy of the caliber that Wemby is to get things going. I've seen a lot of basketball over the years, and typically guys that heralded and with that much promise get going earlier than most will.

I'm just excited to see someone that tall being able to run up and down the court normally. Back when guys of that height could hardly make it up and down the court.

Speaking of Wemby, he scored 29 points in the game against the Wolves. It's just unfortunate that their losing streak continues, now at three games. Wemby has a lot to prove, but he must start with his consistency, as he can't carry a team without it. I would be happy if Wemby wins the Rookie of the Year this season. However, I'm okay if they don't make the playoffs, as long as their team doesn't end up at the bottom of the rankings.

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Quote from: FanEagle on November 10, 2023, 02:35:16 PM

I mean averaging 18.8 ppg and 2.4 blocks per game on your rookie year is still great. We need to remember that Wembanyama is having his first ever season, he is just a rookie, and it's his early games. He is not suppose to end up playing like a superstar right away, he could be just very well doing fine, and that is understandable and there is nothing wrong with that, as long as the dude is making sure that he stays healthy, I would consider that a win for him.

By my metric, anything above 15ppg, or even if he is closer to 20ppg like right now that's better, and anything above 2 blocks per game, with about 70 or more games played, is a rocking awesome rookie year. He can get a lot better later on, I think it's about year 5 when they start to actually be a superstar. Up until that point, they try to build their body to withstand 82 games, or at least as much as possible, some like AD never achieve that Cheesy

. So if Wemby could get there, then I expect year 5 to be the "superstar" year.

Yep, Wemby has really good and promising stats, considering he's still a rookie in the NBA. In general, I agree that it takes about 4-5 seasons or even more for a promising player to progress from a rookie to a superstar. However, some players are exceptions in this regard. For example, LeBron and Durant actually became superstars during their second/third seasons, and Rose was able to become MVP after his third season.
Will Wemby have a chance to repeat the accomplishments of these guys? Sure, if he doesn't get seriously injured.

I don't think it will take four or five seasons for a guy of the caliber that Wemby is to get things going. I've seen a lot of basketball over the years, and typically guys that heralded and with that much promise get going earlier than most will.

I'm just excited to see someone that tall being able to run up and down the court normally. Back when guys of that height could hardly make it up and down the court.

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Quote from: FanEagle on November 10, 2023, 02:35:16 PM

I mean averaging 18.8 ppg and 2.4 blocks per game on your rookie year is still great. We need to remember that Wembanyama is having his first ever season, he is just a rookie, and it's his early games. He is not suppose to end up playing like a superstar right away, he could be just very well doing fine, and that is understandable and there is nothing wrong with that, as long as the dude is making sure that he stays healthy, I would consider that a win for him.

By my metric, anything above 15ppg, or even if he is closer to 20ppg like right now that's better, and anything above 2 blocks per game, with about 70 or more games played, is a rocking awesome rookie year. He can get a lot better later on, I think it's about year 5 when they start to actually be a superstar. Up until that point, they try to build their body to withstand 82 games, or at least as much as possible, some like AD never achieve that Cheesy

. So if Wemby could get there, then I expect year 5 to be the "superstar" year.

Yep, Wemby has really good and promising stats, considering he's still a rookie in the NBA. In general, I agree that it takes about 4-5 seasons or even more for a promising player to progress from a rookie to a superstar. However, some players are exceptions in this regard. For example, LeBron and Durant actually became superstars during their second/third seasons, and Rose was able to become MVP after his third season.
Will Wemby have a chance to repeat the accomplishments of these guys? Sure, if he doesn't get seriously injured.

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Quote from: Yogee on November 10, 2023, 10:35:00 AM

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Crappy loss for the Milwaukee Bucks.
Is Khris Middleton even there?

The 19 points playing under 20 minutes with over 50% shooting is not bad at all. Maybe he could have made more attempts but I think he did well with the time he spent on the court.
Their center that was barely useful on both scoring and rebounding. It's alarming when the one who is supposed to control the boards only have 1 in 28 minutes.

Yeah, I cannot say if he is really back or not. The Middleton that I wish to see is the All-Star caliber that we have seen in the season before they became a champion. But yes, not bad for 20 minutes, I just wish for consistency because Giannis will need all the help he can get without Lillard. Before, it was Jrue Holiday who would fill that hole so I guess right now it's up to him.

Quote from: FanEagle on November 10, 2023, 02:35:16 PM

I mean averaging 18.8 ppg and 2.4 blocks per game on your rookie year is still great. We need to remember that Wembanyama is having his first ever season, he is just a rookie, and it's his early games. He is not suppose to end up playing like a superstar right away, he could be just very well doing fine, and that is understandable and there is nothing wrong with that, as long as the dude is making sure that he stays healthy, I would consider that a win for him.

By my metric, anything above 15ppg, or even if he is closer to 20ppg like right now that's better, and anything above 2 blocks per game, with about 70 or more games played, is a rocking awesome rookie year. He can get a lot better later on, I think it's about year 5 when they start to actually be a superstar. Up until that point, they try to build their body to withstand 82 games, or at least as much as possible, some like AD never achieve that Cheesy

. So if Wemby could get there, then I expect year 5 to be the "superstar" year.

Strongly agree. Let's not be dragged by the hype. He is still a rookie and some fans are expecting too much from him. Those are good numbers for a rookie, all he needs to do is keep that up while he is gaining more experience and confidence.
Soon, he will be a different Wembanyama and we might be shocked that he will get a championship at an early age. Well, it will also depend on the San Antonio Spurs management on how they will pair him with someone else.
I guess they are good at doing that considering the Parker, Timmy, and Manu combination was spot on! I am just going to wait on who they will acquire next year or maybe a couple more.

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Quote from: FanEagle on November 10, 2023, 02:35:16 PM

I mean averaging 18.8 ppg and 2.4 blocks per game on your rookie year is still great. We need to remember that Wembanyama is having his first ever season, he is just a rookie, and it's his early games. He is not suppose to end up playing like a superstar right away, he could be just very well doing fine, and that is understandable and there is nothing wrong with that, as long as the dude is making sure that he stays healthy, I would consider that a win for him.

That is the thing though with this hype rookies, the expectations are very high. And the last time that we have this kind of hype is Lebron James when he come on the league. And he did good during his first year. I know it's going to be tough following that footsteps because we have seen it already and up to know James is still playing so it's a hard to replicate that.

Quote from: FanEagle on November 10, 2023, 02:35:16 PM

By my metric, anything above 15ppg, or even if he is closer to 20ppg like right now that's better, and anything above 2 blocks per game, with about 70 or more games played, is a rocking awesome rookie year. He can get a lot better later on, I think it's about year 5 when they start to actually be a superstar. Up until that point, they try to build their body to withstand 82 games, or at least as much as possible, some like AD never achieve that Cheesy

. So if Wemby could get there, then I expect year 5 to be the "superstar" year.

Of course, anything about 15 ppg is already a big numbers for a rookie. And fans are going to Spurs game to watch him. And so he has a lot things to look at in the next 5 years. But the good thing is that the kid is carrying himself up to this point and hopefully his body can go and withstand 82 games.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on November 10, 2023, 09:00:32 AM

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There certainly is a huge pressure on him because he's the #1 pick on this class and the Spurs have got all of those picks that he's following with.
He's being groomed and taken care properly by the team and that's why people's expectation on him is high.
But yes, give him a break as he's still a rookie but look at how he's like the main guy on the team now while he's still on his very first year on his team.

Yes, He's the main alpha even in his rookie year, the expectation is too high as fans and viewers wanted more from this young guy, unlike
with other rookies being number 1 really being eyed by both criticism and complements.

I think he just set it as well because of what he's said that he's going to beat a lot of the superstars now and he'll dominate the league.

Quote from: carlisle1 on November 10, 2023, 09:00:32 AM

He can't please everyone but with how he's showing his game seems that there's really something special about him, aside from his height which really
gives him that extra edge, but his skills and knowledge about the game that are really going to be interesting if he will keep on improving it all.

Yes, he can't please everyone and he's no doubt that showing how good he is on his very first rookie year. He's setting some records that the other superstars did from their rookie years and he even managed to surpass most of them.

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I mean averaging 18.8 ppg and 2.4 blocks per game on your rookie year is still great. We need to remember that Wembanyama is having his first ever season, he is just a rookie, and it's his early games. He is not suppose to end up playing like a superstar right away, he could be just very well doing fine, and that is understandable and there is nothing wrong with that, as long as the dude is making sure that he stays healthy, I would consider that a win for him.

By my metric, anything above 15ppg, or even if he is closer to 20ppg like right now that's better, and anything above 2 blocks per game, with about 70 or more games played, is a rocking awesome rookie year. He can get a lot better later on, I think it's about year 5 when they start to actually be a superstar. Up until that point, they try to build their body to withstand 82 games, or at least as much as possible, some like AD never achieve that Cheesy

. So if Wemby could get there, then I expect year 5 to be the "superstar" year.

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That is the same problem as always in the multiple stars team, everybody thinks the stars is a basic sum of potetial and they are gonna destroy everything in his path, but doesnt work in that way, is much more complicated, and they can overshadow each other and ended up being more a subtraction than a plus.

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Quote from: Yogee on November 10, 2023, 10:35:00 AM

The 19 points playing under 20 minutes with over 50% shooting is not bad at all. Maybe he could have made more attempts but I think he did well with the time he spent on the court.
Their center that was barely useful on both scoring and rebounding. It's alarming when the one who is supposed to control the boards only have 1 in 28 minutes.

It would be nice if they won since it was the comeback game after Giannis got one of the worst call ejections in the NBA in their last game. But that's just the way it is, when it comes to performance, they were doing great but the Indiana Pacers were destined to win that time I'm pretty sure that they don't want to make the same mistakes again because it cost them a huge negative trust for whoever take the few last shots at the last minutes of the game and it might be bad for them because fans expected too much since they acquired Dame.

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Quote from: Yogee on November 10, 2023, 10:35:00 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on November 10, 2023, 09:07:47 AM

Crappy loss for the Milwaukee Bucks.
Is Khris Middleton even there?

The 19 points playing under 20 minutes with over 50% shooting is not bad at all. Maybe he could have made more attempts but I think he did well with the time he spent on the court.

Yeah, he played, but his inconsistent production has led fans to question whether the Bucks truly have a Big 3. Middleton, despite being paid like a superstar, hasn't been consistently delivering at that level.

Quote from: Yogee on November 10, 2023, 10:35:00 AM

Their center that was barely useful on both scoring and rebounding. It's alarming when the one who is supposed to control the boards only have 1 in 28 minutes.

I was surprised by Lopez's performance; it seemed like he had an off game, which is unusual for him. Completing the stats, he only managed 2 points and 1 rebound. However, his 3 blocks were quite impressive. I'm not sure what was going on with him in that game, maybe he wasn't feeling 100%.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on November 10, 2023, 09:07:47 AM

Crappy loss for the Milwaukee Bucks.
Is Khris Middleton even there? 54 points for Giannis, a damn monster. But Haliburton is a monster too. 29 points and 10 assists but his last three-pointer was so crucial that the Pacers badly needed it to sink in and it did.
That trade for Lillard was really a double-edged sword. Once he is injured it's like the Bucks are not a special team anymore unlike their past roster where they have deeper bench players.

How about the Orlando Magic versus the Atlanta Hawks? A very close game too in Mexico City and the fans are loving it.
Paolo Banchero, if he hit that last shot, he will be a hero. Grin

A big mistake for Jonathan Isaac though, after that offensive rebound he should've called for a timeout and not thrown the ball outside, they still have one timeout left and I think he forgot because of the heat of the game and the rowdy crowd.

Seen that but happy I've got the win over that but at lost over the Hawks that hasn't make my spread of -2.5. I think Milwaukee has a chance over that game if only Giannis play big in the last minutes but got choked on that turnovers. Well, he's gassed up and that's understandable and they even got the lead when in fact they're trailing and Giannis carrying it with over 50 pts. For that Hawks vs. Magic duel I think those who got their tickets was totally worth it, the game was too good to watch and Trae Young what an ice cold assist to give them that lead.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on November 10, 2023, 09:07:47 AM

Crappy loss for the Milwaukee Bucks.
Is Khris Middleton even there?

The 19 points playing under 20 minutes with over 50% shooting is not bad at all. Maybe he could have made more attempts but I think he did well with the time he spent on the court.
Their center that was barely useful on both scoring and rebounding. It's alarming when the one who is supposed to control the boards only have 1 in 28 minutes.

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But the Lakers were especially too horrible. I didn't expect them to be this bad. Last season also, Rockets beat them even during their bad season but this time Lakers were like high school team against pros, especially defensively. It is too early to predict but maybe Rockets will be above Lakers in the season, maybe Rockets will be over .500

Yeah, that performance by the Lakers players was pathetic. However, it's premature to draw any conclusions based on just one bad performance by the Lakers. Personally, I think the Lakers still have a good chance to finish the season above .500. Of course, this will only be possible if Davis and LeBron are not seriously injured and are healthy throughout the season.

Even when AD was playing, the Lakers were already losing 2 straight games prior to the Houston game. But it was really a complete disaster against Houston. Even if the Lakers are suffering from injuries, they still have decent players like Hachimura, Russell, and Lebron too. So it's a shame losing 30-plus points to a team not even considered a threat to the top.

Overall, the Lakers struggled a lot this season, they have wins but they were all close and could've gone either way. If they continue struggling then Lebron might ask roster change before the trade deadline just like what happened last season.

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Crappy loss for the Milwaukee Bucks.
Is Khris Middleton even there? 54 points for Giannis, a damn monster. But Haliburton is a monster too. 29 points and 10 assists but his last three-pointer was so crucial that the Pacers badly needed it to sink in and it did.
That trade for Lillard was really a double-edged sword. Once he is injured it's like the Bucks are not a special team anymore unlike their past roster where they have deeper bench players.

How about the Orlando Magic versus the Atlanta Hawks? A very close game too in Mexico City and the fans are loving it.
Paolo Banchero, if he hit that last shot, he will be a hero. Grin

A big mistake for Jonathan Isaac though, after that offensive rebound he should've called for a timeout and not thrown the ball outside, they still have one timeout left and I think he forgot because of the heat of the game and the rowdy crowd.

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To many things to work on and since he is on the right team and right coach for sure he can develop all of those if he show some willingness to learn more from great people who trained him.

He's just a rookie, and he's likely to win the Rookie of the Year award. So, the pressure is on for him, you know. People are talking about him because of his size, but if he can't consistently improve, I'm worried he might end up as a one-time wonder player.

There certainly is a huge pressure on him because he's the #1 pick on this class and the Spurs have got all of those picks that he's following with.
He's being groomed and taken care properly by the team and that's why people's expectation on him is high.
But yes, give him a break as he's still a rookie but look at how he's like the main guy on the team now while he's still on his very first year on his team.

Yes, He's the main alpha even in his rookie year, the expectation is too high as fans and viewers wanted more from this young guy, unlike
with other rookies being number 1 really being eyed by both criticism and complements.

He can't please everyone but with how he's showing his game seems that there's really something special about him, aside from his height which really
gives him that extra edge, but his skills and knowledge about the game that are really going to be interesting if he will keep on improving it all.

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