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November 08, 2023, 05:50:11 PM
I just watched Lakers vs Miami game, I mean the highlights of course not the full game, and I have to say both teams not scoring a single point for the last 2 minutes and 37 seconds is the explanation of how that game went. Lakers managed to come back from 13 point deficit on the last 4-5 minutes, and just 2-3 minutes of it, and on the rest of the 2.5 minutes they didn't score a single bucket. Heat is still one of the best defending teams of the league, no matter how they lost to Nuggets, they were still quite well and they did alright until there and they seem like they still have that.

I mean if they got Dame that would have been a whole another story, they would have fixed scoring issue when needed, but their defense at least seems great. Lebron was great once again, Austin Reeves literally lead the rebounds, but one thing to keep in mind that AD is still not playing as well as people expect him to play, he needs to get better, it has been a few games.

I have missed the debut of James Harden with Clippers but it looked great on his debut although they've lost against the Knicks.

Nothing spectacular about James Harden debut though, his usual self, getting his team mates involved because he has a good peripheral. But as you have said, Knicks looks solid already and Julius Randle knows his role and then and RJ Barrett, improving and could be getting into his prime years.

As for the Lakers vs Miami game, Lebron James really push himself, but Bam and Herro had a solid game.

So right now, the Lakers are inconsistent again, they don't need to do catch up games, they need to play full 4 quarters.

Harden is who he is.  Great offensive player but boring to watch.  He is a foul merchant and plays to get to the line.  His vision is special.  His feeds to zuboc were awesome.  Defensively he is a liability and lazy.  He plays defense for the first minute or 2 on the court then when he gets into game mode it's back to sitting back and letting his teammates do the work.

With that being said my first real good look at wemby tonight when they play the Knicks.  Excited to see him play.
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November 08, 2023, 05:35:17 PM
I have missed the debut of James Harden with Clippers but it looked great on his debut although they've lost against the Knicks.

Nothing spectacular about James Harden debut though, his usual self, getting his team mates involved because he has a good peripheral. But as you have said, Knicks looks solid already and Julius Randle knows his role and then and RJ Barrett, improving and could be getting into his prime years.
Yeah, nothing spectacular but looked great to me. New York Knicks has always been solid and the expectation from us is always met by them. They just keep on upgrading every season.

As for the Lakers vs Miami game, Lebron James really push himself, but Bam and Herro had a solid game.

So right now, the Lakers are inconsistent again, they don't need to do catch up games, they need to play full 4 quarters.
Heat no contest did great. Lakers was so close on that game but it's not that enough at all. Last like season, it's not a good start for them and I think they've got a better start this time unlike last year, right? Because last year before they even get their first win, I think it took them a lot of losses first before having that.

But this time, they're like the other teams that are on the record of 3-4 and that's not that bad at all as they start this season. So, that's why I am saying that they've got a better start this time than the last.
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November 08, 2023, 04:42:34 PM
I just watched Lakers vs Miami game, I mean the highlights of course not the full game, and I have to say both teams not scoring a single point for the last 2 minutes and 37 seconds is the explanation of how that game went. Lakers managed to come back from 13 point deficit on the last 4-5 minutes, and just 2-3 minutes of it, and on the rest of the 2.5 minutes they didn't score a single bucket. Heat is still one of the best defending teams of the league, no matter how they lost to Nuggets, they were still quite well and they did alright until there and they seem like they still have that.

I mean if they got Dame that would have been a whole another story, they would have fixed scoring issue when needed, but their defense at least seems great. Lebron was great once again, Austin Reeves literally lead the rebounds, but one thing to keep in mind that AD is still not playing as well as people expect him to play, he needs to get better, it has been a few games.

I have missed the debut of James Harden with Clippers but it looked great on his debut although they've lost against the Knicks.

Nothing spectacular about James Harden debut though, his usual self, getting his team mates involved because he has a good peripheral. But as you have said, Knicks looks solid already and Julius Randle knows his role and then and RJ Barrett, improving and could be getting into his prime years.

As for the Lakers vs Miami game, Lebron James really push himself, but Bam and Herro had a solid game.

So right now, the Lakers are inconsistent again, they don't need to do catch up games, they need to play full 4 quarters.
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November 08, 2023, 04:35:42 PM
I just watched Lakers vs Miami game, I mean the highlights of course not the full game, and I have to say both teams not scoring a single point for the last 2 minutes and 37 seconds is the explanation of how that game went. Lakers managed to come back from 13 point deficit on the last 4-5 minutes, and just 2-3 minutes of it, and on the rest of the 2.5 minutes they didn't score a single bucket. Heat is still one of the best defending teams of the league, no matter how they lost to Nuggets, they were still quite well and they did alright until there and they seem like they still have that.

I mean if they got Dame that would have been a whole another story, they would have fixed scoring issue when needed, but their defense at least seems great. Lebron was great once again, Austin Reeves literally lead the rebounds, but one thing to keep in mind that AD is still not playing as well as people expect him to play, he needs to get better, it has been a few games.
Much better that Dame was transferred in the Bucks and not with Heat. Heat is already composed and a balance team IMHO, they've got scorers and defenders and their defender and big man is even a scorer. Those very last moments of the game was crucial and I think the talked last pass and buzzer beater of Lebron James was all planned by Darvin Ham.

It's all in the coaching board drawn on how they're going to end the game but it didn't end properly. It's being argued that James should have given that pass to Austin and that's pretty much better. But anyway, they do what they have to do because they're all tasked and instructed as they are but it's still different if we're going to talk about basketball IQ.

I have missed the debut of James Harden with Clippers but it looked great on his debut although they've lost against the Knicks.
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November 08, 2023, 04:28:31 PM
Some good matchups today but the main game for ESPN is the Knicks and Spurs. A pretty terrible matchup in my opinion but it’s a chance to get a good look at Wemby on national tv. The later game between the Warriors and the Nuggets should be better basketball, as those two teams have a couple of the best records in the NBA.
I think it could be one of the most watch games, or at least the hype on Wemby is real and so fans can't wait to see him to play. Good exposure for him and the Spurs against a good team in the Knicks. Spurs though, a huge underdog as far as betting goes.

As for the Warriors vs the Nuggets, yes, it's going to be great match up as well. For sure the Warriors are waiting for this game, they want to test themselves against the defending champion. Lots of bodies going to be thrown on Jokic, number one will be Draymond, and then Looney and Saric, so let's see if they can match against the best big man we have today. Also, good matchup against Murray against Klay and Steph Curry. Denver favorites at 1.69 against the Warriors 2.39.
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November 08, 2023, 04:27:15 PM
If he's going to be consistent and produce these numbers every single game although it's unlikely but at least close to this stat, it's not just going to be all about Jimmy whenever they're against with other teams.

Tomorrow, they're going to be with the Grizzlies. Lesser rest but I'm sure that he's still going to show some good numbers on that game.
It would be an easy win for them since there is nothing for the Grizzlies right now and they are struggling too much without their star players. As for the Miami Heat, they need to act fast and earn more wins in order to secure their playoff spot because it will be hard for them to do so if they keep losing the easiest game they will ever have this season.
Yeah, Grizzlies are struggling right now and they're on a 1 - 6 whilst for Heat, they've got the 3 - 4 standing. It depends on which momentum is going to be taken care of but likely it's going to be Heat's.
It's insane how Grizzlies only got 6 players to play tomorrow with Miami Heat, Imagine how exhausting that would be for the players of Memphis. In addition to that, Miami heat has a complete first 5 man tomorrow who competed for the last championship. This is hell for Grizzlies for real.

This might cause a problem for the Grizz this season, starting off 0-6 but luckily they got 1 against the Blazers. But against the Heat, this is going to be 1-7 most probably.
What an unfortunate moment for the team to have 9 players being injured all at the same time. It would be ridiculous if they injured another one. The next 10 opponents for the Grizz after the heat is going to be hard for them.
The Jazz may have the 2nd worst standing in the West but they were beaten by 20+ pts the last time they played.
Let's see how they will bounce back from such a bad start.
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November 08, 2023, 03:45:35 PM
Yeah, Grizzlies are struggling right now and they're on a 1 - 6 whilst for Heat, they've got the 3 - 4 standing. It depends on which momentum is going to be taken care of but likely it's going to be Heat's.
It's insane how Grizzlies only got 6 players to play tomorrow with Miami Heat, Imagine how exhausting that would be for the players of Memphis. In addition to that, Miami heat has a complete first 5 man tomorrow who competed for the last championship. This is hell for Grizzlies for real.
Crazy, that's interesting and also would gather a lot of respect if they ever win this match against Heat. Obviously, they're no match for the Heat. But they can't just concede a game and they're all paid millions so they gotta play.

It's also gonna be a lot of playing time for the 6 of them so, this is gonna be like a break for all of them.

That's normal, because every game is important these days. It's fine to contest but if it's clear and the call is clean, they have no problem with that as well.

Anyway, that last second play of Lebron has been a hot topic today in social medias.
I mean, it's okay to contest, it is also part of the game but contesting after the entire game is quite awkward for me, it's like telling that the referees that they are wrong on their back. If I were them, I'll just accept all the call, at the end of the day Refs are human that commit mistakes as well, and just like the players they only have 2 eyes.
It is understandable if the game is crucial and it's just 1 point lead. The refs do understand that and I think that they're doing great job for at least catering the request to show to competent and accurate they were with the calls.
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November 08, 2023, 03:17:29 PM
Some good matchups today but the main game for ESPN is the Knicks and Spurs. A pretty terrible matchup in my opinion but it’s a chance to get a good look at Wemby on national tv. The later game between the Warriors and the Nuggets should be better basketball, as those two teams have a couple of the best records in the NBA.
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November 08, 2023, 03:04:24 PM
If he's going to be consistent and produce these numbers every single game although it's unlikely but at least close to this stat, it's not just going to be all about Jimmy whenever they're against with other teams.

Tomorrow, they're going to be with the Grizzlies. Lesser rest but I'm sure that he's still going to show some good numbers on that game.
It would be an easy win for them since there is nothing for the Grizzlies right now and they are struggling too much without their star players. As for the Miami Heat, they need to act fast and earn more wins in order to secure their playoff spot because it will be hard for them to do so if they keep losing the easiest game they will ever have this season.
Yeah, Grizzlies are struggling right now and they're on a 1 - 6 whilst for Heat, they've got the 3 - 4 standing. It depends on which momentum is going to be taken care of but likely it's going to be Heat's.
It's insane how Grizzlies only got 6 players to play tomorrow with Miami Heat, Imagine how exhausting that would be for the players of Memphis. In addition to that, Miami heat has a complete first 5 man tomorrow who competed for the last championship. This is hell for Grizzlies for real.

Anyway, I never thought you could challenge some miscalls after the games just like the Lakers did when they fell to the Heat yesterday. But they didn't get any good results because the calls were clean and there's nothing wrong with it. They should have just accepted their defeat and done the right thing in their next game because it wouldn't be good for them to act in such a way every time they lose in an intense game.
That's normal, because every game is important these days. It's fine to contest but if it's clear and the call is clean, they have no problem with that as well.

Anyway, that last second play of Lebron has been a hot topic today in social medias.
I mean, it's okay to contest, it is also part of the game but contesting after the entire game is quite awkward for me, it's like telling that the referees that they are wrong on their back. If I were them, I'll just accept all the call, at the end of the day Refs are human that commit mistakes as well, and just like the players they only have 2 eyes.
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November 08, 2023, 02:38:55 PM
If he's going to be consistent and produce these numbers every single game although it's unlikely but at least close to this stat, it's not just going to be all about Jimmy whenever they're against with other teams.

Tomorrow, they're going to be with the Grizzlies. Lesser rest but I'm sure that he's still going to show some good numbers on that game.
It would be an easy win for them since there is nothing for the Grizzlies right now and they are struggling too much without their star players. As for the Miami Heat, they need to act fast and earn more wins in order to secure their playoff spot because it will be hard for them to do so if they keep losing the easiest game they will ever have this season.
Yeah, Grizzlies are struggling right now and they're on a 1 - 6 whilst for Heat, they've got the 3 - 4 standing. It depends on which momentum is going to be taken care of but likely it's going to be Heat's.

Anyway, I never thought you could challenge some miscalls after the games just like the Lakers did when they fell to the Heat yesterday. But they didn't get any good results because the calls were clean and there's nothing wrong with it. They should have just accepted their defeat and done the right thing in their next game because it wouldn't be good for them to act in such a way every time they lose in an intense game.
That's normal, because every game is important these days. It's fine to contest but if it's clear and the call is clean, they have no problem with that as well.

Anyway, that last second play of Lebron has been a hot topic today in social medias.
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November 08, 2023, 02:26:54 PM
I just watched Lakers vs Miami game, I mean the highlights of course not the full game, and I have to say both teams not scoring a single point for the last 2 minutes and 37 seconds is the explanation of how that game went. Lakers managed to come back from 13 point deficit on the last 4-5 minutes, and just 2-3 minutes of it, and on the rest of the 2.5 minutes they didn't score a single bucket. Heat is still one of the best defending teams of the league, no matter how they lost to Nuggets, they were still quite well and they did alright until there and they seem like they still have that.

I mean if they got Dame that would have been a whole another story, they would have fixed scoring issue when needed, but their defense at least seems great. Lebron was great once again, Austin Reeves literally lead the rebounds, but one thing to keep in mind that AD is still not playing as well as people expect him to play, he needs to get better, it has been a few games.
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November 08, 2023, 01:21:40 PM
That is a monster performance. That’s the game that Anthony Davis sat out the second half because of a groin spasm right? Funny enough social media was calling it a boner… I digress. That performance shows how weak the Lakers are without Davis in the middle and with him being so injury prone, they’re pretty weak with him. They should’ve traded him two years ago.

Anthony Davis is injury-prone, and that's a fact that everyone is used to, as he has never played all 82 regular season games in his career. His best record is 75 games, and that was six years ago. However, it looks like the Lakers got lucky this time, as it's expected that Davis will be back for the upcoming game against the Rockets.
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That Adebayo performance was really impressive, though I think the Lakers could have beaten the Heat if Davis had been able to play the entire game.
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November 08, 2023, 10:58:45 AM
Clippers at +1200 now to win a championship, I think this is a good steal.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/

That's pretty attractive if you'll ask me.

I am now confirming it with my bookie but unfortunately I could not see the odds available it, I guess I just have to check back later.



The Knicks and Clippers were trading punches in the first three quarters but the home team kicked into another gear early in the fourth which set the tone for the rest of the game. Those five steals in the final quarter alone made a huge difference.

I think coach Lue did okay with his team's rotation despite the loss. How did you see Harden's debut?

He did good I believe. But I think coach Lue needs to revamp the line up, putting all 4 in the starting line up may not be good for the team as they lack sized against the Knicks, which is pretty evident by the rebounding disparity... 48 vs 31 only for the Clippers, that's not competitive.

I don't know whom they'll put on the 2nd unit but I like to see one of them take charge the 2nd unit, maybe Harden?
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November 08, 2023, 10:14:50 AM
The Knicks and Clippers were trading punches in the first three quarters but the home team kicked into another gear early in the fourth which set the tone for the rest of the game. Those five steals in the final quarter alone made a huge difference.

I think coach Lue did okay with his team's rotation despite the loss. How did you see Harden's debut?
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November 08, 2023, 09:36:27 AM
The last undefeated team in the league has fallen now with the Minnesota Timberwolves beating the Boston Celtics. Minnesota is also the only team in the league to have beaten the Denver Nuggets. While it’s still early, the Timberwolves are showing they’re a team to beat this year. They’re also the number one rated defense in the league.

Another big win by the Timberwolves. That win should boost their morale somehow and continue to their winning ways. However, there's still a lot to improve before they can consider themselves a serious contender this season. Their 2 towers need to be consistent. I am not sold on Conley, they need a stable and younger PG, and it does not have to be a star player. Nonetheless, the Timberwolves are still undefeated with a 4-0 record at home.

They need that kind of consistency at home especially when the playoffs comes. That win was huge as they have done that even without KAT.
It's now looking good for the Wolves, the addition of  Conley to this team has somehow contribute well to what they have become now and Edwards had already matured as a player due to his big experience, especially playing the FIBA WC.

If they continue to work well and develop then they will become a serious problem to any teams. They have their 2 towers who are both capable on offense and defense while Edwards is starting to show his leadership. A PG with good passing skills will definitely make them much better since the current roster is very good already. But if they have no other other option then Conley is decent. I just see his $24 million purse this year is too expensive but I understand that no other team will accept him with that kind of salary.

Are you referring to Conley with that contract? I know he had a huge contract with Memphis before he got traded, but he is a decent player, no longer in his prime, but he could still improve a team. I don't even understand why the Jazz let him go.


Boston and Philadelphia are now tied with 5-1 records. Philly has a 5 game-win streak.

It seems like they really don't need Harden after all. Speaking of Harden, he made his debut with the Clippers against the Knicks, but unfortunately, they lost.

Good thing they unloaded Harden in the early part of this season. Now Tyrese Maxey's potential will be fully realized. I have high regard for the kid. The Clippers only started well but are now losing games against top-tier teams.

Chemistry cannot be easily formed. The good thing is that Harden was traded early in the season, so there's still plenty of time for the Clippers to fix their team. What's important for the Clippers now is that Leonard is fully healthy. I think their squad will be strong enough once they are in the playoffs.

Clippers at +1200 now to win a championship, I think this is a good steal.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/
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November 08, 2023, 09:26:57 AM
The last undefeated team in the league has fallen now with the Minnesota Timberwolves beating the Boston Celtics. Minnesota is also the only team in the league to have beaten the Denver Nuggets. While it’s still early, the Timberwolves are showing they’re a team to beat this year. They’re also the number one rated defense in the league.

Another big win by the Timberwolves. That win should boost their morale somehow and continue to their winning ways. However, there's still a lot to improve before they can consider themselves a serious contender this season. Their 2 towers need to be consistent. I am not sold on Conley, they need a stable and younger PG, and it does not have to be a star player. Nonetheless, the Timberwolves are still undefeated with a 4-0 record at home.

They need that kind of consistency at home especially when the playoffs comes. That win was huge as they have done that even without KAT.
It's now looking good for the Wolves, the addition of  Conley to this team has somehow contribute well to what they have become now and Edwards had already matured as a player due to his big experience, especially playing the FIBA WC.

If they continue to work well and develop then they will become a serious problem to any teams. They have their 2 towers who are both capable on offense and defense while Edwards is starting to show his leadership. A PG with good passing skills will definitely make them much better since the current roster is very good already. But if they have no other other option then Conley is decent. I just see his $24 million purse this year is too expensive but I understand that no other team will accept him with that kind of salary.

Boston and Philadelphia are now tied with 5-1 records. Philly has a 5 game-win streak.

It seems like they really don't need Harden after all. Speaking of Harden, he made his debut with the Clippers against the Knicks, but unfortunately, they lost.

Good thing they unloaded Harden in the early part of this season. Now Tyrese Maxey's potential will be fully realized. I have high regard for the kid. The Clippers only started well but are now losing games against top-tier teams.
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November 08, 2023, 08:20:19 AM
Adebayo being overshadowed but he just put up an impressive number "under the radar" against the Lakers. It's his best performance so far.
- 22 Points
- 20 Rebounds
- 10 Assists

I think the future of the Heat rest on his shoulders. He is as important to the team as Buttler so hopefully he remains consistent and produce double-double every game.
Sure he is important to the team just like last season and right now, he's technically the new captain ball of their team.

If he's going to be consistent and produce these numbers every single game although it's unlikely but at least close to this stat, it's not just going to be all about Jimmy whenever they're against with other teams.

Tomorrow, they're going to be with the Grizzlies. Lesser rest but I'm sure that he's still going to show some good numbers on that game.

Same with how important Jimmy was, Bam is another core of this squad, together they are really performing, and they are bringing
decent stats, I like the way they are sharing the floor together.

Yes, without Jimmy, the Heat might struggle to even reach the playoffs. Bam is good, but I believe it was the Heat's system that made him better over time. He's a team player, and he benefits from that. However, we can't be sure if he'll have the same stats if he gets traded to another team. It has happened with other players in the past where they struggled.


With Bam's active scoring he's really a big threat inside especially with his rebounding capabilities reminding me of how a prime Howard before.

Though Unlike Howard who dominate the scoring for the team, Bam got everyone on his back and he's really doing his part
and not after with individuality.

Comparing him to Howard, they aren't on par. During Howard's prime, he was very unstoppable in the paint due to his size and athleticism, but Bam is just a shorter center, and he isn't as strong as Howard. Bam is only 6'10", and he struggles against bigger and taller guys like Jokic.
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November 08, 2023, 07:50:25 AM
Adebayo being overshadowed but he just put up an impressive number "under the radar" against the Lakers. It's his best performance so far.
- 22 Points
- 20 Rebounds
- 10 Assists

I think the future of the Heat rest on his shoulders. He is as important to the team as Buttler so hopefully he remains consistent and produce double-double every game.
Sure he is important to the team just like last season and right now, he's technically the new captain ball of their team.

If he's going to be consistent and produce these numbers every single game although it's unlikely but at least close to this stat, it's not just going to be all about Jimmy whenever they're against with other teams.

Tomorrow, they're going to be with the Grizzlies. Lesser rest but I'm sure that he's still going to show some good numbers on that game.

Same with how important Jimmy was, Bam is another core of this squad, together they are really performing, and they are bringing
decent stats, I like the way they are sharing the floor together.

With Bam's active scoring he's really a big threat inside especially with his rebounding capabilities reminding me of how a prime Howard before.

Though Unlike Howard who dominate the scoring for the team, Bam got everyone on his back and he's really doing his part
and not after with individuality.
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November 08, 2023, 03:29:20 AM
I will go for Jason Tatum here due to the consistency he has shown in the last few games, plus that impressive 54% from beyond the arc. This is remarkable because he does not fully rely on 3-point shooting, which would indicate how complete a player he is. No disrespect to Curry, though, but the Warriors have been relying so much on him, unlike the Celtics where everyone has been moving the ball well. So, Tatum does not have the same burden as Curry.
Yeah, that's right Jayson Tatum has been phenomenal and I think this is the prime of his career. He may probably be on the upper ranks of the MVP race but Nikola Jokic will be difficult to defeat as he keeps on posting triple-doubles every game. Last time was one shy away in assists and he could've broken the record of Lebron James and Jason Kidd earlier.

About the Warriors relying on Steph Curry, I do think Klay Thompson seems to be getting his rhythm back, I mean his past performance although it is given as he is not in his prime anymore and the injuries did hurt him badly especially mentally.
I think it's Wiggins who became inconsistent in their team, they sure can rely on him defensively and in rebounds but his offense is not that good anymore, especially his mid-range shots.
Although that is happening, the Warriors are still getting more wins in their past 8 games. 6-2 to be exact and I think that's pretty good considering how their roster was overhauled particularly their bench.

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November 08, 2023, 02:44:30 AM
Adebayo being overshadowed but he just put up an impressive number "under the radar" against the Lakers. It's his best performance so far.
- 22 Points
- 20 Rebounds
- 10 Assists

I think the future of the Heat rest on his shoulders. He is as important to the team as Buttler so hopefully he remains consistent and produce double-double every game.

That is a monster performance. That’s the game that Anthony Davis sat out the second half because of a groin spasm right? Funny enough social media was calling it a boner… I digress. That performance shows how weak the Lakers are without Davis in the middle and with him being so injury prone, they’re pretty weak with him. They should’ve traded him two years ago.
Boner made my day. Cheesy It made me laugh really hard  Cheesy Cheesy

Anyway, as for Davis being traded, there are many including me who wants him to be out of the Lakers a few years ago because of how injury-prone he is, but I guess he proved last season that he can still be one of the best centers "when healthy". Is he healthy last season? Well, yes he's less injury-prone that he is a few years ago. Did a quick research, and he's questionable in their next game against the Rockets alongside their another big in Hayes. Many are optimistic for the Lakers this season, and that they will be at a higher rankings compare to what they get last season, but right now, they're 3-4.

If they traded him a few years ago, who will they get as another big? Can you think of somebody that is a center as well who can play the same or even better than Davis?
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