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Looks like the Warriors doesn't miss Draymond at all, since he was out they were already in a 2 winning streak.

And because of his absence, this opens up more playing opportunity for Trayce Jackson-Davis, who has been playing well in their win against the TrailBlazers. Though I don't want to get myself too excited on the win since I know myself that Trailblazers is not a playoff team, but the Warriors despite Curry was struggling, his teammates were able to step up, specially his splash brother Klay who scored 28 points that game.

Good thing they managed to win. But it's not that significant knowing they won against mediocre teams. And the Warriors only won by slim margins. The real score will be known in their next game as they will be hosting the Boston Celtics. If they can win that game then it's a sign that there is hope even without Draymond.

If the Warriors can maintain a rank in the top 8, then they'll be fine even without Draymond. But they'll need Draymond during the playoff games. The deep experience, superb defense, and the ability to set up plays are just too good to be missed by the Warriors.

I've seen some clips of a young Trayce Jackson-Davis, who fans says could be the answer for Draymond Green in Warriors uniform. I think though that it's too early, Green mentality is very different. But it's good that Kerr is now trying to experiment lineups with Trayce and even Podziemski has been playing solidly and has been in the starting lineup, not sure how many games already though.

However, they almost lost another game as it could be another collapse against Portland, good thing is that Klay Thompson delivered in this game again and so they are in a 2 game winning streak. But they are still way below the .500 mark, and their next game will be against league leading Boston at Chase center. This will be a big test for them.

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The Boston Celtics are the first team to reach 20 wins this season by successfully and easily beating Orlando Magic and this will be a message for them and a chance to improve their play because there will be a higher chance that they could meet up in the NBA playoffs and the same scenario could happen unless they find a way to stop Tatum and Brown offense. Just like that, we are now a few months away from NBA all-stars week, and after that, the real game begins for the playoff teams.

Yes, we are in a time of the season that we can have quite a clear view on the teams and how their season can finish. And Boston made a clear impact. The team has a stronger starting 5 than we have seen in the nba for a long time. I don't think there could be many better starting 5s in today's cap conditions. If lillard-giannis duo doesn't work out, they'll win the east probably very easily, they're too strong. They still need a leading, veteran scorer on the bench. If they add a veteran player who can score when the game gets tight in the playoffs, it's a done deal.

Yes, so far the Celtics are the most consistent team in the East now. Among the 3 teams, (Celtics, Bucks, and Sixers), It's the Celtics that will likely win the competition, but only if we are not including other teams such as the Miami Heat. The good thing with the Celtics this season is that they made a great changes on their line up, adding Porzi was a good thing as they were able to acquire additional size and offense from him, and good thing also because he is a good team player.

As we can see ; https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/porzikr01.html... his average have dropped compared to last season but his impact to the team is very positive, so I think Porzi probably had found a team that could give him the ultimate success in basketball, and that is to win a championship.

There are games that Ponzi was out though, so perhaps that will affect his average. But as far as his impact with the team, yeah it's huge. And him and Jaylen Brown seems to found a new bond, Ponzi with a screen and then Brown giving him that alley-oop and Ponzi delivering a shattering dunk. Or even in a fast break, Brown always find Ponzi so it's good to see him play like this. And they are blowing up good teams with double digit win and easily covering handicap for us bettors. Only the Bucks and specially the Sixers are coming close to what the Celtics are doing right now. So I wouldn't be surprised that they are the first time to win that 20 games this season.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on December 18, 2023, 02:01:51 PM

I honestly doubt that Warriors "need" Draymond Green, he is not a bad player that they would not use or anything like that, but I honestly think that they could play without him and be fine as well. The real trouble for them is the fact that Klay never really recovered from his injury, he is not as good as he used to be, that dude was nuclear from three at some times, and he is not that anymore and his defence is still better than Curry but not as elite as he used to be.

Of course they don't need Green they can continue to play, but he is the one of the leader of the Warriors, those intangibles that Green can bring to them is huge, just saying. It's not about Klay though, as you can see in his last 3 games, he scored 30,24,28.

Quote from: el kaka22 on December 18, 2023, 02:01:51 PM

If Klay was what he was, then even without Dyramond they could have won the title. In any case, I just think they are way too old now, and the chance for them to win a title is gone, they got one last ring and they should be happy with that, it's over and they should go home.

I think this is the main reason, they are getting old, getting another old PG in CP3 and they are using old system that maybe some of the teams have caught up with them already. And maybe the dynasty is already over, and perhaps it will only be Curry who will be left in the Warriors uniform when the management decided it's time to break up and star fresh.

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I honestly doubt that Warriors "need" Draymond Green, he is not a bad player that they would not use or anything like that, but I honestly think that they could play without him and be fine as well. The real trouble for them is the fact that Klay never really recovered from his injury, he is not as good as he used to be, that dude was nuclear from three at some times, and he is not that anymore and his defence is still better than Curry but not as elite as he used to be.

If Klay was what he was, then even without Dyramond they could have won the title. In any case, I just think they are way too old now, and the chance for them to win a title is gone, they got one last ring and they should be happy with that, it's over and they should go home.

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Quote from: Yogee on December 18, 2023, 09:23:32 AM

What are your thoughts on the flopping tech called on Dillon Brooks against the Bucks? The call looks ridiculous to me as it seems he was pushed while trying to save the ball. I don't see the flopping there. This is only the regular season so imagine getting erroneous decisions like this come playoff time.

I searched this on YouTube since I haven't watched it, like what others say it wasn't a flop. Dillon Brooks just really wanted to save the play (ball) and the referee thought/saw that he was flopping for the pushing foul. That's the reason why he got the first technical foul. The reason he got the 2nd technical foul is because of his words to the referee. We know that having 2nd tech will toss out in the game. That 2nd tech was a soft move by the referee, especially considering there was less than a minute left in the game.

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1 more game and then Ja Morant will be back. Memphis Grizzlies is on their 4th losing streak and their record is bad at 6 wins and 18 losses.
Will Ja Morant be the answer to go back as a playoff contender?
Grizzlies will need a big contribution from him because they have been lacking in everything and they are undermanned.

Ja Morant reflects on his 25-game suspension ahead of season debut
https://www.nba.com/news/ja-morant-speaks-on-suspension-ahead-of-return-2023

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The Memphis Grizzlies point guard wouldn’t say he regrets being suspended by NBA Commissioner Adam Silver for the second time in the span of four months.

“In the end, I feel like it made me better,” Morant said. ”I feel like I learned some stuff about myself that I did during that process. Very eye-opening. It kind of gave me a new look on life. How I go about my days. How I carry myself.”

He can play Tuesday against the Pelicans if he is available.

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Morant said basketball has been his therapy throughout his life and that taking the game away made things tougher. He credited his family, the Grizzlies and others, including therapy, for helping him since Silver handed down Morant’s second suspension in mid-June.

“The change will be that my decision-making and how I go about my daily life … being the best Ja I can be,” Morant said.

I think this is a good learning point for him. He should keep in mind that he ain't a dude on the block anymore. Every decision he makes outside the basketball floor might affect his career. There are kids looking up to him, some of them might want to be like Ja when they grow up. A high-flying player who dunks on everyone and a leader of a team at his young age.

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“I’m not forcing a historic game my first game back,” Morant said.

What I miss more is to see him at every top 10 highlights of the week either with his high-flying 360 layups or his dunks. Time to play and I hope that will be the last mistake that he will make outside the NBA. I bet it will be a different punishment the next time he does something foolish.

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Looks like the Warriors doesn't miss Draymond at all, since he was out they were already in a 2 winning streak.

And because of his absence, this opens up more playing opportunity for Trayce Jackson-Davis, who has been playing well in their win against the TrailBlazers. Though I don't want to get myself too excited on the win since I know myself that Trailblazers is not a playoff team, but the Warriors despite Curry was struggling, his teammates were able to step up, specially his splash brother Klay who scored 28 points that game.

Good thing they managed to win. But it's not that significant knowing they won against mediocre teams. And the Warriors only won by slim margins. The real score will be known in their next game as they will be hosting the Boston Celtics. If they can win that game then it's a sign that there is hope even without Draymond.

If the Warriors can maintain a rank in the top 8, then they'll be fine even without Draymond. But they'll need Draymond during the playoff games. The deep experience, superb defense, and the ability to set up plays are just too good to be missed by the Warriors.

They only won against Brooklyn and Portland, and yes they might be a mediocre team, but those 2 wins might be the start of the team gaining momentum in their future games. In that game against Portland, we saw Wiggins and Thompson stepping up, and maybe this is the start of them gaining momentum in their future games... or not. Cheesy

I mean they're very inconsistent at the start of the season.

TBH, I don't know if they will win against the Celtics. They're on a 5 game-winning streak as well, and as for Draymond Green, just let him do his sh*t out there and just serve his indefinite suspension. If the Warriors will be playing better without him in the next games, that might be a sign for him to get traded to another team already. Kuminga might not be the same as Green in terms of defense, but what's good in Kuminga is he's very explosive, can help on offense, and an athletic player as well. Ohhh wait his young as well.

That two win give them a life since despite on those controversy they faced they still manage to win without Green on the rotation. For seeing Wiggins and Klay is having a impressive performance for that games then if they can sustain that maybe we can see a Warriors in champion form with that. If they can win against Boston without Green there then maybe its up to the management to decide if they want to take out the toxic player in their team and they focus to give a exposure to their rookies then train them to became more better player. They also have good talents so without Green Warriors can still able to compete.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on December 18, 2023, 04:59:09 AM

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Looks like the Warriors doesn't miss Draymond at all, since he was out they were already in a 2 winning streak.

And because of his absence, this opens up more playing opportunity for Trayce Jackson-Davis, who has been playing well in their win against the TrailBlazers. Though I don't want to get myself too excited on the win since I know myself that Trailblazers is not a playoff team, but the Warriors despite Curry was struggling, his teammates were able to step up, specially his splash brother Klay who scored 28 points that game.

Good thing they managed to win. But it's not that significant knowing they won against mediocre teams. And the Warriors only won by slim margins. The real score will be known in their next game as they will be hosting the Boston Celtics. If they can win that game then it's a sign that there is hope even without Draymond.

If the Warriors can maintain a rank in the top 8, then they'll be fine even without Draymond. But they'll need Draymond during the playoff games. The deep experience, superb defense, and the ability to set up plays are just too good to be missed by the Warriors.

They only won against Brooklyn and Portland, and yes they might be a mediocre team, but those 2 wins might be the start of the team gaining momentum in their future games. In that game against Portland, we saw Wiggins and Thompson stepping up, and maybe this is the start of them gaining momentum in their future games... or not. Cheesy

I mean they're very inconsistent at the start of the season.

TBH, I don't know if they will win against the Celtics. They're on a 5 game-winning streak as well, and as for Draymond Green, just let him do his sh*t out there and just serve his indefinite suspension. If the Warriors will be playing better without him in the next games, that might be a sign for him to get traded to another team already. Kuminga might not be the same as Green in terms of defense, but what's good in Kuminga is he's very explosive, can help on offense, and an athletic player as well. Ohhh wait his young as well.

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What are your thoughts on the flopping tech called on Dillon Brooks against the Bucks? The call looks ridiculous to me as it seems he was pushed while trying to save the ball. I don't see the flopping there. This is only the regular season so imagine getting erroneous decisions like this come playoff time.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on December 18, 2023, 04:59:09 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on December 18, 2023, 01:47:04 AM

Looks like the Warriors doesn't miss Draymond at all, since he was out they were already in a 2 winning streak.

And because of his absence, this opens up more playing opportunity for Trayce Jackson-Davis, who has been playing well in their win against the TrailBlazers. Though I don't want to get myself too excited on the win since I know myself that Trailblazers is not a playoff team, but the Warriors despite Curry was struggling, his teammates were able to step up, specially his splash brother Klay who scored 28 points that game.

Good thing they managed to win. But it's not that significant knowing they won against mediocre teams. And the Warriors only won by slim margins. The real score will be known in their next game as they will be hosting the Boston Celtics. If they can win that game then it's a sign that there is hope even without Draymond.

I'm doubtful about their chances of winning against the best team now in the NBA. Celtics are very conident now as they are enjoying a winning streak, the teams that they beat on their home court are much better than the current Warriors, so I believe the Warriors would really struggle.

I still remember when they have a losing streak on their home court when they lose to OKC, and Wolves twice, that's with Draymond Green, so without him, it's not worth trusting the Warriors. In addition, Boston might take this seriously as the Warriors are the team that beat them in the NBA Finals, they'll not gonna forget that.

Quote from: inthelongrun on December 18, 2023, 04:59:09 AM

If the Warriors can maintain a rank in the top 8, then they'll be fine even without Draymond. But they'll need Draymond during the playoff games. The deep experience, superb defense, and the ability to set up plays are just too good to be missed by the Warriors.

Surely they need Draymond Green as playoffs are a different atmosphere. With the Warriors experience, they'll beat a talented team that has less experience, just like what they did to the Kings last playoffs.

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Looks like the Warriors doesn't miss Draymond at all, since he was out they were already in a 2 winning streak.

And because of his absence, this opens up more playing opportunity for Trayce Jackson-Davis, who has been playing well in their win against the TrailBlazers. Though I don't want to get myself too excited on the win since I know myself that Trailblazers is not a playoff team, but the Warriors despite Curry was struggling, his teammates were able to step up, specially his splash brother Klay who scored 28 points that game.

Good thing they managed to win. But it's not that significant knowing they won against mediocre teams. And the Warriors only won by slim margins. The real score will be known in their next game as they will be hosting the Boston Celtics. If they can win that game then it's a sign that there is hope even without Draymond.

If the Warriors can maintain a rank in the top 8, then they'll be fine even without Draymond. But they'll need Draymond during the playoff games. The deep experience, superb defense, and the ability to set up plays are just too good to be missed by the Warriors.

Yeah, right, Draymond's experienced and leadership boost the team up, just need to adjust with such emotion and bring back the old ways
I mean just play the game the way it should be.

I personally think that Draymond is already eaten by pride and the mindset that he's already a superstar that can do anything and he can escape
to any damage that might result to his action, but that's not what happened the last time.

He needs that focus to listen to any counselling that he will get from NBA and GSW's management. No doubt the team needs him
but it should be the career-oriented Draymond and not the kind of attitude he has right now.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on December 18, 2023, 01:47:04 AM

Looks like the Warriors doesn't miss Draymond at all, since he was out they were already in a 2 winning streak.

And because of his absence, this opens up more playing opportunity for Trayce Jackson-Davis, who has been playing well in their win against the TrailBlazers. Though I don't want to get myself too excited on the win since I know myself that Trailblazers is not a playoff team, but the Warriors despite Curry was struggling, his teammates were able to step up, specially his splash brother Klay who scored 28 points that game.

Good thing they managed to win. But it's not that significant knowing they won against mediocre teams. And the Warriors only won by slim margins. The real score will be known in their next game as they will be hosting the Boston Celtics. If they can win that game then it's a sign that there is hope even without Draymond.

If the Warriors can maintain a rank in the top 8, then they'll be fine even without Draymond. But they'll need Draymond during the playoff games. The deep experience, superb defense, and the ability to set up plays are just too good to be missed by the Warriors.

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The Boston Celtics are the first team to reach 20 wins this season by successfully and easily beating Orlando Magic and this will be a message for them and a chance to improve their play because there will be a higher chance that they could meet up in the NBA playoffs and the same scenario could happen unless they find a way to stop Tatum and Brown offense. Just like that, we are now a few months away from NBA all-stars week, and after that, the real game begins for the playoff teams.

Yes, we are in a time of the season that we can have quite a clear view on the teams and how their season can finish. And Boston made a clear impact. The team has a stronger starting 5 than we have seen in the nba for a long time. I don't think there could be many better starting 5s in today's cap conditions. If lillard-giannis duo doesn't work out, they'll win the east probably very easily, they're too strong. They still need a leading, veteran scorer on the bench. If they add a veteran player who can score when the game gets tight in the playoffs, it's a done deal.

Yes, so far the Celtics are the most consistent team in the East now. Among the 3 teams, (Celtics, Bucks, and Sixers), It's the Celtics that will likely win the competition, but only if we are not including other teams such as the Miami Heat. The good thing with the Celtics this season is that they made a great changes on their line up, adding Porzi was a good thing as they were able to acquire additional size and offense from him, and good thing also because he is a good team player.

As we can see ; https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/porzikr01.html... his average have dropped compared to last season but his impact to the team is very positive, so I think Porzi probably had found a team that could give him the ultimate success in basketball, and that is to win a championship.

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Quote from: yazher on December 17, 2023, 05:55:44 PM

The Boston Celtics are the first team to reach 20 wins this season by successfully and easily beating Orlando Magic and this will be a message for them and a chance to improve their play because there will be a higher chance that they could meet up in the NBA playoffs and the same scenario could happen unless they find a way to stop Tatum and Brown offense. Just like that, we are now a few months away from NBA all-stars week, and after that, the real game begins for the playoff teams.

Yes, we are in a time of the season that we can have quite a clear view on the teams and how their season can finish. And Boston made a clear impact. The team has a stronger starting 5 than we have seen in the nba for a long time. I don't think there could be many better starting 5s in today's cap conditions. If lillard-giannis duo doesn't work out, they'll win the east probably very easily, they're too strong. They still need a leading, veteran scorer on the bench. If they add a veteran player who can score when the game gets tight in the playoffs, it's a done deal.

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Looks like the Warriors doesn't miss Draymond at all, since he was out they were already in a 2 winning streak.

And because of his absence, this opens up more playing opportunity for Trayce Jackson-Davis, who has been playing well in their win against the TrailBlazers. Though I don't want to get myself too excited on the win since I know myself that Trailblazers is not a playoff team, but the Warriors despite Curry was struggling, his teammates were able to step up, specially his splash brother Klay who scored 28 points that game.

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Quote from: EFS on December 17, 2023, 05:59:57 PM

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The Boston Celtics are the first team to reach 20 wins this season by successfully and easily beating Orlando Magic and this will be a message for them and a chance to improve their play because there will be a higher chance that they could meet up in the NBA playoffs and the same scenario could happen unless they find a way to stop Tatum and Brown offense. Just like that, we are now a few months away from NBA all-stars week, and after that, the real game begins for the playoff teams.

Celtics beat Magic back to back. Magic was one of the thoughest teams in the East but Celtics show them they are not at same level. I see only Sixers as a competition for Celtics.
As for All-Stars, Tatum and Brown will definitely be in there, but I think Porzingis also should be in the discussion. His stats are pretty good lately.

Yes, so far celtics and Sixers the teams that are showing some great consistency, but don't count the Bucks yes, especially the Miami Heat as they were the team that made suprises last playoffs. With Jimmy Butler's being healthy, they are still a big threat even if they will not end up with a good standing, remember they were the defending ECF champions.

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Quote from: agustina2 on December 15, 2023, 04:19:08 PM

No offense to Warriors fans but that was a long time ago. The efficiency of Draymond Green in terms of defense way back during the Warriors rode to stardom isn't present now. Draymond Green is proven to be useless without the Splash brothers alongside the court. It does mean that he's not perfectly blend well to other Warriors players.

Regardless if he's going to be ban or not, the Warriors defense are just on usual and will just follow Kerr's mechanism. Regarding on that recent flagrant incident involving him, I really don't understand why he never changed since then lol. He's now becoming a veteran player at least he should show maturity on the court.

For sure Draymond Green deserves Punishment because of what he did with all of the fiasco he has recently, the Sabonis Stomping, the Gobert headlock, and the Nurkic's hitting, he really deserves it and I agree that he should be mature enough to accept all of those what the other players is doing against him and you are right as a veteran he should be the one to adjust with the situation,

But does that get him to accept all of those offensive things that the other players are doing, maybe? for me, the NBA should also see the little things that are happening as well,

Quote from: OgNasty on December 15, 2023, 07:27:45 PM

The interesting thing to me about Draymond Green’s suspension is that it is indefinite. I can’t recall ever seeing the NBA do this type of suspension before. I think it’s a good thing as long as he doesn’t come back next week and I think it shows the league actually cares about his mental health a bit. I also think if they suspended him longer for the Gobert choking, this may have been avoided.

For some reason, people are now pointing out the mental health of Draymond Green because I think many just want Draymond Green to not return as the Golden State Warriors are still in the 5th spot of the most defensive play a team in the NBA, and for sure if the defense of the Warriors gets depleted because of Draymond Green's suspension I think the other teams would surely like that to happen,

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 17, 2023, 05:20:51 PM

I saw an interesting stat about the Lakers playing without their stars... They are 0-2 now after the recent loss to San Antonio without Anthony Davis. At the same time, they are 2-0 without LeBron James. This certainly leads one to believe that Anthony Davis is important to the Lakers, maybe even moreso than LeBron James. Interesting to note that in both scenarios they played the Spurs and even in the game they won (without LeBron James), they barely squeaked by with a win. This makes me think the problems with the Lakers are less about talent, and more about motivation. The win in the tournament also supports that.

Sometimes they got overshadowed by Lebron since he always stole the show that's why maybe it can motivate other to do more better because they know that they cannot take the credits once Lakers will have a great performance.

That's why maybe that's the reason they get good without Lebron and they are more better with Davis on the court. But guess this is just assumption and on other thoughts it will matter on how their coach rotate its player since they can be better if used well in good plays also right combination of players. We see how good they are on im season tournament and they just need to sustain that.

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Quote from: yazher on December 17, 2023, 05:55:44 PM

The Boston Celtics are the first team to reach 20 wins this season by successfully and easily beating Orlando Magic and this will be a message for them and a chance to improve their play because there will be a higher chance that they could meet up in the NBA playoffs and the same scenario could happen unless they find a way to stop Tatum and Brown offense. Just like that, we are now a few months away from NBA all-stars week, and after that, the real game begins for the playoff teams.

Celtics beat Magic back to back. Magic was one of the thoughest teams in the East but Celtics show them they are not at same level. I see only Sixers as a competition for Celtics.
As for All-Stars, Tatum and Brown will definitely be in there, but I think Porzingis also should be in the discussion. His stats are pretty good lately.

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The Boston Celtics are the first team to reach 20 wins this season by successfully and easily beating Orlando Magic and this will be a message for them and a chance to improve their play because there will be a higher chance that they could meet up in the NBA playoffs and the same scenario could happen unless they find a way to stop Tatum and Brown offense. Just like that, we are now a few months away from NBA all-stars week, and after that, the real game begins for the playoff teams.

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