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Quote from: Dave1 on October 11, 2023, 09:27:04 PM

Quote from: danherbias07 on October 11, 2023, 10:30:18 AM

Ouch! Flagrant foul in preseason?
I just finished watching the replay of that part and it was obvious it was an unnecessary contact. He can get away from the screen but he still left his hand swinging at the man part of Theiss.
I was surprised though, at the Flagrant 2 that was given, flagrant 1 should be enough to teach him a lesson. It looks like the referee assigned knows his history and this will hurt Dillon Brooks' reputation. Next time he must be careful at every move he makes because the referee will definitely call the same thing even if it's not excessive.
Very bad impression on his debut and I bet there will be a fine for this act.

It's because Brooks has this reputation, this kind of cheap shots, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w3TJoakGtk.

So it's almost similar in fashion, and so the call is flagrant-2 as well so he was ejected.

For sure, the referee are looking closely on Brooks antics in this season as they wanted to established tougher penalties for any cheap foul.

And that should be the right call to protect the players from such unnecessary contacts, otherwise players like Brooks will gonna have to do it over and over again until someone will get a season ending injury or worse a career ending ones.
I have to admit also as to what I have noticed that the NBA impose stricter calls if it happens to a superstar, simply because the NBA benefited from their value.
And, then there's these people an NBA fan from the 90's era who has yet to moved on from physicalities, calling it soft when they don't even understand what good basketball is from the dirty ones.

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Quote from: Questat on October 11, 2023, 10:21:41 PM

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Quote from: xLays on October 11, 2023, 09:16:02 PM

I'm surprised that the Celtics starting players including Jrue Holiday and Kristaps Porzingis played over 40 minutes in today's NBA preseason game. It seems like they're treating this as their official warmup for the upcoming NBA season, as typically in the preseason Star players only average around 20 minutes per game.

Who the fuck is this guy Dalano Banton played 40 min with 0 points. Lmao

Against? Are you talking about their game against the Sixers where they won? I tried to find the game where both Holiday, and Porzingis played for 40 minutes, and I can't find any of their last 3 pre-season games. Like you said already, most of the stars are playing only for at least 20 minutes or even lesser, to prevent getting injured. At the same time, this pre-season is the perfect time for those role players to step up, and put themselves in the rotation of the team.

I also did a quick search on how many minutes this Banton guy played, and the most is 30 minutes against the Knicks. I don't also know what game are you saying where he played 40 minutes with 0 points. Share it here.

TBH, I'm not watching these pre-season games since most of the stars aren't playing. I'd rather wait for the regular season to start. Wink

That would be more exciting to watch.

Against the Sixers. It appears there might have been an issue with the NBA Preseason stats on Google since I made that post.
I was originally planning to post this image when I saw the current stats of that game.

This is what I saw when I checked the current statistics for that game in Google NBA preason Stat: My bad. Didn't actually watch the game.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/12/RtrcT.png

The minutes played are just ridiculously high, which is a glaring red flag. These are seasoned players, and we're well aware of their scoring prowess. It's baffling to see them clocking over 40 minutes on the court and still managing to put up less than 20 points. That's when you really start questioning the accuracy of the stats.

Here's another alternative, i think they logged the correct statistics.
https://www.covers.com/sport/basketball/nba/boxscore/290222

It's great to see Porzingis and Holiday performing well, both contributing 11 points in just 17 minutes of playing time. Hopefully, their chemistry will continue to develop, especially considering the talent-packed roster this team has. The confidence is palpable, especially after multiple playoff appearances and a run to the Finals, even if they fell short against the Warriors. I'd say this lineup is an improvement, as they now have a strong presence in the paint with Porzi, and Horford tends to heat up during the playoffs as well.

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Quote from: xLays on October 11, 2023, 10:15:06 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 11, 2023, 09:42:03 PM

Quote from: xLays on October 11, 2023, 09:16:02 PM

I'm surprised that the Celtics starting players including Jrue Holiday and Kristaps Porzingis played over 40 minutes in today's NBA preseason game. It seems like they're treating this as their official warmup for the upcoming NBA season, as typically in the preseason Star players only average around 20 minutes per game.

Who the fuck is this guy Dalano Banton played 40 min with 0 points. Lmao

Against? Are you talking about their game against the Sixers where they won? I tried to find the game where both Holiday, and Porzingis played for 40 minutes, and I can't find any of their last 3 pre-season games. Like you said already, most of the stars are playing only for at least 20 minutes or even lesser, to prevent getting injured. At the same time, this pre-season is the perfect time for those role players to step up, and put themselves in the rotation of the team.

I also did a quick search on how many minutes this Banton guy played, and the most is 30 minutes against the Knicks. I don't also know what game are you saying where he played 40 minutes with 0 points. Share it here.

TBH, I'm not watching these pre-season games since most of the stars aren't playing. I'd rather wait for the regular season to start. Wink

That would be more exciting to watch.

Against the Sixers. It appears there might have been an issue with the NBA Preseason stats on Google since I made that post.
I was originally planning to post this image when I saw the current stats of that game.

This is what I saw when I checked the current statistics for that game in Google NBA preason Stat: My bad. Didn't actually watch the game.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/12/RtrcT.png

The minutes played are just ridiculously high, which is a glaring red flag. These are seasoned players, and we're well aware of their scoring prowess. It's baffling to see them clocking over 40 minutes on the court and still managing to put up less than 20 points. That's when you really start questioning the accuracy of the stats.

Here's another alternative, i think they logged the correct statistics.
https://www.covers.com/sport/basketball/nba/boxscore/290222

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 11, 2023, 09:42:03 PM

Quote from: xLays on October 11, 2023, 09:16:02 PM

I'm surprised that the Celtics starting players including Jrue Holiday and Kristaps Porzingis played over 40 minutes in today's NBA preseason game. It seems like they're treating this as their official warmup for the upcoming NBA season, as typically in the preseason Star players only average around 20 minutes per game.

Who the fuck is this guy Dalano Banton played 40 min with 0 points. Lmao

Against? Are you talking about their game against the Sixers where they won? I tried to find the game where both Holiday, and Porzingis played for 40 minutes, and I can't find any of their last 3 pre-season games. Like you said already, most of the stars are playing only for at least 20 minutes or even lesser, to prevent getting injured. At the same time, this pre-season is the perfect time for those role players to step up, and put themselves in the rotation of the team.

I also did a quick search on how many minutes this Banton guy played, and the most is 30 minutes against the Knicks. I don't also know what game are you saying where he played 40 minutes with 0 points. Share it here.

TBH, I'm not watching these pre-season games since most of the stars aren't playing. I'd rather wait for the regular season to start. Wink

That would be more exciting to watch.

Against the Sixers. It appears there might have been an issue with the NBA Preseason stats on Google since I made that post.
I was originally planning to post this image when I saw the current stats of that game.

This is what I saw when I checked the current statistics for that game in Google NBA preason Stat: My bad. Didn't actually watch the game.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/12/RtrcT.png

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 11, 2023, 09:42:03 PM

Quote from: xLays on October 11, 2023, 09:16:02 PM

I'm surprised that the Celtics starting players including Jrue Holiday and Kristaps Porzingis played over 40 minutes in today's NBA preseason game. It seems like they're treating this as their official warmup for the upcoming NBA season, as typically in the preseason Star players only average around 20 minutes per game.

Who the fuck is this guy Dalano Banton played 40 min with 0 points. Lmao

Against? Are you talking about their game against the Sixers where they won? I tried to find the game where both Holiday, and Porzingis played for 40 minutes, and I can't find any of their last 3 pre-season games. Like you said already, most of the stars are playing only for at least 20 minutes or even lesser, to prevent getting injured. At the same time, this pre-season is the perfect time for those role players to step up, and put themselves in the rotation of the team.

I also did a quick search on how many minutes this Banton guy played, and the most is 30 minutes against the Knicks. I don't also know what game are you saying where he played 40 minutes with 0 points. Share it here.

TBH, I'm not watching these pre-season games since most of the stars aren't playing. I'd rather wait for the regular season to start. Wink

That would be more exciting to watch.

I watched all their games in the preseason and this is definitely wrong.
Both played a combined 40minutes over the 2 games the played in.

So I don't know where xLays stats are coming from, haha.

Also I checked about Banton, he played 13, 30 and 16 minutes in the 3 games, never 40. He only had 0 points today in the 16min game, shooting 0/3 from the field.

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Quote from: xLays on October 11, 2023, 09:16:02 PM

I'm surprised that the Celtics starting players including Jrue Holiday and Kristaps Porzingis played over 40 minutes in today's NBA preseason game. It seems like they're treating this as their official warmup for the upcoming NBA season, as typically in the preseason Star players only average around 20 minutes per game.

Who the fuck is this guy Dalano Banton played 40 min with 0 points. Lmao

Against? Are you talking about their game against the Sixers where they won? I tried to find the game where both Holiday, and Porzingis played for 40 minutes, and I can't find any of their last 3 pre-season games. Like you said already, most of the stars are playing only for at least 20 minutes or even lesser, to prevent getting injured. At the same time, this pre-season is the perfect time for those role players to step up, and put themselves in the rotation of the team.

I also did a quick search on how many minutes this Banton guy played, and the most is 30 minutes against the Knicks. I don't also know what game are you saying where he played 40 minutes with 0 points. Share it here.

TBH, I'm not watching these pre-season games since most of the stars aren't playing. I'd rather wait for the regular season to start. Wink

That would be more exciting to watch.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 11, 2023, 10:30:18 AM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on October 11, 2023, 05:12:48 AM

Don't forget Madrid vs Dallas, really close game and Madrid with the nice win.
Without Luka and Kyrie of course it's not an easy take for the Mavs, but glad the people in Madrid were able to see a close game with their home team ending up winning.

Oh yeah, I missed that game. Nice win for Madrid. And I am glad to see Rudy Fernandez still playing at 38 years old. Cheesy

Quote from: Baofeng on October 11, 2023, 07:46:34 AM

Lol, what a start for Dillon Brooks as a Rockets,

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On Tuesday, the Rockets opened their preseason schedule against the Indiana Pacers. Brooks started the game at small forward, but exactly four minutes and 33 seconds into the game, he was whistled for a foul after hitting Pacers big man Daniel Theis in the midsection. It was eventually ruled a flagrant-2 foul, and Brooks was ejected fewer than five minutes into his Houston debut.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/dillon-brooks-gets-ejected-five-minutes-into-his-rockets-debut-for-hit-on-daniel-theis/

I guess he won't change a bit regardless of what team he will be. I remember he did one to Lebron as well in the playoffs if I'm not mistaken. So his name has this kind of reputation already as a dirty player and it could be detrimental for the Rockets in the long run.

Ouch! Flagrant foul in preseason?
I just finished watching the replay of that part and it was obvious it was an unnecessary contact. He can get away from the screen but he still left his hand swinging at the man part of Theiss.
I was surprised though, at the Flagrant 2 that was given, flagrant 1 should be enough to teach him a lesson. It looks like the referee assigned knows his history and this will hurt Dillon Brooks' reputation. Next time he must be careful at every move he makes because the referee will definitely call the same thing even if it's not excessive.
Very bad impression on his debut and I bet there will be a fine for this act.

It's because Brooks has this reputation, this kind of cheap shots, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w3TJoakGtk.

So it's almost similar in fashion, and so the call is flagrant-2 as well so he was ejected.

For sure, the referee are looking closely on Brooks antics in this season as they wanted to established tougher penalties for any cheap foul.

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I'm surprised that the Celtics starting players including Jrue Holiday and Kristaps Porzingis played over 40 minutes in today's NBA preseason game. It seems like they're treating this as their official warmup for the upcoming NBA season, as typically in the preseason Star players only average around 20 minutes per game.

Who the fuck is this guy Dalano Banton played 40 min with 0 points. Lmao

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on October 11, 2023, 06:35:50 PM

What does he do when his contract runs out? When nobody wants to pay him big money because he can only play 20% of the season? When his money runs out?

Players need to think of their future rather than only thinking of the present.

Zion currently has a contract with the Pelicans for $197 million that only expires after the 27/28 season. So, if he really doesn't care much about his future career and legacy in the NBA, he can just chill out for a few more seasons.
Honestly, I don't really follow what's going on in Zion's life, but if he's not particularly wasteful and knows the basics of money management, then even one contract like that is enough to keep him self-sufficient for the rest of his life.

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Honestly, this dude made more money already then majority of the world won't make during all of their life time, and that is still a good thing. Zion could be overweight (although he looks a bit slimmed down this summer) and he could be injured all the time, but even with all of that, he made insane amount of money so far. Even players like Greg Oden who didn't play much at all, ended up with a great amount of money if the invested it smartly. Maybe not enough to serve them a life time, but good amount, on Zions case, he made enough money to live a life time with it without ever working again. So if his contract his over, I am %100 sure that someone will get him, probably will be renewed as well, but if not, someone else will, and if even that doesn't happen (which I consider impossible) he could simply just play overseas. He can do whatever he wants, and he knows it, not everyone has that Kobe mindset, some just get paid and have fun and do whatever they want.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on October 11, 2023, 01:24:07 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on October 10, 2023, 09:28:15 PM

I disagree that it isn't his fault. If he was constantly working to keep his body conditioned and in shape, he wouldn't always start the season overweight. All the added weight wears and tears on his joints and muscles leading to injury.

The guy is only worried about getting paid and getting laid.

Of course, being overweight can harm any NBA player's knees because the regular season schedule is too busy, and players have very little time to rest. In Zion's case, being overweight is one of the main reasons why he is so injury-prone. However, I don't rule out the possibility that Zion is fine with it and has no motivation to change anything since he already has a huge contract with the Pelicans.

What does he do when his contract runs out? When nobody wants to pay him big money because he can only play 20% of the season? When his money runs out?

Players need to think of their future rather than only thinking of the present.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on October 11, 2023, 05:12:48 AM

Don't forget Madrid vs Dallas, really close game and Madrid with the nice win.
Without Luka and Kyrie of course it's not an easy take for the Mavs, but glad the people in Madrid were able to see a close game with their home team ending up winning.

I just checked and now the total score is 161 wins for NBA teams in international competition, in 180 games. Actually I am surprised because I thought there would have been less wins for the non NBA teams.
By the way, there was only 1 win of a non European team, the Adelaide 36ers beat the Phoenix Suns 134–124 last year.

That was definitely fun to watch. When games like this happens, and euroleague teams end up winning, people think that euroleague teams could play in the nba as well, or at least they could just be hanging in there if you put in the winners. The reality is very different, there are two reasons for that.

First of all, this was a preseason game where people didn't care, when it matters NBA teams will not even joke around and they will destroy any euroleague team, even the champions, secondly there is tanking, which means that euroleague teams could get wins, maybe even as high as 30 wins, only if they want to win too, because there will be NBA teams who try to lose, their entire season is just to get draft picks and that's an important deal. Look at Spurs, they literally got worse just to get Wemby, and that type of thing matters a lot since it means that they will be able to get better after getting worse. So all in all, this win means nothing, but it definitely feels very entertaining.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on October 11, 2023, 01:28:49 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on October 10, 2023, 01:08:01 PM

I don’t know who at ESPN is doing their NBA rankings and predictions but I wish I could bet against them. After the horrible take on the Bucks upcoming season, they’re now saying that Zion Williamson is the 57th best player in the NBA. I could maybe see calling him the 20th, but 57th? If he plays in even 50 games this year he’ll likely be an MVP candidate…

Well I mean what do you expect. I'm sure it's no surprise to you that ESPN has been going down hill for decades now. Remember when SportsCenter used to be this great show we all look forward to that actually just gave out sports news? Now we have to listen to clowns like Kendrick Perkins and Stephan A Smith babble about utter nonsense.

Honestly I stopped watching ESPN years ago, I can't take them seriously.

That’s fair. I remember as a teenager I probably watched sportscenter 2 or 3 times a day. Now I honestly couldn’t tell you the last time I saw it. I do still respect their posts on social media, but you’re right that ESPN has been following the same go broke trend as the rest of Disney’s properties. I just watch YouTube game highlight recaps now.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 10, 2023, 01:08:01 PM

I don’t know who at ESPN is doing their NBA rankings and predictions but I wish I could bet against them. After the horrible take on the Bucks upcoming season, they’re now saying that Zion Williamson is the 57th best player in the NBA. I could maybe see calling him the 20th, but 57th? If he plays in even 50 games this year he’ll likely be an MVP candidate…

Well I mean what do you expect. I'm sure it's no surprise to you that ESPN has been going down hill for decades now. Remember when SportsCenter used to be this great show we all look forward to that actually just gave out sports news? Now we have to listen to clowns like Kendrick Perkins and Stephan A Smith babble about utter nonsense.

Honestly I stopped watching ESPN years ago, I can't take them seriously.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on October 10, 2023, 09:28:15 PM

I disagree that it isn't his fault. If he was constantly working to keep his body conditioned and in shape, he wouldn't always start the season overweight. All the added weight wears and tears on his joints and muscles leading to injury.

The guy is only worried about getting paid and getting laid.

Of course, being overweight can harm any NBA player's knees because the regular season schedule is too busy, and players have very little time to rest. In Zion's case, being overweight is one of the main reasons why he is so injury-prone. However, I don't rule out the possibility that Zion is fine with it and has no motivation to change anything since he already has a huge contract with the Pelicans.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on October 11, 2023, 05:12:48 AM

Don't forget Madrid vs Dallas, really close game and Madrid with the nice win.
Without Luka and Kyrie of course it's not an easy take for the Mavs, but glad the people in Madrid were able to see a close game with their home team ending up winning.

Oh yeah, I missed that game. Nice win for Madrid. And I am glad to see Rudy Fernandez still playing at 38 years old. Cheesy

Quote from: Baofeng on October 11, 2023, 07:46:34 AM

Lol, what a start for Dillon Brooks as a Rockets,

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On Tuesday, the Rockets opened their preseason schedule against the Indiana Pacers. Brooks started the game at small forward, but exactly four minutes and 33 seconds into the game, he was whistled for a foul after hitting Pacers big man Daniel Theis in the midsection. It was eventually ruled a flagrant-2 foul, and Brooks was ejected fewer than five minutes into his Houston debut.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/dillon-brooks-gets-ejected-five-minutes-into-his-rockets-debut-for-hit-on-daniel-theis/

I guess he won't change a bit regardless of what team he will be. I remember he did one to Lebron as well in the playoffs if I'm not mistaken. So his name has this kind of reputation already as a dirty player and it could be detrimental for the Rockets in the long run.

Ouch! Flagrant foul in preseason?
I just finished watching the replay of that part and it was obvious it was an unnecessary contact. He can get away from the screen but he still left his hand swinging at the man part of Theiss.
I was surprised though, at the Flagrant 2 that was given, flagrant 1 should be enough to teach him a lesson. It looks like the referee assigned knows his history and this will hurt Dillon Brooks' reputation. Next time he must be careful at every move he makes because the referee will definitely call the same thing even if it's not excessive.
Very bad impression on his debut and I bet there will be a fine for this act.

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Quote from: Yogee on October 11, 2023, 08:44:53 AM

He didn't liked being sandwiched by Theis in the previous play so he took his revenge on the next play. It's a well disguised hit on the nuts and it honestly doesn't look like a "dirty" foul without the replay. Appreciate the refs for sending a strong message as early as preseason and hopefully they apply the same rules to players like Draymond.

He's already a marked man; everyone is aware of his reputation. Even if a player slightly exaggerates contact, the referees will blow the whistle right away. He's familiar with that kind of scrutiny, so he shouldn't keep adding to his bad reputation, as it could potentially come back to haunt him in a significant way one day. I recall back when he was still with Memphis, they used to label Draymond as a dirty player. So, what are they calling Brook now?

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on October 10, 2023, 09:28:15 PM

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The guy is only worried about getting paid and getting laid.

Hehe spot on. He's young and "adventurous" so he became careless.

Quote from: Baofeng on October 11, 2023, 07:46:34 AM

Lol, what a start for Dillon Brooks as a Rockets,

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On Tuesday, the Rockets opened their preseason schedule against the Indiana Pacers. Brooks started the game at small forward, but exactly four minutes and 33 seconds into the game, he was whistled for a foul after hitting Pacers big man Daniel Theis in the midsection. It was eventually ruled a flagrant-2 foul, and Brooks was ejected fewer than five minutes into his Houston debut.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/dillon-brooks-gets-ejected-five-minutes-into-his-rockets-debut-for-hit-on-daniel-theis/

I guess he won't change a bit regardless of what team he will be. I remember he did one to Lebron as well in the playoffs if I'm not mistaken. So his name has this kind of reputation already as a dirty player and it could be detrimental for the Rockets in the long run.

He didn't liked being sandwiched by Theis in the previous play so he took his revenge on the next play. It's a well disguised hit on the nuts and it honestly doesn't look like a "dirty" foul without the replay. Appreciate the refs for sending a strong message as early as preseason and hopefully they apply the same rules to players like Draymond.

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 11, 2023, 07:46:34 AM

Lol, what a start for Dillon Brooks as a Rockets,

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On Tuesday, the Rockets opened their preseason schedule against the Indiana Pacers. Brooks started the game at small forward, but exactly four minutes and 33 seconds into the game, he was whistled for a foul after hitting Pacers big man Daniel Theis in the midsection. It was eventually ruled a flagrant-2 foul, and Brooks was ejected fewer than five minutes into his Houston debut.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/dillon-brooks-gets-ejected-five-minutes-into-his-rockets-debut-for-hit-on-daniel-theis/

I guess he won't change a bit regardless of what team he will be. I remember he did one to Lebron as well in the playoffs if I'm not mistaken. So his name has this kind of reputation already as a dirty player and it could be detrimental for the Rockets in the long run.

Perhaps he's still nursing a grudge from the FIBA World Cup, you know, when Germany, with Daniel Theis, bested them. When it comes to Brooks, it's tough to put all your chips on him completely changing his style. He's got his unique brand, and he's carried it with him from the Rockets. Hopefully, he'll be able to put on a show against players like Draymond Green and Pat Bev, so he can find what he's really looking for.

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Lol, what a start for Dillon Brooks as a Rockets,

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On Tuesday, the Rockets opened their preseason schedule against the Indiana Pacers. Brooks started the game at small forward, but exactly four minutes and 33 seconds into the game, he was whistled for a foul after hitting Pacers big man Daniel Theis in the midsection. It was eventually ruled a flagrant-2 foul, and Brooks was ejected fewer than five minutes into his Houston debut.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/dillon-brooks-gets-ejected-five-minutes-into-his-rockets-debut-for-hit-on-daniel-theis/

I guess he won't change a bit regardless of what team he will be. I remember he did one to Lebron as well in the playoffs if I'm not mistaken. So his name has this kind of reputation already as a dirty player and it could be detrimental for the Rockets in the long run.

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