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November 15, 2023, 10:19:19 PM
Anyway, tonight we are going to see the Suns finally playing their big 3 together. They'll be facing the Wolves, and let's see if they can start a winning streak. Currently, they are on a 2-game losing streak, but it should end tonight.

It looks like this may be an easy win for the Suns, as they already lead by 22 points after the end of the first half. By the way, Durant has already scored 17 points, and Booker has scored 18 points. The other Suns players are also performing well, while the Wolves have only KAT and Edwards, who are trying to do something against them.
EFS
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November 15, 2023, 10:08:47 PM
Both teams played last minutes awful, except Jalen Brunson. Knicks got the win in the end. That was important when they play without Barrett. Randle and Quickley were okay. Hawks may have the deepest rotation in the league as Saddiq Bey said but this wasn't enough tonight. Bogdanovic had a good night, he had a fairly good chance to go overtime but that shot selection was pretty bad.
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November 15, 2023, 09:47:39 PM
I missed betting on the Celtics and the Sixers game but it has turned to be another good match. Boston about to extend their win streak to 4.

Looks like the NBA made the decision to suspend Draymond for 5 games for his choke on Rudy Gobert. Honestly, I was expecting at least a 6 game suspension, but the NBA is pretty lenient when it comes to fighting (in my opinion). Draymond has a long history of this though, so I would’ve liked to have seen him get a little bit longer of a suspension.
Fair enough, what he did was unacceptable, so he has to learn a lesson from that. Now, the Warriors will struggle more as they lose one of their key players. Draymond should have thought of that before he made that stupid choking gesture.
I had to laugh at the "learn a lesson". I mean how many lessons is he going to learn from since he's had plenty of altercations already. I bet the guy wouldn't change and I don't expect him to move smarter now that he's almost nearing the end of his career.

I also think 5 games is fair. Everything happening in real time and I believe he acted accordingly but his mistake was he held that choke for too long. He should have released that after Gobert released his hold on Klay.
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November 15, 2023, 09:24:56 PM
Looks like the NBA made the decision to suspend Draymond for 5 games for his choke on Rudy Gobert. Honestly, I was expecting at least a 6 game suspension, but the NBA is pretty lenient when it comes to fighting (in my opinion). Draymond has a long history of this though, so I would’ve liked to have seen him get a little bit longer of a suspension.
Fair enough, what he did was unacceptable, so he has to learn a lesson from that. Now, the Warriors will struggle more as they lose one of their key players. Draymond should have thought of that before he made that stupid choking gesture.



Anyway, tonight we are going to see the Suns finally playing their big 3 together. They'll be facing the Wolves, and let's see if they can start a winning streak. Currently, they are on a 2-game losing streak, but it should end tonight.
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November 15, 2023, 09:21:20 PM
Looks like the NBA made the decision to suspend Draymond for 5 games for his choke on Rudy Gobert. Honestly, I was expecting at least a 6 game suspension, but the NBA is pretty lenient when it comes to fighting (in my opinion). Draymond has a long history of this though, so I would’ve liked to have seen him get a little bit longer of a suspension.
I think that's fair though, 5 games is enough for Draymond to be out and think about the consequences of his action if he really wanted to help the Warriors to be great again. He has a lot of technical fouls already and being a veteran, he should have known better that this kind of actions are not going to help them specially that they have been struggling as of late.

Is that true that James Harden wanted out of the Clippers in just 5 games? or is this a rumor? That's a waste of money from the Clippers trying to get him or even in the part of Sixers to execute that trade because Harden wanted out of them. Anyhow, I don't think that this is true though, not defending Harden but maybe there are people just trying to create negative news about him.
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November 15, 2023, 08:54:51 PM
Looks like the NBA made the decision to suspend Draymond for 5 games for his choke on Rudy Gobert. Honestly, I was expecting at least a 6 game suspension, but the NBA is pretty lenient when it comes to fighting (in my opinion). Draymond has a long history of this though, so I would’ve liked to have seen him get a little bit longer of a suspension.
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November 15, 2023, 08:32:52 PM
TBH, this rumor is huge. Just after 5 games, he wants to get out of the Clippers already? Like I said, I will not be surprised if no other team wants him anymore after his contract this season because of attitude problems. It's my first time hearing that the Saudi Pro League wants him to play, and it's funny. Cheesy
Who was that guy in the Mavs that commentated about this thing with Harden? He just said the reality of what should sink in with Harden. This is an attitude problem that teams shouldn't condone. If he wants already out of the team after just few games, he's messing around and soon it won't be surprising if no teams want to take him.

I remember some players that have retired because no teams want to take them anymore and he could be on that position as well as his retirement will go too early. But even with that, he'll just take the money with him and the contract until it expires. I'm not sure if the $900M deal is also for real in Saudi Arabia.

But it seems that it's just like a bluff because of how fun it is going with Harden. Honestly, there are two players in my eyes that are becoming the memes material these days, one is Harden, second is Poole.
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November 15, 2023, 07:58:51 PM
Teams take time to get a flow going. They may lose 10 and something click and they go on a streak. Denver is red hot but they took a loss tonight too, nothing is guaranteed.

You're damn right. Teams take time to really get together, if they must win games then they must get to bond.
Most games might be lost in the process of bonding or while they're yet to get to know themselves and especially when they have new team mates but once they've consolidated, they might play with the same team as yesterday and give them good class lessons.
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November 15, 2023, 06:59:34 PM
When we are talking about "fighting" in NBA, not that many players throw punches, this is as hardcore as it gets. Draymond Green didn't do himself justice by keeping Gobert in headlock for that long, I understand wanting to protect your teammate, but you should just push or hold somewhere else, like grab Gobert by the waist and pull him away, that could make sense, there were many other players there that separated the fight, none of them did a headlock, look at all the players on the court, they are all trying to separate Klay but nobody gave another player headlock, that's not how it works.

Draymond "may" had the good intentions, like protect your friend, but headlock, and for that long, wasn't the way to do it. It's famously known that Draymond is a dirty player, he was the reason why Warriors lost a whole title, because he kept on kicking others, dude is a dirty player through and through, and this was one of those moments when he did what he does, and I hope he gets at least a few games suspension.
Was interested in this game last night since I had a wager on the under and Timberwolves to win but didn't expect to see what I saw in the first frame of the game when I tuned in.
Seeing Draymond, Klay Thompson and a player from Minnesota getting ejected from the game.
I missed the incident but turned to the game just when Klay was arguing with the referee and throwing a jersey or towel when he got the toss out of the game. Looked at the timeclock and it was just 2 minutes into the game with the score 0-0.
So they must of been just fighting on the court most of the time. Seen Klay got his shirt ripped and Draymond putting Gobert into a headlock.
Looked more like a scene from the UFC instead of the NBA from last night. But we are still midweek and not into the weekend yet for fighting.
These In-Season tournament games seem to be more about getting technical fouls than basketball like the regular season games ought to be like.
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November 15, 2023, 06:56:15 PM
It needs to be a Clippers team and not just Harden, the thing is that they are trying to revolve around James and he's the newcomer and I don't think that will fit in. That's totally an offensive arsenal but I don't think it will work out to the very end, they are good when he's not there but right now it looks like a noob team.

But they are figuring it out and still haven't found a solution yet. It has already cost them a 5-game losing streak, which calls for desperate measures.
Probably, Coach Tyronn Lue is just trying this last option. You know, no player would be able to play happily if he is not being himself. That's why he wants James Harden to be himself and see the outcome of his game affecting the team.
I read a RUMOR on Facebook regarding what's happening with them in the locker room and apparently:

Let Harden play off the bench instead.

Or it could be Westbrook. Either one of them could still play as a PG, so it's a coaching staff prerogative. Whoever is effective should be in the starting lineup.
If I were to pick between the 2, I would rather choose Westbrook to play off the bench.
Harden will not accept that role. Not with how high his ego is. Westbrook at least tried to play off the bench already when he was with the Lakers, and some time with the Clippers, but Harden? Since he became an all-star, he didn't start off the bench anymore, and he doesn't want that role.


Not sure if this has really been discussed her or not yet..but what do you all think about the Zach Lavine rumors?  As a Chicago Bulls fan, I think we got the better of the Jimmy Butler/Lavine trade, and he's been a fun and exciting player to watch these past few years, but it's time to blow it up.  Lavine is not good enough to be a teams leading star, and would fit much better as a number 2 or 3 option.  The Bulls aren't heading anywhere with this team, so time to move on a rebuild.  Thoughts?  Also what teams do you guys think he'd be a good fit for?
Not exciting TBH like the Lillard, or the Harden trade saga.

It's pretty obvious that the Bulls are like an average team even though they have stars like Vucevic, DeRozan, and Lavine. Both Lavine and the Bulls are exploring for potential teams that want him. The Lakers, and the Heat are the top teams that can get him, but TBH, it's pretty hard to know which teams are interested in him because we might see some other teams who are talking with their front office privately.
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November 15, 2023, 06:46:09 PM
Harden curse is real but I don't know the articles that are popping everywhere are true about him ranting on the locker room and even Kawhi didn't skip that part of his.

Draymond "may" had the good intentions, like protect your friend, but headlock, and for that long, wasn't the way to do it. It's famously known that Draymond is a dirty player, he was the reason why Warriors lost a whole title, because he kept on kicking others, dude is a dirty player through and through, and this was one of those moments when he did what he does, and I hope he gets at least a few games suspension.
Dray is like the gangster of the team and he's ready to go all in if ever one of his brothers get in trouble. But his approach is wrong while there's no real danger on it, he's the one that brings danger to the team and to the ones he thought brought danger.

What's the decision on him, will he get some few games of suspension?
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November 15, 2023, 05:29:13 PM
A couple of good matchups being televised on ESPN tonight. First up you have the Boston Celtics vs the Philadelphia 76ers. Both have an 8-2 record so that will be a good matchup. Then you have the 2 best teams in California right now, the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings facing off. Both should be great games to watch, but I’ll stay away from making any bets.

Lakers and Sacramento will be a good match up today. I thought it would be a good idea to bet over 230+ for this game since both team are on fire coming out of a fresh W dropping 130+ for each of their respective opponent. Both Lakers and Sacramento shot over 55%, but the Lakers were hotter in shooting outside the arc with over 60% fg made. I think the Lakers could still continue with their hot streak despite of their back to back game, since LeBron, AD, and most of their starting lineups were well rested late in the 3rd until the 4th quarter. What you guys think? lol

Looking at the odds, the Lakers are the underdog, so just by then numbers, it's a good bet on them at ML. However, the gap is not that big though, 1.84 for Sacramento and 2.01 for Lakers. It's definitely a high scoring game, as this two teams are known to have a very fast pace game.

Lakers is good playing at home, they are 5-0, while the Kings are 1-3 away from home.

So yeah, I think it's a good bet on the Lakers and the odds are very appealing to say the least. It might be very close game, who knows, maybe this game will go into overtime, hehehe.
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November 15, 2023, 05:10:34 PM
A couple of good matchups being televised on ESPN tonight. First up you have the Boston Celtics vs the Philadelphia 76ers. Both have an 8-2 record so that will be a good matchup. Then you have the 2 best teams in California right now, the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings facing off. Both should be great games to watch, but I’ll stay away from making any bets.

Lakers and Sacramento will be a good match up today. I thought it would be a good idea to bet over 230+ for this game since both team are on fire coming out of a fresh W dropping 130+ for each of their respective opponent. Both Lakers and Sacramento shot over 55%, but the Lakers were hotter in shooting outside the arc with over 60% fg made. I think the Lakers could still continue with their hot streak despite of their back to back game, since LeBron, AD, and most of their starting lineups were well rested late in the 3rd until the 4th quarter. What you guys think? lol

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November 15, 2023, 04:13:28 PM
When we are talking about "fighting" in NBA, not that many players throw punches, this is as hardcore as it gets. Draymond Green didn't do himself justice by keeping Gobert in headlock for that long, I understand wanting to protect your teammate, but you should just push or hold somewhere else, like grab Gobert by the waist and pull him away, that could make sense, there were many other players there that separated the fight, none of them did a headlock, look at all the players on the court, they are all trying to separate Klay but nobody gave another player headlock, that's not how it works.

Draymond "may" had the good intentions, like protect your friend, but headlock, and for that long, wasn't the way to do it. It's famously known that Draymond is a dirty player, he was the reason why Warriors lost a whole title, because he kept on kicking others, dude is a dirty player through and through, and this was one of those moments when he did what he does, and I hope he gets at least a few games suspension.

The way I look at it, Gobert is just standing there, no aggressive move on his part, maybe he was there to separate his team mates as well, but Draymond just rush in and choosing to choke hold Gobert. Good thing that Gobert stay cools after that one, if he chooses to go to Green it could be another Malice in the Palace. He should be fine and suspended for that and so the Warriors season are a messed right now.

For Lavine case, maybe it's time for him to find a new team. The management built a good players around him as he was obviously their main man. Unfortunately, it still didn't materialized, they barely make it to the first round of the playoffs. But the question is why Lakers?
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November 15, 2023, 03:32:46 PM
Yes the acquisition of VanVleet and Brooks turned out to be very good for this team. Jalen Seems more comfortable now and then they have Alperen Sengun who is having his best season so far. A balance team with 5 players averaging double figures in PPG.

I still have doubts on both teams making it to the playoffs but it's a breath of fresh air seeing them on top.

That's one of the reasons, I guess, but I believe the main reason is hiring this guy (Ime Udoka) to do the coaching job. He was terminated in Boston due to some controversy, but prior to that, he already made Boston what they are now. So, I believe he is a talented coach, and I would not be surprised if the Rockets make it to the playoffs this season.

Yeah, it's the combination, they took a risk on VanFleet and it's paying right now, same as hiring a new coach to guide their team. And every one is contributing, Alperen Şengün is turning out to be a good big man indeed. And then we have the young Jalen Green, Jabari Smith. Even the old Jeff Green has one game wherein he put great numbers.

So let's see how far the Houston Rockets are going to be, but I'm expecting them to be in the playoffs if they continue to play with this high intensity.

I like it when they are being underestimated or being the underdog so that we can get our money's worth when we bet on them.
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November 15, 2023, 02:48:40 PM
When we are talking about "fighting" in NBA, not that many players throw punches, this is as hardcore as it gets. Draymond Green didn't do himself justice by keeping Gobert in headlock for that long, I understand wanting to protect your teammate, but you should just push or hold somewhere else, like grab Gobert by the waist and pull him away, that could make sense, there were many other players there that separated the fight, none of them did a headlock, look at all the players on the court, they are all trying to separate Klay but nobody gave another player headlock, that's not how it works.

Draymond "may" had the good intentions, like protect your friend, but headlock, and for that long, wasn't the way to do it. It's famously known that Draymond is a dirty player, he was the reason why Warriors lost a whole title, because he kept on kicking others, dude is a dirty player through and through, and this was one of those moments when he did what he does, and I hope he gets at least a few games suspension.
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November 15, 2023, 02:34:33 PM
Not sure if this has really been discussed her or not yet..but what do you all think about the Zach Lavine rumors?  As a Chicago Bulls fan, I think we got the better of the Jimmy Butler/Lavine trade, and he's been a fun and exciting player to watch these past few years, but it's time to blow it up.  Lavine is not good enough to be a teams leading star, and would fit much better as a number 2 or 3 option.  The Bulls aren't heading anywhere with this team, so time to move on a rebuild.  Thoughts?  Also what teams do you guys think he'd be a good fit for?

Chi it's time to blow it up.  Not that the Knicks are any better but the way they are constructed they aren't going to compete at the highest level.  Sucks althat lonzo ball has gone down but it is what it is.  I'd get whatever I could for derozen and Levine in terms of young guys and picks and start over.  Landing someone like wemby in the draft is where it's at unless you are landing lebron type free agents.
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November 15, 2023, 01:36:57 PM
Not sure if this has really been discussed her or not yet..but what do you all think about the Zach Lavine rumors?  As a Chicago Bulls fan, I think we got the better of the Jimmy Butler/Lavine trade, and he's been a fun and exciting player to watch these past few years, but it's time to blow it up.  Lavine is not good enough to be a teams leading star, and would fit much better as a number 2 or 3 option.  The Bulls aren't heading anywhere with this team, so time to move on a rebuild.  Thoughts?  Also what teams do you guys think he'd be a good fit for?
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November 15, 2023, 01:03:48 PM
A couple of good matchups being televised on ESPN tonight. First up you have the Boston Celtics vs the Philadelphia 76ers. Both have an 8-2 record so that will be a good matchup. Then you have the 2 best teams in California right now, the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings facing off. Both should be great games to watch, but I’ll stay away from making any bets.
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November 15, 2023, 10:13:20 AM
So ...Clippers 6 defeats in a row ? Sad didn't Harden said out loud that "he is the system?" ...well ? where is this system he is talking about ? because so far I can't see anything.

He is the fuckin problem! Yes he contribute sometimes on points but after that he is useless on defense. Offense will not gonna win the game alone so his fuckin system is a literal disaster.

Clippers is good team before because they have good balance offense and defense while inserting Harden crumble their defense while their offense is just the same since only one person can shoot the ball one at a time so Kawhi or PG can do what he is doing with or without him while their defense becomes minus 1 with Harden.

That's the thing Harden has to learn. He was used to his time with the Rockets, where he didn't have to play good defense because he was in charge of the offense. In order to conserve his energy, he didn't defend well. But here with the Clippers, it's a different story. Everyone should defend because the game of basketball has changed a lot now, emphasizing ball movement and teamwork. If they don't play on the same page, that's when they can't win a game, even if they have the right talent.

They have a few days of rest before their next game. They're back at home and will host the Rockets, who are an underrated team with 6 win streak, opposite to what the Clippers have currently.  Let's see if something good will happen.
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