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The Warriors can make it happen if ever Giannis will insist that he will only seek shelter in the Warriors roof but if no team will be named, I bet almost all of the teams in the league will submit their requests to so that they can land Giannis in their roster because that is already a chance. Knowing Giannis, he's the kind of player who doesn't care which team he plays, he just wanted to be surrounded with some players who also want to win because that is also what he said recently about his situation in the Bucks.

I disagree. That punching incident wasn't included on the factor on why the Warriors decided to trade Poole, it was his performance in the playoffs which made the Warriors did what they did and in-fact, Poole had it coming to himself because he was not on his usual self during that time. And if Draymond Green was also inconsistent, I won't be surprised either if both of them will not wear the same uniform they had next season but it was just Poole.

Many superstars nowadays are different from the past. In the past, most of them stayed loyal to a team but most teams would trade them when they felt they were not in their primes anymore. And it was understandable since it was business as usual. Nowadays, some superstars not only want to get a ring by joining other superstars but they are also looking for better cities and places like Los Angeles, Florida, and the other big cities. There were even questions if Lebron could be compared to Jordan's greatness if he never left Cleveland. It's a fact that it is more difficult to get a ring by staying loyal to a team especially if the team is not that rich and the city is not that big nor has great weather or good places like white sand beaches. But it is also hard to judge these superstars choosing their preferred cities or joining a superteam because it's their own careers and lives to spend and at least they do not have regrets.

Giannis still has two more seasons before he can exercise his option to continue or leave or to extend. Before signing his super contract a few years ago, there were many teams that wanted to take him. IIRC the Miami Heat was one of those teams that were expecting to have a good chance of getting him. But at the end of the day, Giannis decided to stay in the smaller city of Milwaukee. Giannis delivered also a ring to the city so it could be that he also wants to play for another team or relocate to a better place. 

It's not about loyalty. I wasn't even thinking about that. My disappointment would come from the concentration of top talents in only a few teams. You mentioned Durant so let me use him as an example too. I think joining GSW and forming the "splash family" back then should never be replicated. Great job for getting the ring that he was chasing but that move eventually made the league quite predictable and boring.

In terms of chemistry, I don't see any problem with Curry because he can always adjust to any superstar playing alongside him on the team. He already proved this with Kevin Durant, where despite being the best player on the team, Curry allowed Durant to shine as the best player. As a result, they won multiple championships, with Durant winning the Finals MVP twice. Throughout this, Curry remained true to himself without criticism or envy.

I believe Curry has the potential to elevate Giannis' game as well.

If he love to move to GSW or any desired team then I guess he deserve that, he already finish his task with Bucks since as you said he already gives them a championship and now its time for him to discover other things outside on his team that can improve him. Maybe they would really get a good chemistry with Curry and if their pair up would happen then this is scary knowing that both of them can able to provide good numbers on their respected area.

Can you please tell me which players can the Warriors give to the Bucks just to get Giannis? Because looking at their current roster, I don't think that the Bucks are interested in getting some Warriors players. They have 2 first round picks for the next 2 years. The Bucks are the oldest team in the NBA last season, and they need younger players definitely. If they want to get younger players, they need to get it from another team, and not the Warriors.

Yes it's still possible, but what are the chances of it to happen? All of the teams right now are interested in him already, and keeping an eye on him after his statement in one of his interview. The only question now is which team has the players, and draft picks that's enough to get Giannis. Unfortunately, I don't see the Warriors up there getting him, and TBH I don't also think that the Warriors will try to get him. I mean they have Looney as their starting Center, and that rookie as their back-up. Why the need for a 3rd one?

You're leaning towards the loyalty of a player thus, you see this one as disappointing, eh?

There are certain players who value loyalty over championship, and there are some who value championship over loyalty. Giannis falls on the 2nd one, and there's nothing wrong with it. The perfect example with this is Durant back when the Thunder are up 3-1, and then they still lost to the Warriors. The next season they joined Steph, and Klay to build that OP team. What's the reason? To get a title, and Giannis is almost the same. If he feels that he can't a 2nd title in Milwaukee then what's the reason for him to stay there? He values titles more than loyalty.

I think he proved his point. A talent like that shouldn’t be stuck in Milwaukee forever. He brought them the championship like he said he would and he’ll play out his contract. I say let him move to California and set some all time records with Curry in between shooting movies and commercials. He deserves it. His story is a great one.

It's not personal, he just wants to win.
He said in an interview that he almost quit basketball in 2020 due to some mental issues. Then he won the championship and it was "the best feeling ever". That's what motivates him and keeps him going.

I guess he wants to prevent to fall in this hole again, and this is only possible if he can compete.
The Bucks last year have been the oldest team in the league and some big changes will and have to happen if they want to stay competitive. So if they improve the roster he stays, if they don't, good bye Giannis. Nobody can be mad about that after everything he gave to this team.

That's pretty disappointing if Giannis packs his bags and join a superstar in another team. I mean he's already accomplished something only a few could achieve and doesn't seem to have a serious falling out with teammates or management. Yes he's demanding something to make the team more competitive before he extends contract but I think that's normal for any player with ambition.

His presence in the Bucks keeps the East exciting and competitive with Celtics and also the Heat.

That will be ridiculous if the Warriors can keep their old roster intact while taking Giannis too. That way high of luxury tax and I don't think the Warriors owners could handle that anymore. It's suicide.
They will have to give up a lot of players to make it happen although like you said, it is possible with the right management.

Just imagining those two playing together gives me the goosebumps. One that should be defended in the three-point line to avoid building momentum attacking the rim and another that also must be defended in the three-point line because of his scary shooting career. It's crazy. An opponent will need two good defenders and what if a switch happens it's over. 

I definitely wouldn’t say it’s impossible. If Giannis plays out his contract he could go wherever he wants. It’s just a matter of who wants to make the room for him or pay insane luxury tax penalties. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume the Warriors would pay whatever and buyout whoever in order to pair up Curry and Giannis.

Agreed.  Pretty much any team at this point outside a couple of the younger teams would make them an instant contender.  That's how good giannis is.  But agreed a team with a lot of good 3 and d guys that could open up the paint is where he needs to be to flourish.  He is killer on the drive and doesn't need to be a spot up shooter.

To be fair, we really don't know if that is the right or wrong decision for the Warriors. But obviously they have a choice and they put their money on the line for Draymond Green, because at the end, maybe the Dunleavy sees the contributions of Green to the Warriors and then Poole still very young and I would say his success put too much on his head.

So we will see if the right decision if the Warriors will go at least in the top 4 of the Western conference with CP3. That is the big question, but for Poole, since he is still young then he should move forward and become one of the best like Curry and Thompson.

We really don't know, but if there is smoke, there is a fire. Meaning, there are a lot of news of Giannis moving to Warriors, so it could be true or not but we will see. Perhaps it could still be based on Klay's performance? He could be a a trade bait next year, just saying.


Any team will be a perfect fit for Giannis. He just need to surround himself with good players to win another ring. And maybe that's why he is pursuing the Warriors as they not just have a solid team, but they have the experience already with Steph Curry.

Warriors can't get Giannis, but one thing that is "just a bit" possible is to get Giannis to play with Doncic. That is going to be tough, and the playbook has to be quite solid because Doncic could be a shooter but he is not a lights out shooter, and he likes to drive inside, with Giannis liking the ball so much, Doncic liking the ball so much and potentially if they still have Irving then him liking the ball so much, you will have a team that is consisting of stars that want the ball in their hands.

Warriors would have been a better fit, but unfortunately that is not going to happen and that is why I think it should be important to remember that Giannis has to go to a team that is filled with shooters, even if not Warriors.

Yup, both players have their own talents  but they are being separated  by the impact that they are bringing to their team.

I agree that steph is far different from Seth as we all witnessing how they both performing, though Seth is trying but the success Steph already gained was already too far, Steph already being qualified  as one of those decent  superstar  who played the game.

I don’t think it was his performance as much as it was his inability to listen and follow instructions. There is a clip going around of Draymond trying to speak to him as he’s coming off the floor only to be ignored, and then Steph tries to talk to him and it’s the same thing. Poole is a great player, but he couldn’t stick with the Warriors system and that’s ultimately what got him moved.

That is their reality and they can't do nothing about it as they already know that they cannot have it both ways unless both of them are really talented and skillful enough to become incomparable but we know that there are some cases where siblings have dominated a sports or some other fields but that's not very common and for the Curry brothers, they are just a regular siblings who only have one dominant player and the other one is just playing decent.

I would only feel sorry for him if he's actually as great as Steph and still doesn't get the playing time or recognition he deserves. They're not equally talented so someone will be on the shadows. One is a decent role player who probably reached his peak already while the other is a consistent game changer.