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August 08, 2023, 02:11:21 PM
Nah it's too soon that AD will get injured and cannot contribute to the championship because the season haven't even started yet and discussing about them going to the championship rounds is a bit premature for now. Knowing AD, he is likely to get injured and that will not get out of his system just like KD, but both stars are known to make a comeback and will be utilized in the playoffs to help the team in their run unlike any other players that after injury, there's not much to expect because their play is not that the same anymore.

In Davis' case, he can literally injure himself from any touch, even in offseason workouts. So it's not too early to assume that he could miss part of the season due to injuries again. Honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised if betting sites started offering bets on whether Davis would be injured next season or not. It would be a win-win bet for users. Smiley
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August 08, 2023, 10:37:08 AM

Nah it's too soon that AD will get injured and cannot contribute to the championship because the season haven't even started yet and discussing about them going to the championship rounds is a bit premature for now. Knowing AD, he is likely to get injured and that will not get out of his system just like KD, but both stars are known to make a comeback and will be utilized in the playoffs to help the team in their run unlike any other players that after injury, there's not much to expect because their play is not that the same anymore.

Maybe they can still go to play in the playoffs this upcoming season because they already had a great run last year and they were the ones who easily beat the GSW who was the defending champion at that time. Since they already get rid of Westbrook and gather more good players, I'm sure the start of the season will be different, and what they need to work on is thinking about how to defeat the Nuggets so that they won't be ended up swept in 2 consecutive seasons in the NBA playoffs.
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August 08, 2023, 08:58:07 AM
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They are locked into Lebron and AD and both are older and on the downward trajectory of theor careers.
This is so true. It cannot get better. I don't understand what Lakers are doing and what are they thinking for the next 2-3 years.
It's simple, they've got their own terms and still trust the two. That's why even if they're older, they're putting a bet on that roster and won't change anytime soon or have them traded. As long as they can still see the value in them, they'll continue to work with them until these two are the ones to demand a trade. We do understand that the value of these two are not that at its peak anymore and there are better options. But, that's what Lakers are for, they're impressed with what just happened on the last season when they're actually in the deepest and still managed to the play-in/playoffs.
Let's think this way: if the Lakers had beaten the Nuggets in the WCF, they would certainly have won the championship. So, probably what the management is thinking is that there's still a chance for both AD and LeBron to win a championship. The roster is still complete, at least with the starters, and they have added more depth, so it's expected to see this team improve next season.

Personally, I don't find any problem with retaining these two. Besides, LeBron is nearing retirement, so they just want to honor what he has done with the Lakers before his retirement. Having LeBron on the team also makes the Lakers more popular, which will result in bigger ticket sales and more views.
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August 08, 2023, 08:32:44 AM
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They are locked into Lebron and AD and both are older and on the downward trajectory of theor careers.
This is so true. It cannot get better. I don't understand what Lakers are doing and what are they thinking for the next 2-3 years.
It's simple, they've got their own terms and still trust the two. That's why even if they're older, they're putting a bet on that roster and won't change anytime soon or have them traded. As long as they can still see the value in them, they'll continue to work with them until these two are the ones to demand a trade. We do understand that the value of these two are not that at its peak anymore and there are better options. But, that's what Lakers are for, they're impressed with what just happened on the last season when they're actually in the deepest and still managed to the play-in/playoffs.
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August 08, 2023, 08:21:15 AM
It could be Damian Lillard as the biggest surprise to come. I believe the Miami Heat is having a 50/50 chance of getting him or even lower so I'd still be surprised if they can acquire Lillard which I am hoping to happen.

James Harden might be a little surprised, this guy can still play well, especially in play-making and shooting so a contending team getting him will become a better team. We don't know yet how much the other teams are willing to give up to take him but teams will take him pretty sure unless Philly will do the waiting game. And lastly, there's Zach LaVine who earlier wants out of Chicago so a possible trade before the start of the season will happen. 

As for the favorites next season, I am also expecting Denver and the Phoenix. Milwaukee and Boston are possible 50/50 unless Miami gets Lillard.

Lillard joining the Miami Heat wouldn't necessarily make them the heavy favorites to win the championship. However, it would be interesting to see if he lands with the Heat, as the team would likely improve due to the potential chemistry. As for James Harden, he isn't as entertaining anymore, so I'm not thrilled about which team he will join. After he was traded from the Rockets, his career hasn't been the same. I don't understand why the Nets gave up on him so easily. I mean, the big 3 is talented enough to make the team a championship contender, but it seems the Nets might have been in a hurry.
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August 08, 2023, 06:19:07 AM
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In the case of Ben thought it was different, he suffered it when everything went sour, with the Sixers and himself because Ben was a different player in that season. He doesn't want to shoot and then perhaps there is already tension between him the coach and the players themselves.

As compare to Rubio, he was injured that season, so he never see some playing time. Perhaps he just wanted to gave away from the limelight of FIBA as he started very young then and chooses to stay and perhaps focus on his comeback in the NBA.
I agree that the two are different cases. Ben's situation is probably closer to what happened with Markelle Fultz. Remember him? The former no. 1 pick that also became a laughing stock due to his poor shooting and that awkward free throw release. Both suffered the "yips" but Fultz seems to have overcome that unlike Simmons.

Yup, two different situations as Simmons' pride eats his mindset against his former team while Rubio suffers from an injury. Situation
that he can't control, unlike with Simmon, it's his pride why he doesn't want to play.

Hopefully Rubio will take time to think deep if he will also file his leave when the new season starts, or maybe it's just all for FIBA and
his main goal is to focus coming back to NBA.

Looking forward to hear some updates with his next journey, for now, let's leave him with his way of curing his mental concern.

It will be much better for him if he cannot hear any news involving his situation and name because that will not help him in his case as there will be a chance that he will bump into an article that is saying nonsense about him and his career, just a click bait so that they can ride the situation while Rubio's case is still hot.

But then again, that will certainly not help him as instead of feeling comfortable that he got some support from his fans and from the basketball community, rather he will feel that he is doubted by many because of that certain article he bumped into.

The bad side of socmed, while it's hot, they will use it to gained attentions, even there's nothing about the content, simply a clickbait
but people will tend to get some interest.

Like what you said, it's not going to be helpful for Rubio knowing his condition it might affect him and cause additional concern.

Let's hope for the best. Whatever decision he takes as long as it will help him to cope with his current situation.

Not new about them? They just create that scenery to make it readable to their audiences. They always do that since this is how they can earn money.

They don't care if this news gonna help or not for Rubio since as long as they can get a lot of engagement then there business still good.

But for sure he's fine and he can handle all troubles what he is facing on.
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August 08, 2023, 04:46:04 AM
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In the case of Ben thought it was different, he suffered it when everything went sour, with the Sixers and himself because Ben was a different player in that season. He doesn't want to shoot and then perhaps there is already tension between him the coach and the players themselves.

As compare to Rubio, he was injured that season, so he never see some playing time. Perhaps he just wanted to gave away from the limelight of FIBA as he started very young then and chooses to stay and perhaps focus on his comeback in the NBA.
I agree that the two are different cases. Ben's situation is probably closer to what happened with Markelle Fultz. Remember him? The former no. 1 pick that also became a laughing stock due to his poor shooting and that awkward free throw release. Both suffered the "yips" but Fultz seems to have overcome that unlike Simmons.

Yup, two different situations as Simmons' pride eats his mindset against his former team while Rubio suffers from an injury. Situation
that he can't control, unlike with Simmon, it's his pride why he doesn't want to play.

Hopefully Rubio will take time to think deep if he will also file his leave when the new season starts, or maybe it's just all for FIBA and
his main goal is to focus coming back to NBA.

Looking forward to hear some updates with his next journey, for now, let's leave him with his way of curing his mental concern.

It will be much better for him if he cannot hear any news involving his situation and name because that will not help him in his case as there will be a chance that he will bump into an article that is saying nonsense about him and his career, just a click bait so that they can ride the situation while Rubio's case is still hot.

But then again, that will certainly not help him as instead of feeling comfortable that he got some support from his fans and from the basketball community, rather he will feel that he is doubted by many because of that certain article he bumped into.

The bad side of socmed, while it's hot, they will use it to gained attentions, even there's nothing about the content, simply a clickbait
but people will tend to get some interest.

Like what you said, it's not going to be helpful for Rubio knowing his condition it might affect him and cause additional concern.

Let's hope for the best. Whatever decision he takes as long as it will help him to cope with his current situation.
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August 08, 2023, 04:03:23 AM
Only about 2 more months until the NBA is back upon us. I don’t think there’s much room for surprise this year. The Denver Nuggets have been the young team on the come up for a while and I think they’re still the team to beat. I think Phoenix is the team that has a lot to prove. With their roster everyone should be expecting a championship.

Yes, time is indeed running fast, isn't it? Before this month will end, the respective teams in the league will commence their training camp to prepare for the upcoming season and what it could it bring to them. As usual, a couple of underdogs will be on the top in the first two weeks while other teams are still busy rectifying their arrangements while having a test run in the first couple of games.

Nuggets will still be a top dog in the league while Nikola Jokic is having a full rest in the summer, and I'll be watching the Phoenix Suns's improvements and as well as the Miami Heat if ever they can acquire Damian Lillard successfully.

It could be Damian Lillard as the biggest surprise to come. I believe the Miami Heat is having a 50/50 chance of getting him or even lower so I'd still be surprised if they can acquire Lillard which I am hoping to happen.

James Harden might be a little surprised, this guy can still play well, especially in play-making and shooting so a contending team getting him will become a better team. We don't know yet how much the other teams are willing to give up to take him but teams will take him pretty sure unless Philly will do the waiting game. And lastly, there's Zach LaVine who earlier wants out of Chicago so a possible trade before the start of the season will happen. 

As for the favorites next season, I am also expecting Denver and the Phoenix. Milwaukee and Boston are possible 50/50 unless Miami gets Lillard.
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August 08, 2023, 02:35:41 AM
CP3's time with the Suns is done because they are done experimenting with them. With the newly added superstars and a new coach, I think they are heading in a great direction because good chemistry is the first priority of a team in order to succeed.
We first need to witness the chemistry for their 4 stars. Ayton, Kevin Durant, Booker, and Beal. We have all seen Booker and Ayton played together and there's no doubt their chemistry is good although the pair of Ayton and CP3 is actually better. Let's analyze the other two after maybe 10-20 game sessions. Because we have seen how the Brooklyn Nets were created, it does look good on paper with KD, Harden, and Irving and yet we didn't see good results, just more on hype.

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To be clear, that's a completely understandable stance to have for Chicago, LaVine is one of the most prolific and efficient scorers in the league. The Bulls should be stingy with the two-time All Star. Trading him right now wouldn't make sense unless the offer is out of this world. Especially when there's a chance that the minor tweaks Chicago made to its roster this offseason pan out. If that happens then all of this trade talk dissipates.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/zach-lavine-trade-why-bulls-can-learn-valuable-lesson-from-wizards-if-they-want-to-move-high-scoring-guard/
Will the Chicago Bulls make a big mistake if they trade Zach LaVine? IMO, yes. They don't need a rebuild, they need an upgrade on other sections. They already have the best offensive players in the league but something is missing after Lonzo Ball was hurt.
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August 08, 2023, 01:13:05 AM

That will not happen because of salary cap. At the same time, not all 5 of them are playing in different positions, so one of them must adjust.
If all 5 of them stayed with the Suns. Their starter will be like this: CP3 at PG, Beal at SG, Booker at SF, Durant at PF, Ayton at Center. Yes it might be good, but Booker is too small for a small forward IMO, and that's an advantage for them already. Another one is their bench players. It's a good thing that they've addressed this problem already by acquiring some good players like Bol Bol, Watanabe, and others.
The bench players were their problem last season. They gave up so much in that trade for Durant, but of course, that will be solved in the coming season because they unloaded CP3 for Bradley Beal, and they can acquire role players with minimum contracts.

Even though all 5 of them will stay with the Suns, I don't think that anybody will want to play as bench player. Some might say CP3, but I don't think that he will like that especially knowing the fact that he never played as a 6th man or a bench player in his whole NBA career. Of course that might change now that he's almost 40 years old, and playing with the Warriors who have the arguably one of the best PG's right now. Overall, the Suns are still a good team right now even though they traded CP3.

As for the Suns winning the title, as long as Durant will not get injured, the Suns have a huge chance to win. 3 of the best shooters are in one team plus they have a very good defender as well in Ayton plus they have better role players right now than last season. I want the Warriors to win this season since I'm a Warriors fan, but the Suns also have a high chance of winning the title as well just by looking at their current roster.

CP3's time with the Suns is done because they are done experimenting with them. With the newly added superstars and a new coach, I think they are heading in a great direction because good chemistry is the first priority of a team in order to succeed.
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August 07, 2023, 09:47:22 PM
I thought the Suns with CP3 is better than the current roster they have right now. I mean, Bradley Beal could a be a good addition, but he's just another guard who can score and they already have Durant and Booker. What they really need is a pass first point guard who's also a good play maker. CP3 was the perfect piece, but then again it did not really work for Suns. I'm skeptical about this current Phoenix Suns roster, it's like I'm 60% sure this team won't gonna work out again. I bet, if they can't win a championship this year, this superstars will leave Phoenix except for Booker most probably.
I still think that if they kept CP3 then they would have been better than they have ever been since Nash mvp seasons. I mean we are talking about CP3, Beal, Booker, Durant, Ayton all playing and they could literally go out with that roster and that five as well and would have been amazing without a doubt.

I am not saying that they need to use that roster and that starting five, but they could have been doing it like that and would have been profiting without a doubt. Why they had to let him go is still beyond my understanding, they never looked like a team that would need money saved from maybe getting that buy out deal, which would be unlikely, so it is really not a logical argument to waive him in the end.
That will not happen because of salary cap. At the same time, not all 5 of them are playing in different positions, so one of them must adjust.
If all 5 of them stayed with the Suns. Their starter will be like this: CP3 at PG, Beal at SG, Booker at SF, Durant at PF, Ayton at Center. Yes it might be good, but Booker is too small for a small forward IMO, and that's an advantage for them already. Another one is their bench players. It's a good thing that they've addressed this problem already by acquiring some good players like Bol Bol, Watanabe, and others.

Even though all 5 of them will stay with the Suns, I don't think that anybody will want to play as bench player. Some might say CP3, but I don't think that he will like that especially knowing the fact that he never played as a 6th man or a bench player in his whole NBA career. Of course that might change now that he's almost 40 years old, and playing with the Warriors who have the arguably one of the best PG's right now. Overall, the Suns are still a good team right now even though they traded CP3.

As for the Suns winning the title, as long as Durant will not get injured, the Suns have a huge chance to win. 3 of the best shooters are in one team plus they have a very good defender as well in Ayton plus they have better role players right now than last season. I want the Warriors to win this season since I'm a Warriors fan, but the Suns also have a high chance of winning the title as well just by looking at their current roster.
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August 07, 2023, 05:36:40 PM
I thought the Suns with CP3 is better than the current roster they have right now. I mean, Bradley Beal could a be a good addition, but he's just another guard who can score and they already have Durant and Booker. What they really need is a pass first point guard who's also a good play maker. CP3 was the perfect piece, but then again it did not really work for Suns. I'm skeptical about this current Phoenix Suns roster, it's like I'm 60% sure this team won't gonna work out again. I bet, if they can't win a championship this year, this superstars will leave Phoenix except for Booker most probably.
I still think that if they kept CP3 then they would have been better than they have ever been since Nash mvp seasons. I mean we are talking about CP3, Beal, Booker, Durant, Ayton all playing and they could literally go out with that roster and that five as well and would have been amazing without a doubt.

But they will have to give out something in order to get Bradley Beal. And it seems that the management is no longer interested on CP3 as he is injury prone. Even a Booker + Durant + CP3 is already deadly trio, but Suns management seems to know better to give up on CP3 already.

I am not saying that they need to use that roster and that starting five, but they could have been doing it like that and would have been profiting without a doubt. Why they had to let him go is still beyond my understanding, they never looked like a team that would need money saved from maybe getting that buy out deal, which would be unlikely, so it is really not a logical argument to waive him in the end.

It's really hard to see what will be the argument except maybe the cap space and again, and old and ageing CP3. Same case with the Warriors getting rid of a young Jordan Poole to get CP3 on their lineup. Risk and reward, so we will see if it will pay off or not this incoming season.
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August 07, 2023, 04:31:05 PM
I thought the Suns with CP3 is better than the current roster they have right now. I mean, Bradley Beal could a be a good addition, but he's just another guard who can score and they already have Durant and Booker. What they really need is a pass first point guard who's also a good play maker. CP3 was the perfect piece, but then again it did not really work for Suns. I'm skeptical about this current Phoenix Suns roster, it's like I'm 60% sure this team won't gonna work out again. I bet, if they can't win a championship this year, this superstars will leave Phoenix except for Booker most probably.
I still think that if they kept CP3 then they would have been better than they have ever been since Nash mvp seasons. I mean we are talking about CP3, Beal, Booker, Durant, Ayton all playing and they could literally go out with that roster and that five as well and would have been amazing without a doubt.

I am not saying that they need to use that roster and that starting five, but they could have been doing it like that and would have been profiting without a doubt. Why they had to let him go is still beyond my understanding, they never looked like a team that would need money saved from maybe getting that buy out deal, which would be unlikely, so it is really not a logical argument to waive him in the end.
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August 07, 2023, 03:55:59 PM
The Lakers giving Anthony Davis $186,000,000 with a three year extension seems a bit insane given how much time he has missed. He’d better start staying healthy for the amount of money they’re giving him. 62 million dollars when he only plays about 50 games in a good year seems like like overpaying. I sure hope that contract doesn’t come back to bite them.

Anthony Davis is eligible for the maximum contract extension with that huge worth. Therefore, if the given contract is probably below, Davis might just spend the remaining 2 years on his contract and then consider leaving. What the Lakers do is secure him early despite being an injured prone.

In fairness to Anthony Davis, he's the only player I know that even an injury prone, he can unleash his monster performance right away after returning to play.

Referring to his last season performance, Davis was able to keep his average percentage after being sidelined for several games.

Yeah but the NBA is a contract cap league not like the major league baseball league.  Meaning if AD is injured the Lakers won't have any room to sign anyone else.  They are locked into Lebron and AD and both are older and on the downward trajectory of theor careers.  They will sell seats but they aren't going to win anything with old dudes sucking up all the cap room.

The Los Angeles Lakers are obviously not new to the business and they know how to handle anything about cap space.

They also know the consequences of giving huge contracts to their players. These guys are professional.

Anthony Davis is also not new to them being injury prone but as I mentioned, Davis is proven as "always consistent" playing even after an injury. We can't compare him to other players that once experience being injury prone, the performance will also deteriorate and a result, these players are ended up in different teams.

And no, they are not locked or the team is only about just LeBron James and Anthony Davis. Please refer to their performance on the last revamp they did on their roster in the late season. Just came up short in the playoffs but the chemistry is there. Remember that the Lakers are not even expected by the majority to enter the playoffs last season but that was changed after the last revamp, and it's not because of LeBron and Anthony Davis carrying the team.


I very much agree. The latest revamp proved that the Lakers can be more competent as long as they can synchronize their moves and then we have Austin Reaves who showed a sudden improvement as he can now attack a perimeter, what more if D'Angelo Russell was more confident in shooting beyond the arc. It was good but it's not enough that is why this season, they are looking for an improvement that is why they just added one player to their roster and then we have Davis going back as a power forward.

Lakers just aren't that good enough to bang with the top teams.  Bron and Davis one year older doesn't help the cause.  And with more tape on austin reaves I think his trajectory will flatten out, he isn't going to magically end up as a top 20 guy in the NBA.  dude is a decent piece would be great on a top team coming in off the bench.
Well, I couldn't agree more. Lakers are trying to get their young players to be stars but it is just not that easy. I like Austin Reeves and he is indeed a decent player but I feel like Lakers' plan is relying on him and other young players, and it is too much. AD's contract is insane in my opinion. I would bet big money that he will get injured again and can't contribute to championships. I know the recent budgets and 60m is not actually that much high as it is used to be, but still, I'm almost sure he is going to be injured. It is a huge risk to sign him this much.

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They are locked into Lebron and AD and both are older and on the downward trajectory of theor careers.
This is so true. It cannot get better. I don't understand what Lakers are doing and what are they thinking for the next 2-3 years.

Nah it's too soon that AD will get injured and cannot contribute to the championship because the season haven't even started yet and discussing about them going to the championship rounds is a bit premature for now. Knowing AD, he is likely to get injured and that will not get out of his system just like KD, but both stars are known to make a comeback and will be utilized in the playoffs to help the team in their run unlike any other players that after injury, there's not much to expect because their play is not that the same anymore.
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August 07, 2023, 02:43:10 PM
The Lakers giving Anthony Davis $186,000,000 with a three year extension seems a bit insane given how much time he has missed. He’d better start staying healthy for the amount of money they’re giving him. 62 million dollars when he only plays about 50 games in a good year seems like like overpaying. I sure hope that contract doesn’t come back to bite them.

Anthony Davis is eligible for the maximum contract extension with that huge worth. Therefore, if the given contract is probably below, Davis might just spend the remaining 2 years on his contract and then consider leaving. What the Lakers do is secure him early despite being an injured prone.

In fairness to Anthony Davis, he's the only player I know that even an injury prone, he can unleash his monster performance right away after returning to play.

Referring to his last season performance, Davis was able to keep his average percentage after being sidelined for several games.

Yeah but the NBA is a contract cap league not like the major league baseball league.  Meaning if AD is injured the Lakers won't have any room to sign anyone else.  They are locked into Lebron and AD and both are older and on the downward trajectory of theor careers.  They will sell seats but they aren't going to win anything with old dudes sucking up all the cap room.

The Los Angeles Lakers are obviously not new to the business and they know how to handle anything about cap space.

They also know the consequences of giving huge contracts to their players. These guys are professional.

Anthony Davis is also not new to them being injury prone but as I mentioned, Davis is proven as "always consistent" playing even after an injury. We can't compare him to other players that once experience being injury prone, the performance will also deteriorate and a result, these players are ended up in different teams.

And no, they are not locked or the team is only about just LeBron James and Anthony Davis. Please refer to their performance on the last revamp they did on their roster in the late season. Just came up short in the playoffs but the chemistry is there. Remember that the Lakers are not even expected by the majority to enter the playoffs last season but that was changed after the last revamp, and it's not because of LeBron and Anthony Davis carrying the team.


I very much agree. The latest revamp proved that the Lakers can be more competent as long as they can synchronize their moves and then we have Austin Reaves who showed a sudden improvement as he can now attack a perimeter, what more if D'Angelo Russell was more confident in shooting beyond the arc. It was good but it's not enough that is why this season, they are looking for an improvement that is why they just added one player to their roster and then we have Davis going back as a power forward.

Lakers just aren't that good enough to bang with the top teams.  Bron and Davis one year older doesn't help the cause.  And with more tape on austin reaves I think his trajectory will flatten out, he isn't going to magically end up as a top 20 guy in the NBA.  dude is a decent piece would be great on a top team coming in off the bench.
Well, I couldn't agree more. Lakers are trying to get their young players to be stars but it is just not that easy. I like Austin Reeves and he is indeed a decent player but I feel like Lakers' plan is relying on him and other young players, and it is too much. AD's contract is insane in my opinion. I would bet big money that he will get injured again and can't contribute to championships. I know the recent budgets and 60m is not actually that much high as it is used to be, but still, I'm almost sure he is going to be injured. It is a huge risk to sign him this much.

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They are locked into Lebron and AD and both are older and on the downward trajectory of theor careers.
This is so true. It cannot get better. I don't understand what Lakers are doing and what are they thinking for the next 2-3 years.
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August 07, 2023, 02:37:23 PM
Only about 2 more months until the NBA is back upon us. I don’t think there’s much room for surprise this year. The Denver Nuggets have been the young team on the come up for a while and I think they’re still the team to beat. I think Phoenix is the team that has a lot to prove. With their roster everyone should be expecting a championship.

Yes, time is indeed running fast, isn't it? Before this month will end, the respective teams in the league will commence their training camp to prepare for the upcoming season and what it could it bring to them. As usual, a couple of underdogs will be on the top in the first two weeks while other teams are still busy rectifying their arrangements while having a test run in the first couple of games.

Nuggets will still be a top dog in the league while Nikola Jokic is having a full rest in the summer, and I'll be watching the Phoenix Suns's improvements and as well as the Miami Heat if ever they can acquire Damian Lillard successfully.
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August 07, 2023, 01:52:02 PM
The Lakers giving Anthony Davis $186,000,000 with a three year extension seems a bit insane given how much time he has missed. He’d better start staying healthy for the amount of money they’re giving him. 62 million dollars when he only plays about 50 games in a good year seems like like overpaying. I sure hope that contract doesn’t come back to bite them.

Anthony Davis is eligible for the maximum contract extension with that huge worth. Therefore, if the given contract is probably below, Davis might just spend the remaining 2 years on his contract and then consider leaving. What the Lakers do is secure him early despite being an injured prone.

In fairness to Anthony Davis, he's the only player I know that even an injury prone, he can unleash his monster performance right away after returning to play.

Referring to his last season performance, Davis was able to keep his average percentage after being sidelined for several games.

Yeah but the NBA is a contract cap league not like the major league baseball league.  Meaning if AD is injured the Lakers won't have any room to sign anyone else.  They are locked into Lebron and AD and both are older and on the downward trajectory of theor careers.  They will sell seats but they aren't going to win anything with old dudes sucking up all the cap room.

The Los Angeles Lakers are obviously not new to the business and they know how to handle anything about cap space.

They also know the consequences of giving huge contracts to their players. These guys are professional.

Anthony Davis is also not new to them being injury prone but as I mentioned, Davis is proven as "always consistent" playing even after an injury. We can't compare him to other players that once experience being injury prone, the performance will also deteriorate and a result, these players are ended up in different teams.

And no, they are not locked or the team is only about just LeBron James and Anthony Davis. Please refer to their performance on the last revamp they did on their roster in the late season. Just came up short in the playoffs but the chemistry is there. Remember that the Lakers are not even expected by the majority to enter the playoffs last season but that was changed after the last revamp, and it's not because of LeBron and Anthony Davis carrying the team.


I very much agree. The latest revamp proved that the Lakers can be more competent as long as they can synchronize their moves and then we have Austin Reaves who showed a sudden improvement as he can now attack a perimeter, what more if D'Angelo Russell was more confident in shooting beyond the arc. It was good but it's not enough that is why this season, they are looking for an improvement that is why they just added one player to their roster and then we have Davis going back as a power forward.

Lakers just aren't that good enough to bang with the top teams.  Bron and Davis one year older doesn't help the cause.  And with more tape on austin reaves I think his trajectory will flatten out, he isn't going to magically end up as a top 20 guy in the NBA.  dude is a decent piece would be great on a top team coming in off the bench.
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In the case of Ben thought it was different, he suffered it when everything went sour, with the Sixers and himself because Ben was a different player in that season. He doesn't want to shoot and then perhaps there is already tension between him the coach and the players themselves.

As compare to Rubio, he was injured that season, so he never see some playing time. Perhaps he just wanted to gave away from the limelight of FIBA as he started very young then and chooses to stay and perhaps focus on his comeback in the NBA.
I agree that the two are different cases. Ben's situation is probably closer to what happened with Markelle Fultz. Remember him? The former no. 1 pick that also became a laughing stock due to his poor shooting and that awkward free throw release. Both suffered the "yips" but Fultz seems to have overcome that unlike Simmons.

Yup, two different situations as Simmons' pride eats his mindset against his former team while Rubio suffers from an injury. Situation
that he can't control, unlike with Simmon, it's his pride why he doesn't want to play.

Hopefully Rubio will take time to think deep if he will also file his leave when the new season starts, or maybe it's just all for FIBA and
his main goal is to focus coming back to NBA.

Looking forward to hear some updates with his next journey, for now, let's leave him with his way of curing his mental concern.

It will be much better for him if he cannot hear any news involving his situation and name because that will not help him in his case as there will be a chance that he will bump into an article that is saying nonsense about him and his career, just a click bait so that they can ride the situation while Rubio's case is still hot.

But then again, that will certainly not help him as instead of feeling comfortable that he got some support from his fans and from the basketball community, rather he will feel that he is doubted by many because of that certain article he bumped into.
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In the case of Ben thought it was different, he suffered it when everything went sour, with the Sixers and himself because Ben was a different player in that season. He doesn't want to shoot and then perhaps there is already tension between him the coach and the players themselves.

As compare to Rubio, he was injured that season, so he never see some playing time. Perhaps he just wanted to gave away from the limelight of FIBA as he started very young then and chooses to stay and perhaps focus on his comeback in the NBA.
I agree that the two are different cases. Ben's situation is probably closer to what happened with Markelle Fultz. Remember him? The former no. 1 pick that also became a laughing stock due to his poor shooting and that awkward free throw release. Both suffered the "yips" but Fultz seems to have overcome that unlike Simmons.

Yup, two different situations as Simmons' pride eats his mindset against his former team while Rubio suffers from an injury. Situation
that he can't control, unlike with Simmon, it's his pride why he doesn't want to play.

Hopefully Rubio will take time to think deep if he will also file his leave when the new season starts, or maybe it's just all for FIBA and
his main goal is to focus coming back to NBA.

Looking forward to hear some updates with his next journey, for now, let's leave him with his way of curing his mental concern.
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The Lakers giving Anthony Davis $186,000,000 with a three year extension seems a bit insane given how much time he has missed. He’d better start staying healthy for the amount of money they’re giving him. 62 million dollars when he only plays about 50 games in a good year seems like like overpaying. I sure hope that contract doesn’t come back to bite them.

Anthony Davis is eligible for the maximum contract extension with that huge worth. Therefore, if the given contract is probably below, Davis might just spend the remaining 2 years on his contract and then consider leaving. What the Lakers do is secure him early despite being an injured prone.

In fairness to Anthony Davis, he's the only player I know that even an injury prone, he can unleash his monster performance right away after returning to play.

Referring to his last season performance, Davis was able to keep his average percentage after being sidelined for several games.

Yeah but the NBA is a contract cap league not like the major league baseball league.  Meaning if AD is injured the Lakers won't have any room to sign anyone else.  They are locked into Lebron and AD and both are older and on the downward trajectory of theor careers.  They will sell seats but they aren't going to win anything with old dudes sucking up all the cap room.

The Los Angeles Lakers are obviously not new to the business and they know how to handle anything about cap space.

They also know the consequences of giving huge contracts to their players. These guys are professional.

Anthony Davis is also not new to them being injury prone but as I mentioned, Davis is proven as "always consistent" playing even after an injury. We can't compare him to other players that once experience being injury prone, the performance will also deteriorate and a result, these players are ended up in different teams.

And no, they are not locked or the team is only about just LeBron James and Anthony Davis. Please refer to their performance on the last revamp they did on their roster in the late season. Just came up short in the playoffs but the chemistry is there. Remember that the Lakers are not even expected by the majority to enter the playoffs last season but that was changed after the last revamp, and it's not because of LeBron and Anthony Davis carrying the team.


I very much agree. The latest revamp proved that the Lakers can be more competent as long as they can synchronize their moves and then we have Austin Reaves who showed a sudden improvement as he can now attack a perimeter, what more if D'Angelo Russell was more confident in shooting beyond the arc. It was good but it's not enough that is why this season, they are looking for an improvement that is why they just added one player to their roster and then we have Davis going back as a power forward.
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