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Quote from: OgNasty on October 18, 2023, 03:56:29 PM

Not a good sign that LeBron is already having nightmares and the season hasn’t even started yet. While I do think he’ll have a good season and add to his records, to me the team he’s running with just doesn’t seem good enough to win a title. For that, I think they really needed to be the winners of the Damian Lillard sweepstakes.

Yeah they needed to add to what they had and really didn't. They weren't all that good albeit had a decent run. But 2 main guys another year older isn't going to fare well during the season. They needed to land someone significant that can run the team if Bron and AD are put for any decent amount of time. They seem like a .500 ball club to me which isn't bad but it's more like a second round knockout type team.

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Not a good sign that LeBron is already having nightmares and the season hasn’t even started yet. While I do think he’ll have a good season and add to his records, to me the team he’s running with just doesn’t seem good enough to win a title. For that, I think they really needed to be the winners of the Damian Lillard sweepstakes.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on October 18, 2023, 05:04:42 AM

I will react if that will be the same performance during the regular season. I think they are just letting him to find his comfort zone,
Giannis and the rest of the squad will be there for him.

With the same goal, winning the title, bringing Dame in hope that they will be more competitive. This coming is really expected by the fans.

We never know what will be the strategy here. They just go for whatever will be the outcome during this pre-season and will be back
strong when the regular season begins.

I agree that Dame will do a lot better during the regular season when he spends more time with the team. Remember, this guy has played for Blazers for the past 100 years, so there was a lot of games drawn for him, players knew where to be and many other things that perfected his game, now he is in a new team and nobody really knows him and he is not doing all the superstar stuff that he used to do, he could be doing it if given the chance, but they have Giannis too so the game stops a bit.

I believe that with more time during the regular season and them playing, we are going to end up with a better result without a doubt. I think as long as we end up with something that is better, that should not be an issue for them at all and could do wonders.

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James Harden is absent from training camp today and hasn’t been with the team since Sunday. It looks like he gave it a try but is now back to being on hiatus while trying to force his team’s hand and get him a trade to the Los Angeles Clippers. It seems like this has to happen before the season starts, so I’m expecting to hear something soon.

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Quote from: Jating on October 18, 2023, 08:18:01 AM

He did actually play more offense that Steph did when Durant was with the Warriors, and thats' why he win the MVP finals award and not Steph. And I think Steph is cool with that as he allowed Durant to really shine, and he was just behind supporting Durant.

If we look at Curry's stats, we can say that Curry's credit for winning those titles was no less than Durant's. However, as paradoxical as it may sound, I personally had the impression that Curry was always in Durant's shadow during that period of time, and his performance seemed to fade because of it. Honestly, I'm not sure Curry willingly gave up his role as team leader to Durant at that time.

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I think we can deduce that he was able to play more defense back then because he doesn't have to exert much effort on offense when he was a GSW. The man isn't getting any younger and I'm pretty sure he'll be much needed in offense for the Suns so that's where he'll use more of his energy.

His role hasn't changed much; he's still the main focal point of the team's attack when it comes to scoring. Initially, Curry was supposed to be the primary player, but when Durant joined, he graciously stepped back, acknowledging Durant's reliability. Durant became the primary scorer, and if I remember correctly, he even won multiple Finals MVP awards.

There was a slight difference when Durant was with OKC. Westbrook saw himself on the same level as Durant and didn't let Durant take the lead. This likely contributed to conflicts within the team, ultimately leading to Durant's departure for the Warriors.

Now, when you look at Durant, he's become a complete player. He can defend, chase down opponents due to his height and quickness, and grab rebounds. His only challenge arises when he's posted up by bigger guys like Jokic, as he doesn't have the same physical presence as traditional centers. Nevertheless, Durant is undoubtedly an MVP-caliber player.

Indeed he is one of the best players in the league and most basketball analyst think so. In paper or his work ethic he ain't a lazy man that will just sit around and watch his team defeated unless he is injured.
IMO, Kevin Durant is one of the players that must be defended well. In your example Jokic as bigger man defending him, he can still maneuver and use his speed and Jokic will probably on his back after a little crossover. Players like Aaron Gordon will be the tough players that will guard him because they can equal his speed and height and could even probably block his perimeter shots.
Phoenix Suns is now a monster team offensively, I don't think they would even need to defend well, they will just need to answer back every offense and the missed ones of their opponents is where they will take the lead.

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I think we can deduce that he was able to play more defense back then because he doesn't have to exert much effort on offense when he was a GSW. The man isn't getting any younger and I'm pretty sure he'll be much needed in offense for the Suns so that's where he'll use more of his energy.

His role hasn't changed much; he's still the main focal point of the team's attack when it comes to scoring. Initially, Curry was supposed to be the primary player, but when Durant joined, he graciously stepped back, acknowledging Durant's reliability. Durant became the primary scorer, and if I remember correctly, he even won multiple Finals MVP awards.

There was a slight difference when Durant was with OKC. Westbrook saw himself on the same level as Durant and didn't let Durant take the lead. This likely contributed to conflicts within the team, ultimately leading to Durant's departure for the Warriors.

Now, when you look at Durant, he's become a complete player. He can defend, chase down opponents due to his height and quickness, and grab rebounds. His only challenge arises when he's posted up by bigger guys like Jokic, as he doesn't have the same physical presence as traditional centers. Nevertheless, Durant is undoubtedly an MVP-caliber player.

Yes he was still that go to guy for scoring but I'm talking about the effort he had to put in to create those shots. Defense would focus more on him when he was with OKC so that made it a lot tougher to score and that drains his energy faster. Compare that situation to when he was with Curry and Klay.

He may have improved on the other end of the floor now but his stamina isn't the same as before and his body is more prone to injuries. He and his coach will have to choose where he could spend most of that energy and be more effective.

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Quote from: Yogee on October 18, 2023, 08:14:40 AM

I think we can deduce that he was able to play more defense back then because he doesn't have to exert much effort on offense when he was a GSW. The man isn't getting any younger and I'm pretty sure he'll be much needed in offense for the Suns so that's where he'll use more of his energy.

His role hasn't changed much; he's still the main focal point of the team's attack when it comes to scoring. Initially, Curry was supposed to be the primary player, but when Durant joined, he graciously stepped back, acknowledging Durant's reliability. Durant became the primary scorer, and if I remember correctly, he even won multiple Finals MVP awards.

There was a slight difference when Durant was with OKC. Westbrook saw himself on the same level as Durant and didn't let Durant take the lead. This likely contributed to conflicts within the team, ultimately leading to Durant's departure for the Warriors.

Now, when you look at Durant, he's become a complete player. He can defend, chase down opponents due to his height and quickness, and grab rebounds. His only challenge arises when he's posted up by bigger guys like Jokic, as he doesn't have the same physical presence as traditional centers. Nevertheless, Durant is undoubtedly an MVP-caliber player.

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Quote from: Yogee on October 18, 2023, 08:14:40 AM

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You also can’t sleep on Kevin Durant. While he may be one of the best offensive players to ever shoot the ball, he’s also no slouch on the defensive end. When he was on the Golden State Warriors he was an absolute menace defensively.

I think it's one criticism against Kevin Durant, but when he was with the Warrior, he try to improved his defensive skills, got some chase down blocks and really didn't sleep on defense as compare to the likes of let's say James Harden. Even against one of the great defender in Pat Bev, they have some scuffle and Durant is not going to back down.

I think we can deduce that he was able to play more defense back then because he doesn't have to exert much effort on offense when he was a GSW. The man isn't getting any younger and I'm pretty sure he'll be much needed in offense for the Suns so that's where he'll use more of his energy.

He did actually play more offense that Steph did when Durant was with the Warriors, and thats' why he win the MVP finals award and not Steph. And I think Steph is cool with that as he allowed Durant to really shine, and he was just behind supporting Durant.

But we all know that Warriors is still Steph's team and so Durant will have to move on after winning championships with the Warriors. But I do agree that he is no longer younger anymore and could be adjusting his role so that it won't take a toll on his body as they also have Booker and Beal to work on the Suns offense.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 17, 2023, 09:53:01 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on October 17, 2023, 09:43:22 PM

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You also can’t sleep on Kevin Durant. While he may be one of the best offensive players to ever shoot the ball, he’s also no slouch on the defensive end. When he was on the Golden State Warriors he was an absolute menace defensively.

I think it's one criticism against Kevin Durant, but when he was with the Warrior, he try to improved his defensive skills, got some chase down blocks and really didn't sleep on defense as compare to the likes of let's say James Harden. Even against one of the great defender in Pat Bev, they have some scuffle and Durant is not going to back down.

I think we can deduce that he was able to play more defense back then because he doesn't have to exert much effort on offense when he was a GSW. The man isn't getting any younger and I'm pretty sure he'll be much needed in offense for the Suns so that's where he'll use more of his energy.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on October 18, 2023, 05:04:42 AM

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Quote from: Japinat on October 18, 2023, 01:21:36 AM

Lillard is still struggling in the preseason. In the game against OKC, they lost by 23 points, even after winning two big games earlier. He's shooting 2-11 and only managed to score 5 points in 24 minutes of play. I don't know anymore; it really feels like the system is taking a toll on his stats. His three-point shooting has been really off, with no makes out of 5 attempts.

The Bucks need to sort this out early since the regular season hasn't even kicked off. Hopefully, they'll find a way to get the old Lillard back and make some major adjustments if needed. After all, they brought Lillard in for a reason, and if they can't maximize his potential, I'm worried they might end up with the same fate as last season in the playoffs, or maybe even worse.

I don't believe he is completely comfortable playing with this team and the other players just yet. So this feeling out period is still needed because those numbers are quite poor to say the least for the amount of money they paid for him.
Seeing him in green just didn't feel right to me as I was a Blazers fan and will always see him in red.
Will wait and see next week if things will improve when the regular season kicks off on the 24th.

His buddy CJ was doing pretty well with the Pelicans. It would be a pity to see Lillard struggle with the Bucks, considering he's one of their main players, at least based on his salary. The Bucks needed someone like him, so there were high expectations when they got Lillard. But his numbers aren't all that impressive. I could understand if it was just one game, but it's not. In their game against the Lakers, he also only shot 3-10, though he finished with 14 points.

Let's compare his performance this preseason, which is pretty poor when you look at his overall performance last season with the Blazers, where he finished with a 46% field goal percentage. Now, in these last two games, if we combine them to get an average, it's only 24% – very low! Is it not 'Dame time' yet? Grin

I will react if that will be the same performance during the regular season. I think they are just letting him to find his comfort zone,
Giannis and the rest of the squad will be there for him.

With the same goal, winning the title, bringing Dame in hope that they will be more competitive. This coming is really expected by the fans.

We never know what will be the strategy here. They just go for whatever will be the outcome during this pre-season and will be back
strong when the regular season begins.

We're about to find out soon since the regular season starts in less than a week. The schedule indicates that the first game is on October 24, but the Bucks' first game is only on October 26 against the 76ers, and it's a home game for them. So, Lillard should play better, given his familiarity with their home court, even though he's relatively new to the team.

However, there's still a lingering doubt. No star player would perform poorly in the preseason and then suddenly shine in the regular season. What's going on? Is he trying to keep us guessing or perhaps trying to solve a puzzle here?

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Quote from: Viscore on October 18, 2023, 02:58:23 AM

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Quote from: Japinat on October 18, 2023, 01:21:36 AM

Lillard is still struggling in the preseason. In the game against OKC, they lost by 23 points, even after winning two big games earlier. He's shooting 2-11 and only managed to score 5 points in 24 minutes of play. I don't know anymore; it really feels like the system is taking a toll on his stats. His three-point shooting has been really off, with no makes out of 5 attempts.

The Bucks need to sort this out early since the regular season hasn't even kicked off. Hopefully, they'll find a way to get the old Lillard back and make some major adjustments if needed. After all, they brought Lillard in for a reason, and if they can't maximize his potential, I'm worried they might end up with the same fate as last season in the playoffs, or maybe even worse.

I don't believe he is completely comfortable playing with this team and the other players just yet. So this feeling out period is still needed because those numbers are quite poor to say the least for the amount of money they paid for him.
Seeing him in green just didn't feel right to me as I was a Blazers fan and will always see him in red.
Will wait and see next week if things will improve when the regular season kicks off on the 24th.

His buddy CJ was doing pretty well with the Pelicans. It would be a pity to see Lillard struggle with the Bucks, considering he's one of their main players, at least based on his salary. The Bucks needed someone like him, so there were high expectations when they got Lillard. But his numbers aren't all that impressive. I could understand if it was just one game, but it's not. In their game against the Lakers, he also only shot 3-10, though he finished with 14 points.

Let's compare his performance this preseason, which is pretty poor when you look at his overall performance last season with the Blazers, where he finished with a 46% field goal percentage. Now, in these last two games, if we combine them to get an average, it's only 24% – very low! Is it not 'Dame time' yet? Grin

I will react if that will be the same performance during the regular season. I think they are just letting him to find his comfort zone,
Giannis and the rest of the squad will be there for him.

With the same goal, winning the title, bringing Dame in hope that they will be more competitive. This coming is really expected by the fans.

We never know what will be the strategy here. They just go for whatever will be the outcome during this pre-season and will be back
strong when the regular season begins.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 18, 2023, 01:21:36 AM

Lillard is still struggling in the preseason. In the game against OKC, they lost by 23 points, even after winning two big games earlier. He's shooting 2-11 and only managed to score 5 points in 24 minutes of play. I don't know anymore; it really feels like the system is taking a toll on his stats. His three-point shooting has been really off, with no makes out of 5 attempts.

The Bucks need to sort this out early since the regular season hasn't even kicked off. Hopefully, they'll find a way to get the old Lillard back and make some major adjustments if needed. After all, they brought Lillard in for a reason, and if they can't maximize his potential, I'm worried they might end up with the same fate as last season in the playoffs, or maybe even worse.

I don't believe he is completely comfortable playing with this team and the other players just yet. So this feeling out period is still needed because those numbers are quite poor to say the least for the amount of money they paid for him.
Seeing him in green just didn't feel right to me as I was a Blazers fan and will always see him in red.
Will wait and see next week if things will improve when the regular season kicks off on the 24th.

His buddy CJ was doing pretty well with the Pelicans. It would be a pity to see Lillard struggle with the Bucks, considering he's one of their main players, at least based on his salary. The Bucks needed someone like him, so there were high expectations when they got Lillard. But his numbers aren't all that impressive. I could understand if it was just one game, but it's not. In their game against the Lakers, he also only shot 3-10, though he finished with 14 points.

Let's compare his performance this preseason, which is pretty poor when you look at his overall performance last season with the Blazers, where he finished with a 46% field goal percentage. Now, in these last two games, if we combine them to get an average, it's only 24% – very low! Is it not 'Dame time' yet? Grin

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Quote from: Japinat on October 18, 2023, 01:21:36 AM

Lillard is still struggling in the preseason. In the game against OKC, they lost by 23 points, even after winning two big games earlier. He's shooting 2-11 and only managed to score 5 points in 24 minutes of play. I don't know anymore; it really feels like the system is taking a toll on his stats. His three-point shooting has been really off, with no makes out of 5 attempts.

The Bucks need to sort this out early since the regular season hasn't even kicked off. Hopefully, they'll find a way to get the old Lillard back and make some major adjustments if needed. After all, they brought Lillard in for a reason, and if they can't maximize his potential, I'm worried they might end up with the same fate as last season in the playoffs, or maybe even worse.

I don't believe he is completely comfortable playing with this team and the other players just yet. So this feeling out period is still needed because those numbers are quite poor to say the least for the amount of money they paid for him.
Seeing him in green just didn't feel right to me as I was a Blazers fan and will always see him in red.
Will wait and see next week if things will improve when the regular season kicks off on the 24th.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 18, 2023, 01:21:36 AM

Lillard is still struggling in the preseason. In the game against OKC, they lost by 23 points, even after winning two big games earlier. He's shooting 2-11 and only managed to score 5 points in 24 minutes of play. I don't know anymore; it really feels like the system is taking a toll on his stats. His three-point shooting has been really off, with no makes out of 5 attempts.

The Bucks need to sort this out early since the regular season hasn't even kicked off. Hopefully, they'll find a way to get the old Lillard back and make some major adjustments if needed. After all, they brought Lillard in for a reason, and if they can't maximize his potential, I'm worried they might end up with the same fate as last season in the playoffs, or maybe even worse.

Adjusting to the new team may take some time for Lillard but definitely the Bucks is one the teams to beat with Lillard's addition to the team. Lillard and Giannis' pick and roll play will be deadly once that machine start rolling with two shooting guards waiting in the wings for the kick-out pass as every now and then someone is going to be open for that open rainbow shot.

The only cons i see of Lillard's addition to the Bucks is his defense. We all knew that he is a liability when it comes to that department so i'm thrilled on how the coaching staff solve that problem.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 18, 2023, 01:21:36 AM

Lillard is still struggling in the preseason. In the game against OKC, they lost by 23 points, even after winning two big games earlier. He's shooting 2-11 and only managed to score 5 points in 24 minutes of play. I don't know anymore; it really feels like the system is taking a toll on his stats. His three-point shooting has been really off, with no makes out of 5 attempts.

The Bucks need to sort this out early since the regular season hasn't even kicked off. Hopefully, they'll find a way to get the old Lillard back and make some major adjustments if needed. After all, they brought Lillard in for a reason, and if they can't maximize his potential, I'm worried they might end up with the same fate as last season in the playoffs, or maybe even worse.

Things have taken a sudden turn for Lillard. This guy could drop 50 points in a game with his incredible 3 point shooting, but it looks like he's still struggling. Despite getting decent minutes, he hasn't been able to make the right adjustments to make his team look more exciting.

If his struggles persist, and his performance doesn't improve, Giannis might have to carry the team on his shoulders, which is no small feat, considering he's done it in the past. But I doubt it will come to that point, because Lillard is a born competitor. He won't allow himself to play at a lower level, which is the exact opposite of what he did back in Portland.

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Lillard is still struggling in the preseason. In the game against OKC, they lost by 23 points, even after winning two big games earlier. He's shooting 2-11 and only managed to score 5 points in 24 minutes of play. I don't know anymore; it really feels like the system is taking a toll on his stats. His three-point shooting has been really off, with no makes out of 5 attempts.

The Bucks need to sort this out early since the regular season hasn't even kicked off. Hopefully, they'll find a way to get the old Lillard back and make some major adjustments if needed. After all, they brought Lillard in for a reason, and if they can't maximize his potential, I'm worried they might end up with the same fate as last season in the playoffs, or maybe even worse.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on October 17, 2023, 11:55:26 AM

just wait until the regular season to come as well as the in-season tournament and what might be excited to watch would be on West C and East B, (I've been doing some bets already even it's only the preseason). For West C we have that two 7 footers Victor and Chet and they are fun to watch even in their preseason match just recently, flexing how they dominate the court. For East B, I think it would be excited to watch Bucks and Heat. I wish he will recover, what a waste of a young rising star if he'll be gone for good tbh.

Chet and Victor would not be such a big factor for their respective teams' performance this season I would say, perhaps, more so for OKC than San Antonio Spurs because OKC already have such an incredible squad with SGA, Josh Giddey, and Jalen William, the latter, who seemed to have improved a lot during this pre season and he's been a such very good choice defensively too, so despite the addition of Chet being a complement to squad and bringing about a better dynamism to the roster, a lot of the teams' play would still have to go through SGA and Giddey. As for Victor I really don't have a perfect picture of how the season would turnout for him, but then I think the hype and the expectation might be too much for him for his first season in the NBA.

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I still do not completely understand why they wanted to get rid of CP3, he would have fit that team like glove, he would be their point guard and would feed everyone and would be great defensively for them too.

The team might have let go of Chris Paul because he was expensive, getting older, and could get hurt (Just like many other when getting old except Lebron James). They might have also wanted a different kind of point guard for their playing style. Bradley Beal is the best example. Considering also another team might have offered something really good in a trade. Plus, how well CP3 got along with his teammates could be a reason too. Having KD and Booker from last season is too much.

I think it's more of his age, and in his last season with the Suns, he was injured and so the team had a hard time in the playoffs even though they already have Durant that time. Chris though has put in some impressive numbers with the Suns, going all the way to the finals. But they lack the experience back then that's why they didn't win. And in the next season, they set a record for the franchise if I'm not mistaken for the number of win in a regular season. But still they fell short again in the second round. And then last year it was a disaster for him as he got injured. And then they have to let go of their coach as well. So maybe the new management wanted a fresh start and so they have to let go of CP3.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on October 17, 2023, 07:46:04 PM

I still do not completely understand why they wanted to get rid of CP3, he would have fit that team like glove, he would be their point guard and would feed everyone and would be great defensively for them too.

The team might have let go of Chris Paul because he was expensive, getting older, and could get hurt (Just like many other when getting old except Lebron James). They might have also wanted a different kind of point guard for their playing style. Bradley Beal is the best example. Considering also another team might have offered something really good in a trade. Plus, how well CP3 got along with his teammates could be a reason too. Having KD and Booker from last season is too much.

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