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August 06, 2023, 04:25:40 AM
Ricky Rubio announced his stepping out from professional activity to take care of his mental health. So, the World Cup is coming and he'll be out there for sure.

Does this means that it's possible that he's also going to be out of NBA and won't play for the Cavs when the regular season starts if he's not yet okay?


Nah, I don't think he'll give up his NBA career, it's a bit early for the 2019 FIBA MVP to give up this early. I mean that's his bread and butter right there and his passion as well. If he thought skipping the FIBA world cup could bring goodness to his career, pretty much everyone in the same shoe will do the same. It's also good for his mental health that the Spanish team respected his decision.
He should be more ready in the coming season so he won't lose but improve his value, otherwise he's going to disappear unnoticeably like the other role players in the NBA, since he's actually close to it after recovering from an injury he was struggling real hard when he have rejoined his team in the middle of the season.

Ricky Rubio is still young at 32 years old, (although I thought that he is a bit older). It's good that we here sports athletes citing mental health as a issues and it's concerning.

However, I also do agree that he won't simply retire because of that reasons, maybe he just nee to skip the World Cup and the pressures of playing for his country again. And he is coming from injury too and perhaps this contributed to his having a mental breakdown. Nevertheless, if he is still as competitive as he is, then he will continue to play in the NBA.

Working with your mental health needs deeper attention, if he chooses to take care of it and step away from the world cup

It's his decision to make and in terms of NBA career, I do hope that those who are surrounding him and helping him
with his health are really guiding him with whatever path he's trying to proceed. He's still young and there's still good
amount of money that he can take if he will continue playing with his Cavs team.
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August 05, 2023, 04:34:10 PM
Ricky Rubio announced his stepping out from professional activity to take care of his mental health. So, the World Cup is coming and he'll be out there for sure.

Does this means that it's possible that he's also going to be out of NBA and won't play for the Cavs when the regular season starts if he's not yet okay?


Nah, I don't think he'll give up his NBA career, it's a bit early for the 2019 FIBA MVP to give up this early. I mean that's his bread and butter right there and his passion as well. If he thought skipping the FIBA world cup could bring goodness to his career, pretty much everyone in the same shoe will do the same. It's also good for his mental health that the Spanish team respected his decision.
He should be more ready in the coming season so he won't lose but improve his value, otherwise he's going to disappear unnoticeably like the other role players in the NBA, since he's actually close to it after recovering from an injury he was struggling real hard when he have rejoined his team in the middle of the season.

Ricky Rubio is still young at 32 years old, (although I thought that he is a bit older). It's good that we here sports athletes citing mental health as a issues and it's concerning.

However, I also do agree that he won't simply retire because of that reasons, maybe he just nee to skip the World Cup and the pressures of playing for his country again. And he is coming from injury too and perhaps this contributed to his having a mental breakdown. Nevertheless, if he is still as competitive as he is, then he will continue to play in the NBA.
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August 05, 2023, 04:20:49 PM

It seems some news sites are posting different information regarding Harden. Where did you find information that he re-signed an extension a few weeks ago?
I checked the basketball-reference website, and it says he doesn't have any contract extension but only a player option for next season. Also, there was info earlier that Harden is not eligible for a contract extension because he signed a two-year deal with the 76ers last offseason.

I can’t view your link and l’m not sure if that twitter status is a reliable source because sports news outlet including the official NBA website already published the news about Harden sign an extension contract with the Phila. You can read the official news on this article https://www.nba.com/news/harden-agrees-to-2-year-68-6m-deal-with-76ers.

I'm not surprised why Harden declined the player option that will give him a better pay because Phila is the best team for him to have a shot for a championship because of Embiid. I think this is the most potential team for him since he is starting to be out of his prime like KD. It's only a matter of time until they suffer same fate with Westbrook career.

You linked to an article from last year that was published on the NBA website on July 30, 2022. In fact, I wrote about the same two-year contract in my previous post. Pay attention that according to this contract, Harden got $33 million for the 22/23 season, and he will get another $35 million for the 23/24 season. The upcoming season is a player option that he actually used.
Moreover, the 76ers are clearly not the best team for him since he wants to be traded to the Clippers.
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August 05, 2023, 02:45:18 PM
I don’t think next year is a player option for Harden. He just resigned an extension a few weeks ago, so it would be really weird if the first year of his extension was a player option…

It seems some news sites are posting different information regarding Harden. Where did you find information that he re-signed an extension a few weeks ago?
I checked the basketball-reference website, and it says he doesn't have any contract extension but only a player option for next season. Also, there was info earlier that Harden is not eligible for a contract extension because he signed a two-year deal with the 76ers last offseason.

I can’t view your link and l’m not sure if that twitter status is a reliable source because sports news outlet including the official NBA website already published the news about Harden sign an extension contract with the Phila. You can read the official news on this article https://www.nba.com/news/harden-agrees-to-2-year-68-6m-deal-with-76ers.

I'm not surprised why Harden declined the player option that will give him a better pay because Phila is the best team for him to have a shot for a championship because of Embiid. I think this is the most potential team for him since he is starting to be out of his prime like KD. It's only a matter of time until they suffer same fate with Westbrook career.
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August 05, 2023, 02:23:13 PM
I don’t think next year is a player option for Harden. He just resigned an extension a few weeks ago, so it would be really weird if the first year of his extension was a player option…

It seems some news sites are posting different information regarding Harden. Where did you find information that he re-signed an extension a few weeks ago?
I checked the basketball-reference website, and it says he doesn't have any contract extension but only a player option for next season. Also, there was info earlier that Harden is not eligible for a contract extension because he signed a two-year deal with the 76ers last offseason.
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August 05, 2023, 01:59:30 PM
For it's the buildup, and the chemistry of the team that really brought them into championship level. Murray just got injured in a prior season and then Porter Jr if I'm not mistaken has suffered from back spam that really bother him.

And with the team healthy last season, we can see how they become the top contender in the West and then totally dominated the playoffs although they have to contend against Booker and Durant.

But after that, it was a mismatch with Miami in the finals.
I like it how people talk about in success terms like a teams whole point is to get a win. But in reality that is not the case at all however people end up failing to realize that. The point of a team for an owner is to be a good investment, would a win make it better?

Of course it would, but also the point is the fact that if you are making a lot of money even without a win, then there is no need to keep overworking on it. Look at Knicks, they make profit every single year, hence never need to win anything, and the value of the team goes up. Having Lebron and AD on your team may or may not get you a ring, it once did, you just keep them because it makes the company a lot more valuable and that's how your teams value goes up.
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August 05, 2023, 12:30:24 PM
Ricky Rubio announced his stepping out from professional activity to take care of his mental health. So, the World Cup is coming and he'll be out there for sure.

Does this means that it's possible that he's also going to be out of NBA and won't play for the Cavs when the regular season starts if he's not yet okay?


Nah, I don't think he'll give up his NBA career, it's a bit early for the 2019 FIBA MVP to give up this early. I mean that's his bread and butter right there and his passion as well. If he thought skipping the FIBA world cup could bring goodness to his career, pretty much everyone in the same shoe will do the same. It's also good for his mental health that the Spanish team respected his decision.
He should be more ready in the coming season so he won't lose but improve his value, otherwise he's going to disappear unnoticeably like the other role players in the NBA, since he's actually close to it after recovering from an injury he was struggling real hard when he have rejoined his team in the middle of the season.


It's very unlikely that Rubio will give up his NBA career. And it's common for NBA stars to take a pass on world cups, especially the American superstars since it is the Olympics that they are giving more prestige. Rubio is already 32, so he better takes care of himself physically and mentally if he wants to continue playing in the NBA once his contract expires after the 2024-25 season.

And Rubio will be excited in the coming NBA season with the arrival of Max Strus to Cleveland. Last season they already made it 4th in the Eastern Conference during the first-year stint of Donovan Mitchell so I am expecting the team to be better this coming season.
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August 05, 2023, 11:58:48 AM
The Lakers giving Anthony Davis $186,000,000 with a three year extension seems a bit insane given how much time he has missed. He’d better start staying healthy for the amount of money they’re giving him. 62 million dollars when he only plays about 50 games in a good year seems like like overpaying. I sure hope that contract doesn’t come back to bite them.

Anthony Davis is eligible for the maximum contract extension with that huge worth. Therefore, if the given contract is probably below, Davis might just spend the remaining 2 years on his contract and then consider leaving. What the Lakers do is secure him early despite being an injured prone.

In fairness to Anthony Davis, he's the only player I know that even an injury prone, he can unleash his monster performance right away after returning to play.

Referring to his last season performance, Davis was able to keep his average percentage after being sidelined for several games.

Yeah but the NBA is a contract cap league not like the major league baseball league.  Meaning if AD is injured the Lakers won't have any room to sign anyone else.  They are locked into Lebron and AD and both are older and on the downward trajectory of theor careers.  They will sell seats but they aren't going to win anything with old dudes sucking up all the cap room.

I think they are still playing well; LeBron and Davis have good statistics during the playoffs. It's just that they fall short because they lack some players who could improve their team, particularly on the defensive side. If they can sign a big man to help Davis in the paint and consistent 3-point shooters, I believe they could become a championship team.

The good thing with the Lakers is that they already have LeBron and AD, both of whom have won championships together. So their teammates have confidence in them and trust that they can lead again. Yes, they lost to the Nuggets, which doesn't look good as they were swept. However, let's see in the coming season, and I believe they'll avenge their losses, especially when both AD and LeBron are healthy.

That is exactly what they are doing now that is why they obtained Jaxson Hayes from the free agency to become the team's new center because Anthony Davis is now going back to his original role being a power forward.

Part of their plan is to mimic the roster they had during the time when they won the championship a few years ago, which is why Davis is going back to fit and joining Lebron in the offense. And if I'm not mistaken, they are going to develop D'Angelo and Reaves as well to be more confident in shooting beyond the arc because that's what they lacked last season.
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August 05, 2023, 11:51:37 AM
The Lakers giving Anthony Davis $186,000,000 with a three year extension seems a bit insane given how much time he has missed. He’d better start staying healthy for the amount of money they’re giving him. 62 million dollars when he only plays about 50 games in a good year seems like like overpaying. I sure hope that contract doesn’t come back to bite them.
It's like they're having him the typical Lakers player so that they've got an identity through him. But with the hype that other players getting with huge contracts, I guess that the management has just happened to offer him somewhat on this bracket so that he won't move to another team and won't entertain any other deal that's surrounding him. In crucial times especially when they're approaching the playoffs despite having an injury, when he enters the court, he performs well which he should really be doing.

What happened last season became a huge factor why the Lakers management opted to give AD with a 3-year $186 Million contract, sure he was injured during the regular games but that didn't matter to them because AD made a difference during their playoff run as the team made it to the Western conference finals. Without him on the equation, the team will not get to that point because LeBron cannot do things on his own anymore.
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August 05, 2023, 11:47:09 AM
Ricky Rubio announced his stepping out from professional activity to take care of his mental health. So, the World Cup is coming and he'll be out there for sure.

Does this means that it's possible that he's also going to be out of NBA and won't play for the Cavs when the regular season starts if he's not yet okay?


Nah, I don't think he'll give up his NBA career, it's a bit early for the 2019 FIBA MVP to give up this early. I mean that's his bread and butter right there and his passion as well. If he thought skipping the FIBA world cup could bring goodness to his career, pretty much everyone in the same shoe will do the same. It's also good for his mental health that the Spanish team respected his decision.
He should be more ready in the coming season so he won't lose but improve his value, otherwise he's going to disappear unnoticeably like the other role players in the NBA, since he's actually close to it after recovering from an injury he was struggling real hard when he have rejoined his team in the middle of the season.
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August 05, 2023, 11:02:49 AM
The most talked trade this summer is still on the advantage of the Miami Heat. That being said, the trade about Lillard is now composed of a 4-team trade because the Portland insists that they don't want Tyler Herro on their roster, they just wanted a 4-5 future round picks, specifically first rounders. Hence why 4 teams are now involved in it.

A New Damian Lillard 4-Team Trade Where Everybody Wins

Portland Trail Blazers Receive: James Harden's expiring contract (can be flipped later), Kyle Lowry's expiring contract, Jaime Jacquez, Nikola Jović, a 2028 first-round pick from Miami, a 2030 first-round pick from Miami and a 2030 second-round pick from Chicago

Miami Heat Receive: Damian Lillard, Jusuf Nurkić, a 2029 second-round pick from Philadelphia and a 2028 second-round pick from Chicago

Philadelphia 76ers Receive: Zach LaVine, Tyler Herro and a 2029 second-round pick from Portland

Chicago Bulls Receive: Tobias Harris' expiring contract, Caleb Martin, Keon Johnson, a 2029 first-round pick swap with the 76ers and a 2030 first-round pick from Philadelphia
Source: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10084438-a-new-damian-lillard-4-team-trade-where-everybody-wins

What do you guys think about this?

It looks like the Blazers are planning to rebuild their team and become the next Rockets considering they want to get so many draft picks for Lillard. Overall this deal looks good, although I think the Heat would be making a mistake if they parted ways with both Herro and Martin.
By the way, I just now noticed that next season is a player option for Harden, which means he has the right to become an unrestricted free agent. So if he really wants to leave the 76ers, I wonder why he hasn't exercised that right yet.

I don’t think next year is a player option for Harden. He just resigned an extension a few weeks ago, so it would be really weird if the first year of his extension was a player option…

Miami is going to end up messing up their future to get a season with Dame, but it’s their best chance at getting a chip before Butler ages any more.

It's a now or never situation for the Miami Heat that is why there are so inclined in acquiring Damian Lillard even if it will cost them that much and it's not a guarantee too but they are willing to take a risk for that while Lillard is still interested to join their roster, remember that Lillard's first choice was the Golden State Warriors but it did changed when the Warriors acquired Chris Paul before Lillard had the chance to say that he wanted a trade request towards them.
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August 05, 2023, 09:19:39 AM
For it's the buildup, and the chemistry of the team that really brought them into championship level. Murray just got injured in a prior season and then Porter Jr if I'm not mistaken has suffered from back spam that really bother him.

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Murray and Porter Jr. are two pretty good players, in fact, they have both become core players for the Denver Nuggets, which has led the Nuggets to win the 2022/23 NBA.
But of the two, I tend to be more amazed by Murray's game in the play-off matches.

Prior to his injuries, everyone thought that he is done and it's a career ending injuries for him. But like Klay Thompson, he comes back fully healed and then as if nothing happens to win and he was instrumental to the team. Him and Jokic are the best tandem that we have.

I have not heard of any injuries they have experienced or maybe I am not up to date on the development of the Nuggets players.

If the injuries are not too serious and you can still play, I think next season the Nuggets can still be the strongest and fight for the title again.

Currently none, last year they are all healthy and we have seen that they are 100% that's why they win the championship. Most likely teams that are healthy throughout might have a good chance to win. But we haven't seen teams win the NBA championship back to back so let's see if the Nuggets can do it this season.
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August 05, 2023, 09:10:07 AM
Ricky Rubio announced his stepping out from professional activity to take care of his mental health. So, the World Cup is coming and he'll be out there for sure.

Does this means that it's possible that he's also going to be out of NBA and won't play for the Cavs when the regular season starts if he's not yet okay?

Source: Ricky Rubio out of World Cup due to mental health problems
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August 05, 2023, 09:06:10 AM
For it's the buildup, and the chemistry of the team that really brought them into championship level. Murray just got injured in a prior season and then Porter Jr if I'm not mistaken has suffered from back spam that really bother him.

-snip-
Murray and Porter Jr. are two pretty good players, in fact, they have both become core players for the Denver Nuggets, which has led the Nuggets to win the 2022/23 NBA.
But of the two, I tend to be more amazed by Murray's game in the play-off matches.
I have not heard of any injuries they have experienced or maybe I am not up to date on the development of the Nuggets players.

If the injuries are not too serious and you can still play, I think next season the Nuggets can still be the strongest and fight for the title again.
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August 05, 2023, 08:41:08 AM
The Lakers giving Anthony Davis $186,000,000 with a three year extension seems a bit insane given how much time he has missed. He’d better start staying healthy for the amount of money they’re giving him. 62 million dollars when he only plays about 50 games in a good year seems like like overpaying. I sure hope that contract doesn’t come back to bite them.
It's like they're having him the typical Lakers player so that they've got an identity through him. But with the hype that other players getting with huge contracts, I guess that the management has just happened to offer him somewhat on this bracket so that he won't move to another team and won't entertain any other deal that's surrounding him. In crucial times especially when they're approaching the playoffs despite having an injury, when he enters the court, he performs well which he should really be doing.
So the plague is starting to affect every team. Grin Big contracts for popular players.
I also disagree with the amount given but the Lakers may have loved his performance even though it was short. I mean, it's not easy to find a big man that can move, shoot, and block like Anthony Davis so protecting him with a nice contract will be given and that's also to avoid him getting some ideas of joining other teams who will give him a better deal.
The Lakers don't really have a star after Lebron and AD so I guess they can pay up. I don't think they will be sacrificing too much considering how underpaid their bench and roleplayers are.
Let's just wish the Lakers can get back the worth of their payment by AD being more healthy this season and the next 5 years.
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August 05, 2023, 08:25:05 AM
The Lakers giving Anthony Davis $186,000,000 with a three year extension seems a bit insane given how much time he has missed. He’d better start staying healthy for the amount of money they’re giving him. 62 million dollars when he only plays about 50 games in a good year seems like like overpaying. I sure hope that contract doesn’t come back to bite them.
It's like they're having him the typical Lakers player so that they've got an identity through him. But with the hype that other players getting with huge contracts, I guess that the management has just happened to offer him somewhat on this bracket so that he won't move to another team and won't entertain any other deal that's surrounding him. In crucial times especially when they're approaching the playoffs despite having an injury, when he enters the court, he performs well which he should really be doing.

And with their current lineup, this could be their last chance to have a run to the NBA championship again. Lebron + AD, and the Reaves, D'Lo, Hachimura, newly acquired Hayes to play center and then Vando as their defender specialist and then the addition as well of Gabe Vincent from Miami and the athletic Cam Reddish who should be given enough playing time hopefully so that we can see how good he was, just like when he is still with the Hawks. So it's a very effective lineup if you look at it on paper and only the chemistry is going to be tested here.

Yes, everyone knows that he is very prominent player for Lakher team but don't you think this is nothing but an insane amount of money what they offered him? And I also agree with you guys that for the money that is being offered to him, he better stay fit and play as much as possible.

On paper, this team does look very incredible to be honest. They should have a good performance with this team.

The thing about the players not going to another team is honestly a genuine worry for any team. Especially because now seems to be a time when players are raising the voice about them joining another team which is their favourite. So the teams have to go far and beyond to make sure that the players are going to stay in the team.

I would say the lineup was really good. If we based their performance last season, I can say that it's already impressive as some players came late in the season when Westbrook was traded, and some players on the current lineup like Reeves were given good minutes. For the coming season, they made some good moves by adding more players that could help on both offense and defense. Additionally, their chemistry will improve as well, so this new Lakers roster is a very dangerous team as they can dominate inside, and their defense has been impressive as well.
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August 05, 2023, 08:10:24 AM
The Lakers giving Anthony Davis $186,000,000 with a three year extension seems a bit insane given how much time he has missed. He’d better start staying healthy for the amount of money they’re giving him. 62 million dollars when he only plays about 50 games in a good year seems like like overpaying. I sure hope that contract doesn’t come back to bite them.
It's like they're having him the typical Lakers player so that they've got an identity through him. But with the hype that other players getting with huge contracts, I guess that the management has just happened to offer him somewhat on this bracket so that he won't move to another team and won't entertain any other deal that's surrounding him. In crucial times especially when they're approaching the playoffs despite having an injury, when he enters the court, he performs well which he should really be doing.

And with their current lineup, this could be their last chance to have a run to the NBA championship again. Lebron + AD, and the Reaves, D'Lo, Hachimura, newly acquired Hayes to play center and then Vando as their defender specialist and then the addition as well of Gabe Vincent from Miami and the athletic Cam Reddish who should be given enough playing time hopefully so that we can see how good he was, just like when he is still with the Hawks. So it's a very effective lineup if you look at it on paper and only the chemistry is going to be tested here.

Yes, everyone knows that he is very prominent player for Lakher team but don't you think this is nothing but an insane amount of money what they offered him? And I also agree with you guys that for the money that is being offered to him, he better stay fit and play as much as possible.

On paper, this team does look very incredible to be honest. They should have a good performance with this team.

The thing about the players not going to another team is honestly a genuine worry for any team. Especially because now seems to be a time when players are raising the voice about them joining another team which is their favourite. So the teams have to go far and beyond to make sure that the players are going to stay in the team.
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August 05, 2023, 05:53:16 AM
The Lakers giving Anthony Davis $186,000,000 with a three year extension seems a bit insane given how much time he has missed. He’d better start staying healthy for the amount of money they’re giving him. 62 million dollars when he only plays about 50 games in a good year seems like like overpaying. I sure hope that contract doesn’t come back to bite them.
It's like they're having him the typical Lakers player so that they've got an identity through him. But with the hype that other players getting with huge contracts, I guess that the management has just happened to offer him somewhat on this bracket so that he won't move to another team and won't entertain any other deal that's surrounding him. In crucial times especially when they're approaching the playoffs despite having an injury, when he enters the court, he performs well which he should really be doing.

And with their current lineup, this could be their last chance to have a run to the NBA championship again. Lebron + AD, and the Reaves, D'Lo, Hachimura, newly acquired Hayes to play center and then Vando as their defender specialist and then the addition as well of Gabe Vincent from Miami and the athletic Cam Reddish who should be given enough playing time hopefully so that we can see how good he was, just like when he is still with the Hawks. So it's a very effective lineup if you look at it on paper and only the chemistry is going to be tested here.
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August 05, 2023, 05:04:50 AM
The Lakers giving Anthony Davis $186,000,000 with a three year extension seems a bit insane given how much time he has missed. He’d better start staying healthy for the amount of money they’re giving him. 62 million dollars when he only plays about 50 games in a good year seems like like overpaying. I sure hope that contract doesn’t come back to bite them.

Anthony Davis is eligible for the maximum contract extension with that huge worth. Therefore, if the given contract is probably below, Davis might just spend the remaining 2 years on his contract and then consider leaving. What the Lakers do is secure him early despite being an injured prone.

In fairness to Anthony Davis, he's the only player I know that even an injury prone, he can unleash his monster performance right away after returning to play.

Referring to his last season performance, Davis was able to keep his average percentage after being sidelined for several games.

Yeah but the NBA is a contract cap league not like the major league baseball league.  Meaning if AD is injured the Lakers won't have any room to sign anyone else.  They are locked into Lebron and AD and both are older and on the downward trajectory of theor careers.  They will sell seats but they aren't going to win anything with old dudes sucking up all the cap room.

I think they are still playing well; LeBron and Davis have good statistics during the playoffs. It's just that they fall short because they lack some players who could improve their team, particularly on the defensive side. If they can sign a big man to help Davis in the paint and consistent 3-point shooters, I believe they could become a championship team.

The good thing with the Lakers is that they already have LeBron and AD, both of whom have won championships together. So their teammates have confidence in them and trust that they can lead again. Yes, they lost to the Nuggets, which doesn't look good as they were swept. However, let's see in the coming season, and I believe they'll avenge their losses, especially when both AD and LeBron are healthy.

They didn't expect how lethal the line up of Denver last season so I guess they learn a lot with that. Their current roster is already a title contender since they got a lot of talents acquired this off season so for sure many Lakers fans are excited to see their hop again due to their new addition. But let see how far they can go since its up to their coach now on how they can facilitate their strong roster since they need to develop their teams confidence and chemistry to work well together.

For it's the buildup, and the chemistry of the team that really brought them into championship level. Murray just got injured in a prior season and then Porter Jr if I'm not mistaken has suffered from back spam that really bother him.

And with the team healthy last season, we can see how they become the top contender in the West and then totally dominated the playoffs although they have to contend against Booker and Durant.

But after that, it was a mismatch with Miami in the finals.
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August 05, 2023, 05:04:10 AM
The Lakers giving Anthony Davis $186,000,000 with a three year extension seems a bit insane given how much time he has missed. He’d better start staying healthy for the amount of money they’re giving him. 62 million dollars when he only plays about 50 games in a good year seems like like overpaying. I sure hope that contract doesn’t come back to bite them.
It's like they're having him the typical Lakers player so that they've got an identity through him. But with the hype that other players getting with huge contracts, I guess that the management has just happened to offer him somewhat on this bracket so that he won't move to another team and won't entertain any other deal that's surrounding him. In crucial times especially when they're approaching the playoffs despite having an injury, when he enters the court, he performs well which he should really be doing.
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