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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 12, 2023, 09:39:07 PM

Quote from: MK-74 on July 12, 2023, 09:24:07 PM

James Harden has stated again that he wants to be traded to the Sixers management.
Harden wants to leave the team, Los Angeles Clippers are being considered for a trade, but there is no progress at the moment.

Harden is not a special player anymore. He is more a liability IMO as anyone who takes him has to worry that they will be the 4th team he wants traded from. He's not worth the risk or the money.

Not only that, but the team that he wanted to be traded is already loaded with stars and good second stringers. If Clippers will pursue him, then obviously they will lose a lot of good rotational players and most likely future draft picks as well.

And as you have said, he might not be in his prime years or maybe he has lost some steps. And he could be a liability for anytime right now specially if he will commit a lot of turnovers which he is prone to.

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I guess he was really given the green signal to shoot that time. But with Dallas, they want a true center which Wood didn't provide and that's why he was released and teams are not keen on his talents anymore, I reckon.

He isn't a real threat as a center despite his size, which can be seen as a liability. However, he can contribute significantly in terms of scoring. Looking at his stats from last season, he averaged 16.6 points per game (PPG), which is already a good contribution. Therefore, I believe he would fit well with a team that prioritizes offense over defense and values ball movement.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/woodch01.html

But if Lakers or the Warriors are the team that are looking for a good center, then they are loaded with scorers already, which make Christian Wood a liability to them. And again, he is a good scoring threat, but it seems they are looking for a center that is in the mold of let's say Ayton or even Joel Embiid.

So as much as his stats is that good, he might not be a perfect fit for a offensive team, in my opinion.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 13, 2023, 04:37:17 AM

I guess he was really given the green signal to shoot that time. But with Dallas, they want a true center which Wood didn't provide and that's why he was released and teams are not keen on his talents anymore, I reckon.

He isn't a real threat as a center despite his size, which can be seen as a liability. However, he can contribute significantly in terms of scoring. Looking at his stats from last season, he averaged 16.6 points per game (PPG), which is already a good contribution. Therefore, I believe he would fit well with a team that prioritizes offense over defense and values ball movement.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/woodch01.html

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Dwight Howard really wants to be back in the league next year. I’m honestly a bit shocked he wasn’t in the league last year. I still think he’s a top 10 center in the league. Same with DeMarcus Cousins. I hope they both, along with Isaiah Thomas (who has been working out for teams this offseason) get a chance to show they aren’t done yet.

I agree, I read somewhere that they are eyeing Saric before, until the Warriors get him in a one year deal, and perhaps it could have been influence by Chris Paul himself as they used to be team mates in Phoenix and there are videos of him and Paul connecting thru pick and roll and Saric hitting that outside shot.

Dwight Howard, Cousins, or even Christian Wood could also be a good fit for them.

But let's see who will be their target, Howard and Cousins has the experienced. But Christian Wood is young.

I would pick Christian Wood among those vets since he's young and they can still develop that guy. He can shoot and defense but wondering why teams are not interested with him maybe there's something wrong with their scouting and I believe he will be a perfect fit on Warriors knowing Paul is there which can facilitate them properly. Warriors should think about it since they really need additional big man to their team.

It's his defense though that is lacking, that's why teams are not interested in him. But years ago before he was shipped to Dallas, he is one of those athletic center that can shoot the 3.

I guess he was really given the green signal to shoot that time. But with Dallas, they want a true center which Wood didn't provide and that's why he was released and teams are not keen on his talents anymore, I reckon.

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Quote from: gagux123 on July 12, 2023, 02:52:27 AM

I confess... for me it is gratifying to see Cousins, IT and Howard have the opportunity to return to play in the NBA.
Even though they are over 30 years old, I believe they still have potential to play in the NBA again.

Last offseason, we also discussed the future of these guys in the NBA, but no team wanted to offer them even a minimum contract at that time. As far as I know, now nothing has actually changed, and there are only rumors that they may return to the NBA. As I see it, IT has the best chance to return, as he recently had workouts in Vegas for multiple NBA teams, while Howard and Cousins are not likely to be seen in the NBA again.

I see the same, with how the teams are recruiting players, they are more into flexibility.

Both Cousins and Howard can be a liability with the way they are playing the game. It might be hard for them to cope up
with the young and big guys who are playing the game now.

Both past superstars are already aging and the speed is no longer present plus the way the game is being played now
more on outside plays and running attacks, not sure if both cousins and Howard can still find a team that fits the way they play the game.

Yeah, that is entirely true but as I said in my earlier posts about this, a 1-year veteran contract should suffice, I bet they will be happy with that. They just want the opportunity to be back in the game and maybe prove something. If somehow they could showcase their skills again then it's up to the next season if other teams are impressed with whatever they do in this season.
I don't think their agents are also looking for a big contract, just enough to keep them going and its the playing time they want the most.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 12, 2023, 11:00:18 PM

Now with regards to Harden wanted to get traded, I don't know which teams are interested with him TBH, but I saw in the internet that the Clippers wanted him, but the question is who will be trading just to get him, and is it worth it? I'm not hearing other teams interested on him anymore as of now, and even the Rockets who are continuously saying a few months ago that they wanted him now is silent when it comes to him, so they aren't interested on him as well.

I think the Clippers have enough cap now after Westbrook signed only $3.8M for the Clippers. I mean, that's a lot of change from $41M to a veteran contract because he just wants the championship this year and I doubt some team will sign him again at the high price.
They have room, but it's up to Harden if he thinks his value is still expensive. He could do the same as WB did or a bit higher than it but their purpose will just be the same.

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Quote from: Wapfika on July 12, 2023, 11:04:59 AM

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2. Awarding of second challenge to the coach when the first one was successful.

This should be implemented earlier since flop destroy a lot of important game. This issue is known by the refs during review that some of their call is just flop but coaches doesn’t want to waste their challenge on silly acting. Many star player benefits on this method on drawing foul since they have the charisma and star power to the refs for making them easy to believe.

Flop cips is always shown in the highlights on NBA replays. I wonder why the committee allows this kind of dirty trick before it gets a heavy penalty.

Flopping was really a challenge on the referees POV. This was never really a problem before as it has been considered part of the defensive play to sell offensive fouls to the refs. Manu Ginobli have done this several times before but not too often like the players do today. The NBA imposes penalties now because it has been abused by a lot of players already. LeBron was not really a flopper until he had enough of all the no call fouls on him and that is where the flopping became popular as LeBron and James Harden did it more effectively than before. So, this might be the reason why the NBA took a long time to impose such penalties on the flopping team.

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Quote from: gagux123 on July 12, 2023, 02:52:27 AM

I confess... for me it is gratifying to see Cousins, IT and Howard have the opportunity to return to play in the NBA.
Even though they are over 30 years old, I believe they still have potential to play in the NBA again.

Last offseason, we also discussed the future of these guys in the NBA, but no team wanted to offer them even a minimum contract at that time. As far as I know, now nothing has actually changed, and there are only rumors that they may return to the NBA. As I see it, IT has the best chance to return, as he recently had workouts in Vegas for multiple NBA teams, while Howard and Cousins are not likely to be seen in the NBA again.

I see the same, with how the teams are recruiting players, they are more into flexibility.

Both Cousins and Howard can be a liability with the way they are playing the game. It might be hard for them to cope up
with the young and big guys who are playing the game now.

Both past superstars are already aging and the speed is no longer present plus the way the game is being played now
more on outside plays and running attacks, not sure if both cousins and Howard can still find a team that fits the way they play the game.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 12, 2023, 09:39:07 PM

Quote from: MK-74 on July 12, 2023, 09:24:07 PM

James Harden has stated again that he wants to be traded to the Sixers management.
Harden wants to leave the team, Los Angeles Clippers are being considered for a trade, but there is no progress at the moment.

Harden is not a special player anymore. He is more a liability IMO as anyone who takes him has to worry that they will be the 4th team he wants traded from. He's not worth the risk or the money.

TBH, I'm 50/50 at what you said.

Yes he isn't the prime Harden anymore like what he is in Houston where he averages 25-30 PPG, but on the other hand, he leads all the shooting guards in terms of assists with 8.2, and his playmaking abilities helped getting Embiid his first MVP title. Well, I agree that he isn't special, and his value is not worth it anymore, but I guess he can still be a big help with the team... a team with 2 all-star players maybe like when he's on Brooklyn.

Now with regards to Harden wanted to get traded, I don't know which teams are interested with him TBH, but I saw in the internet that the Clippers wanted him, but the question is who will be trading just to get him, and is it worth it? I'm not hearing other teams interested on him anymore as of now, and even the Rockets who are continuously saying a few months ago that they wanted him now is silent when it comes to him, so they aren't interested on him as well.

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Quote from: MK-74 on July 12, 2023, 09:24:07 PM

James Harden has stated again that he wants to be traded to the Sixers management.
Harden wants to leave the team, Los Angeles Clippers are being considered for a trade, but there is no progress at the moment.

Harden is not a special player anymore. He is more a liability IMO as anyone who takes him has to worry that they will be the 4th team he wants traded from. He's not worth the risk or the money.

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James Harden has stated again that he wants to be traded to the Sixers management.
Harden wants to leave the team, Los Angeles Clippers are being considered for a trade, but there is no progress at the moment.

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Ja Morant's best friend Davonte Pack has been arrested.
An 18-year-old was assaulted at Ja Morant's house.
There has been no charge yet against Ja Morant.
Things haven't been going well for Ja Morant lately.

Even though it's not directly him, but rather his friends, it can still reflect poorly on him. He really needs to distance himself from that circle he's currently involved with because his future is at risk. At such a young age, he has the potential to earn much more than he currently does. He just needs to ensure that he sets a good example for others and makes positive choices for himself.

Exactly. He need to find other people to surround him because if that same circle will be with him in the next couple of years, he will not improve as a human being and his status of being an active NBA player will put to risks because his name will always be involved whenever he or his friends did commit something illegal. It will be very unfortunate if his future will be gone just because of his childish act, he need to pull himself together if he still wanted to play in the league for at least a decade.

I mean at a certain point I'm wondering where his parents are at, at this point. Dude obviously has a lot of growing up to do and needs a positive role model to be around 24/7. Not gonna lie its gonna be tough for him since that is all he seems to know. He is risking it all but he wouldn't be the first nor last person to do that. Sad.

The crazy thing is that the kid didn't grow up in the ghetto with ghetto parents or no parents at all that didn't give him a proper education and guidance. From everything I've ever seen written about him, it seemed like he came from a very good family and grew up not poor and in the hood.

He kind of reminds me of the Eminem 8 Mile movie where he rips that one rapper he's battling, calling him out saying "his parent had a real good marriage" and then blasts him on where he went to school, which was a very nice private school, and that his actual name was Clarence lol.. so aka a fake gangster... aka Ja Morant.

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That's to be expected.

They'll give him some programs and exercises that will buff his physical body and to have more build up for his muscles. They say that he's like really KD.

So, preserving him now by the team to make it sure that he'll be in good shape. I want to see how they'll face each other with Chet. LOL just a thought.

And some are saying and actually hoping that he might be like Giannis, who is so thin we he got drafted but after a few years, he was getting some improvement and not just by his skills but his body frame did get some buff which makes him more unstoppable in the court as he can always transition from being a forward to a center if it's badly needed.

A lot of expectation is being placed on him and that's why I can't also blame him if he's going to get exhausted with that. But looking at the situation and whatever is happening to him, he's enjoying it.

Quote from: Kasabus on July 12, 2023, 05:20:24 PM

Hopefully, that will be Wemby's body frame too because judging from his talent and IQ level inside the court, he will hard to stop if he will have a much bigger frame especially with that kid of height. Being KD is good too but we all know what is the difference though.

We can see that with Jokic, he's unstoppable. And if Wemby will get that type of body mass then for sure that he's going to be the same. A huge, tall player with talent, can go with threes, have a rebounding and with good shooting percentage.

It's all going into how he's going to be developed so, there's an interesting future on him and as well as with other draftees.

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Ja Morant's best friend Davonte Pack has been arrested.
An 18-year-old was assaulted at Ja Morant's house.
There has been no charge yet against Ja Morant.
Things haven't been going well for Ja Morant lately.

Even though it's not directly him, but rather his friends, it can still reflect poorly on him. He really needs to distance himself from that circle he's currently involved with because his future is at risk. At such a young age, he has the potential to earn much more than he currently does. He just needs to ensure that he sets a good example for others and makes positive choices for himself.

Exactly. He need to find other people to surround him because if that same circle will be with him in the next couple of years, he will not improve as a human being and his status of being an active NBA player will put to risks because his name will always be involved whenever he or his friends did commit something illegal. It will be very unfortunate if his future will be gone just because of his childish act, he need to pull himself together if he still wanted to play in the league for at least a decade.

I mean at a certain point I'm wondering where his parents are at, at this point. Dude obviously has a lot of growing up to do and needs a positive role model to be around 24/7. Not gonna lie its gonna be tough for him since that is all he seems to know. He is risking it all but he wouldn't be the first nor last person to do that. Sad.

Ja Morant his definitely out of control, we've been asking the same question, his influence should be his parents.

How many times we remember Jordan winning another ring and crying with his Bred 11 lying on the floor with emotions because his dad recently die and he is no longer with him celebrating another NBA championship?

That's the difference with today's successful players like Ja Morant, you can't hear where their parents are to guide them.

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Quote from: Questat on July 11, 2023, 09:48:03 PM

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Ja Morant's best friend Davonte Pack has been arrested.
An 18-year-old was assaulted at Ja Morant's house.
There has been no charge yet against Ja Morant.
Things haven't been going well for Ja Morant lately.

Even though it's not directly him, but rather his friends, it can still reflect poorly on him. He really needs to distance himself from that circle he's currently involved with because his future is at risk. At such a young age, he has the potential to earn much more than he currently does. He just needs to ensure that he sets a good example for others and makes positive choices for himself.

I agree with you on this. He definitely needs to change his friends and environment because it is affecting him so badly.
He is a player whose future I think is good, but if he continues like this he can end his career. I think he should get support for this.

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Dwight Howard really wants to be back in the league next year. I’m honestly a bit shocked he wasn’t in the league last year. I still think he’s a top 10 center in the league. Same with DeMarcus Cousins. I hope they both, along with Isaiah Thomas (who has been working out for teams this offseason) get a chance to show they aren’t done yet.

I agree, I read somewhere that they are eyeing Saric before, until the Warriors get him in a one year deal, and perhaps it could have been influence by Chris Paul himself as they used to be team mates in Phoenix and there are videos of him and Paul connecting thru pick and roll and Saric hitting that outside shot.

Dwight Howard, Cousins, or even Christian Wood could also be a good fit for them.

But let's see who will be their target, Howard and Cousins has the experienced. But Christian Wood is young.

I would pick Christian Wood among those vets since he's young and they can still develop that guy. He can shoot and defense but wondering why teams are not interested with him maybe there's something wrong with their scouting and I believe he will be a perfect fit on Warriors knowing Paul is there which can facilitate them properly. Warriors should think about it since they really need additional big man to their team.

I like your idea. CP3 loves playing with an athletic big guy who can easily catch his lob passes. That's exactly what the Warriors needed last season, as they lacked a significant threat inside. With CP3's exceptional passing ability and a hard-working big guy, I believe that would greatly enhance their strengths.

Yes that would provably happen if they add Wood on their roster but it seems that they are not interested with him since still want to continue to run their small ball line up. I don't think it will still work knowing that many teams already know its weakness so if they could just add some big man like Wood in the line up maybe they may have another option especially when they need to change their phase if they are totally dominated in rebounding category and for sure that guy would really be a big help to them.

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Quote from: Questat on July 11, 2023, 09:48:03 PM

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Ja Morant's best friend Davonte Pack has been arrested.
An 18-year-old was assaulted at Ja Morant's house.
There has been no charge yet against Ja Morant.
Things haven't been going well for Ja Morant lately.

Even though it's not directly him, but rather his friends, it can still reflect poorly on him. He really needs to distance himself from that circle he's currently involved with because his future is at risk. At such a young age, he has the potential to earn much more than he currently does. He just needs to ensure that he sets a good example for others and makes positive choices for himself.

Exactly. He need to find other people to surround him because if that same circle will be with him in the next couple of years, he will not improve as a human being and his status of being an active NBA player will put to risks because his name will always be involved whenever he or his friends did commit something illegal. It will be very unfortunate if his future will be gone just because of his childish act, he need to pull himself together if he still wanted to play in the league for at least a decade.

I mean at a certain point I'm wondering where his parents are at, at this point. Dude obviously has a lot of growing up to do and needs a positive role model to be around 24/7. Not gonna lie its gonna be tough for him since that is all he seems to know. He is risking it all but he wouldn't be the first nor last person to do that. Sad.

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Wemby is gonna take the break in the NBA summer league and will now focus on the upcoming season. This is as per the decision of his team, Spurs.

Spurs decide that Victor Wembanyama’s Summer League is over after two games

I guess this is all part of the grooming plan and he had shown enough for the summer league. The preparation for the upcoming season should be prioritized then.

Not a bad performance for his debut in the league and I think that Spurs will give him some workouts to do for improvement. He's agile, and has passing ability, overall I'd say he's definitely great but having a skinny body in his actual regular season debut will surely not dominate if he goes head-to-head with some plumber guys on the court. Can't wait for this phenomenal kid to make some storm.

That's to be expected.

They'll give him some programs and exercises that will buff his physical body and to have more build up for his muscles. They say that he's like really KD.

So, preserving him now by the team to make it sure that he'll be in good shape. I want to see how they'll face each other with Chet. LOL just a thought.

And some are saying and actually hoping that he might be like Giannis, who is so thin we he got drafted but after a few years, he was getting some improvement and not just by his skills but his body frame did get some buff which makes him more unstoppable in the court as he can always transition from being a forward to a center if it's badly needed.

Hopefully, that will be Wemby's body frame too because judging from his talent and IQ level inside the court, he will hard to stop if he will have a much bigger frame especially with that kid of height. Being KD is good too but we all know what is the difference though.

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Quote from: Questat on July 11, 2023, 09:48:03 PM

Quote from: MK-74 on July 11, 2023, 06:34:15 PM

Ja Morant's best friend Davonte Pack has been arrested.
An 18-year-old was assaulted at Ja Morant's house.
There has been no charge yet against Ja Morant.
Things haven't been going well for Ja Morant lately.

Even though it's not directly him, but rather his friends, it can still reflect poorly on him. He really needs to distance himself from that circle he's currently involved with because his future is at risk. At such a young age, he has the potential to earn much more than he currently does. He just needs to ensure that he sets a good example for others and makes positive choices for himself.

Exactly. He need to find other people to surround him because if that same circle will be with him in the next couple of years, he will not improve as a human being and his status of being an active NBA player will put to risks because his name will always be involved whenever he or his friends did commit something illegal. It will be very unfortunate if his future will be gone just because of his childish act, he need to pull himself together if he still wanted to play in the league for at least a decade.

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2. Awarding of second challenge to the coach when the first one was successful.

This should be implemented earlier since flop destroy a lot of important game. This issue is known by the refs during review that some of their call is just flop but coaches doesn’t want to waste their challenge on silly acting. Many star player benefits on this method on drawing foul since they have the charisma and star power to the refs for making them easy to believe.

Flop cips is always shown in the highlights on NBA replays. I wonder why the committee allows this kind of dirty trick before it gets a heavy penalty.

This rule is not directly related to flopping as it could be due to a wrong call by the referee. If we remember the basic rules, a coach could only challenge for a call made, not for a non-call. Therefore, it would really help the team to still have its coach's challenge as long as they make a successful challenge every time.

I agree, a big help for the coach as he can challenge calls as long as he made the first one successful, meaning to say that
the coach will not be that afraid to challenge if he feels that the ref missed the supposed call.

It gives a good chance for any team if ever that they feel the officiating officials are not doing their job.

Not only with the flops specifically, but more on the contacts that the referees might miss during the game.

That was a no brainer move for them to add. I’m actually surprised it wasn’t that way before. I’m pretty sure it is in the NFL so I guess I assumed the NBA was the same. This explains why you saw coaches not challenging obviously incorrect calls early on in games. That was something I was dumbfounded about so it’s nice to finally understand.

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Quote from: Distinctin on July 12, 2023, 11:30:14 AM

Quote from: Wapfika on July 12, 2023, 11:04:59 AM

Quote from: Yogee on July 12, 2023, 09:36:06 AM

2. Awarding of second challenge to the coach when the first one was successful.

This should be implemented earlier since flop destroy a lot of important game. This issue is known by the refs during review that some of their call is just flop but coaches doesn’t want to waste their challenge on silly acting. Many star player benefits on this method on drawing foul since they have the charisma and star power to the refs for making them easy to believe.

Flop cips is always shown in the highlights on NBA replays. I wonder why the committee allows this kind of dirty trick before it gets a heavy penalty.

This rule is not directly related to flopping as it could be due to a wrong call by the referee. If we remember the basic rules, a coach could only challenge for a call made, not for a non-call. Therefore, it would really help the team to still have its coach's challenge as long as they make a successful challenge every time.

I agree, a big help for the coach as he can challenge calls as long as he made the first one successful, meaning to say that
the coach will not be that afraid to challenge if he feels that the ref missed the supposed call.

It gives a good chance for any team if ever that they feel the officiating officials are not doing their job.

Not only with the flops specifically, but more on the contacts that the referees might miss during the game.

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