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February 18, 2023, 09:16:14 AM
My honest option for Westbrook currently is that he will be a good additional to the LA Clippers, no doubt about that as the team is already good given that PG and Kawhi are there and adding Westbrook will definitely give the roster an enhancement to be a more serious playoff contender. But if ever he won't be in Clippers, he's also good to go in Miami Heat where his presence and contribution is really needed. But for Wizards and Bulls, I doubt it. But just like you guys have said, it still depends on the highest bidder, IMO.

Looking at his performance on LA make me believe that Westbrook is not suitable on team that has a lot of star player. He will just destroy the dynamics of the team especially if the star player is already comfortable to each other. He belongs to OKC and LA with both star player before but still he didn’t achieved championship despite he has lot of star player teammates. I don’t know exactly what team he is needed right now but Clippers is already perfect right now if they can maintain a healthy Kawhi and PG until the finals.
It will be different if they lost against the Suns before the All-Star break. Many will think that the Clippers needs Russ even off the bench if they lost against them, but they won on the road.

One game isn't enough for the Clippers to be judged. They have new recruits, and they need to play as a team more games in order for us to say if they are a perfect team for the playoffs already or not. Nevertheless, I still believe that Westbrook fits in the Clippers even as a bench player since that's was his role in the Lakers. OKC? Nahhh don't expect him to go back there anymore. The Thunder now are a different team compare to what it was a few years ago.

As for the Wizards and Bulls, I want to see him though with the Wizards. A reunion between Beal and Westbrook, but now they have Porzingis and Kuzma. It's like a Big 3 plus 1 in Westbrook. As for the Bulls, I guess that's why they really need him. Lonzo Ball is injured and so as Dragic. Their only PG is Coby White. I've read some articles saying that Westbrook can wait and will just sign in the off-season after his contract expires. I don't know if this is true.
No, let him play with the Heat as this team has a great potential to be a match up in the ECF. Westbrook will bring more energy on the team, him and Butler will definitely be hard to stop when they are aggressive going inside.
Looking at how badly needed these teams are, I'm also thinking that the Heat are the ones that will benefit from him the most.
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February 18, 2023, 08:54:18 AM


It's a little different in that the splash brothers were shot dominant on theor team.  I actually think the Suns ran by cp3 is a better fit for Durant.  Cp3 will put Durant in perfect position to slide right in and be the offensive force they need side by side with Booker.  Paul doesn't care if he gets his shots off.  Can't wait to watch this work gonna be fun.  As a knick fan glad to see him off of the Nets too lol.

Just as every analysis says that the Suns were automatically got the favor to win the championship this year after the KD acquisition. This team could be the perfect team, COULD BE, all because CP3 is a good offensive facilitator. Now, all they need to do is to be healthy for the remainder of the season and most especially in the playoffs.
A healthy Suns is gonna be a hell of an opponent, simply because an opposing team cannot double team KD, Booker, CP3, and Ayton all at the same time. One defender may not be enough to guard either of these 4. So, that alone is going to be their advantage.  However, there could still be a lot of teams that could potentially beat them in a 7 game series, but if the Suns won't win it all this year, it  will going to be very shameful to them, as they seem to be the most stacked team in the NBA today.
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February 18, 2023, 08:32:44 AM
My honest option for Westbrook currently is that he will be a good additional to the LA Clippers, no doubt about that as the team is already good given that PG and Kawhi are there and adding Westbrook will definitely give the roster an enhancement to be a more serious playoff contender. But if ever he won't be in Clippers, he's also good to go in Miami Heat where his presence and contribution is really needed. But for Wizards and Bulls, I doubt it. But just like you guys have said, it still depends on the highest bidder, IMO.

Looking at his performance on LA make me believe that Westbrook is not suitable on team that has a lot of star player. He will just destroy the dynamics of the team especially if the star player is already comfortable to each other. He belongs to OKC and LA with both star player before but still he didn’t achieved championship despite he has lot of star player teammates. I don’t know exactly what team he is needed right now but Clippers is already perfect right now if they can maintain a healthy Kawhi and PG until the finals.
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February 18, 2023, 05:12:41 AM
Both the Clippers and the Heat are a good fit for Westbrook, but after I watched the Clippers defeated the Suns, I guess the Clippers might not get him because their current roster right now is better after the trade deadline. They have Mann already as their point guard though I don't see him as a good playmaker, and that's what Westbrook excels at. The Heat really needs a point guard.
It's also great to see Westbrook playing with the Heat. To be honest, the Heat doesn't have many star players. They have one, which is Jimmy Butler, but he's not even close to Leonard, Irving, or Luka based on stats. Westbrook will definitely help the team, as long as the chemistry clicks.

As for the Wizards and Bulls, I want to see him though with the Wizards. A reunion between Beal and Westbrook, but now they have Porzingis and Kuzma. It's like a Big 3 plus 1 in Westbrook. As for the Bulls, I guess that's why they really need him. Lonzo Ball is injured and so as Dragic. Their only PG is Coby White. I've read some articles saying that Westbrook can wait and will just sign in the off-season after his contract expires. I don't know if this is true.
No, let him play with the Heat as this team has a great potential to be a match up in the ECF. Westbrook will bring more energy on the team, him and Butler will definitely be hard to stop when they are aggressive going inside.
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February 18, 2023, 04:51:53 AM
With the Clippers, I think they are playing good team basketball. If Westbrook is able to play his role well, then I'm pretty sure he will be one of the biggest reasons for this team to improve in their upcoming games. It's very exciting to know where he will end up, but we have no choice now but to wait for the result.
If Clippers buys him out, having Kawhi and Paul George is going to be a good trio for the team then. Aside from them, there are other teams where he has talked with namely,

  • Wizards
  • Heat
  • Bulls

Everyone seems to agree that Clippers might be the best place for his new home. But still, that will depend on his and management's deal.


My honest option for Westbrook currently is that he will be a good additional to the LA Clippers, no doubt about that as the team is already good given that PG and Kawhi are there and adding Westbrook will definitely give the roster an enhancement to be a more serious playoff contender. But if ever he won't be in Clippers, he's also good to go in Miami Heat where his presence and contribution is really needed. But for Wizards and Bulls, I doubt it. But just like you guys have said, it still depends on the highest bidder, IMO.
Both the Clippers and the Heat are a good fit for Westbrook, but after I watched the Clippers defeated the Suns, I guess the Clippers might not get him because their current roster right now is better after the trade deadline. They have Mann already as their point guard though I don't see him as a good playmaker, and that's what Westbrook excels at. The Heat really needs a point guard.

As for the Wizards and Bulls, I want to see him though with the Wizards. A reunion between Beal and Westbrook, but now they have Porzingis and Kuzma. It's like a Big 3 plus 1 in Westbrook. As for the Bulls, I guess that's why they really need him. Lonzo Ball is injured and so as Dragic. Their only PG is Coby White. I've read some articles saying that Westbrook can wait and will just sign in the off-season after his contract expires. I don't know if this is true.
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February 18, 2023, 04:04:59 AM
The scary part about the Phoenix Suns is CP3 has more options for his passing skills. He himself is already a threat with that mid-range perfection skill and it can pull two defenders to open up space for either Booker, Ayton, or KD. So he can do a lob, kick it out, or just let Durant do his magic.
But I will focus on what they will do to make stops, defense must also be as strong as possible to win games.

I have to agree with that "BUT ONLY" if Chris Paul will maintain that kind of consistency in the playoffs.

Regardless of how he performed well in the season, CP3 always choked at the latter part of the playoffs out of nowhere. Blewing a series lead even way back to his Los Angeles Clippers stint up to the last playoffs with his current team, Phoenix Suns.

But who knows with Durant as the new teammate that he requested, things might change in the playoffs.

He probably knows that for sure that when it comes to consistency in intense games, he tend to lose his focus and choke at the later part of the playoffs that is why they have failed 2 straight playoffs contention. This might be his last chance to grab a ring and be one of the stars in his era to have a ring, so if he will still choke, I bet there will be some changes again the next season. Hopefully this time they won't because the new Suns roster is quite scary to think.
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February 18, 2023, 02:37:29 AM
With the Clippers, I think they are playing good team basketball. If Westbrook is able to play his role well, then I'm pretty sure he will be one of the biggest reasons for this team to improve in their upcoming games. It's very exciting to know where he will end up, but we have no choice now but to wait for the result.
If Clippers buys him out, having Kawhi and Paul George is going to be a good trio for the team then. Aside from them, there are other teams where he has talked with namely,

  • Wizards
  • Heat
  • Bulls

Everyone seems to agree that Clippers might be the best place for his new home. But still, that will depend on his and management's deal.


My honest option for Westbrook currently is that he will be a good additional to the LA Clippers, no doubt about that as the team is already good given that PG and Kawhi are there and adding Westbrook will definitely give the roster an enhancement to be a more serious playoff contender. But if ever he won't be in Clippers, he's also good to go in Miami Heat where his presence and contribution is really needed. But for Wizards and Bulls, I doubt it. But just like you guys have said, it still depends on the highest bidder, IMO.
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February 18, 2023, 01:43:42 AM
It's not typical to see the Lakers struggle to make the playoffs as they have been a very dominant team in the past. However, we must accept the current reality and place our trust in LeBron and AD to lead this team to success. After all, they have already proven their greatness by winning a championship together.

This team has some star power with LeBron, who is currently considered the best player in the NBA and a future Hall of Famer. However, if we examine what's happening within the team, we can see that they are already facing challenges, particularly with injuries, especially Anthony Davis, who has a reputation for being injury-prone, whether we like it or not.

Last season was a disappointment for the Lakers, and this year presents an opportunity for them to bounce back. As I previously mentioned, Davis is essential to the team's success, and it's crucial that he stays healthy since he provides the consistency that the Lakers need to perform well.
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February 18, 2023, 01:33:03 AM
They had too many guards, now they have a bit more evened out in each position.
The thing is even if they're even by now they can't seem to get out from that 13th spot and the playoff season isn't that far though I'd say the West has not much of large deficit in terms of wins if you take a look at the standings. Hope they can make it even on the play-in tournament 'cause they might have a chance to make it but winning a ring isn't likely.
Let's not be too optimistic since there doesn't seem to have been significant improvements in the team's performance after trading Westbrook. While you're correct that making it to the play-in tournament is a significant opportunity for them to reach the playoffs, they will still have to work hard to compete against the top teams, and they will also have the disadvantage of not having home court advantage.

It's not typical to see the Lakers struggle to make the playoffs as they have been a very dominant team in the past. However, we must accept the current reality and place our trust in LeBron and AD to lead this team to success. After all, they have already proven their greatness by winning a championship together.
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February 18, 2023, 12:54:47 AM
They had too many guards, now they have a bit more evened out in each position.
The thing is even if they're even by now they can't seem to get out from that 13th spot and the playoff season isn't that far though I'd say the West has not much of large deficit in terms of wins if you take a look at the standings. Hope they can make it even on the play-in tournament 'cause they might have a chance to make it but winning a ring isn't likely.
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February 18, 2023, 12:13:16 AM
The scary part about the Phoenix Suns is CP3 has more options for his passing skills. He himself is already a threat with that mid-range perfection skill and it can pull two defenders to open up space for either Booker, Ayton, or KD. So he can do a lob, kick it out, or just let Durant do his magic.
But I will focus on what they will do to make stops, defense must also be as strong as possible to win games.

I have to agree with that "BUT ONLY" if Chris Paul will maintain that kind of consistency in the playoffs.

Regardless of how he performed well in the season, CP3 always choked at the latter part of the playoffs out of nowhere. Blewing a series lead even way back to his Los Angeles Clippers stint up to the last playoffs with his current team, Phoenix Suns.

But who knows with Durant as the new teammate that he requested, things might change in the playoffs.

Oh well, CP3 almost has it but blew it away against the Bucks.

Remembering back when he still playing with Griffin and they are really hot and solid contender in the West but always failed
to beat either Spurs and Warriors. Another shot with the Rockets but then again he missed one important game that lead them
losing with the Warriors.

Hopefully, before he retires his jersey, he will achieve what players always dream to have when playing in this league, a ring
for the final world champ.

You all forget one important factor why Chris Paul can't win, it's because of referee Scott Foster, Lol. Paul has now lost 14 straight games when playing a a game refereed by Foster.

But seriously, this could be the closest if Durant will be healthy again and like averaging 25++ ppg with the Suns. Definitely Booker scoring will suffer, but they should look at the bright side, the Durant will bring team and CP3 a ring before he retires.
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February 17, 2023, 10:45:34 PM
The scary part about the Phoenix Suns is CP3 has more options for his passing skills. He himself is already a threat with that mid-range perfection skill and it can pull two defenders to open up space for either Booker, Ayton, or KD. So he can do a lob, kick it out, or just let Durant do his magic.
But I will focus on what they will do to make stops, defense must also be as strong as possible to win games.

I have to agree with that "BUT ONLY" if Chris Paul will maintain that kind of consistency in the playoffs.

Regardless of how he performed well in the season, CP3 always choked at the latter part of the playoffs out of nowhere. Blewing a series lead even way back to his Los Angeles Clippers stint up to the last playoffs with his current team, Phoenix Suns.

But who knows with Durant as the new teammate that he requested, things might change in the playoffs.

Oh well, CP3 almost has it but blew it away against the Bucks.

Remembering back when he still playing with Griffin and they are really hot and solid contender in the West but always failed
to beat either Spurs and Warriors. Another shot with the Rockets but then again he missed one important game that lead them
losing with the Warriors.

Hopefully, before he retires his jersey, he will achieve what players always dream to have when playing in this league, a ring
for the final world champ.
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February 17, 2023, 09:05:36 PM
The scary part about the Phoenix Suns is CP3 has more options for his passing skills. He himself is already a threat with that mid-range perfection skill and it can pull two defenders to open up space for either Booker, Ayton, or KD. So he can do a lob, kick it out, or just let Durant do his magic.
But I will focus on what they will do to make stops, defense must also be as strong as possible to win games.

I have to agree with that "BUT ONLY" if Chris Paul will maintain that kind of consistency in the playoffs.

Regardless of how he performed well in the season, CP3 always choked at the latter part of the playoffs out of nowhere. Blewing a series lead even way back to his Los Angeles Clippers stint up to the last playoffs with his current team, Phoenix Suns.

But who knows with Durant as the new teammate that he requested, things might change in the playoffs.
I thought I was the only one who knew the past performances of CP3 during the playoffs. JK Smiley

Well, that's true and just for the context, CP3 is the only player in NBA history to blew up 2-0 lead 5 times. He's been choking his whole playoff career. From injuries to having a bad night etc. etc. We've seen CP3 consistent on the regular season, but the problem is the playoffs.

Now that they have KD already, CP3 can just focus more on the passing if he is having a bad night. He can still shoot perimeters as well because that's almost automatic for him, but now he has many options. He's a leader. He's a floor general and the Point God. He has more options now like KD, Booker, Ayton and some role players out there. As of now, the expectations towards the Suns are very high knowing that they are the top seeded team for 2 straight season, but on the other hand, lets wait for how KD will be fitting himself on the team. We've seen all-star players that played very well in their respective teams, but when they're on the same team, they became awful. I'm not saying that it will happen to them, but don't expect too much that's what I want to say Smiley.
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February 17, 2023, 08:18:00 PM
The scary part about the Phoenix Suns is CP3 has more options for his passing skills. He himself is already a threat with that mid-range perfection skill and it can pull two defenders to open up space for either Booker, Ayton, or KD. So he can do a lob, kick it out, or just let Durant do his magic.
But I will focus on what they will do to make stops, defense must also be as strong as possible to win games.

I have to agree with that "BUT ONLY" if Chris Paul will maintain that kind of consistency in the playoffs.

Regardless of how he performed well in the season, CP3 always choked at the latter part of the playoffs out of nowhere. Blewing a series lead even way back to his Los Angeles Clippers stint up to the last playoffs with his current team, Phoenix Suns.

But who knows with Durant as the new teammate that he requested, things might change in the playoffs.
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February 17, 2023, 06:58:34 PM
The amount of usage rate Westbrook required was the real trouble. Yes it is true that they got less of a "star" with these trades, but they do not require this much usage rate at least, and that means Lebron and AD could have the ball a lot more, and if they ever get defended too harshly, they could pass out to someone who can hit a three.

Plus, they used AD for center too much, and we all know he famously dislikes that, Mo Bamba is not there because he is a great player, he is there to make sure AD plays the way he wants to play, or at least has someone from the bench to replace him when needed. They had too many guards, now they have a bit more evened out in each position.

Agreed on having Bambang in there.  He is a traditional 5 and will allow AD to play out on the wing and not have to cover guys like embid.  Bambang will help Lakers down low.  Surprised with the moves they pulled they definitely got better.  Playoff push better who knows but they will be fighting for the bottom end of the playoff bunch for the last 20 games now.
And it already worked, right?
This is the highest number of points made by Anthony Davis for their last 5 games and the lowest in rebounds in their last 4 games which means he got the help needed below the rim. He won't be too busy doing both ends of the floor but instead, focus on his offense and do his usual post-up or mid-range games.
It's a little different in that the splash brothers were shot dominant on theor team.  I actually think the Suns ran by cp3 is a better fit for Durant.  Cp3 will put Durant in perfect position to slide right in and be the offensive force they need side by side with Booker.  Paul doesn't care if he gets his shots off.  Can't wait to watch this work gonna be fun.  As a knick fan glad to see him off of the Nets too lol.
The scary part about the Phoenix Suns is CP3 has more options for his passing skills. He himself is already a threat with that mid-range perfection skill and it can pull two defenders to open up space for either Booker, Ayton, or KD. So he can do a lob, kick it out, or just let Durant do his magic.
But I will focus on what they will do to make stops, defense must also be as strong as possible to win games.
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February 17, 2023, 06:49:03 PM
From what I've been reading so far, he has four options: Chicago Bulls, Los Angeles Clippers, Miami Heat and Washington Wizards and the commentators on the TV I watched were saying that he could even go to the Chicago Bulls because there he'll find a coaching staff made up of people he knows very well, like Billy Donova and others so it will be much easier for him to adapt, at least I think it would be a good option for him right now

than going to a team and having difficulties adapting and getting involved in some unnecessary noise, in short, as money talks louder, he can choose to go where they pay more money and have conditions to be at the top

Out of these choices, Clippers are the best team he can get. The Clippers sit 4th in the west right now. It is his best chance to compete for a title. He will be a good veteran guide for the young guards of the team. I also read that he will talk with the superstars of this team, Kawhi, and Pual George. I think if Kawhi likes WB to be in the team, WB will be in. I think the last word will be coming from Kawhi.

Lebron thought he would be awesome for the Lakers, but look how that turned out. Westbrook, wherever he ends up, needs to pick a place with unselfish teammates. The Lakers is just a joke that Lebron runs. Westbrook couldn't play with that kind of environment.

Plus, Westbrook skill sets do not fit how the lakers are run. His style collides with how Lebron plays.

They already have 2 players that are amazing at being 2 way players. Both PG and Kawhi are two way players, great at scoring and amazing at defence, they are definitely elite levels at that. However, they are lacking a decent point guard who can setup the game, because right now they end up with players creating their own shots, if Westbrook could become a bit more facilitator instead of a scorer, he could help these guys score a lot more efficiently and that could give Clippers a bit better advantage. Of course, it will all come down to if they can stay healthy because let's face it, Kawhi and PG get injured way too often, which is their real trouble.

I think the Clippers are doing good load managing Kawhi. He is on load management but they are still 4th in the West. That says a lot on how good the clippers will be when they go full force in the playoffs. Adding Westbrook will do them good as you explained. They will not have to create their own shots anymore if WB will be there to facilitate.
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February 17, 2023, 05:38:38 PM
The amount of usage rate Westbrook required was the real trouble. Yes it is true that they got less of a "star" with these trades, but they do not require this much usage rate at least, and that means Lebron and AD could have the ball a lot more, and if they ever get defended too harshly, they could pass out to someone who can hit a three.

Plus, they used AD for center too much, and we all know he famously dislikes that, Mo Bamba is not there because he is a great player, he is there to make sure AD plays the way he wants to play, or at least has someone from the bench to replace him when needed. They had too many guards, now they have a bit more evened out in each position.

Agreed on having Bambang in there.  He is a traditional 5 and will allow AD to play out on the wing and not have to cover guys like embid.  Bambang will help Lakers down low.  Surprised with the moves they pulled they definitely got better.  Playoff push better who knows but they will be fighting for the bottom end of the playoff bunch for the last 20 games now.

The games have chance though, we haven't that much "traditional player" definition per se. There are even games that Lakers chooses to be small, Lebron being the center. And other teams too, like the Bucks going out small as well when Giannis is out or Lopez in not on the floor. But I do agree that AD is more of a PF position and he thrives on that role when the have their championship run. And Mo addition will relieved some pressures on AD's shoulder for now and Mo is also a good player that can contribute on both ends of the floor.
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February 17, 2023, 04:32:51 PM
The amount of usage rate Westbrook required was the real trouble. Yes it is true that they got less of a "star" with these trades, but they do not require this much usage rate at least, and that means Lebron and AD could have the ball a lot more, and if they ever get defended too harshly, they could pass out to someone who can hit a three.

Plus, they used AD for center too much, and we all know he famously dislikes that, Mo Bamba is not there because he is a great player, he is there to make sure AD plays the way he wants to play, or at least has someone from the bench to replace him when needed. They had too many guards, now they have a bit more evened out in each position.

Agreed on having Bambang in there.  He is a traditional 5 and will allow AD to play out on the wing and not have to cover guys like embid.  Bambang will help Lakers down low.  Surprised with the moves they pulled they definitely got better.  Playoff push better who knows but they will be fighting for the bottom end of the playoff bunch for the last 20 games now.
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February 17, 2023, 04:28:09 PM
The amount of usage rate Westbrook required was the real trouble. Yes it is true that they got less of a "star" with these trades, but they do not require this much usage rate at least, and that means Lebron and AD could have the ball a lot more, and if they ever get defended too harshly, they could pass out to someone who can hit a three.

Plus, they used AD for center too much, and we all know he famously dislikes that, Mo Bamba is not there because he is a great player, he is there to make sure AD plays the way he wants to play, or at least has someone from the bench to replace him when needed. They had too many guards, now they have a bit more evened out in each position.
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February 17, 2023, 03:32:53 PM
Looks like Phoenix is taking an L in the final game before the all star break. They could have used Durant tonight but it won’t be long now before we see his debut. Paul George had himself a game tonight that wasn’t totally reflected in the box score. He was making big plays and hitting hard shots all night. Eric Gordon looks like a great addition also.
Phoenix was out rebounded. outcoached, and outplayed IMO. The Suns need to play more aggressively and get themselves on the free throw line. Get some players in foul trouble and work harder to get wins. Playing soft won't get them anywhere except a seat watching the playoffs.

Watching their game earlier against the Clippers makes me think and wonder that this team might choke again in the early rounds of the playoffs if ever they will have a seat. Fortunately, their chances has improved because they already have Kevin Durant in the roster with them who will give a good impact for the team but that is still unknown at this stage because Durant is still injured and will likely play few games before the season ends.

KD is a good addition to them in terms of both offense and defense, if they will duplicate how the Warriors manage to fit him inside the system
the chance of winning for the Suns is really high.
Booker and CP3 will be the key here, remembering how the splash bros adjusted for KD just to work with him and allow him to facilitate. It
will bring a good chance of advancing to the next round and a possibility that they can move back to the finals.
It's just an opinion and base from how KD affects the team that he played with when he's healthy.

It's a little different in that the splash brothers were shot dominant on theor team.  I actually think the Suns ran by cp3 is a better fit for Durant.  Cp3 will put Durant in perfect position to slide right in and be the offensive force they need side by side with Booker.  Paul doesn't care if he gets his shots off.  Can't wait to watch this work gonna be fun.  As a knick fan glad to see him off of the Nets too lol.
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