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Quote from: yahoo62278 on February 17, 2023, 06:48:57 AM

Lebron thought he would be awesome for the Lakers, but look how that turned out. Westbrook, wherever he ends up, needs to pick a place with unselfish teammates. The Lakers is just a joke that Lebron runs. Westbrook couldn't play with that kind of environment.

That's actually a sad thing for the Lakers, a team that has a lot of fans and then we thought that it would be doing amazing with all such trades and Lebron's leadership. But, that's true that it seems that he's become part of the decision making that tends to be not working anymore.

Quote from: btc_angela on February 17, 2023, 07:12:42 AM

Yeah, we will have to see if ever how will he be a perfect fit for the Clippers, but so far Clippers though are doing good already with their current situation. 4th in the West and have a 2 game winning streak.

Might be bad though to add Westbrook to their lineup, but we will see, if the management sees that it's a good opportunity for them to add Westbrook because he can help them then so be it. But base on experience by Lakers, it's not a good experience for them.

Actually, it's confusing to see those news that I am searching. In the past days, the interest is no longer there but then, it's come back for him to be taking.

But then, we'll see where he's really going to take a spot since there are other teams aside from them willing to negotiate.

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Looks like Phoenix is taking an L in the final game before the all star break. They could have used Durant tonight but it won’t be long now before we see his debut. Paul George had himself a game tonight that wasn’t totally reflected in the box score. He was making big plays and hitting hard shots all night. Eric Gordon looks like a great addition also.

Phoenix was out rebounded. outcoached, and outplayed IMO. The Suns need to play more aggressively and get themselves on the free throw line. Get some players in foul trouble and work harder to get wins. Playing soft won't get them anywhere except a seat watching the playoffs.

Watching their game earlier against the Clippers makes me think and wonder that this team might choke again in the early rounds of the playoffs if ever they will have a seat. Fortunately, their chances has improved because they already have Kevin Durant in the roster with them who will give a good impact for the team but that is still unknown at this stage because Durant is still injured and will likely play few games before the season ends.

KD is a good addition to them in terms of both offense and defense, if they will duplicate how the Warriors manage to fit him inside the system
the chance of winning for the Suns is really high.
Booker and CP3 will be the key here, remembering how the splash bros adjusted for KD just to work with him and allow him to facilitate. It
will bring a good chance of advancing to the next round and a possibility that they can move back to the finals.
It's just an opinion and base from how KD affects the team that he played with when he's healthy.

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Looks like Phoenix is taking an L in the final game before the all star break. They could have used Durant tonight but it won’t be long now before we see his debut. Paul George had himself a game tonight that wasn’t totally reflected in the box score. He was making big plays and hitting hard shots all night. Eric Gordon looks like a great addition also.

Phoenix was out rebounded. outcoached, and outplayed IMO. The Suns need to play more aggressively and get themselves on the free throw line. Get some players in foul trouble and work harder to get wins. Playing soft won't get them anywhere except a seat watching the playoffs.

Watching their game earlier against the Clippers makes me think and wonder that this team might choke again in the early rounds of the playoffs if ever they will have a seat. Fortunately, their chances has improved because they already have Kevin Durant in the roster with them who will give a good impact for the team but that is still unknown at this stage because Durant is still injured and will likely play few games before the season ends.

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They had a big win on LeBron's comeback, which is good for a start. Hopefully, they can build momentum from there. You're right, they really need to be more consistent now. A playoff spot is very important as it guarantees being part of the competition, whereas getting into the play-in is quite hard as they'll have to play a few games only to qualify.

LeBron was reported to have played with a foot injury. Hopefully, the rumors are not true because we need a healthy LeBron and of course, AD.

It was a good win, and now the Lakers should win as many upcoming games as possible. By the way, it should be noted that the teams from 9th to 13th place in the Western Conference standings are very close in terms of wins/losses. So the Lakers still have a chance, although it won't be an easy task for them as there will surely be an intense battle for the last place in the play-in tournament by the end of the regular season.

That will be a tough challenge for the Lakers and they surely know what they are facing up ahead on their next games before this season ends, but I think they can still manage to get a slot in the play-in tournament. What they need is to be very consistent because the remaining games are very limited only, they can still afford to lose but they should win most of the games as I think they only have 20+ games left.

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Even though they have same win number, Philly looks way better than Cavs. If this team stay healthy they will be a big trouble in the East. Embiid and Harden have a good chemistry. Melton, Tucker and Harris are good starters and they have Maxey as sixth man. The only problem I see is their narrow rotation. They should have at least two more reliable players in the rotation. Milton and Niang are there but I don't think that's enough. In case we see an injury it might blow Philly's chances.

They didn't make any move in the free market, they only got a decent back up center to Joel in Melton from the Miami Heat. The let go of Thybulle though, which I think is someone that can stretch them in rotation.

So what you guys think of the All Star?

NBA rising star challenge?

Team Deron vs Team Pau
Team Jason vs Team Joakim

I really don’t like the way they’ve changed the team names here. I used to like the freshman bs sophomore battles and it was easy to identify which team was which. I have no idea how these teams are arranged or who is on which team. It makes no sense that they’ve started doing this in an attempt to make the games seem more “street.” This is what happens when outsiders are in charge of things.

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Quote from: boltz on February 17, 2023, 04:48:41 AM

Bulls are becoming a joke again Sad

I don't have enough power left in me to cheer for them Sad

I simply had enough with Bulls and I don't think they will ever achieve at least 20% of what MJ team has achieve during all those golden years. The fans are also sleeping during their games because no one is there anymore for a real support , why ? Because the players don't support their fans either by giving all their best in order to get victories. I also hope , that after this NBA season ends , Bulls will make a massive reconstruction because LaVine simply doesn't want to play for Bulls man...

Oh well, there were hype when DeRozan teams up with Zach Lavine, and they really did a good team early on last year. But then they were eliminated in the first round. And the problem are more evident this season, they are not winning as they supposed to be and we even heard rumors that either superstar wanted out.

For sure, there could be massive reconstruction next season as the team are not that effective with Lavine as the leader. They are good at every position, it's that something is missing with the team's chemistry.

The leadership between Zach and DeRozan is something that's not blending too well. I think they needed to find ways to work these things out, as these two superstars are good from their respective positions.

They can dominate one on one but the thing with the defense both needs to adjust and call for their teammates
to give some stop, especially in the dying quarters of the game. They are just good at the start, but finishing the
win, that's something that the coaching staff needs to work more.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on February 17, 2023, 09:27:52 AM

Personally adding another scorer might not be a good for the Clippers,

it's better for them to add 2way player who can contribute not just in offense but also with good defense.
Something that might not work for the Lakers since LeBron is also a scoring machine but not that much involve with their defense,
we might not see why the management is interested in Russ. Maybe they can find a good system for him wearing the clippers' uniform.

Westbrook's stats have slipped a lot this season, and I wouldn't call him a scorer since he averages only 15.9 points per game. I think the problem with Westbrook is that he sometimes turns into Westbrick, which is probably the main reason why most teams in the league aren't interested in him. Even if he signs with the Clippers, it will still be hard to predict whether he will be useful to them or not.

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Quote from: Jating on February 17, 2023, 11:06:53 AM

Quote from: boltz on February 17, 2023, 04:48:41 AM

Bulls are becoming a joke again Sad

I don't have enough power left in me to cheer for them Sad

I simply had enough with Bulls and I don't think they will ever achieve at least 20% of what MJ team has achieve during all those golden years. The fans are also sleeping during their games because no one is there anymore for a real support , why ? Because the players don't support their fans either by giving all their best in order to get victories. I also hope , that after this NBA season ends , Bulls will make a massive reconstruction because LaVine simply doesn't want to play for Bulls man...

Oh well, there were hype when DeRozan teams up with Zach Lavine, and they really did a good team early on last year. But then they were eliminated in the first round. And the problem are more evident this season, they are not winning as they supposed to be and we even heard rumors that either superstar wanted out.

For sure, there could be massive reconstruction next season as the team are not that effective with Lavine as the leader. They are good at every position, it's that something is missing with the team's chemistry.

@boltz is hilarious because that's how I feel too. You like the team and yet they won't provide something to cheer them. It's exhausting. I've seen Lavine played better but this one is not his best. They got a shot to win it after Giannis was injured, a very big opportunity to hustle the Bucks especially on the painted area.
He is the face of the Bulls for crying out loud, at least show some energy that will boost the crowd in your home game. Chicago Bulls is a goner if their management will not do anything to patch this up.

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Quote from: EFS on February 16, 2023, 09:32:31 AM

Even though they have same win number, Philly looks way better than Cavs. If this team stay healthy they will be a big trouble in the East. Embiid and Harden have a good chemistry. Melton, Tucker and Harris are good starters and they have Maxey as sixth man. The only problem I see is their narrow rotation. They should have at least two more reliable players in the rotation. Milton and Niang are there but I don't think that's enough. In case we see an injury it might blow Philly's chances.

They didn't make any move in the free market, they only got a decent back up center to Joel in Melton from the Miami Heat. The let go of Thybulle though, which I think is someone that can stretch them in rotation.

So what you guys think of the All Star?

NBA rising star challenge?

Team Deron vs Team Pau
Team Jason vs Team Joakim

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Quote from: boltz on February 17, 2023, 04:48:41 AM

Bulls are becoming a joke again Sad

I don't have enough power left in me to cheer for them Sad

I simply had enough with Bulls and I don't think they will ever achieve at least 20% of what MJ team has achieve during all those golden years. The fans are also sleeping during their games because no one is there anymore for a real support , why ? Because the players don't support their fans either by giving all their best in order to get victories. I also hope , that after this NBA season ends , Bulls will make a massive reconstruction because LaVine simply doesn't want to play for Bulls man...

Oh well, there were hype when DeRozan teams up with Zach Lavine, and they really did a good team early on last year. But then they were eliminated in the first round. And the problem are more evident this season, they are not winning as they supposed to be and we even heard rumors that either superstar wanted out.

For sure, there could be massive reconstruction next season as the team are not that effective with Lavine as the leader. They are good at every position, it's that something is missing with the team's chemistry.

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A rumor was said by Shams that no team wants to pursue Russel Westbrook.
(https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10065773-shams-russell-westbrook-buyout-market-slow-moving-no-traction-with-clippers)
(https://hoopshype.com/2023/02/15/shams-charania-when-you-look-around-nba-theres-no-spot-for-russell-westbrook/)

I thought that there are teams interested or will pursue Russell Westbrook. But if the news is true then this might be the start of Westbrook declining and no team might not be interested on him anymore.

It's a big win for the Lakers, Russell a big help for them with 21 points. That's the kind of numbers that he is expected to bring with the Lakers. A couple of good alleyoop between AD and him, and I think AD will be liking their combination as Russell loves to pass.

Yeah, that's what I've thought of too. But it seems that the news all over him is telling the same thing and it's all about rejection. Looking at the recent news of his transfer to the Utah Jazz, I guess we'll see another tandem of him and JC.
He contributed well to the Lakers and that's expected from him and looking forward to see how it will end up with his development on another team.

Westbrook is still good for at least 2 years, but I think what fit him is the role he got in OKC, I mean the alpha of the team, maybe in tandem with someone but he needs to be the dominant player in my opinion.

So not sure if he will be good in Jazz with JC, Jazz seems to be more of a team basketball, sharing the load of both defense and scoring and maybe having Westbrook might chance the balance.

I agree, 2 years will still suffice for him to play impressively but not the alpha of any team in the league anymore. I already accepted the fact that we can't see the old Westbrook already, I mean, it's quite evident, isn't it? He's not that kind of Broody anymore when he was in OKC. I believe he started fading and changing when was traded to Wizards.

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They already have 2 players that are amazing at being 2 way players. Both PG and Kawhi are two way players, great at scoring and amazing at defence, they are definitely elite levels at that. However, they are lacking a decent point guard who can setup the game, because right now they end up with players creating their own shots, if Westbrook could become a bit more facilitator instead of a scorer, he could help these guys score a lot more efficiently and that could give Clippers a bit better advantage. Of course, it will all come down to if they can stay healthy because let's face it, Kawhi and PG get injured way too often, which is their real trouble.

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With the Clippers, I think they are playing good team basketball. If Westbrook is able to play his role well, then I'm pretty sure he will be one of the biggest reasons for this team to improve in their upcoming games. It's very exciting to know where he will end up, but we have no choice now but to wait for the result.

If Clippers buys him out, having Kawhi and Paul George is going to be a good trio for the team then. Aside from them, there are other teams where he has talked with namely,

Wizards
Heat
Bulls

Everyone seems to agree that Clippers might be the best place for his new home. But still, that will depend on his and management's deal.

Yeah, we will have to see if ever how will he be a perfect fit for the Clippers, but so far Clippers though are doing good already with their current situation. 4th in the West and have a 2 game winning streak.

Might be bad though to add Westbrook to their lineup, but we will see, if the management sees that it's a good opportunity for them to add Westbrook because he can help them then so be it. But base on experience by Lakers, it's not a good experience for them.

Personally adding another scorer might not be a good for the Clippers,

it's better for them to add 2way player who can contribute not just in offense but also with good defense.
Something that might not work for the Lakers since LeBron is also a scoring machine but not that much involve with their defense,
we might not see why the management is interested in Russ. Maybe they can find a good system for him wearing the clippers' uniform.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on February 17, 2023, 03:17:31 AM

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Looks like Phoenix is taking an L in the final game before the all star break. They could have used Durant tonight but it won’t be long now before we see his debut. Paul George had himself a game tonight that wasn’t totally reflected in the box score. He was making big plays and hitting hard shots all night. Eric Gordon looks like a great addition also.

Phoenix was out rebounded. outcoached, and outplayed IMO. The Suns need to play more aggressively and get themselves on the free throw line. Get some players in foul trouble and work harder to get wins. Playing soft won't get them anywhere except a seat watching the playoffs.

The Phoenix Suns are actually lucky that Kawhi had a bad 1st quarter to 3rd quarter, all of his shots are either hitting the heel or short. Then, he is forcing all the shots just to get his rhythm. In the end, it was Kawhi (who found his offense at the paint) and PG13 who made big plays that made the Clippers' lead go to distance.
Booker is not yet on his best performance, they may be traces of the old offensive monster but after resting for two months this will be a challenge for him. In their last game against the Sacramento Kings he didn't attempt a three, now versus the Clippers, he tried 6 and only 1 made it thru. The struggle is still lingering although he is not afraid to attack the rim which is a good sign.

Quote from: jakelyson on February 17, 2023, 03:50:49 AM

I thought that I saw some news that Westbrook has begun talks with the Clippers after being given permission by Utah Jazz. Personally, I think the Clippers are the best landing spot for WB right now. He is already established in the city after playing there with the Lakers. The Clippers have lots of shooters that will benefit from Westbrook, and he already established chemistry with Paul George. It will be good to see him play with Kawhi and Paul George.

Yeah, I saw that too. Let's wait for the formal update about that recent deal. Clippers is also what I read and I think it will not be wrong as WB and PG13 had a good relationship during their Thunder's run.
There are actually good choices for players who were bought out. Will Barton, Reggie Jackson (reported to sign the Nuggets), Terrence Ross (already played for the Suns today), Kevin Love, John Wall, and Russell Westbrook.
The Bulls may want to try mixing things up and take some players here if they are still aiming for the playoffs.

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With the Clippers, I think they are playing good team basketball. If Westbrook is able to play his role well, then I'm pretty sure he will be one of the biggest reasons for this team to improve in their upcoming games. It's very exciting to know where he will end up, but we have no choice now but to wait for the result.

If Clippers buys him out, having Kawhi and Paul George is going to be a good trio for the team then. Aside from them, there are other teams where he has talked with namely,

Wizards
Heat
Bulls

Everyone seems to agree that Clippers might be the best place for his new home. But still, that will depend on his and management's deal.

Yeah, we will have to see if ever how will he be a perfect fit for the Clippers, but so far Clippers though are doing good already with their current situation. 4th in the West and have a 2 game winning streak.

Might be bad though to add Westbrook to their lineup, but we will see, if the management sees that it's a good opportunity for them to add Westbrook because he can help them then so be it. But base on experience by Lakers, it's not a good experience for them.

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Quote from: livingfree on February 17, 2023, 06:10:00 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on February 17, 2023, 05:55:51 AM

With the Clippers, I think they are playing good team basketball. If Westbrook is able to play his role well, then I'm pretty sure he will be one of the biggest reasons for this team to improve in their upcoming games. It's very exciting to know where he will end up, but we have no choice now but to wait for the result.

If Clippers buys him out, having Kawhi and Paul George is going to be a good trio for the team then. Aside from them, there are other teams where he has talked with namely,

Wizards
Heat
Bulls

Everyone seems to agree that Clippers might be the best place for his new home. But still, that will depend on his and management's deal.

Lebron thought he would be awesome for the Lakers, but look how that turned out. Westbrook, wherever he ends up, needs to pick a place with unselfish teammates. The Lakers is just a joke that Lebron runs. Westbrook couldn't play with that kind of environment.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on February 17, 2023, 05:55:51 AM

With the Clippers, I think they are playing good team basketball. If Westbrook is able to play his role well, then I'm pretty sure he will be one of the biggest reasons for this team to improve in their upcoming games. It's very exciting to know where he will end up, but we have no choice now but to wait for the result.

If Clippers buys him out, having Kawhi and Paul George is going to be a good trio for the team then. Aside from them, there are other teams where he has talked with namely,

Wizards
Heat
Bulls

Everyone seems to agree that Clippers might be the best place for his new home. But still, that will depend on his and management's deal.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 17, 2023, 03:57:11 AM

Westbrook is not a totally bad player now. While his performance declined with the Lakers, he still had impressive stats when he played with the Rockets and Wizards. I wouldn't be surprised if he landed with the Clippers, as right now, the team needs someone aggressive enough to spread the floor, and Westbrook can certainly deliver that.

It's just a matter of chemistry that's important for the team, since Westbrook already has the talent. His shooting has improved, and his athleticism is still there.

Though his skills are good, they don't seem to find a way to win more games with him on the court, I wonder what's always happened out there. It's just this dude is a stroke of whole lousy luck with any team he is in. The guy is doing his all but it's just not enough to take his team to the finals and the last time he did that was when he was in OKC with KD and Harden. Whatever team takes him, I'm sure he will go to work harder than before to make that team improve and I'm sure he loves to be in a team where he can be useful to them.

Westbrook used to be a good player in OKC. He was able to play with Durant and Harden and still contribute with consistency. Let us not forget that he was once an MVP, averaging a triple-double, and he still has that game now. Unfortunately, his role might not fit with the Lakers as we know LeBron is the king of this team and would always dictate what to do.

With the Clippers, I think they are playing good team basketball. If Westbrook is able to play his role well, then I'm pretty sure he will be one of the biggest reasons for this team to improve in their upcoming games. It's very exciting to know where he will end up, but we have no choice now but to wait for the result.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 17, 2023, 03:57:11 AM

Quote from: jakelyson on February 17, 2023, 03:50:49 AM

Quote from: blockman on February 15, 2023, 06:25:58 PM

A rumor was said by Shams that no team wants to pursue Russel Westbrook.
(https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10065773-shams-russell-westbrook-buyout-market-slow-moving-no-traction-with-clippers)
(https://hoopshype.com/2023/02/15/shams-charania-when-you-look-around-nba-theres-no-spot-for-russell-westbrook/)

I thought that I saw some news that Westbrook has begun talks with the Clippers after being given permission by Utah Jazz. Personally, I think the Clippers are the best landing spot for WB right now. He is already established in the city after playing there with the Lakers. The Clippers have lots of shooters that will benefit from Westbrook, and he already established chemistry with Paul George. It will be good to see him play with Kawhi and Paul George.

Westbrook is not a totally bad player now. While his performance declined with the Lakers, he still had impressive stats when he played with the Rockets and Wizards. I wouldn't be surprised if he landed with the Clippers, as right now, the team needs someone aggressive enough to spread the floor, and Westbrook can certainly deliver that.

It's just a matter of chemistry that's important for the team, since Westbrook already has the talent. His shooting has improved, and his athleticism is still there.

From what I've been reading so far, he has four options: Chicago Bulls, Los Angeles Clippers, Miami Heat and Washington Wizards and the commentators on the TV I watched were saying that he could even go to the Chicago Bulls because there he'll find a coaching staff made up of people he knows very well, like Billy Donova and others so it will be much easier for him to adapt, at least I think it would be a good option for him right now

than going to a team and having difficulties adapting and getting involved in some unnecessary noise, in short, as money talks louder, he can choose to go where they pay more money and have conditions to be at the top

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 17, 2023, 03:57:11 AM

Westbrook is not a totally bad player now. While his performance declined with the Lakers, he still had impressive stats when he played with the Rockets and Wizards. I wouldn't be surprised if he landed with the Clippers, as right now, the team needs someone aggressive enough to spread the floor, and Westbrook can certainly deliver that.

It's just a matter of chemistry that's important for the team, since Westbrook already has the talent. His shooting has improved, and his athleticism is still there.

Though his skills are good, they don't seem to find a way to win more games with him on the court, I wonder what's always happened out there. It's just this dude is a stroke of whole lousy luck with any team he is in. The guy is doing his all but it's just not enough to take his team to the finals and the last time he did that was when he was in OKC with KD and Harden. Whatever team takes him, I'm sure he will go to work harder than before to make that team improve and I'm sure he loves to be in a team where he can be useful to them.

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