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February 13, 2023, 04:10:50 PM
Considering Melo hasn't played a single game this year, it's safe to say even he has accepted the fact that he is forced to retire. Don't get me wrong, he has been an amazing player all his career, and he is top 10 in scoring all time list, so this dude is just the perfect scorer of a by gone era, back in the day when everyone did ISO play to score, this dude was one of the best to do it, he was really awesome.

However, with the motion offense becoming more common, three pointers becoming more common and players defending a lot more on perimeter and need a lateral quickness, he is just a net negative these days at his age and that's normal, Wade retired a lot earlier than him when he realized that. So, it's normal for him at that age to retire. It's Lebron that is the unusual one, nobody should be playing that well at that age, dude is superhuman.
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February 13, 2023, 03:56:43 PM
Celtics won the game despite missing 2 of their starters. This team played great defense and the main weapon in their game was their 3-point shooting. I think Memphis needs to improve their rebounding department, and also they love to play one-on-one which makes them very predictable.
The good ball movement is gone, we know that Morant can generate points, but eventually, he'll be tired and will be less accurate.
Who is this Sam Hauser from the Celtics? Cheesy The name isn't that popular, but he scored more than 10 points in his last 4 games.
What's good with the Celtics is their depth. In the playoffs, this is what you need. A good starters and a bunch of role players that can step up. The depth of the Celtics is just way too good because they have players that can step up in absence of their core players. They don't have neither Brown or Smart, but they have players like White, this Hauser player and their newly acquired Muscala who scored double digits. Add as well their three-point shooting which the shot 21/51 for 41.2% from it. How can the Grizzlies allow them to shot 51 tries and make 21 of them?

Many are looking at the Suns right now ever since the KD trade, but let's not forget about the Celtics. I still believe that with their roster, they can dominate the East in the playoffs and has a high chance to go to NBA Finals again.
I agree, Ja Morant has reasons why he is looking at Boston Celtics, right now they are on top of the East, just slightly behind the Bucks who are in a 10 game winning streak.

But I think Celtics is more complete and I would say that their stint in the Finals last year was a blessing for them. Now they are more mature and even if they have a issue in the beginning (coach), they are not that affected and it seems everyone has forgotten that already. And now we have seen players in their bench like Sam Hauser who is contributing, their bench is deep and I think only Milwaukee can match it in the league.

Boston Celtics are at the top of the table right now in the Eastern Conference. And I also do not think that people are actually not interested enough in the Celtics. They are more interested in who is getting traded or not. Sam Hauser is absolutely not very popular, but he is certainly scoring like a popular player for sure.

Celtics is a team that is not dependent on certain players. They are a team that can rely on any player. Almost all of the players in the team have the capability to play well when needed. And that is a certain type of depth that every team aspires to have, Now that is what they are showing. Even without too very important players in the team, they are performing really well and also winning games.

Not just in Eastern Conference alone, in fact, they are leading the whole league with Denver Nuggets behind them as they got 41 wins while Nuggets got less than 40 wins. Although, I will admit that I somehow expected that this will happen this season after what the Boston Celtics showed to us in the last season where they started quiet and suddenly rose through the ladder when the regular season was approaching its end. And then, they swept the Brooklyn Nets to eliminate them in the 1st round of playoffs.

Now, this is their time and they might take the championship with them if they can retain a healthy roster until the end but aside from that, they have to go through another couple of intense games in the playoffs again.
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February 13, 2023, 03:52:23 PM
Well Carmelo is still hoping that one team will get him for this season, there were even rumors that some Chinese team are interested on him. We have seen Dwight move to that country to pursue his love of the game.

But I guess Carmelo has that pride in himself, and maybe believed that a team will acquire him for help. However, we all know that every team has settled down already and for me there are no teams right now that will be a perfect fit for him. Same here, no hate for him, but I guess it's time to really retire and he is no longer in his prime unlike Lebron.

He expressed that he will not play overseas and will wait for the chance to play again in NBA. But after this season, if no one gets his service, I think that will change. Dwight Howard is quite successful in Taiwan and paid handsomely. If he still wants to play basketball, overseas is a good idea. Even at his age, he will still be very competitive in Taiwan or Korea.

I think ex-NBA players become quite successful overseas, like the recent one, Dwight is enjoying his stint in there, and statistics shows that he is amongst in the top 10, in scoring, rebounding, and assists although his team is not doing good.

So Carmelo will have a lot of tinkering to do right now, whether heed the call of Dwight because if I remember it correctly, Dwight try to recruit him before the opening of the NBA season but we never heard anything about Carmelo as he still expressed his priority as the NBA.
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February 13, 2023, 03:47:03 PM
It's already time for Melo to leave this team and it's already stopped. I don't have a problem with Melo either, he was a very high level player in his old days, now he can't contribute even if he wanted to, I think he should leave the team. A little change will be useful for the Lakers, Lebron James's time is running out, he can no longer find the same rhythm in every game, even if he finds it, he will not find it in the future.
If he still got the contract with the Lakers, there's no way for him to leave and violate the contract. The team has all the means to whether use him or not with every game that they have. It's just sad that when a player like him that has been one of the superstars before, doesn't get a playing time anymore and when the contract expires then possible that there will be no renewal for him anymore. He can be part of the coaching staff and just like the other veteran NBA players got, still they're able to work with their passion and sport that they love.

Melo is no longer a player who can take too much time as a player or contribute too much to the team. But if there is such an experienced player in a team, it will help you psychologically.
We can say that he does not perform much differently than a player who has played in the NBA for 1-2 years now. However, I am very curious about which team he will play in what role, he used to be one of my favorite players Smiley
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February 13, 2023, 03:39:24 PM
Well Carmelo is still hoping that one team will get him for this season, there were even rumors that some Chinese team are interested on him. We have seen Dwight move to that country to pursue his love of the game.

But I guess Carmelo has that pride in himself, and maybe believed that a team will acquire him for help. However, we all know that every team has settled down already and for me there are no teams right now that will be a perfect fit for him. Same here, no hate for him, but I guess it's time to really retire and he is no longer in his prime unlike Lebron.

He expressed that he will not play overseas and will wait for the chance to play again in NBA. But after this season, if no one gets his service, I think that will change. Dwight Howard is quite successful in Taiwan and paid handsomely. If he still wants to play basketball, overseas is a good idea. Even at his age, he will still be very competitive in Taiwan or Korea.

I go for Cousin too, he can still play game and can give some minutes for Ayton while resting, Cousin can provide both offense and defense
No hate for Melo but if in case that Suns will sign a veteran.

But with your first statement, who knows friendship can bring him in, back up shooter who can give some time for either KD or Booker.

We will know what will happen once they already decide who they will add to their roster.

I do not think the Suns still need another scorer on their roster. They will benefit more though from a big man or a defender. Defense is a liability in all their stars. A good defender will complement the firepower that they have right now. Cousin is good but I would like to see someone that is a solid defender.
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February 13, 2023, 03:05:31 PM
Yeah, just realized that there will be another better team that will take him out. And that with that, he'll be able to move along if ever the rumors are true if he's going to be back in Clippers.
Hopefully clippers will be able to to have him, and I also read some article that CP3 wants Melo on the team. How realiable is that?
I've also read that thing about CP3 telling that Suns should also acquire Melo. It's written in some articles and sports publishing websites.
(https://www.basketballinsiders.com/news/chris-paul-wants-phoenix-to-offer-a-contract-to-carmelo-anthony/)

I think Melo's career is over, he averages 13 PPG with the Lakers but he does not give a big impact on the team to win. Maybe if the Suns will acquire him, that will give him a bigger chance to win a championship than his contribution to the team. I have no hate for Melo, but his time being a contributor to the team is already over.

If there's someone I think they should sign, it should be DeMarcus Cousins, he'll surely be a good backup Center for Ayton.
Well Carmelo is still hoping that one team will get him for this season, there were even rumors that some Chinese team are interested on him. We have seen Dwight move to that country to pursue his love of the game.

But I guess Carmelo has that pride in himself, and maybe believed that a team will acquire him for help. However, we all know that every team has settled down already and for me there are no teams right now that will be a perfect fit for him. Same here, no hate for him, but I guess it's time to really retire and he is no longer in his prime unlike Lebron.
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February 13, 2023, 01:14:31 PM
I think Melo's career is over, he averages 13 PPG with the Lakers but he does not give a big impact on the team to win. Maybe if the Suns will acquire him, that will give him a bigger chance to win a championship than his contribution to the team. I have no hate for Melo, but his time being a contributor to the team is already over.

If there's someone I think they should sign, it should be DeMarcus Cousins, he'll surely be a good backup Center for Ayton.

It's already time for Melo to leave this team and it's already stopped. I don't have a problem with Melo either, he was a very high level player in his old days, now he can't contribute even if he wanted to, I think he should leave the team. A little change will be useful for the Lakers, Lebron James's time is running out, he can no longer find the same rhythm in every game, even if he finds it, he will not find it in the future.

Well the Lakers clearly has a lot of plans on their team structure, but it doesn't really include Melo. A lot of times he's contributed to the team after LBJ joined the team but the attention and focus clearly is on the new big men of Lakers. And yes, I think Melo's career as a player is slowly coming to an end as he's not as explosive nor as powerful as Lebron. A lot of teams will surely try and acquire him for his experience yes, but they'll probably have a second thought about it as his stats currently do not reflect his experience in the court.
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February 13, 2023, 01:05:13 PM
It's already time for Melo to leave this team and it's already stopped. I don't have a problem with Melo either, he was a very high level player in his old days, now he can't contribute even if he wanted to, I think he should leave the team. A little change will be useful for the Lakers, Lebron James's time is running out, he can no longer find the same rhythm in every game, even if he finds it, he will not find it in the future.
If he still got the contract with the Lakers, there's no way for him to leave and violate the contract. The team has all the means to whether use him or not with every game that they have. It's just sad that when a player like him that has been one of the superstars before, doesn't get a playing time anymore and when the contract expires then possible that there will be no renewal for him anymore. He can be part of the coaching staff and just like the other veteran NBA players got, still they're able to work with their passion and sport that they love.

If given that chance, he can continue working with the team, if it's already done with his career maybe sitting as a coach or assistant coach
will fit for him, he got the talent that he can share with the newcomers.

Like what you mentioned, there are veteran stars who became a successful coach after playing and if Melo will have that chance/opportunity
then it's a good to grab.
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February 13, 2023, 12:18:29 PM
It's already time for Melo to leave this team and it's already stopped. I don't have a problem with Melo either, he was a very high level player in his old days, now he can't contribute even if he wanted to, I think he should leave the team. A little change will be useful for the Lakers, Lebron James's time is running out, he can no longer find the same rhythm in every game, even if he finds it, he will not find it in the future.
If he still got the contract with the Lakers, there's no way for him to leave and violate the contract. The team has all the means to whether use him or not with every game that they have. It's just sad that when a player like him that has been one of the superstars before, doesn't get a playing time anymore and when the contract expires then possible that there will be no renewal for him anymore. He can be part of the coaching staff and just like the other veteran NBA players got, still they're able to work with their passion and sport that they love.
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February 13, 2023, 11:54:04 AM
Yeah, just realized that there will be another better team that will take him out. And that with that, he'll be able to move along if ever the rumors are true if he's going to be back in Clippers.
Hopefully clippers will be able to to have him, and I also read some article that CP3 wants Melo on the team. How realiable is that?
I've also read that thing about CP3 telling that Suns should also acquire Melo. It's written in some articles and sports publishing websites.
(https://www.basketballinsiders.com/news/chris-paul-wants-phoenix-to-offer-a-contract-to-carmelo-anthony/)

I think Melo's career is over, he averages 13 PPG with the Lakers but he does not give a big impact on the team to win. Maybe if the Suns will acquire him, that will give him a bigger chance to win a championship than his contribution to the team. I have no hate for Melo, but his time being a contributor to the team is already over.

If there's someone I think they should sign, it should be DeMarcus Cousins, he'll surely be a good backup Center for Ayton.

It's already time for Melo to leave this team and it's already stopped. I don't have a problem with Melo either, he was a very high level player in his old days, now he can't contribute even if he wanted to, I think he should leave the team. A little change will be useful for the Lakers, Lebron James's time is running out, he can no longer find the same rhythm in every game, even if he finds it, he will not find it in the future.
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February 13, 2023, 11:39:10 AM
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Celtics is a team that is not dependent on certain players. They are a team that can rely on any player. Almost all of the players in the team have the capability to play well when needed. And that is a certain type of depth that every team aspires to have, Now that is what they are showing. Even without too very important players in the team, they are performing really well and also winning games.
Their roster is deeper than most teams that's for sure. It's keeping them at the top of the table during regular season and that also helped them in the previous years. The thing is that I wouldn't say they can rely on any player on games that matters the most. They lost the finals last season because their top player has been guarded pretty well.

The biggest change that they have brought is now they can still perform even if the best players that they have in the team are heavily guarded. We just saw them win a match without two of the most important players that they have. That speaks volumes for itself. And that is the reason why they are performing so well.


Who is this Sam Hauser from the Celtics? Cheesy The name isn't that popular, but he scored more than 10 points in his last 4 games.
I thought he's here for a long time. Actually he wasn't drafted at all and joined NBA only in 2021 when he was already 24 years old. We can say that's very ambitious for him to not give up and reach NBA level. He got three-year, $6 million contract from Celtics.
He has potential, when they give him time he showed that. For example four months ago he scored 24 points and recorded a career high.
When Brown was missing and Smart was still injured, players like Hauser show up. We saw that last night. Tatum was awful but Celtics still got the win with the help of Hauser, White, Horford and even Muscala.

He is probably in the Boston Celtics for 2 years now if I am not wrong. But I do not think that he has been as consistent like he is right now ever before. And that is why I believe a lot of people actually do not know who he is. And I absolutely agree that he has potential. He is a big reason why Celtics even won the last game. Hauser is having a decent average right now. And I think if he is given enough time and opportunities, he is going to become a very valuable player.
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February 13, 2023, 11:37:55 AM
I've also read that thing about CP3 telling that Suns should also acquire Melo. It's written in some articles and sports publishing websites.
(https://www.basketballinsiders.com/news/chris-paul-wants-phoenix-to-offer-a-contract-to-carmelo-anthony/)
I think Melo's career is over, he averages 13 PPG with the Lakers but he does not give a big impact on the team to win. Maybe if the Suns will acquire him, that will give him a bigger chance to win a championship than his contribution to the team. I have no hate for Melo, but his time being a contributor to the team is already over.

If there's someone I think they should sign, it should be DeMarcus Cousins, he'll surely be a good backup Center for Ayton.
Honestly, he's also one of the top 10 scorers of all time. If he just got a decent continuation of his career, he'd surely be up on the ranking. Remember the time when he's most likely begging for most teams to acquire him but almost none of them have obliged and replied to his call.  But then at the last minute, there goes the Blazers that gave him one year contract.

Yeah, just realized that there will be another better team that will take him out. And that with that, he'll be able to move along if ever the rumors are true if he's going to be back in Clippers.
I don't know about the Clippers if he is what they needed, but the Warriors are the ones I saw interested in him. But it's still a rumor so we cannot expect too much.
We only need to wait for an announcement about him.
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February 13, 2023, 09:57:00 AM
Celtics won the game despite missing 2 of their starters. This team played great defense and the main weapon in their game was their 3-point shooting. I think Memphis needs to improve their rebounding department, and also they love to play one-on-one which makes them very predictable.

The good ball movement is gone, we know that Morant can generate points, but eventually, he'll be tired and will be less accurate.
Who is this Sam Hauser from the Celtics? Cheesy The name isn't that popular, but he scored more than 10 points in his last 4 games.

What's good with the Celtics is their depth. In the playoffs, this is what you need. A good starters and a bunch of role players that can step up. The depth of the Celtics is just way too good because they have players that can step up in absence of their core players. They don't have neither Brown or Smart, but they have players like White, this Hauser player and their newly acquired Muscala who scored double digits. Add as well their three-point shooting which the shot 21/51 for 41.2% from it. How can the Grizzlies allow them to shot 51 tries and make 21 of them?

Many are looking at the Suns right now ever since the KD trade, but let's not forget about the Celtics. I still believe that with their roster, they can dominate the East in the playoffs and has a high chance to go to NBA Finals again.

I agree, Ja Morant has reasons why he is looking at Boston Celtics, right now they are on top of the East, just slightly behind the Bucks who are in a 10 game winning streak.

But I think Celtics is more complete and I would say that their stint in the Finals last year was a blessing for them. Now they are more mature and even if they have a issue in the beginning (coach), they are not that affected and it seems everyone has forgotten that already. And now we have seen players in their bench like Sam Hauser who is contributing, their bench is deep and I think only Milwaukee can match it in the league.
In regards to the Boston Celtics, you make some very valid concerns. Evidently, they have a roster stocked with talented players who can contribute when called upon. They have the experience and self-belief to play at the highest level after reaching the Finals last year. Sam Hauser's emergence and the fact that different players can step up on any given night speak to the team's depth and emphasis on cooperation.

Like you, I think the Celtics are a well-rounded squad that deserves its position atop the Eastern Conference and as title contenders. They have an edge over many other teams because of their depth and flexibility. The team has proven its perseverance and adaptability in the face of adversity, such as the early departure of its head coach. It's evidence of how dedicated everyone on the team is to success. It's safe to say that the Celtics are a team to keep an eye on and a contender in the NBA.
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February 13, 2023, 09:28:18 AM
Who is this Sam Hauser from the Celtics? Cheesy The name isn't that popular, but he scored more than 10 points in his last 4 games.

I thought he's here for a long time. Actually he wasn't drafted at all and joined NBA only in 2021 when he was already 24 years old. We can say that's very ambitious for him to not give up and reach NBA level. He got three-year, $6 million contract from Celtics.
He has potential, when they give him time he showed that. For example four months ago he scored 24 points and recorded a career high.
When Brown was missing and Smart was still injured, players like Hauser show up. We saw that last night. Tatum was awful but Celtics still got the win with the help of Hauser, White, Horford and even Muscala.
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February 13, 2023, 09:12:29 AM
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Celtics is a team that is not dependent on certain players. They are a team that can rely on any player. Almost all of the players in the team have the capability to play well when needed. And that is a certain type of depth that every team aspires to have, Now that is what they are showing. Even without too very important players in the team, they are performing really well and also winning games.
Their roster is deeper than most teams that's for sure. It's keeping them at the top of the table during regular season and that also helped them in the previous years. The thing is that I wouldn't say they can rely on any player on games that matters the most. They lost the finals last season because their top player has been guarded pretty well.
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February 13, 2023, 09:01:46 AM
Yeah, just realized that there will be another better team that will take him out. And that with that, he'll be able to move along if ever the rumors are true if he's going to be back in Clippers.
I don't know about the Clippers if he is what they needed, but the Warriors are the ones I saw interested in him. But it's still a rumor so we cannot expect too much.
Hopefully clippers will be able to to have him, and I also read some article that CP3 wants Melo on the team. How realiable is that?
That's too wild of a rumor when it's Melo, I haven't seen any activity from other teams about him being absorbed and it's been a long time.
Is he really the one that the Phoenix Suns needed by now? The missing piece is either a forward that could do D, or a tall guard that would cover Booker and CP3 if they are up against faster and taller offensive guards like SGA, Ja Morant, Fox, and more. Mikal Bridges was the one who does that before because of his speed and length but now they will be using KD on both offense and defense which I think will be an exhausting feat. No disrespect to Melo but I don't think he could fill that shoe.
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February 13, 2023, 08:39:06 AM
I think Melo's career is over, he averages 13 PPG with the Lakers but he does not give a big impact on the team to win. Maybe if the Suns will acquire him, that will give him a bigger chance to win a championship than his contribution to the team. I have no hate for Melo, but his time being a contributor to the team is already over.

If there's someone I think they should sign, it should be DeMarcus Cousins, he'll surely be a good backup Center for Ayton.

Who knows, friendship can win over game contribution. Cheesy But I do agree with what you say, if they will ever try to sign Melo then I think he will just be a roster filler or a backup shooter for garbage times. Maybe he could also offer some advice to young players in their team.

About Cousins, yes, I'd take him over Melo. He had been showing all his workouts in his social media accounts and I think he suited to play again.
But no team had been interested with him yet and the All-Star is near. If Suns really want to strengthen their core, they may need to add some defensive players because they are now filled with offensive ones.

I go for Cousin too, he can still play game and can give some minutes for Ayton while resting, Cousin can provide both offense and defense
No hate for Melo but if in case that Suns will sign a veteran.

But with your first statement, who knows friendship can bring him in, back up shooter who can give some time for either KD or Booker.

We will know what will happen once they already decide who they will add to their roster.
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February 13, 2023, 08:34:30 AM
I think Melo's career is over, he averages 13 PPG with the Lakers but he does not give a big impact on the team to win. Maybe if the Suns will acquire him, that will give him a bigger chance to win a championship than his contribution to the team. I have no hate for Melo, but his time being a contributor to the team is already over.

If there's someone I think they should sign, it should be DeMarcus Cousins, he'll surely be a good backup Center for Ayton.

Who knows, friendship can win over game contribution. Cheesy But I do agree with what you say, if they will ever try to sign Melo then I think he will just be a roster filler or a backup shooter for garbage times. Maybe he could also offer some advice to young players in their team.

About Cousins, yes, I'd take him over Melo. He had been showing all his workouts in his social media accounts and I think he suited to play again.
But no team had been interested with him yet and the All-Star is near. If Suns really want to strengthen their core, they may need to add some defensive players because they are now filled with offensive ones.
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February 13, 2023, 07:53:22 AM
Yeah, just realized that there will be another better team that will take him out. And that with that, he'll be able to move along if ever the rumors are true if he's going to be back in Clippers.
Hopefully clippers will be able to to have him, and I also read some article that CP3 wants Melo on the team. How realiable is that?
I've also read that thing about CP3 telling that Suns should also acquire Melo. It's written in some articles and sports publishing websites.
(https://www.basketballinsiders.com/news/chris-paul-wants-phoenix-to-offer-a-contract-to-carmelo-anthony/)

I think Melo's career is over, he averages 13 PPG with the Lakers but he does not give a big impact on the team to win. Maybe if the Suns will acquire him, that will give him a bigger chance to win a championship than his contribution to the team. I have no hate for Melo, but his time being a contributor to the team is already over.

If there's someone I think they should sign, it should be DeMarcus Cousins, he'll surely be a good backup Center for Ayton.
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February 13, 2023, 07:28:55 AM
I'd love to see him back the Clippers as currently, the Clippers need someone who can bring energy on the court.
Still remember the last time when Leonard was injured but the Clippers still managed to reach the WCF, it's their first time actually, and have you known that Beverly has done a big part in that success?
Well, Clippers is packed up and that's going to be a good team if he ever goes back there.
The fact that he does not have a big contract, I'm sure the Clippers have a budget to accommodate him.
However, although we might think that Beverly did a huge part in the last time Clippers went to WCF, Beverly after that season was also traded, so why would the Clippers acquire him again?

Maybe his hustle will make clippers to think about getting him since in the first place they can use him as major distraction to other teams star player. He is also good contributor in the court maybe this can give a plus points for them to take him back on the rooster. But since there's no strong rumor about this maybe people are just assuming that this will happen so maybe lets see how its goes after the buyout since there are still teams interested to get his service and might we might see him on more better team where he can possibly fit in.

Yes, I see your point valid, his contract is not that much so if there's a possibility to sign him Clippers can easily do that. He's
not new to the system and he's always capable of adjusting to his role.

Let see if where he will be going after the buyout, as in terms of improvements we seen him doing good
with the Lakers, but that's how business works. If the team doesn't need you anymore, then you'll see
your name in another team.
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