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February 12, 2023, 07:05:05 AM

Injuries are the one thing that can derail any team's progress, but I hope the Suns can avoid that. As for Paul, his stats really get worse every season, and there's no doubt that Paul is far from his prime. However, as you mentioned, Paul should only play the role of a point guard on the court, and I'd say he's doing a good job of that, as he still averages 8.7 assists per game.

I got to admit that Chris Paul is a great point guard and for him to stay not injured is to just be a point guard but when the opportunity arises make a move for the points right now they got a scoring machine in Kevin Durant's body, so for the team of the Phoenix Suns many are really interested when Kevin Durant traded to them, now I really doubting if the Warriors would make it to the all-star because of this and they have lost to the New and improve Los Angeles Lakers,


Most likely as Durant will not be able to participate in the all star, it's just unfortunate he got injured, but at the same time he is also fortunate because he landed on a championship team.

Kevin Durant will return on February 24 and I sure wish he stays healthy until the playoffs or the finals, but I am doubting that the Suns will keep on winning without him you can say they have other players that are making a huge performance change and for good, but pretty much let's just wait because right now The Dallas Mavericks is showing potential aswell now that Kyrie Irving was there and an injured Luka Doncic is surely glad on the results,

Ayton always play good defense, if there's someone who needs to play good defense, it should be Chris Paul as he is known to be a good defender, but it's still positive if he is on the floor as he can facilitate the ball well.

Nope Chris Paul is not a good defender you can not trust him with the defense or some steals anymore, he is a ball handler and I think he needs to stay that way right now he is 37 years old and not like Lebron James that are moving smoothly in the court Chris Paul got very limited movement now, not like in his prime you can surely see it, if you stop him on his track he will surely blown out and the choking is now very prone for him,

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February 12, 2023, 06:57:13 AM
What a great game in Sacramento! The Kings definitely stepped up their game here as the Mavericks have Luka and Kyrie and they are not easy to deal with. Fox made 36 points and Sabonis with his usual double-double of 22 points and 14 rebounds. It was so damn entertaining I forgot to put a bet for the Kings.  Grin They won the game in overtime.

This is the help Luka had been looking for, they may be defeated in this game but they showed how strong they are if there are options for their offense.
And Luka just got back so I won't expect anything yet from him and the chemistry with Kyrie.

This is just the first game of Luka with Kyrie, let them adjust first, of course, they don't have the chemistry yet but the Kings are really good, they are for real and they have a good chance to play in the playoffs this season. Eventually, this Dallas team will be able to adjust, it's new to us because usually Luka will easily score 30 points and sometimes have a double-double, but this time his production was reduced since Kyrie assumed the other.
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February 12, 2023, 06:35:35 AM
What a great game in Sacramento! The Kings definitely stepped up their game here as the Mavericks have Luka and Kyrie and they are not easy to deal with. Fox made 36 points and Sabonis with his usual double-double of 22 points and 14 rebounds. It was so damn entertaining I forgot to put a bet for the Kings.  Grin They won the game in overtime.

This is the help Luka had been looking for, they may be defeated in this game but they showed how strong they are if there are options for their offense.
And Luka just got back so I won't expect anything yet from him and the chemistry with Kyrie.
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February 12, 2023, 06:26:36 AM

As of right now, I wouldn't put much stock in the Suns' prospects of making the NBA Finals this year. Yes, Durant, Booker, and CP3 provide them a lot of offensive firepower, but it will take some time for them to gel as a team. Given his importance on defense, Ayton's performances this season will be a major element in deciding the Suns' fate.

I think they just have enough time to make that chemistry work. We have not seen Durant play yet, he is still healing his injury, but the moment he joined the practice, I'm sure slowly they will form a good band as these star players that are within the team are very much hungry to win a championship, especially for Chris Paul who has been in the league for awhile.
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February 12, 2023, 06:18:14 AM
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Durant will be more willing to help this team to reach the NBA Finals. When he was still with the Nets, he only got Irving, now he has all he needs to create a good team. CP3 and Booker can both be effective in the offense, while they have a good center at the same time. I can see that they'll not only pass the 2nd round, they'll reach the WCF the least.
Oh, I understand. However, there are several variables that might affect an NBA team's success. It's not enough to have a group of individually excellent players on your squad; you also need to consider their ability to work together, the state of their mental and physical health, and their responsiveness to changes in the opponent's playstyle.

As of right now, I wouldn't put much stock in the Suns' prospects of making the NBA Finals this year. Yes, Durant, Booker, and CP3 provide them a lot of offensive firepower, but it will take some time for them to gel as a team. Given his importance on defense, Ayton's performances this season will be a major element in deciding the Suns' fate.
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February 12, 2023, 05:30:37 AM
Suns is what Luka look up as a biggest opponent to defeat since they have Durant, CP3 and Booker which can deliver good performance according to their role. Suns is really a big problem since their rooster now is so deep so I guess other team also preparing for them since they are not so easy compare when Durant is on Brooklyn since they really have problem on chemistry and execution at that time.

We still need to confirm that because Durant failed to deliver on Brookly even if they are tandem with Kyrie. Durant is already not on his peak compared before so I’m now not that confident on the team he belongs unless he delivers already. He is monster when he is on GSW because his teammates is capable on carrying him on his bad game.

Booker and CP3 sometimes not that reliable if they have a bad game like what happened on last playoffs when they are beaten by Mavs. I think Nuggets and Grizzlies are more scarier than Suns with unproven Durant on their roster. They gave up a lot of there roster just to get Durant so I’m sure there will be a repercussions on this trade which we can find out once Durant play in actual.

Make no mistake when Durant is back on the court that team is the team to beat.  Durant was playing with scrubs in Brooklyn when kyrie wasn't on the floor.  With cp3 setting the table who you guarding book, Durant?  Gonna single cover ayton down in the low post.  Going from bridges to Durant was an insane upgrade at the 3/4 spot.

Yes and surely, that will be a nightmare for the team that will face them in the game especially if the roster of Phoenix Suns is all healthy and without any struggles on their past injuries. But that's just the good side and they are really hard to beat if that happens but how about the opposite one? Or let's say that Durant will be injured, I guess they don't have any good replacement when that happens now because they gave too much in-exchange for KD. But for the sake of entertainment, it will be fun if all teams that will be playing post-season are all healthy so that we can see an interesting games.
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February 12, 2023, 04:41:45 AM
So right after the all star, or when KD is available, we will see how his blending with the other 2 super stars of Phoenix.
Most likely as Durant will not be able to participate in the all star, it's just unfortunate he got injured, but at the same time he is also fortunate because he landed on a championship team.

I think the key here will be Ayton, because he will have to play good defense as they have loaded with offensive weapons already.
Ayton always play good defense, if there's someone who needs to play good defense, it should be Chris Paul as he is known to be a good defender, but it's still positive if he is on the floor as he can facilitate the ball well.
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February 12, 2023, 03:50:21 AM
Suns had that one season when they were pretty good, but CP3 has been getting older and Ayton has been quite unhappy at the team, so Booker himself couldn't handle the whole load himself. With Durant on the floor and Booker there as well, just those two would be amazing duo for any team, they will definitely be much better without a doubt. However, CP3 and Ayton are not bad for third and fourth options neither, could be harder for second position but when you add someone as amazing as Durant, then suddenly these two work out very well too. I think they are pretty good and could fight for a title but they still have many teams they have to beat first, but I would say they are the best in west right now, depending on how Durant will do of course.

That was their first year together, they went as high to the finals, but lost to the Bucks. And then we thought that they will make a run again the next season, but with all the Ayton drama, not getting a max rookie contract, they choke in the second round against the Dallas team lead by Luka. Booker's mistake that time is to trash talk him throughout the series, but Luka just destroyed them mentally. So let's see, it seems that they are in a momentum because of their price acquisition, although losing 2 of their core.

With a healthy KD as their reinforcement, I can say that the winning chance is good for the Suns, they can move to the next round
and maybe a possible another West side Semis or maybe more than that.

We can't conclude yet, but hopefully they'll manage how to work together for that
same goal in winning a title.

Durant will be more willing to help this team to reach the NBA Finals. When he was still with the Nets, he only got Irving, now he has all he needs to create a good team. CP3 and Booker can both be effective in the offense, while they have a good center at the same time. I can see that they'll not only pass the 2nd round, they'll reach the WCF the least.

It's too early to call that, it's a bold statement but we will have to see how the chemistry first and then we can speculate how good it will be or how far they can reach this season. Booker and CP3 was almost there, and if I'm not mistaken, it was the first time that CP3 is healthy and has a chance, but Giannis is too good during that run.

So right after the all star, or when KD is available, we will see how his blending with the other 2 super stars of Phoenix. I think the key here will be Ayton, because he will have to play good defense as they have loaded with offensive weapons already.
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February 12, 2023, 03:38:56 AM
Suns had that one season when they were pretty good, but CP3 has been getting older and Ayton has been quite unhappy at the team, so Booker himself couldn't handle the whole load himself. With Durant on the floor and Booker there as well, just those two would be amazing duo for any team, they will definitely be much better without a doubt. However, CP3 and Ayton are not bad for third and fourth options neither, could be harder for second position but when you add someone as amazing as Durant, then suddenly these two work out very well too. I think they are pretty good and could fight for a title but they still have many teams they have to beat first, but I would say they are the best in west right now, depending on how Durant will do of course.

That was their first year together, they went as high to the finals, but lost to the Bucks. And then we thought that they will make a run again the next season, but with all the Ayton drama, not getting a max rookie contract, they choke in the second round against the Dallas team lead by Luka. Booker's mistake that time is to trash talk him throughout the series, but Luka just destroyed them mentally. So let's see, it seems that they are in a momentum because of their price acquisition, although losing 2 of their core.

With a healthy KD as their reinforcement, I can say that the winning chance is good for the Suns, they can move to the next round
and maybe a possible another West side Semis or maybe more than that.

We can't conclude yet, but hopefully they'll manage how to work together for that
same goal in winning a title.

Durant will be more willing to help this team to reach the NBA Finals. When he was still with the Nets, he only got Irving, now he has all he needs to create a good team. CP3 and Booker can both be effective in the offense, while they have a good center at the same time. I can see that they'll not only pass the 2nd round, they'll reach the WCF the least.
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February 12, 2023, 02:14:12 AM
Suns had that one season when they were pretty good, but CP3 has been getting older and Ayton has been quite unhappy at the team, so Booker himself couldn't handle the whole load himself. With Durant on the floor and Booker there as well, just those two would be amazing duo for any team, they will definitely be much better without a doubt. However, CP3 and Ayton are not bad for third and fourth options neither, could be harder for second position but when you add someone as amazing as Durant, then suddenly these two work out very well too. I think they are pretty good and could fight for a title but they still have many teams they have to beat first, but I would say they are the best in west right now, depending on how Durant will do of course.

That was their first year together, they went as high to the finals, but lost to the Bucks. And then we thought that they will make a run again the next season, but with all the Ayton drama, not getting a max rookie contract, they choke in the second round against the Dallas team lead by Luka. Booker's mistake that time is to trash talk him throughout the series, but Luka just destroyed them mentally. So let's see, it seems that they are in a momentum because of their price acquisition, although losing 2 of their core.

With a healthy KD as their reinforcement, I can say that the winning chance is good for the Suns, they can move to the next round
and maybe a possible another West side Semis or maybe more than that.

We can't conclude yet, but hopefully they'll manage how to work together for that
same goal in winning a title.
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February 12, 2023, 01:58:40 AM
On paper yes they are a great team but looking at CP3'averaging now he is not the same Chris Paul, but sure enough, he can set up a play for the team and be a 100% point guard this whole season because now they have Kevin Durant, but surely those guys are all prone to injuries even Devin Booker could get injured aswell, yes they are a very good team now, but what about the problems if Kevin Durant could handle the pressure of just being in the Phoenix Suns, that Deandre Ayton had already conquered, for me at some point those problems will surely show themselves in the future right now let's just wait for Kevin Durant to start playing with them,

Injuries are the one thing that can derail any team's progress, but I hope the Suns can avoid that. As for Paul, his stats really get worse every season, and there's no doubt that Paul is far from his prime. However, as you mentioned, Paul should only play the role of a point guard on the court, and I'd say he's doing a good job of that, as he still averages 8.7 assists per game.
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February 12, 2023, 01:53:31 AM
Suns had that one season when they were pretty good, but CP3 has been getting older and Ayton has been quite unhappy at the team, so Booker himself couldn't handle the whole load himself. With Durant on the floor and Booker there as well, just those two would be amazing duo for any team, they will definitely be much better without a doubt. However, CP3 and Ayton are not bad for third and fourth options neither, could be harder for second position but when you add someone as amazing as Durant, then suddenly these two work out very well too. I think they are pretty good and could fight for a title but they still have many teams they have to beat first, but I would say they are the best in west right now, depending on how Durant will do of course.

That was their first year together, they went as high to the finals, but lost to the Bucks. And then we thought that they will make a run again the next season, but with all the Ayton drama, not getting a max rookie contract, they choke in the second round against the Dallas team lead by Luka. Booker's mistake that time is to trash talk him throughout the series, but Luka just destroyed them mentally. So let's see, it seems that they are in a momentum because of their price acquisition, although losing 2 of their core.
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February 11, 2023, 11:57:36 PM
Suns had that one season when they were pretty good, but CP3 has been getting older and Ayton has been quite unhappy at the team, so Booker himself couldn't handle the whole load himself. With Durant on the floor and Booker there as well, just those two would be amazing duo for any team, they will definitely be much better without a doubt. However, CP3 and Ayton are not bad for third and fourth options neither, could be harder for second position but when you add someone as amazing as Durant, then suddenly these two work out very well too. I think they are pretty good and could fight for a title but they still have many teams they have to beat first, but I would say they are the best in west right now, depending on how Durant will do of course.
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February 11, 2023, 11:14:06 PM
I'll be rooting for this combination to work out, and I hope even more that CP3 gets his dreamed champion ring

Paul deserves to have at least one championship ring, but he doesn't have much time left. His current contract with the Suns will expire after the 24/25 season, and that's probably the last contract of his career because he'll be 40 years old by then. So it looks like Durant is Paul's last hope, although, as I said before, winning a championship won't be an easy task for the Suns.

The competition in the West now has getting harder and harder to climb especially for the Suns even if they got a good additional by acquiring Kevin Durant into their roster. Because how about if one or two of them gets injured in the playoffs where the intensity of the game brings too much wear and tear to the player, who will be the replacement of the said injured if there are already no reliable role players available. CP3 surely deserves to have at least one ring, but can they do it this season? Maybe but it won't be an easy journey as well as for the other teams in the league now.
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February 11, 2023, 11:07:31 PM

We still need to confirm that because Durant failed to deliver on Brookly even if they are tandem with Kyrie. Durant is already not on his peak compared before so I’m now not that confident on the team he belongs unless he delivers already. He is monster when he is on GSW because his teammates is capable on carrying him on his bad game.

Booker and CP3 sometimes not that reliable if they have a bad game like what happened on last playoffs when they are beaten by Mavs. I think Nuggets and Grizzlies are more scarier than Suns with unproven Durant on their roster. They gave up a lot of there roster just to get Durant so I’m sure there will be a repercussions on this trade which we can find out once Durant play in actual.

I agree to be a 37-year-old Chris Paul isn't healthy anymore and is most prone to injuries now, now that I was thinking about that Kevin Durant trade to the Suns I surely doubted if that could be convenient for the Suns or a liability, sure Kevin Durant is a monster of a player and could also play on every team he comes across with but right now a 3.5 years contract Durant versus a much younger player for the team is what the Suns needed and regarding the 37 years CP3 that mostly injured or isn't consistent anymore, I could think of something better for the Suns, and for Kevin Durant a better team he could possibly be, but the Phoenix Suns is sure willing to give their all in acquiring him to play for the team,


Make no mistake when Durant is back on the court that team is the team to beat.  Durant was playing with scrubs in Brooklyn when kyrie wasn't on the floor.  With cp3 setting the table who you guarding book, Durant?  Gonna single cover ayton down in the low post.  Going from bridges to Durant was an insane upgrade at the 3/4 spot.

On paper yes they are a great team but looking at CP3'averaging now he is not the same Chris Paul, but sure enough, he can set up a play for the team and be a 100% point guard this whole season because now they have Kevin Durant, but surely those guys are all prone to injuries even Devin Booker could get injured aswell, yes they are a very good team now, but what about the problems if Kevin Durant could handle the pressure of just being in the Phoenix Suns, that Deandre Ayton had already conquered, for me at some point those problems will surely show themselves in the future right now let's just wait for Kevin Durant to start playing with them,

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February 11, 2023, 10:42:18 PM
Here's the information about the upcoming all-star game.
https://www.espn.ph/nba/story/_/id/35107493/nba-all-star-game-2023-location-schedule-rosters-news-more

Based on my understanding, there's an Eastern team and a Western team in which Giannis and Lebron are the captains respectively.
So from the name of the teams itself, it's the battle of the best in the West and the East, and since Irving was already transferred to the West, he should play in the West and his slot will be replaced in the East. The same goes with other players that are traded from West to East or vice versa.

Also, Durant will not play because he is recovering from injury.
Thanks, bro.
So there will be no picks that will happen anymore. And both players will still play for the East. I guess it doesn't matter too as this is just an event of the NBA so wherever they play it's just to enjoy the game.


Now Luka has an all-star on his side already, and both of them are currently playing as of this moment against the Kings. What I observe also in the Mavericks is that they have this Josh Green who is emerging and becoming the scorer of the team. He scored double digits in his last 4 games. If he will continue to play on that pace, he will be a good addition to the offense of the team.
One of the future stars of the league, Josh Green. As long as he gets those minutes he will definitely contribute to the Mavs and I think Mark Cuban is also liking that guy. The hustle and energy can create a big change, even McGee is showing off.  Grin No time for Shaqtin.
But we have not seen yet what is the difference when Luka is with them. Perhaps, there will be changes in the play as the ball rotation will be different.
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February 11, 2023, 10:24:04 PM
Lots of good things happening for Dallas right now, even if Luka is resting due to injury, their ranking is not affected, in fact, they are slowly going up in the ranking due to the 2 wins Kyrie had contributed so far. The pressure of Luka is now minimize, they'll certainly make it to the playoffs as Irving has a heart of a champion and he'll do everything to make Dallas a great team.

Agree that somehow, Dallas Mavericks is currently on the good track. Luka's demand to the management to at least have an upgrade on their roster is being granted and he was even considered asking for his permission on that trade.

Although Kyrie is known for showing sudden changes in behavior out of nowhere, it seems that he's having a good day playing with the Mavericks.

Hope that consistency of his thinking only pure basketball and not anything else will continue.
Well, many are wanting for the Mavericks to have another all-star that will play beside Luka.
We know how NBA is right now. In order for a team to win, it has at least 2-3 all-star players on it. One isn't enough in the current era right now. 2 is needed to have a chance to win.

Now Luka has an all-star on his side already, and both of them are currently playing as of this moment against the Kings. What I observe also in the Mavericks is that they have this Josh Green who is emerging and becoming the scorer of the team. He scored double digits in his last 4 games. If he will continue to play on that pace, he will be a good addition to the offense of the team.
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February 11, 2023, 07:45:04 PM
Many of us here have the same concern. No doubt that they certainly one of the strongest team now but that could really stop their reign if one of them becomes injure. KD is injury prone and that's not going to change the fact that he might get it again.
I guess they can manage to take care of this and they'll also be preserving most of these good players that they've got in the team. And that is because they're anticipating that they'll be making it to the finals or if not, close to the next stages.

Kevin Durant is likely to be prone to injuries and he can not do something about it because of his age, likely players that are 30 plus years are more prone to getting injured, but the good part about this is when those 4 players have combined and can play in a single game make no mistake the odds will be higher and the eye for that team for it to win is surely huge, those injuries are not permanent to the players and players would likely be healed of their injuries, so there is a chance for KD to play for the playoffs or the championship if Phoenix Suns would not be handed down with the Luka Special or if they could make it Through,
The healing process of the players depending on them and how severe the injury is. And yes, they've been through with it and they also healed afterwards.
I think we're all giving the same hype to the team because what we're all expecting is that they really are a strong and contender to hit the championship.
But hopefully, they'll justify that hype that we as fans are expecting and giving to them because there is no doubt on the posture of the team composed with these rosters.

He comeback from one of the worst injuries for a basketball player is, however, he is injured again so yeah, I do believed that as he aged he will be prone to be injured, just like what Steph is right now, wherein they are in the age bracket wherein their body is just giving in because of the wear and tear.

However, I believed that the next 2 years will be the biggest for Durant, it will be a measurement if he is going to slow down a bit or still the same KD when he comes back as a Phoenix player and more likely, after the All-Star Break.
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February 11, 2023, 05:44:48 PM
I would love to see how KD will add his greatness to the Suns franchise,  let's hope for the best on both Suns and KD partnerships.

They'll be tested once they already playing together I'm sure they'll find ways to make
Things workable in chasing  a ring, Booker and CP3 are longing to have a ring hopefully they'll going to adjust.
Well, that's true! I'll also be curious to see how Durant will benefit the Suns.
CP3 + KD + Booker + Ayton (I have no doubt this could be an excellent combination, but let's see if they have chemistry between them.

I'll be rooting for this combination to work out, and I hope even more that CP3 gets his dreamed champion ring

If the chemistry between these players is successful, they can become champions. but my fear is the players who will get injured when playoff time comes. The Suns have a good squad right now, but if one of these names is injured, the number of good players who can replace him in the team is low. So they can run into problems.
It will be an exciting playoff, I hope they manage to win the ring. The retirement age is now very close Smiley

Exactly! You said something that didn't come to my mind...

During the playoffs some players can get injured more easily, especially CP3, he has a history of injuries during the recurring playoffs, and I have no doubt that this could be a big problem for the Suns.

I believe the Suns should have "some plan B" in case this kind of problem occurs for them during the playoffs.
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February 11, 2023, 05:41:19 PM
I guess it will all be an isolation play when they hand KD the ball and Booker will be on the play style with Ayton and CP3. There will be a lot of adjustments that they need to polish as this will be the first they will have two assassins in both mid-range and outside shots. Will be looking forward at seeing them rotating the ball more.

It will be too easy to read through if it always is isolation for KD. Especially in the playoff, where opponents have time to dissect your plays. But it is interesting to know how coach Monty Williams will deploy these four together on the floor. Especially on crunch time, who will have the ball?

Booker should be the leader here because he is the franchise player, but he has to make sure that chemistry will exist as that's the only way that will give them a chance in the NBA Finals. They have been in the playoffs many times but Booker sometimes are not consistent because he is checked easily by their opponents, now that they have Durant who are a monster in scoring, they should be very unpredictable comes the playoffs.

Now that you mention it, you are right. He is good in the regular season but somehow, he is inconsistent during the playoffs. Just like how he choked in the playoffs last year or how he badly played against the Bucks in the finals the year before. I guess, though the Suns are his team, it will be KD's ball whenever they are in the pinch in the dying moments of the game. We all know KD is a killer and probably will not choke when the game is the line.

We still need to confirm that because Durant failed to deliver on Brookly even if they are tandem with Kyrie. Durant is already not on his peak compared before so I’m now not that confident on the team he belongs unless he delivers already. He is monster when he is on GSW because his teammates is capable on carrying him on his bad game.

He is a monster, but he cannot carry a team alone, especially in an era where superteams are formed. His tenure in the Nets is full of drama. He spent the first year on the bench since the Nets acquired him injured. Then there is the drama in Kyrie, then the problem with their coach Steve Nash. A team can have all the all-stars but will not win if it is that dysfunctional. Hopefully, with Monty William at the helm, we will see the full potential of KD unleashed in Phoenix. I want to see him play at a team that plays basketball as a team and not pure hero ball.
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