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October 28, 2022, 05:58:57 PM
Looking at the standings, for Utah Jazz, they're always like this during the early games up to the playoffs but can't manage to land in the finals. Hopefully by this season, we may see some teams like them going to the finals.
But it's a different team now, they have almost disbanded the team that always fell short in the playoff. And it seems that it rejuvenated the team itself. But it's too early to say how they will fare in this season. They could pull a surprised and make the playoff.
Surprise is the word here to describe this newly built Jazz team. I think other teams will be able to adjust and figure out soon how to stop them. We'll see how they perform as the season continues.

Phoenix Suns VS New Orleans Pelicans

The Stake odds for this game are 1.33 for the Suns and 3.45 for the Pelicans, right now the Pelicans are in bad shape full of injured players and some questionable if they can play or if they will be 100% be great inside the ring, so I am going with the Phoenix Suns,
I agree with the odds since their own big 3 has been ruled out. This would have been a good game to watch if most of the key Pelicans players were available.

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October 28, 2022, 05:36:45 PM
OK, I am stopping the Parley for now, because there are pretty much close odds for this game, so here are my picks for today's game,

Orlando Magic VS Charlotte Hornets

The Stake odds for this game are 2.06 for the Magic and 1.80 for the Hornets, Right now the Magic is full of injured players which is why the new players are playing, but this could be a great time for them to get experience, but still, they are not that in the all-star level, so my pick is the Hornets,

Toronto Raptors VS Philadelphia 76ers

The Stake odds for this game are 1.76 for the Raptors, and 2.12 for the 76ers, Joel Embiid right now is questionable if he can play, and right now I think the Raptors have the advantage for this match and relying on the game to James Harden is not a consistent win for sure, so my pick is the Toronto Raptors,

Boston Celtics VS Cleveland Cavaliers

The Stake odds for this game are 1.39 for the Celtics and 3.15 for the Cavaliers, Right now the Boston Celtics are in a lot of green, right now so for this game I think an easy pick will be the Boston Celtics,

Milwaukee Bucks VS New York Knicks

The Stake odds for this game are 1.43 for the Bucks and 2.95 for the Knicks, Right now Pat Connaughton and Khris Middleton can not play for the Bucks, while New York Knicks had great momentum towards their game, for me I might like the Milwaukee Bucks but because of the situation my pick is the New York Knicks,

Phoenix Suns VS New Orleans Pelicans

The Stake odds for this game are 1.33 for the Suns and 3.45 for the Pelicans, right now the Pelicans are in bad shape full of injured players and some questionable if they can play or if they will be 100% be great inside the ring, so I am going with the Phoenix Suns,
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October 28, 2022, 03:16:36 PM
I think there would be no team in the league right now who will accept Westbrook if in case the Lakers will choose to trade him. I guess it's just too late.

There will always be a team that will sign Russell Westbrook but not the same as what the Lakers offered him.

It's a good catch if teams can get him at a fair price.

During the off-season, there are lots of trade packages offered from other teams that the Lakers received for Westbrook but none of those satisfy them because as reported, part of the Westbrook deal should also include some of the future first-round picks of the Lakers which seems a bad idea to risks with.

Therefore, instead of pushing trading Westbrook, they keep the current roster intact for this season and that's what we are seeing right now. As I said before, trading Westbrook depends on how the team will behave this season. I'm thinking that the decision of trading Westbrook will be finalized after seeing their progress in the mid-half of the season.
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October 28, 2022, 02:08:01 PM
There's nothing to lose for the Jazz even if they'll have an 1st round exit in the playoffs. Getting to the playoffs is already a big achievement and I'm pretty sure the management will be happy with their young rosters, and of course, they will eventually improve in the seasons to come if they will keep their players and add more role players.
With the current performances of Jazz, the management might consider the rebuilding as successful.

Though still early from this season and maybe they will be contented if ever the team manage to move to the next round,
the current your roster is doing great and the chemistry between players is really blending well.
I can say that even they might choke again during the next round. It is safe to say that they are not
composed of stars who are really capable of winning a series.
How could they consider it a success? It is as failure as it could possibly get if you ask me. Because, they need to tank in order to get good rookies, right now they may look good because of the scores but they are not at all.

Who are they going to win a championship with? Conley? Markkanen? Clarkson? Beasley? Of course not, this team may look decent enough for the time being but they are not, they got lucky a few games but I guarantee you that they won't win 50 games, and probably even fail to get over 40 games. They just had a lucky start to the season and that’s it. They need to tank so that they could get good picks and good players, this current situation is not good at all.
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October 28, 2022, 01:46:25 PM
Yeah, it's the whole team.

Sad to see that they have to struggle this early. It's now a serious matter that there should be some re-strategize that must be done or else, we'll just keep seeing them losing their next games.

Most fans are expecting them to go lowball and there's no retrieval from them anymore. But let's see if the next games will show some difference and if it will break their losing streak.

On the one hand, it might be too early to say that the Lakers will be underdogs because the regular season has just begun, and they still have enough time. On the other hand, such a poor start to the season has become the worst for the Lakers in the last 7 seasons, and it's obvious that they have some internal problems which they should solve as soon as possible. Of course, the Lakers will break this losing streak sooner or later, but I doubt they will be able to do that in the upcoming games because their next opponents will be the Wolves, Nuggets, and Pelicans.
Yes, there's still enough time for them and it's funny to see that some pages that I've been following started to post memes about them that they're already out of the playoffs this early.

Well, I just have to address that because I've noticed them making fun of the team with their struggle.

If there's an internal problem, they should do something about it as soon as possible before this streak goes on.
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October 28, 2022, 11:45:37 AM
The Sixers situation is different, I know that Harden is very hungry to win each game but that statement of yours saying that Harden is only the one worked hard to give the team a win is indeed not true, you're just referring to that only game where Harden explodes with 29 points and the only game where they won. How about those 3 games that they lost? Where's Harden? Embiid and Maxey are the ones who carried the team, Harden have almost 40 minutes per game yet he scored so low.
They played better when they only have Maxey as the point but I am not saying Harden is the weak link. Perhaps, Doc Rivers should tweak some of his plays.
I am not sure what is happening to them but their offensive power is intact, I don't know about the defense though. They look like a team that will just answer every score made by their opponent and not make stops.
It could be the reason why they won't win any with defensive teams like the Raptors.
5 blocks vs 2 76ers
9 steals vs 6 76ers
21 fouls made by the Raptors vs 12 76ers - that means they are not that physical anymore.
Sure, they patch it up by adding Tucker but that won't be enough.
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October 28, 2022, 10:03:05 AM
While the Lakers continue to struggle and I guess this could go on to 0-10 as they all have a tougher opponent in thier first 10 games lol.

I bet on the Lakers today thinking they are gonna play hard, but it's still the same, this team has no hope, with or without Westbrook they still continue to struggle. I think Lebron is not anymore the king because he cannot anymore carry his team.  Grin

Yeah, and I thought that same, they have reported that Westbrook will not play, so we assumed that something different is going to happen. But nothing, just the usual Lakers who just didn't have what it takes to have a win. Although their opponent is a tough team, but still at least they should make it close.

Another huge game by Giannis to lead the Bucks against the struggling Nets team. 43 points for him and 14 rebounds.
Bobby Portis also had a double double with 20 points and 11 rebounds. And obviously, its KD and Kyrie who carry the Nets but it's not enough.

The nets also are the same team, they can't finish the game with a win, also, I notice about Durant's Shooting, he is not as good as During his prime, probably because he was really affected by his previous injury. Durant scored 33 points but he was -17, which means his impact does not help the team much. Also, the Nets lose their aggressiveness in grabbing the ball as they are outrebounded by the Bucks. 54-37, big difference.

They are much dominated by Bucks that's why maybe there's an effect on mental toughness especially with Simmons so they really need to figure out the problem because looking at their rooster they already have solid rooster already its just they need to make this work together and they need chemistry also with consistency.

I almost forgot, yeah, Simmons is considered a star player as he was traded for James Harden, but look at his performance, he was even worse that Russell Westbrook of the LA Lakers. Simmons played 34 points but only made 4 points, I get that he had 9 assists but the Nets really needs to spread their offense, and not rely on Durant and Irving only.

What they need is another wing man to do some of the offensive jobs, they need someone who can help Irving and Durant carry the load to get the team a win, Seth Curry can help but he is not that yet reliable and consistent. And for Simmons? We cannot really expect him to help contribute some scores for the team because it is simply not his forte, he is more suitable in setting the table for his teammate can shoot easily and to create diversions.
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October 28, 2022, 09:59:21 AM

Looking at the standings, for Utah Jazz, they're always like this during the early games up to the playoffs but can't manage to land in the finals. Hopefully by this season, we may see some teams like them going to the finals.

But it's a different team now, they have almost disbanded the team that always fell short in the playoff. And it seems that it rejuvenated the team itself. But it's too early to say how they will fare in this season. They could pull a surprised and make the playoff.

There's nothing to lose for the Jazz even if they'll have an 1st round exit in the playoffs. Getting to the playoffs is already a big achievement and I'm pretty sure the management will be happy with their young rosters, and of course, they will eventually improve in the seasons to come if they will keep their players and add more role players.

With the current performances of Jazz, the management might consider the rebuilding as successful.

Though still early from this season and maybe they will be contented if ever the team manage to move to the next round,
the current your roster is doing great and the chemistry between players is really blending well.
I can say that even they might choke again during the next round. It is safe to say that they are not
composed of stars who are really capable of winning a series.

So true. They tried for a couple of years to build a squad full of stars and it almost worked for them but this rebuilding so far from Jazz is on point , with class players , great coach and fans always ready to back them up. Like you said , the chemistry is starting to see on the court and if last year was tough to win on Jazz court , this year I find it way more difficult. However, play-offs are still far away and anything can happen.

Tonight , my team Bulls are playing and I'm satisfied with Bulls so far as I don't have any reasons not to be with this being the 2nd year when I can finally be proud again as a Bulls fan. Grin
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October 28, 2022, 09:37:43 AM
The sad thing about them is the fact that there is nothing they could do about it neither. Like they are bad right now and if they change something up then they will become good? That is not possible, the roster sucks big time, they have a terrible roster and Lebron is looking for a way out right away, he doesn't want to spend last 1-2 years in a terrible team.

Long story short, Lakers will be tanking this year, and not even getting any proper rookies because they don't own their picks, and they are just going to suck because they suck and not tanking for wembeyamba. Alli n all I am guessing that they will finish the season with about 25 wins give or take, if they get any better maybe 30 wins but that’s it, they are just too terrible.

If there's anything worse than the Lakers being this bad, it's LeBron being in this situation. Despite his age, he has a great performance, he is still very athletic and I think he is one of the best players in the world. But right now the team is in such a bad shape that LeBron's effort is useless.
Maybe he could win a new ring with another team, but he won't even make the playoffs as long as he stays with the Lakers Sad

Lebron's legacy is now affected by the performance of his team, people should stop comparing him to Jordan because he will never be close to the GOAT. I think the Lakers really made a bad decision trading their shooters just to get Westbrook, after they won the championship, they kinda experiment with something and they are still paying it until now.
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October 28, 2022, 09:25:14 AM
The sad thing about them is the fact that there is nothing they could do about it neither. Like they are bad right now and if they change something up then they will become good? That is not possible, the roster sucks big time, they have a terrible roster and Lebron is looking for a way out right away, he doesn't want to spend last 1-2 years in a terrible team.

Long story short, Lakers will be tanking this year, and not even getting any proper rookies because they don't own their picks, and they are just going to suck because they suck and not tanking for wembeyamba. Alli n all I am guessing that they will finish the season with about 25 wins give or take, if they get any better maybe 30 wins but that’s it, they are just too terrible.

If there's anything worse than the Lakers being this bad, it's LeBron being in this situation. Despite his age, he has a great performance, he is still very athletic and I think he is one of the best players in the world. But right now the team is in such a bad shape that LeBron's effort is useless.
Maybe he could win a new ring with another team, but he won't even make the playoffs as long as he stays with the Lakers Sad
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October 28, 2022, 09:07:30 AM
With or without Russ , Lakers still lost so I don't think the problem is Russ and most likely the entire team has a problem and they don't want to play together anymore. But wait , they are not alone because 76ers are looking like Huston 3 years ago when Harder was trying to win games by himself and he is trying but he is trying alone ... . Anyway, I'm happy with my team Bulls with the W and Bucks gave no chance to Nets...another Lakers and 76ers story is happening there as well. Grin

Lakers are much likely the same situation with the Brooklyn Nets, rather than with the Sixers because the superstars in the first two teams mentioned is not getting what they expected, they thought they could be much harder to defeat given that their rosters are quite heavy, yet the opposite thing is happening to them.

The Sixers situation is different, I know that Harden is very hungry to win each game but that statement of yours saying that Harden is only the one worked hard to give the team a win is indeed not true, you're just referring to that only game where Harden explodes with 29 points and the only game where they won. How about those 3 games that they lost? Where's Harden? Embiid and Maxey are the ones who carried the team, Harden have almost 40 minutes per game yet he scored so low.
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October 28, 2022, 08:42:35 AM
I think this season Luka has a high chance of finally winning an mvp award, his stats is really impressive. Last two season is dominated by the Joker, so I think Luka will try to make his own name this season, hopefully he will continue to be healthy.

Although I believe that he will win the regular season MVP but his team is still not a championship team.
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October 28, 2022, 07:41:33 AM

Looking at the standings, for Utah Jazz, they're always like this during the early games up to the playoffs but can't manage to land in the finals. Hopefully by this season, we may see some teams like them going to the finals.

But it's a different team now, they have almost disbanded the team that always fell short in the playoff. And it seems that it rejuvenated the team itself. But it's too early to say how they will fare in this season. They could pull a surprised and make the playoff.

There's nothing to lose for the Jazz even if they'll have an 1st round exit in the playoffs. Getting to the playoffs is already a big achievement and I'm pretty sure the management will be happy with their young rosters, and of course, they will eventually improve in the seasons to come if they will keep their players and add more role players.

With the current performances of Jazz, the management might consider the rebuilding as successful.

Though still early from this season and maybe they will be contented if ever the team manage to move to the next round,
the current your roster is doing great and the chemistry between players is really blending well.
I can say that even they might choke again during the next round. It is safe to say that they are not
composed of stars who are really capable of winning a series.
Though Jazz is into rebuilding but they have the experience in the playoffs already, in fact, what I'm seeing now is that they are an improve team compared to the old Jazz. Its just too bad it took time for them to figure out that the team has a problem with Mitchell, so it's a wise decision trading him.
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October 28, 2022, 07:06:39 AM

Looking at the standings, for Utah Jazz, they're always like this during the early games up to the playoffs but can't manage to land in the finals. Hopefully by this season, we may see some teams like them going to the finals.

But it's a different team now, they have almost disbanded the team that always fell short in the playoff. And it seems that it rejuvenated the team itself. But it's too early to say how they will fare in this season. They could pull a surprised and make the playoff.

There's nothing to lose for the Jazz even if they'll have an 1st round exit in the playoffs. Getting to the playoffs is already a big achievement and I'm pretty sure the management will be happy with their young rosters, and of course, they will eventually improve in the seasons to come if they will keep their players and add more role players.

With the current performances of Jazz, the management might consider the rebuilding as successful.

Though still early from this season and maybe they will be contented if ever the team manage to move to the next round,
the current your roster is doing great and the chemistry between players is really blending well.
I can say that even they might choke again during the next round. It is safe to say that they are not
composed of stars who are really capable of winning a series.
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October 28, 2022, 06:52:43 AM

Looking at the standings, for Utah Jazz, they're always like this during the early games up to the playoffs but can't manage to land in the finals. Hopefully by this season, we may see some teams like them going to the finals.

But it's a different team now, they have almost disbanded the team that always fell short in the playoff. And it seems that it rejuvenated the team itself. But it's too early to say how they will fare in this season. They could pull a surprised and make the playoff.

There's nothing to lose for the Jazz even if they'll have an 1st round exit in the playoffs. Getting to the playoffs is already a big achievement and I'm pretty sure the management will be happy with their young rosters, and of course, they will eventually improve in the seasons to come if they will keep their players and add more role players.
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October 28, 2022, 06:08:05 AM
Current standing of the Los Angeles Lakers is 0-4 which is indeed a very chaotic and frustrating start for the franchise this season, their next game is against the Timberwolves and I bet their standing will turn to 0-5 because AD is still questionable to return in that said game while Westbrook is also probable because of his Hamstring Injury.

It looks to me that Westbrook's situation has gotten worse and I think there would be no team in the league right now who will accept Westbrook if in case the Lakers will choose to trade him. I guess it's just too late.
There's a chance that Lakers might get their 5th loss from Timberwolves. I guess that they should figure it out on which part of their losses they have to learn.

Everything, hehehe, and yeah, they could go 0-5 against the Timberwolves.

They are a huge underdog at 3.xx ML. Might be tempting for some bettors.

Looking at the standings, for Utah Jazz, they're always like this during the early games up to the playoffs but can't manage to land in the finals. Hopefully by this season, we may see some teams like them going to the finals.

But it's a different team now, they have almost disbanded the team that always fell short in the playoff. And it seems that it rejuvenated the team itself. But it's too early to say how they will fare in this season. They could pull a surprised and make the playoff.
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October 28, 2022, 06:04:24 AM
We talk about the Lakers far too much on here lol.  I know they've got the second greatest player of all time (Jordan is number for those of you who don't know any better  Cheesy ) and he's quite polarizing, but I for one am excited that there's other teams besides the LA Lakers who are looking exciting this year and have a lot of potential who normally don't year after year (like the Lakers).
It's  because of the drama from last year that has spill over, specially the case of Westbrook, their new coach, and definitely Lebron James. So the spotlight is on their side.

Good game between the Nets and the Mavs, it went into OT, Irving and Durant has a monster game. But Luka takes this game with a triple double performance.


Spillover from the critics and still ongoing because they still performing the same way, new coach can't do anything if the same
performance is what the fans are seeing from the team.

The issue with WB still hyping from the social media outlet, not sure how Lakers management will find the best solution for this
keeping him and keep getting same results from the team will eventually hurt the business.

Moving on with Net vs Mavs, I just notice the defense of Nets. They are really lacking on this part even they've got scoring machines but
without good defense, the chance of winning is slim.
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October 28, 2022, 05:51:26 AM
Current standing of the Los Angeles Lakers is 0-4 which is indeed a very chaotic and frustrating start for the franchise this season, their next game is against the Timberwolves and I bet their standing will turn to 0-5 because AD is still questionable to return in that said game while Westbrook is also probable because of his Hamstring Injury.

It looks to me that Westbrook's situation has gotten worse and I think there would be no team in the league right now who will accept Westbrook if in case the Lakers will choose to trade him. I guess it's just too late.
There's a chance that Lakers might get their 5th loss from Timberwolves. I guess that they should figure it out on which part of their losses they have to learn.

Looking at the standings, for Utah Jazz, they're always like this during the early games up to the playoffs but can't manage to land in the finals. Hopefully by this season, we may see some teams like them going to the finals.
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October 28, 2022, 05:38:40 AM
With or without Russ , Lakers still lost so I don't think the problem is Russ and most likely the entire team has a problem and they don't want to play together anymore. But wait , they are not alone because 76ers are looking like Huston 3 years ago when Harder was trying to win games by himself and he is trying but he is trying alone ... . Anyway, I'm happy with my team Bulls with the W and Bucks gave no chance to Nets...another Lakers and 76ers story is happening there as well. Grin

The Lakers have started this season really badly, I honestly didn't think they would lose so many games. They actually didn't play badly against the Denver Nuggets, but the overall performance of the team wasn't enough to win the game. The Nuggets have an amazing player like Jokic.
The Lakers need new shooters to get out of this situation, with new players to replace Westbrook, the team could get a lot better Smiley

Current standing of the Los Angeles Lakers is 0-4 which is indeed a very chaotic and frustrating start for the franchise this season, their next game is against the Timberwolves and I bet their standing will turn to 0-5 because AD is still questionable to return in that said game while Westbrook is also probable because of his Hamstring Injury.

It looks to me that Westbrook's situation has gotten worse and I think there would be no team in the league right now who will accept Westbrook if in case the Lakers will choose to trade him. I guess it's just too late.
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October 28, 2022, 05:34:34 AM

The Lakers just deflated Westbrooks value lol.
This will get very interesting for the Lakers on how they're going to get rid of Westbrook, because for sure the Lakers are now actively looking for a good trade more than before.

They should have done it before because seeing the result with the Lakers today, makes them think multiple times before securing the deal with the Lakers. It's just really an expected turn of event when the Lakers didn't bother to trade WB before the start of the season when they clearly know he was the reason of their struggle last season. Now that he is up for trade again, I'm sure it will be hard this time cause he is not only unskilled but also bring worst luck to the team.
IIRC, Westbrook is still in the market. It's the Lakers that are having a hard time closing the deal because the offers don't match what they want or the value.
If they will try to force this trade, two teams might be possible.
San Antonio Spurs' salary cap space is still enough to make it happen and I heard they did discuss it but never went to a good ending.

The other team is the Phoenix Suns, there's one player floating there who has not yet played one game. Jae Crowder. Waiting to be traded.
But he is just 9.7m, so the Suns' management will need to sacrifice more or make a three-way team deal.
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