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Quote from: gagux123 on October 30, 2022, 03:46:24 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on October 30, 2022, 12:25:18 AM

Ya, another rough night for Klay Thompson as the Warriors lost to the Charlotte Hornets who didn’t have LaMelo Ball or Terry Rozier (their starting backcourt). I think the Warriors just had a bad three point shooting night. Live by the 3 die by the 3. I’m sure they’ll bounce back.

As for the Hornets, I’ve heard rumors of them looking at a trade with Gordon Hayward and some others for Russell Westbrook and some picks.

To be honest, I believe that sometimes an excellent team like Warriors can have bad days, with a bad performance.

It happens, and it's normal... it doesn't rule out the Warriors' image to be an excellent team and even one of the favorites to be this season's NBA champions.

Yeah, even from the best of them, upsets do happen, maybe it was not meant for them to win against the Hornets. They just have to stomach in that defeat in OT, go to practice and move on to the next game.

I'm not surprised though if the rumors are true that they are going to trade Hayward, the team is already talent laden and it's hard to see where Gordon will fall on the rotation of the team. And I think with Gordon's injury when he was still in Boston, it might have taken some best years from his career and it looks like he become just an average player. So it make sense that his name will be in the trading discussions not just for Russell Westbrook.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 30, 2022, 12:25:18 AM

Ya, another rough night for Klay Thompson as the Warriors lost to the Charlotte Hornets who didn’t have LaMelo Ball or Terry Rozier (their starting backcourt). I think the Warriors just had a bad three point shooting night. Live by the 3 die by the 3. I’m sure they’ll bounce back.

As for the Hornets, I’ve heard rumors of them looking at a trade with Gordon Hayward and some others for Russell Westbrook and some picks.

To be honest, I believe that sometimes an excellent team like Warriors can have bad days, with a bad performance.

It happens, and it's normal... it doesn't rule out the Warriors' image to be an excellent team and even one of the favorites to be this season's NBA champions.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 30, 2022, 12:25:18 AM

Ya, another rough night for Klay Thompson as the Warriors lost to the Charlotte Hornets who didn’t have LaMelo Ball or Terry Rozier (their starting backcourt). I think the Warriors just had a bad three point shooting night. Live by the 3 die by the 3. I’m sure they’ll bounce back.

I am sure they will bounce back.
Klay Thompson, imo, is not that same Klay we have seen before the injury yet. 941 days of rest is not a joke without practice, training, or anything to improve his game. All that nerves may have been on the restoring part.
We haven't seen him scored above 20 points yet but I am glad to see him playing 32 minutes now. That should mean something for him and for their team to build more confidence.

Quote from: OgNasty on October 30, 2022, 12:25:18 AM

As for the Hornets, I’ve heard rumors of them looking at a trade with Gordon Hayward and some others for Russell Westbrook and some picks.

If this happens, Hornets might be the perfect place for WB. They lack leadership there especially when LaMelo is not playing.

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Quote from: stadus on October 29, 2022, 11:35:22 AM

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I think there would be no team in the league right now who will accept Westbrook if in case the Lakers will choose to trade him. I guess it's just too late.

There will always be a team that will sign Russell Westbrook but not the same as what the Lakers offered him.

It's a good catch if teams can get him at a fair price.

During the off-season, there are lots of trade packages offered from other teams that the Lakers received for Westbrook but none of those satisfy them because as reported, part of the Westbrook deal should also include some of the future first-round picks of the Lakers which seems a bad idea to risks with.

Therefore, instead of pushing trading Westbrook, they keep the current roster intact for this season and that's what we are seeing right now. As I said before, trading Westbrook depends on how the team will behave this season. I'm thinking that the decision of trading Westbrook will be finalized after seeing their progress in the mid-half of the season.

He will be traded if there's a good package from other teams who are also interested to get him to without risking the Lakers future draft picks, currently, Westbrook's salary is too high for other teams especially when his performance doesn't synch well with the price of his contract. It might happen this season but the chance is slim and other teams might wait Westbrook until he lands in the free agency.

I also think that it will be the nearest possible scenario for the Lakers here and for Westbrook as well, I don't really think there would be a team in the league now who will get Westbrook in that state. Teams will wait for his contract to finish first and then offer him a much lower contract. Anyway, I guess it's still too soon to conclude that Westbrook will be shooting bricks until the end of this season, there's still a chance.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 30, 2022, 12:27:41 AM

It's amazing how both the Chicago Bulls and 76ers have high energy despite playing back-to-back games.

Key players are Embiid who had his rest and LaVine for the Bulls who also didn't play yesterday. The 76ers stretched the lead to 19 early in the game but the Bulls never gave up and tried to catch up until they had the lead at third and made it a close game until the end.

The 76ers manage a win despite playing in fatigue and on road.
They are changing to being better, other teams should be careful with them as this might be the start of a long streak.

Good for the 76ers, they are improving their win-loss standing. After starting 0-3 this season, they are finally finding their wins. I think they have found what they are missing and finally making the wins they needed. I had high hope for this team since Harden took lesser pay to get better players to join them. That commitment will be wasted if they do not get at least into the finals.

I bet on Chicago Bulls in this match hoping Embiid will sit this one out, but I am wrong.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 29, 2022, 08:29:45 PM

Charlotte vs GSW turns out to be one hell of a game, it went into OT, Charlotte now leading by 3 points. I thought that the Charlotte will take the win the regular time, but GSW is so resilient.

Ya, another rough night for Klay Thompson as the Warriors lost to the Charlotte Hornets who didn’t have LaMelo Ball or Terry Rozier (their starting backcourt). I think the Warriors just had a bad three point shooting night. Live by the 3 die by the 3. I’m sure they’ll bounce back.

That is the bad side of GSW. If they cannot have their threes, they will have a bad night. They have few players who can drive and get points from the paint but most of their plays rotate to their core players hitting the 3s. Sure, they will bounce back from this.

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It's amazing how both the Chicago Bulls and 76ers have high energy despite playing back-to-back games.

Key players are Embiid who had his rest and LaVine for the Bulls who also didn't play yesterday. The 76ers stretched the lead to 19 early in the game but the Bulls never gave up and tried to catch up until they had the lead at third and made it a close game until the end.

The 76ers manage a win despite playing in fatigue and on road.
They are changing to being better, other teams should be careful with them as this might be the start of a long streak.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 29, 2022, 08:29:45 PM

Charlotte vs GSW turns out to be one hell of a game, it went into OT, Charlotte now leading by 3 points. I thought that the Charlotte will take the win the regular time, but GSW is so resilient.

Ya, another rough night for Klay Thompson as the Warriors lost to the Charlotte Hornets who didn’t have LaMelo Ball or Terry Rozier (their starting backcourt). I think the Warriors just had a bad three point shooting night. Live by the 3 die by the 3. I’m sure they’ll bounce back.

As for the Hornets, I’ve heard rumors of them looking at a trade with Gordon Hayward and some others for Russell Westbrook and some picks.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 29, 2022, 03:45:50 PM

It seems like Kyrie Irving has found a new source of drama for himself. Critics have labeled him as a promoter of anti-semitic media after his latest comments in support of a film that has met the same label. He's responded on twitter saying that he respects all religions and that he meant to disrespect, but I'm sure after Kanye the cancel culture vultures are circling. Even the Nets owner Joe Tsai came out and condemned Kyrie's comments. This is probably another example why the Nets didn't want to keep Kyrie on the team longer than they have to. I've never seen a player go out of their way to damage their value like Kyrie before. Always fun to watch what he's got going on.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/kyrie-irving-anti-semitic-label-not-justified-meant-no-disrespect-to-anyone-s-religious-beliefs/ar-AA13wrgK

Although the NBA has released a statement about this case, and that they condemned it, still there's no name on it.

https://twitter.com/NBAPR/status/1586495564400713728

Charlotte vs GSW turns out to be one hell of a game, it went into OT, Charlotte now leading by 3 points. I thought that the Charlotte will take the win the regular time, but GSW is so resilient.

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Here are my picks for today's game I was late for the Sacramento Kings VS Miami Heat and the games for Charlotte Hornets VS Golden State Warriors are also starting as well,

Charlotte Hornets VS Golden State Warriors

The stake odds for this game right now are 2.70 for the Hornets and 1.45 for the Warriors, right now as I am posting this the score is 50 for the Hornets and 40 for the Warriors but I am still positive for the Warriors winning this,

Milwaukee Bucks VS Atlanta Hawks

The stake odds for this game are 1.47 for the Bucks and 2.75 for the Hawks, this could be a close match-up, but for me right now the Bucks are in the tight spot because of the injuries, they got Joe Ingles, and Pat Connaughton, Khris Middleton, and AJ Green while the Hawks got Bogdan Bogdanovic with a knee injury, well despite their many injuries I am still going with the Bucks,

Chicago Bulls VS Philadelphia 76ers

The stake odds for this game are 2.19 for the Bulls and 1.71 for the 76ers right now the Bulls are struggling and because of the latest injuries of Ayo Dosunmu and Andre Drummond they might be in a pinch so my pick will be the 76ers,

Utah Jazz VS Memphis Grizzlies

The stake odds for this game are 2.35 for the Jazz and 1.63 for the Grizzlies, based on the tandem of Desmond Bane and Ja Morant even though Morant has Ilness right now and has a strict time to play I am still going with the Grizzlies,

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Quote from: bitgolden on October 29, 2022, 04:21:44 PM

Quote from: harizen on October 29, 2022, 06:14:41 AM

Honestly, if we will analyze what happened during the off-season when the Los Angeles Lakers are trying to trade Westbrook, there are teams that maybe disregard the value of Westbrook's contract and are even willing to pay him based on what is left on his Lakers contract as long as part of the deal will involve the future 1st round picks of the Lakers. That's how valuable first-round picks that's why they might gamble paying Russ with such an amount as long as these teams will get the rights of the Laker's future 1st round picks.

That's the only thing that upsets me about Lakers bad start, I mean it's fine for everyone else because they play badly and they deserve it, but when we are talking about Lebron, dude is still playing like the best player in a championship level team and still losing because he has absolutely no help. He did managed to bright Cavs to finals even when they sucked, but now even Cavs are better than Lakers.

I feel like he should leave if he could, but financially it's quite near impossible to find a team that could even trade for him, would be not easy to match the salaries. He should definitely leave but it is obvious that he wouldn't be able to even if he wanted to.

If I'm not mistaken, Lebron only signed a 2 year extension with the Lakers and this is the 1st season of his extension.

Therefore, we can conclude that Lebron is not really eyeing to become a Laker for long until his retirement.

If the Lakers won't do anything to surround him with good role players, I doubt Lebron will agree to another contract extension.

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Quote from: bitgolden on October 28, 2022, 02:08:01 PM

How could they consider it a success? It is as failure as it could possibly get if you ask me. Because, they need to tank in order to get good rookies, right now they may look good because of the scores but they are not at all.

Who are they going to win a championship with? Conley? Markkanen? Clarkson? Beasley? Of course not, this team may look decent enough for the time being but they are not, they got lucky a few games but I guarantee you that they won't win 50 games, and probably even fail to get over 40 games. They just had a lucky start to the season and that’s it. They need to tank so that they could get good picks and good players, this current situation is not good at all.

They are in a rebuilding process, any win they can get is a victory. I do not think they have any expectations right now, not to mention getting to the finals. And they do not need to tank as well this year. They got tons of first-round picks from Gobert and Mitchell trades. I think that is enough for them to build on. Ainge is a genius. He helped Celtics to be in their position now and I hope he can do it to the Jazz as well. Winning games even at this level create excitement for fans and that is enough to keep them coming to see their games even when they are rebuilding. Isn't that counted as a success?

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Quote from: freedomgo on October 28, 2022, 05:38:40 AM

I think there would be no team in the league right now who will accept Westbrook if in case the Lakers will choose to trade him. I guess it's just too late.

There will always be a team that will sign Russell Westbrook but not the same as what the Lakers offered him.

Not for long if the media keeps destroying his image. He is still a good basketball player, not at the level he was before the lakers, but he is still good if he is given the right plays and not getting bombarded by negative media all the time. If the Lakers want to trade him, they must make him look good by giving him plays that suited his style. Then other teams will get more interested and give more in exchange for Westbrook.

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Quote from: blockman on October 29, 2022, 04:00:23 AM

It will be on Monday against the Denver Nuggets and this team isn't going to go easy on them as they also have a good run at the first games that they've got unlike the Lakers.

The Nuggets are a pretty strong team, and the Lakers will probably play without Davis again. So it will be quite expected if the Lakers' losing streak increases to 6 games in a row. Honestly, it's a pity that Davis is so prone to injury. He can really be an effective player, but he misses games due to injuries once again, although the regular season has just begun. This looks like an unsolvable problem both for himself and the team.

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They were already pretty good last year, finished 9th and they were just a new team considering it has been like 2 years or 3 years since Lebron left if I am not wrong, so its a whole rebuild project right now for them because after Lebron left they were horrible, and only after a few years they already have a decent team. That Donovan Mitchell move was a beast move, they really got a great player with him, and he is very young as well so the timing fits perfectly too. However, they are not "there" yet, they need to manage to find a way to get one more level higher. If they had one more star player, then they would be going for east title for sure, but right now as it is, they are a clear playoff team, but their second round depends on who they face.

4 years to be exact, if my memory serves me right, and still up to this day they are still picking up the pieces when Lebron left them, they even fire Ty Lue during that era isn't it? So they are still in the rebuilding phase, yes they have a good record last year, they also started very strong only to falter later.

And I would agree that it was great move for them to acquire Donovan Mitchell, Donovan needs a new home and he seems to be settling down already this early or he is such a great player that when surrounded with another good player he clicked immediately.

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Quote from: harizen on October 29, 2022, 06:14:41 AM

Honestly, if we will analyze what happened during the off-season when the Los Angeles Lakers are trying to trade Westbrook, there are teams that maybe disregard the value of Westbrook's contract and are even willing to pay him based on what is left on his Lakers contract as long as part of the deal will involve the future 1st round picks of the Lakers. That's how valuable first-round picks that's why they might gamble paying Russ with such an amount as long as these teams will get the rights of the Laker's future 1st round picks.

That's the only thing that upsets me about Lakers bad start, I mean it's fine for everyone else because they play badly and they deserve it, but when we are talking about Lebron, dude is still playing like the best player in a championship level team and still losing because he has absolutely no help. He did managed to bright Cavs to finals even when they sucked, but now even Cavs are better than Lakers.

I feel like he should leave if he could, but financially it's quite near impossible to find a team that could even trade for him, would be not easy to match the salaries. He should definitely leave but it is obvious that he wouldn't be able to even if he wanted to.

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It seems like Kyrie Irving has found a new source of drama for himself. Critics have labeled him as a promoter of anti-semitic media after his latest comments in support of a film that has met the same label. He's responded on twitter saying that he respects all religions and that he meant to disrespect, but I'm sure after Kanye the cancel culture vultures are circling. Even the Nets owner Joe Tsai came out and condemned Kyrie's comments. This is probably another example why the Nets didn't want to keep Kyrie on the team longer than they have to. I've never seen a player go out of their way to damage their value like Kyrie before. Always fun to watch what he's got going on.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/kyrie-irving-anti-semitic-label-not-justified-meant-no-disrespect-to-anyone-s-religious-beliefs/ar-AA13wrgK

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 29, 2022, 12:26:30 PM

They were already pretty good last year, finished 9th and they were just a new team considering it has been like 2 years or 3 years since Lebron left if I am not wrong, so its a whole rebuild project right now for them because after Lebron left they were horrible, and only after a few years they already have a decent team. That Donovan Mitchell move was a beast move, they really got a great player with him, and he is very young as well so the timing fits perfectly too. However, they are not "there" yet, they need to manage to find a way to get one more level higher. If they had one more star player, then they would be going for east title for sure, but right now as it is, they are a clear playoff team, but their second round depends on who they face.

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Tyrese Maxey really felt the zone. Even the heat checks are sinking in.
9 out of 12 three-point shots, 15/20 field goals, 44 points, his new career high, and possibly one of the best games of his career.
Maybe even the Raptors fans did love this kind of performance. For the 76ers fans, it's a good sight, they know there will be players that will step up their game while Embiid is resting his knee.

Sadly, they will be playing back-to-back with an exhausted body tomorrow but so is their opponent Chicago Bulls.

Yes, congrats to him making a career high, it's good that he was still with the Sixers, he really improved a lot and could be their future.

How about the game of Mitchell and Caris Levert? scoring 40+ points against the Boston Celtics and a win in Overtime? Not sure when was the last duo who score that big in Boston Garden. I thought that the Celtics will win this game as they have taken the majority of the lead in the 4th, but the Cavs handcuffed Jayson Tatum, mostly double teaming him forcing outside pass. Good win by the Cavs.

The Cavs are definitely making some noise out in Cleveland. Mitchell is doing his part and getting them wins, Love looks rejuvenated and ready to make a strong effort out there (I believe he's in a contract year and trying to score a new deal) and the other guys are all coming along. I think they've got the chance to win against anyone every night due to their size and now with Mitchell, scoring capability. I doubt anyone expected them to start off 4-1 though. They're outperforming and for gamblers, that's great to see.

I'm not sure how long they'll be able to keep up this momentum though. I believe they're just catching people off guard because it's a new look team with a lot of talent and size. At some point the league will figure out how to beat them.

True, they were the slight underdog in their game against the Celtics and so I put a bet on them at +5.5 and it's good that they win and it's really impressive on what Mitchell is doing for the Cavs right now as if he got something to proved in this season when he got traded.

And yeah that is the question, too early to rate them this good, but it they can maintain this level in the first half of the season which is very hard to do as teams as going to step up after 10 games or so. So let's see how far the the Cavs can go this season.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on October 28, 2022, 06:28:50 PM

Quote from: harizen on October 28, 2022, 03:16:36 PM

There will always be a team that will sign Russell Westbrook but not the same as what the Lakers offered him.

It's a good catch if teams can get him at a fair price.

During the off-season, there are lots of trade packages offered from other teams that the Lakers received for Westbrook but none of those satisfy them because as reported, part of the Westbrook deal should also include some of the future first-round picks of the Lakers which seems a bad idea to risks with.

Therefore, instead of pushing trading Westbrook, they keep the current roster intact for this season and that's what we are seeing right now. As I said before, trading Westbrook depends on how the team will behave this season. I'm thinking that the decision of trading Westbrook will be finalized after seeing their progress in the mid-half of the season.

You're right. The Lakers' reluctance to include future draft picks in deals with other teams is one of the main reasons why they still haven't been able to get rid of Westbrook.

It's because they don't want to lose their future draft picks. They know that if they include it for a Westbrook trade, they could potentially lost a good picks.

Quote from: dwyane36 on October 28, 2022, 06:28:50 PM

If I'm not mistaken, it was also the reason why the Lakers and Rockets couldn't agree to trade Westbrook for Wall last season.
Honestly, I don't know if the Lakers plan to trade Westbrook before the deadline or not, but I'm more than sure that there aren't too many teams that would be interested in him at the moment.

They just have to stomach everything moving forward. Speaking of the Lakers, Lebron though break Karl Malone's record for more 20 points in a game. And perhaps this could be the bright side on the team. James next target is Kareem's record.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 29, 2022, 11:42:54 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on October 29, 2022, 07:23:49 AM

Tyrese Maxey really felt the zone. Even the heat checks are sinking in.
9 out of 12 three-point shots, 15/20 field goals, 44 points, his new career high, and possibly one of the best games of his career.
Maybe even the Raptors fans did love this kind of performance. For the 76ers fans, it's a good sight, they know there will be players that will step up their game while Embiid is resting his knee.

Sadly, they will be playing back-to-back with an exhausted body tomorrow but so is their opponent Chicago Bulls.

Yes, congrats to him making a career high, it's good that he was still with the Sixers, he really improved a lot and could be their future.

How about the game of Mitchell and Caris Levert? scoring 40+ points against the Boston Celtics and a win in Overtime? Not sure when was the last duo who score that big in Boston Garden. I thought that the Celtics will win this game as they have taken the majority of the lead in the 4th, but the Cavs handcuffed Jayson Tatum, mostly double teaming him forcing outside pass. Good win by the Cavs.

The Cavs are definitely making some noise out in Cleveland. Mitchell is doing his part and getting them wins, Love looks rejuvenated and ready to make a strong effort out there (I believe he's in a contract year and trying to score a new deal) and the other guys are all coming along. I think they've got the chance to win against anyone every night due to their size and now with Mitchell, scoring capability. I doubt anyone expected them to start off 4-1 though. They're outperforming and for gamblers, that's great to see.

I'm not sure how long they'll be able to keep up this momentum though. I believe they're just catching people off guard because it's a new look team with a lot of talent and size. At some point the league will figure out how to beat them.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 29, 2022, 07:23:49 AM

Tyrese Maxey really felt the zone. Even the heat checks are sinking in.
9 out of 12 three-point shots, 15/20 field goals, 44 points, his new career high, and possibly one of the best games of his career.
Maybe even the Raptors fans did love this kind of performance. For the 76ers fans, it's a good sight, they know there will be players that will step up their game while Embiid is resting his knee.

Sadly, they will be playing back-to-back with an exhausted body tomorrow but so is their opponent Chicago Bulls.

Yes, congrats to him making a career high, it's good that he was still with the Sixers, he really improved a lot and could be their future.

How about the game of Mitchell and Caris Levert? scoring 40+ points against the Boston Celtics and a win in Overtime? Not sure when was the last duo who score that big in Boston Garden. I thought that the Celtics will win this game as they have taken the majority of the lead in the 4th, but the Cavs handcuffed Jayson Tatum, mostly double teaming him forcing outside pass. Good win by the Cavs.

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