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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 22, 2019, 03:07:11 AM

Quote from: Ranly123 on October 21, 2019, 08:23:48 AM

Just like you said, it's his first game in a beerman uniform and he did not show his quality. I am not a fan of Tautua and I can see he cannot perform well in his new team because it is packed with with talents.

Scoring 10 point in less than 20 minutes is not bad for a new comer in the SMB team and besides the coaching staff do not expect too much from him as he will serve as a reliever to JMF if the latter is in foul trouble or having an off night.

That's a very bad role for a former number 1 pick, if he will remain in the SMB, he might become a champion but he cannot make his own name or his own legacy.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on October 22, 2019, 02:14:11 AM

But I hope he can do even more than that on his next play times, well let's find out tonight Grin

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It's not tonight, it would be tomorrow bro.

it's fun to watch, C stand vs fajardo or C stand vs Tautua .. either of this match up would surely make this game interesting.
I don't really like northport line up but with C stand now, I think they will improve.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on October 21, 2019, 08:23:48 AM

Just like you said, it's his first game in a beerman uniform and he did not show his quality. I am not a fan of Tautua and I can see he cannot perform well in his new team because it is packed with with talents.

Scoring 10 point in less than 20 minutes is not bad for a new comer in the SMB team and besides the coaching staff do not expect too much from him as he will serve as a reliever to JMF if the latter is in foul trouble or having an off night.

Quote from: NavI_027 on October 22, 2019, 02:14:11 AM

But I hope he can do even more than that on his next play times, well let's find out tonight Grin

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It's not tonight, it would be tomorrow bro.

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Quote from: Golftech on October 21, 2019, 08:12:36 AM

SMB coaching staff always good i finding the right players in the right position, as of now, since JMF still dominated the center spot there's no chance for Tau to get his minutes that much, but seeing him played against the DYIP he's addition is being rotated very well.

Indeed. Though Tautua's stats on his new team SMB didn't reach what I expected, it doesn't mean he is already not worth of SMB's dime. He is helpful actually because he gave plenty of time to Abay to rest and freeze the number of his fouls as long as possible, without him I'm pretty sure that Fajardo fouled out very early on their game against Dyip. But I hope he can do even more than that on his next play times, well let's find out tonight Grin

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Quote from: NavI_027 on October 16, 2019, 08:07:30 PM

Quote from: spadormie on October 16, 2019, 12:47:41 PM

This is why CStand can't show his full potential for him is not given by minutes of playing.

I'm excited to see CStand evolve into a star. SMB is not even using him so many times yet still winning. This is good for Stand to showcase his true talent.

You have a point mate but you can't blame SMB's management why they're not giving The Bulldozer plenty of time inside the hard court because June Mar is can already do the work inside the paint and besides there are faster Forwards than him. But since he was now in Northport, I'm pretty sure he will got more opportunity to play thus greater chances of improving. I just really hope he could establish a good relationship with bolick and the rest of the team because at the end of the day, team chemistry still matters the most

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Almost missed this one.
I know and I also know the reason why SMB is not using The bulldozer for their team's success. It's because they can get a win even though CStand will not play the game. I mean they are being surrounded with a lot of stars to the point that CStand's help is no longer needed.

Anyway, I want to point out why is it PBA does not create many more teams. Many people are stacking in one team and that makes the league so small. This is why many players are being benched even if they're good playing basketball.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on October 21, 2019, 07:10:02 AM

Quote from: Botnake on October 21, 2019, 06:56:35 AM

Are we going to see stand and tautua in their first game with different uniforms here?
I also think we are underestimating too much the Northport, if Stand will play, I'll bet a little on the ML north port.

No, Tautua already made his debut game in SMB last night against Columbian Dyip. Thougts? Hmm, he is ineffective. He sometimes lost in his right position and struggling to get offensive rebounds compared than Abay. Well it was just his first game, there are still plenty of games for him to get back and their fight this upcoming Wednesday is the best time for it

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Just like you said, it's his first game in a beerman uniform and he did not show his quality. I am not a fan of Tautua and I can see he cannot perform well in his new team because it is packed with with talents.

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Quote from: Botnake on October 21, 2019, 07:44:21 AM

Quote from: NavI_027 on October 21, 2019, 07:10:02 AM

Quote from: Botnake on October 21, 2019, 06:56:35 AM

Are we going to see stand and tautua in their first game with different uniforms here?
I also think we are underestimating too much the Northport, if Stand will play, I'll bet a little on the ML north port.

No, Tautua already made his debut game in SMB last night against Columbian Dyip. Thougts? Hmm, he is ineffective. He sometimes lost in his right position and struggling to get offensive rebounds compared than Abay. Well it was just his first game, there are still plenty of games for him to get back and their fight this upcoming Wednesday is the best time for it

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Sorry, I missed that because I did not see the game Embarrassed

Maybe there's a big difference now as Mo is not going to be a starter, right?

Mo was not effective with the TNT that's why he was shifted to the Northport and I think in SMB, he will struggle.
You might also be right as that's just the first game, there's always an adjustment.

Is just the same when TR7 went to SMB, his first few games was struggled until he find his spot and became the finals MVP, SMB coaching staff always good i finding the right players in the right position, as of now, since JMF still dominated the center spot there's no chance for Tau to get his minutes that much, but seeing him played against the DYIP he's addition is being rotated very well.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on October 21, 2019, 07:10:02 AM

Quote from: Botnake on October 21, 2019, 06:56:35 AM

Are we going to see stand and tautua in their first game with different uniforms here?
I also think we are underestimating too much the Northport, if Stand will play, I'll bet a little on the ML north port.

No, Tautua already made his debut game in SMB last night against Columbian Dyip. Thougts? Hmm, he is ineffective. He sometimes lost in his right position and struggling to get offensive rebounds compared than Abay. Well it was just his first game, there are still plenty of games for him to get back and their fight this upcoming Wednesday is the best time for it

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Sorry, I missed that because I did not see the game Embarrassed

Maybe there's a big difference now as Mo is not going to be a starter, right?

Mo was not effective with the TNT that's why he was shifted to the Northport and I think in SMB, he will struggle.
You might also be right as that's just the first game, there's always an adjustment.

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Quote from: Botnake on October 21, 2019, 06:56:35 AM

Are we going to see stand and tautua in their first game with different uniforms here?
I also think we are underestimating too much the Northport, if Stand will play, I'll bet a little on the ML north port.

No, Tautua already made his debut game in SMB last night against Columbian Dyip. Thougts? Hmm, he is ineffective. He sometimes lost in his right position and struggling to get offensive rebounds compared than Abay. Well it was just his first game, there are still plenty of games for him to get back and their fight this upcoming Wednesday is the best time for it

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2019, 06:18:54 AM

Let's move on, recent games have been amazing, but there are more amazing and exciting upcoming games like coming on wednesday which is on first game; Rain Or Shine vs. Blackwater Elite and second game; San Miguel Beermen vs Northport Batang Pier.

ROS vs. BLACKWATER: I'm going with ROS right now, for sure they will come back stronger after their lost on Alaska Aces and Phoenix, they are really eager to win for sure.

ROS is a legit team, they have a better local line up compared to the Blackwater, however, I will skip on this game, both team badly needs a win here.
I think if I have to bet, I will go with the total and will be under.

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And SMB vs Northport; I'm going with SMB, their import import is totally beast!

Are we going to see stand and tautua in their first game with different uniforms here?
I also think we are underestimating too much the Northport, if Stand will play, I'll bet a little on the ML north port.

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Let's move on, recent games have been amazing, but there are more amazing and exciting upcoming games like coming on wednesday which is on first game; Rain Or Shine vs. Blackwater Elite and second game; San Miguel Beermen vs Northport Batang Pier.

ROS vs. BLACKWATER: I'm going with ROS right now, for sure they will come back stronger after their lost on Alaska Aces and Phoenix, they are really eager to win for sure.
And SMB vs Northport; I'm going with SMB, their import import is totally beast!

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Quote from: Vaculin on October 21, 2019, 05:16:13 AM

+10.5 seems to be easy, if we believe they can beat the SMB, might as well consider the moneyline too.
Usually SMB are not a good performer in the regular season if that's what we called it, but in the playoffs, we can always rely on them.

I do think of that one also (ML) but i have a reservation because Wells is one hell of an import and besides SMB which is gunning for that grand slam needed every win that they get to avoid complications in the standing later on just like what happened during the Commissioner's Cup wherein they are in the twice-to-beat disadvantage. So taking a +10.5 is a safe choice for my money.

Quote from: Vaculin on October 21, 2019, 05:16:13 AM

Going forward, by wednesday, the SMB will face the northport, I think this is also an awaited much up between Stand and Fajardo.

Just another game for Fajardo, Cstand can match-up Fajardo in the early minutes but i doubt if he can sustain that through the fourth quarter where JMF15 usually takes over in the game. The only player in which Fajardo have a hard time offensively is Greg Slaughter.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 21, 2019, 05:12:35 AM

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Dyip vs Beermen is always a competitive game and in fact the Dyip had the edge on their head to head match-up.

can you point out exactly which area you are referring that you said Dyip had the edge?
IMO, SMB is a powerhouse team and any position they are employing a competitive players and that's the they are the number 1 team although not in the ranking now.

Columbian Dyip is the "Kontra-pilo" of SMB though they are having a hard time reaching the playoff but they always beat SMB. If i am right, on the last 4 games that they met, 3-1 is the standing in favor of the Columbian Dyip that's why i bet for Columbian but with the +10.5 handicap yesterday and somehow my gut feeling was correct.

It's only for a false hope that the beermen are letting Columbian dyip win most of their matches. What I mean to say is they are not giving their a-games when they play with the dyip. It's unusual to see that the beermen are not as competitive as they are when they face this team.

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Quote from: Finestream on October 21, 2019, 04:41:12 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on October 21, 2019, 03:30:25 AM

Dyip vs Beermen is always a competitive game and in fact the Dyip had the edge on their head to head match-up.

can you point out exactly which area you are referring that you said Dyip had the edge?
IMO, SMB is a powerhouse team and any position they are employing a competitive players and that's the they are the number 1 team although not in the ranking now.

Columbian Dyip is the "Kontra-pilo" of SMB though they are having a hard time reaching the playoff but they always beat SMB. If i am right, on the last 4 games that they met, 3-1 is the standing in favor of the Columbian Dyip that's why i bet for Columbian but with the +10.5 handicap yesterday and somehow my gut feeling was correct.

+10.5 seems to be easy, if we believe they can beat the SMB, might as well consider the moneyline too.
Usually SMB are not a good performer in the regular season if that's what we called it, but in the playoffs, we can always rely on them.

Going forward, by wednesday, the SMB will face the northport, I think this is also an awaited much up between Stand and Fajardo.

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Quote from: Finestream on October 21, 2019, 04:41:12 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on October 21, 2019, 03:30:25 AM

Dyip vs Beermen is always a competitive game and in fact the Dyip had the edge on their head to head match-up.

can you point out exactly which area you are referring that you said Dyip had the edge?
IMO, SMB is a powerhouse team and any position they are employing a competitive players and that's the they are the number 1 team although not in the ranking now.

Columbian Dyip is the "Kontra-pilo" of SMB though they are having a hard time reaching the playoff but they always beat SMB. If i am right, on the last 4 games that they met, 3-1 is the standing in favor of the Columbian Dyip that's why i bet for Columbian but with the +10.5 handicap yesterday and somehow my gut feeling was correct.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 21, 2019, 03:30:25 AM

Dyip vs Beermen is always a competitive game and in fact the Dyip had the edge on their head to head match-up.

can you point out exactly which area you are referring that you said Dyip had the edge?
IMO, SMB is a powerhouse team and any position they are employing a competitive players and that's the they are the number 1 team although not in the ranking now.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 21, 2019, 01:39:48 AM

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This game yesterday was really awful, since I watched this from 1st half until end of the 4th quarter. COLUMBIAN has the team work, especially the local players, they are not totally relying on their import, unlike on San Miguel Beermen.
For me, they lost the momentum on last quarter especially when J. Corpuz got fragrant foul and out for 3minutes (when 3 minutes left on the 4th quarter) after that, multiple turnovers and mistake made by the COLUMBIAN Dyip.

They can't cope up with the Beermen the whole game. Yes they dominated the majority of the game but their import is tired already defending JMF and fighting in the shaded area. One more is Wells took the fourth quarter and the Columbian can't guard him because of fatigue factor too. The Flagrant Foul committed by Corpuz is one of the reasons too why they lost but the main reason is the fatigue and the turnovers that made them lose.

That's the beauty of having Fajardo in the team. Dyip could could not afford to sit Alston for a breather as Fajardo will overwhelm Dyip's front line if their import is not inside. You are right, the fatigue factor was really a big factor why Dyip lost that game. Dyip vs Beermen is always a competitive game and in fact the Dyip had the edge on their head to head match-up.

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Quote from: Botnake on October 21, 2019, 02:45:39 AM

Great game by the SMB, whenever they are down, if you are a bettor, you should bet them through live betting as that means opportunity.

Not all the time, sometimes we also have to be very careful in betting live because sometimes a line could a trap and we might loss easily as we thought this is SMB and they will come back, actually its a case to case basis, you just have to analyze carefully.

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Quote from: Golftech on October 21, 2019, 02:00:15 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 21, 2019, 01:39:48 AM

Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 20, 2019, 09:29:09 PM

This game yesterday was really awful, since I watched this from 1st half until end of the 4th quarter. COLUMBIAN has the team work, especially the local players, they are not totally relying on their import, unlike on San Miguel Beermen.
For me, they lost the momentum on last quarter especially when J. Corpuz got fragrant foul and out for 3minutes (when 3 minutes left on the 4th quarter) after that, multiple turnovers and mistake made by the COLUMBIAN Dyip.

They can't cope up with the Beermen the whole game. Yes they dominated the majority of the game but their import is tired already defending JMF and fighting in the shaded area. One more is Wells took the fourth quarter and the Columbian can't guard him because of fatigue factor too. The Flagrant Foul committed by Corpuz is one of the reasons too why they lost but the main reason is the fatigue and the turnovers that made them lose.

SMB just allow them to dominate but in the final quarter the team works really play the most, SMB rotations kills every team inside this league as whoever who play inside can contribute not only for scoring but also for giving spaces for each players.

TR7 and Wells coming up in the 2nd half and allow their team mates to rest for a while.

That's the brand of SMB, they have the experience and they don't just easily give up.

Despite of this loss by the COLUMBIAN Dyip, we still see some improvement by the team because they won in the first 3 quarters but they showed their lack of experience in the last quarter. Great game by the SMB, whenever they are down, if you are a bettor, you should bet them through live betting as that means opportunity.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 21, 2019, 01:39:48 AM

Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 20, 2019, 09:29:09 PM

This game yesterday was really awful, since I watched this from 1st half until end of the 4th quarter. COLUMBIAN has the team work, especially the local players, they are not totally relying on their import, unlike on San Miguel Beermen.
For me, they lost the momentum on last quarter especially when J. Corpuz got fragrant foul and out for 3minutes (when 3 minutes left on the 4th quarter) after that, multiple turnovers and mistake made by the COLUMBIAN Dyip.

They can't cope up with the Beermen the whole game. Yes they dominated the majority of the game but their import is tired already defending JMF and fighting in the shaded area. One more is Wells took the fourth quarter and the Columbian can't guard him because of fatigue factor too. The Flagrant Foul committed by Corpuz is one of the reasons too why they lost but the main reason is the fatigue and the turnovers that made them lose.

SMB just allow them to dominate but in the final quarter the team works really play the most, SMB rotations kills every team inside this league as whoever who play inside can contribute not only for scoring but also for giving spaces for each players.

TR7 and Wells coming up in the 2nd half and allow their team mates to rest for a while.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 20, 2019, 09:29:09 PM

This game yesterday was really awful, since I watched this from 1st half until end of the 4th quarter. COLUMBIAN has the team work, especially the local players, they are not totally relying on their import, unlike on San Miguel Beermen.
For me, they lost the momentum on last quarter especially when J. Corpuz got fragrant foul and out for 3minutes (when 3 minutes left on the 4th quarter) after that, multiple turnovers and mistake made by the COLUMBIAN Dyip.

They can't cope up with the Beermen the whole game. Yes they dominated the majority of the game but their import is tired already defending JMF and fighting in the shaded area. One more is Wells took the fourth quarter and the Columbian can't guard him because of fatigue factor too. The Flagrant Foul committed by Corpuz is one of the reasons too why they lost but the main reason is the fatigue and the turnovers that made them lose.

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