2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 720.

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Quote from: DarkDays on August 06, 2019, 06:06:17 AM

To be honest, this is the first time I saw any PBA match, albeit on Youtube, I was surprised at the number of people that actually turned up for a BB game. I didn't think thet Pinoys, out of all the SEA nations would be so enthusiastic about BB. Even the players looked tiny when compared with NBA players.

I guess there are microcosms within all communities though, especially in large ones.

ATleast you browsed internet just to check how Basketball goes in the Philippines and it’s a pleasure to us Pinoys,and about the height ofcourse we are Asian and born smaller but we compete with the tallest players around the world.and to be precise we beat many of them (ofcourse with imports because Pinot are very Tiny as what you called)

Maybe you may be part of the bettings happening here since this is the championship.

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Quote from: DarkDays on August 06, 2019, 06:06:17 AM

To be honest, this is the first time I saw any PBA match, albeit on Youtube, I was surprised at the number of people that actually turned up for a BB game. I didn't think thet Pinoys, out of all the SEA nations would be so enthusiastic about BB. Even the players looked tiny when compared with NBA players.

I guess there are microcosms within all communities though, especially in large ones.

Basketball is very popular in the Philippines, I think it's the most popular sports in the country.
PBA is the local version of NBA but with lower height average, most of the taller players in the PBA, are Fil-Am o Fil + other genes.

In international competition, the Philippines are also improving but not a good contender like the US or other popular countries.
Basketball is fun but I don't know why they are heavily invested in this kind of sports when their height are not too competitive in the international competition.

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To be honest, this is the first time I saw any PBA match, albeit on Youtube, I was surprised at the number of people that actually turned up for a BB game. I didn't think thet Pinoys, out of all the SEA nations would be so enthusiastic about BB. Even the players looked tiny when compared with NBA players.

I guess there are microcosms within all communities though, especially in large ones.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 05, 2019, 06:05:38 PM

Quote from: Johnzky on August 05, 2019, 02:42:40 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on August 04, 2019, 04:12:09 PM

TNT drew the first blood. 109-96

TNT import Terrence Jones producing 41 big points and 12 rebounds. He always breaks SMB's defense even how strong it is.

And another one that kills them is the outside shooting of TNT. I know SMB will do changes next game but still... TNT!

My beermen is in bad shape if this kind of game continues to happen.the shooting from outside of tnt is very consistent that the San Miguel men cannot defend

But this is too early to predict since there are 6 games to come(hopefully can reach that final game 7)

Is there some of you us already put some bets for their team?or are you betting per Game and not for the whole Finals?

I saw someone’s offering but maybe I will consider a per Game bet than the final result

SMB is not in bad shape. TNT's import Jones is just unstoppable.

Your SMB did their best to stop him but as I said, Jones is not only the problem that SMB faces.

Let's see how Austria will setup a plan to stopped Jones while not leaving the TNT's outside shooters open.

Alaska and Ginebra both have won a piece against TNT, I guess the SMB coaching staff has to review that on how those teams were able to execute to beat the TNT. Jones is a big problem, and in game 1, his 3 point shooting is also good because he was so confident that his teammates are shooting well, SMB with 2 days off needs to put more time to analyze game 1 loss as well, if they can solve the puzzle, maybe they'll win game 2.

In game 1, Jones scored 41 points, they need to limit that to at least 20 and be more physical in game 2.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 05, 2019, 06:05:38 PM

Let's see how Austria will setup a plan to stopped Jones while not leaving the TNT's outside shooters open.

The SMB Beermen will have to pick their poison as they say. They can't contain Jones while not leaving an outside shooter open. For me, i would rather let Jones scores and not involving his teammates and tire him out. Even if Jones will score 50, it is not an assurance that they would win the game. Bring the physicality of the PBA to Jones to frustrate him so he could not focus on the game but also the Beermen offensive guys should also step up, they should pound the ball down low where they have the advantage.

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Quote from: Johnzky on August 05, 2019, 02:42:40 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on August 04, 2019, 04:12:09 PM

TNT drew the first blood. 109-96

TNT import Terrence Jones producing 41 big points and 12 rebounds. He always breaks SMB's defense even how strong it is.

And another one that kills them is the outside shooting of TNT. I know SMB will do changes next game but still... TNT!

My beermen is in bad shape if this kind of game continues to happen.the shooting from outside of tnt is very consistent that the San Miguel men cannot defend

But this is too early to predict since there are 6 games to come(hopefully can reach that final game 7)

Is there some of you us already put some bets for their team?or are you betting per Game and not for the whole Finals?

I saw someone’s offering but maybe I will consider a per Game bet than the final result

SMB is not in bad shape. TNT's import Jones is just unstoppable.

Your SMB did their best to stop him but as I said, Jones is not only the problem that SMB faces.

Let's see how Austria will setup a plan to stopped Jones while not leaving the TNT's outside shooters open.

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Quote from: stadus on August 05, 2019, 05:13:42 PM

I can say +1 for SMB is good for SMB fanatics but I have a little doubt on it after seeing how TNT played in game 1.

Don't give them an idea lol. Just Kidding.

I've just realized now that it's been quite a long resting period coming from Game 1 to 2. I thought Game 2 will be tip-off today (PH Time, Tuesday). I see it's tomorrow, Wednesday.

I will now change the deadline of my proposed deal tomorrow, August 6; 11:59 pm, forum time (August 7; 7:59 am; PH time).

Honestly, it's also a risky part on me to give a +1 game to a previous conference Champion SMB. And besides, I can earn more if I will place another bet on a sportsbook. SMB is strong and much more of a contender compared to TNT as a whole. Only because of TNT's import performance that changed the game style of TNT. He really does fit with Katropa's system.

But if it's an All-Filipino Conference, I will not put a bet on TNT but instead on SMB. No one from TNT can completely stop the raging JuneMar Fajardo if it's on All-Filipino unless doing a double or triple-team at him at the paint.

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Quote from: harizen on August 05, 2019, 03:31:51 PM

Quote from: Johnzky on August 05, 2019, 02:42:40 PM

Is there some of you us already put some bets for their team?or are you betting per Game and not for the whole Finals?

I saw someone’s offering but maybe I will consider a per Game bet than the final result

Already mentioned here that as much as possible I'm avoiding a per game Moneyline betting on this series. Maybe will consider starting from Game 5 above.

Aside from the usual testing strategies at Game 1 and 2, we can't still avoid the possibility of forcing an extension of the series if you got what I mean.

You bet on TNT, you can't get good odds per game because your TNT will always be favorites, game 1 started with -5.5 for TNT, and I think game 2 would still be the same or higher. I can say +1 for SMB is good for SMB fanatics but I have a little doubt on it after seeing how TNT played in game 1.

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Quote from: Johnzky on August 05, 2019, 02:42:40 PM

Is there some of you us already put some bets for their team?or are you betting per Game and not for the whole Finals?

I saw someone’s offering but maybe I will consider a per Game bet than the final result

Already mentioned here that as much as possible I'm avoiding a per game Moneyline betting on this series. Maybe will consider starting from Game 5 above.

Aside from the usual testing strategies at Game 1 and 2, we can't still avoid the possibility of forcing an extension of the series if you got what I mean.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 04, 2019, 04:12:09 PM

TNT drew the first blood. 109-96

TNT import Terrence Jones producing 41 big points and 12 rebounds. He always breaks SMB's defense even how strong it is.

And another one that kills them is the outside shooting of TNT. I know SMB will do changes next game but still... TNT!

My beermen is in bad shape if this kind of game continues to happen.the shooting from outside of tnt is very consistent that the San Miguel men cannot defend

But this is too early to predict since there are 6 games to come(hopefully can reach that final game 7)

Is there some of you us already put some bets for their team?or are you betting per Game and not for the whole Finals?

I saw someone’s offering but maybe I will consider a per Game bet than the final result

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Quote from: spadormie on August 05, 2019, 11:52:43 AM

I watched the game between these teams and I saw a back and forth action. It's really fun to watch. I want to give credit to Jones who didn't let his emotion drive himself in the game. Kudos to him. Imagine even the bench of SMB are trashtalking him to complain to the refs.

He have a much higher mental skills than the SMB squad he knows that the opponents is really trying to damage his playing abilities by trash talking and trying to bring him to emotional game play, but kudos also to his team mates who's keeps behind him and not to allow him to carry everything but to help out whenever he needs them to step forward, game 2 would be and interesting game again it's another test for Jones and the rest of TNT.

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I watched the game between these teams and I saw a back and forth action. It's really fun to watch. I want to give credit to Jones who didn't let his emotion drive himself in the game. Kudos to him. Imagine even the bench of SMB are trashtalking him to complain to the refs.

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No one dealt on my offered bet. BTC0.005 - BTC0.01 for TNT.

Since TNT already got the lead, I will offer +1 for SMB this series. They just need to win 3 games and you win.

Valid only today (until 11:59pm Forum time). I won't accept any deal after that. First come first serve or thinking risking up to 5 bettors. Whew.

Outside and perimeter shooting of TNT also destroys SMB's defense. The same way they did against Alaska on Quarterfinals.

The system is; Jones will penetrate the mid, 1 defender = go for the bucket, 2 defenders = either push for a bucket or find open teammates, 3 defenders = will leave their outside shooters uncontested. Jones also has the ability to fake pass that's why defender is confused on which he will pass the ball.

The only way SMB can slowdown TNT's offense are: 1) stop Jones at any cost 2) limit TNT's outside shooting.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 03, 2019, 01:06:06 PM

SMB is always on the finals (or closed) on the past several Cups/Conference that's why only a few understand today that TNT is capable of beating SMB.

But TNT is the strongest contender SMB can have this season,and I know that they can beat the beer men in finals..it’s not easy to put down Ginebra San Miguel but they did,and now facing the toughest enemy is their final destination

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TNT is underrated prior to Commissioner's Cup opening but able to clinch the top spot on eliminations and shows surprising firepower that put them now into Finals. This will be a closed match as we all know that SMB is a complete team starting from their main roster up to their bench squad.

TNT on 6.

Agreed mate actually the best are rolling now in office for the championship,I’ll be putting 50$ for the championship and 10$ each every game for TNT 😅

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Quote from: mirakal on August 05, 2019, 05:22:49 AM

Quote from: DarkStar_ on August 03, 2019, 11:00:25 AM

Will offer if anyone is interested:
@ 1.85 on TNT winning the series
@ 1.85 on San Miguel Beermen winning the series

Max bet 0.01BTC at a time, odds subject to change. Can take an IOU if you have some reputation Cheesy

(hopefully I priced this correctly)

Unfortunately, I miss this one. If this is still up with the same odds for TNT, I'm going to put my bet. Grin

~~But if not, just never mind this.~~ or maybe we can wait until the series is tied. Then back at this odds.

Not valid any more since TNT is leading 1-0 now Wink

I will offer it again if it's tied though (and maybe figure out modified odds now that TNT is up 1-0)

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on August 03, 2019, 11:00:25 AM

Will offer if anyone is interested:
@ 1.85 on TNT winning the series
@ 1.85 on San Miguel Beermen winning the series

Max bet 0.01BTC at a time, odds subject to change. Can take an IOU if you have some reputation Cheesy

(hopefully I priced this correctly)

Unfortunately, I miss this one. If this is still up with the same odds for TNT, I'm going to put my bet. Grin

~~But if not, just never mind this.~~ or maybe we can wait until the series is tied. Then back at this odds.

Thread title update, let's enjoy the Finals series, hopefully this will be a long series.

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Quote from: stadus on August 04, 2019, 10:03:13 PM

Quote from: GreatArkansas on August 04, 2019, 07:41:01 PM

What I also observed on Game 1, June Mar Fajardo didn't play too much, or maybe they are just doing the first experiment on game 1 before they will come back? Since SMB is a very well known come-back team in PBA history. Let's wait for the Game 2 then.

He didn't play too much because TNT is playing a fast pace game, they can't win with Fajardo as the center, they need a faster center that can defend Jones, but unfortunately, there's no one from their team.

Terrence Jones made a big difference between this two teams, SMB needs to work with their defense as this import can fully dominates the game whoever guarding him, he's unstoppable indeed, the level of his skills showed higher than any players around him if SMB wanted to stay from this series the locals needs to step up and bring the game to their control they need to make a good defensive and offensive adjustments,.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 05, 2019, 04:12:21 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 05, 2019, 03:02:35 AM

What a game 1 beat down. SMB started really well which is unusual because they are known to start slow. I don't know if it's just me but they got lazy in defense and in controlling the board. Well done to TNT.

They will adjust and improve in game 2, I don't see a blow out win again by TNT in case they can still win game 2 to take the series to 2-0.
SMB is a good team but Terrence Jones is a super Import with a real NBA caliber, they should focus on stopping him or minimize his contribution at least.

Betting on SMB in game 2 and maybe double in game 3 if they loss, this is one of the strategy I'm considering of using, if we want to parlay, this is the best time to do it, SMB would not be sweep in this series, it's too much, they have the pride and they'll play harder.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 05, 2019, 03:02:35 AM

What a game 1 beat down. SMB started really well which is unusual because they are known to start slow. I don't know if it's just me but they got lazy in defense and in controlling the board. Well done to TNT.

They will adjust and improve in game 2, I don't see a blow out win again by TNT in case they can still win game 2 to take the series to 2-0.
SMB is a good team but Terrence Jones is a super Import with a real NBA caliber, they should focus on stopping him or minimize his contribution at least.

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Quote from: zhea on August 05, 2019, 03:28:54 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 05, 2019, 03:02:35 AM

What a game 1 beat down. SMB started really well which is unusual because they are known to start slow. I don't know if it's just me but they got lazy in defense and in controlling the board. Well done to TNT.

I don't think that they got lazy on the defensive end, it's just that the Katropa's design play click, those kick out pass for a triple and the two man game between Jones and Rosario really did damage on the SMB. If half of those 3's did not go in, SMB would still be in the game but unfortunately the TNT was raining 3's on them. Just as i have said earlier that game 2 would be physical to distract the focal point of the TNT's offense which is Jones.

Well if you base it on previous finals performances, one can be sure that SMB will bounce back. I agree that controlling jones would be essential for the beermen to win but their locals also must need to step up. So far, TnT's locals are playing exceptionallu well even before the finals started. I still think smb has the advantage though but that depends on whether junemar and company will step up to match their tnt counterparts.

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