2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 86.

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Quote from: 3meek on June 22, 2022, 02:53:16 AM

Quote from: vennali on June 21, 2022, 09:50:58 PM

According to the bookies(Bet365). Brazil seems to be the fav to win the world cup and surprisingly, England are 2nd most likely to win the cup. France being 3rd most likely while Spain and Argentina join 4th. Who are your favs?

I haven't figured out who my favs are but, I certainly dont believe England have a fair chance to win Cheesy

. They somehow always find a way to disappoint.

England have a young team that performed very well at the European Cup... Although they have a shitty style of play now, even worse than before, but they have a great bus that few can beat... That's probably why bookmakers make them the favourites after Brazil, although I have questions about that list too...

Honestly, I don't expect too much from England in the 2022 world cup, indeed we don't doubt the quality of the young players that England currently has, but it seems they are not able to show a good performance like what happened in the UEFA Nations League match, indeed the UEFA Nations league is not a big competition but at least the competition can be a benchmark for us to see how ready the current national team is to face the world cup later, and I think the minor results that have been obtained by England so far in the UEFA Nations League show that England has not have the readiness to be able to win the 2022 world cup later.

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Quote from: 3meek on June 22, 2022, 02:53:16 AM

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According to the bookies(Bet365). Brazil seems to be the fav to win the world cup and surprisingly, England are 2nd most likely to win the cup. France being 3rd most likely while Spain and Argentina join 4th. Who are your favs?

I haven't figured out who my favs are but, I certainly dont believe England have a fair chance to win Cheesy

. They somehow always find a way to disappoint.

England have a young team that performed very well at the European Cup... Although they have a shitty style of play now, even worse than before, but they have a great bus that few can beat... That's probably why bookmakers make them the favourites after Brazil, although I have questions about that list too...

the bookies have never been wrong in placing England as one of the strongest candidates to win the world cup this season, judging from the previous year where they looked stunning in the European cup event until they were able to penetrate the final round before finally being defeated by Italy through a penalty shoot-out, England has material very talented players coupled with a young age at least they can become a superior team with Brazil, Argentina and France in undergoing the 4th annual grand competition which will be held in November-December.

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If you look at the results of the matches in the league of nations I still feel that they are still not stable.
In terms of players, indeed they are quite strong in terms of tactics. Hansi Flick is also quite good but until now they are still not stable because their chemistry is quite lacking in my opinion.
although indeed in the last match they were quite good against Italy a few days ago but I still don't see anything special in them.

I also think that for now there is nothing so special about the German game, maybe the lack of cohesiveness of the players to get chemistry is the reason.
in the World Cup, almost all teams played hard to make their country proud to make it difficult to predict, but of the many participants in the Qatar world cup this year, I think Argentina has a squad that plays better than other teams.

But maybe in this case they don't play it right because it will be very lacking if they rely on the league of nations which is considered not very important for some countries.
In this case, they may hide their trump card so that the opponent does not know.
Btw for the world cup i'm actually more interested in seeing brazil now considering they performed quite well during the qualifiers.

It's true what you said, some countries may still keep their secret weapons for the finals of this World Cup. I think they will present a surprise later, because what I have seen so far is that there is no country with high determination. Almost all of those who qualify for the finals I can say are almost evenly matched in terms of strength.

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Quote from: junmisakiro on June 22, 2022, 03:20:01 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 22, 2022, 03:08:53 AM

If you look at the results of the matches in the league of nations I still feel that they are still not stable.
In terms of players, indeed they are quite strong in terms of tactics. Hansi Flick is also quite good but until now they are still not stable because their chemistry is quite lacking in my opinion.
although indeed in the last match they were quite good against Italy a few days ago but I still don't see anything special in them.

I also think that for now there is nothing so special about the German game, maybe the lack of cohesiveness of the players to get chemistry is the reason.
in the World Cup, almost all teams played hard to make their country proud to make it difficult to predict, but of the many participants in the Qatar world cup this year, I think Argentina has a squad that plays better than other teams.

But maybe in this case they don't play it right because it will be very lacking if they rely on the league of nations which is considered not very important for some countries.
In this case, they may hide their trump card so that the opponent does not know.
Btw for the world cup i'm actually more interested in seeing brazil now considering they performed quite well during the qualifiers.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on June 22, 2022, 03:52:27 AM

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It's too early to predict about the World Cup. But we know the players in each squad. We know how they perform in the league. So now we can guess which team will play better in the World Cup. However, it is not always the case that the team will play well if there are more star players in the squad. Even though they have a lot of players in the France squad, their performance is poor. However, considering the capacity of the squad, France, Germany, Brazil and Argentina will be ahead.

I tip the Argentines and France for finals, Germany is a good team but I don't see them making it to the final, so I see them in their usual 3rd position.
Argentina because they've got good team to the job and having won the Copa America last time I think in my opinion, they have what it takes for a team to be the world Champion, Coupled with their experiences in playing up to various world cup finals is something you have to take into account.
France got quality players but I don't see them taking it back to back.

Argentina are determined to get it, very hungry to take hold of the Fifa World Cup, Lionel Messi wins that and he'll be the greatest player in history of football. I love their understanding, and also they had support from a big Crypto firm supporting and backing them ahead of the Fifa World Cup Competition to be held November/ December. Two set of players I don't underrate are both Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo.
They can do the unexpected, Ronaldo's mentally sets him asides to win big game's, and Messi is a Demi -god.

Brazilians should also be kept at heart, they have the highest and they can still do it, seen a video of Ronaldinho nurturing Vini Junior, should be the next big Brazilian talent. As for an African Country ? I'll stand with Senegal National team! The Afcon Champions.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 22, 2022, 12:54:44 AM

It's too early to predict about the World Cup. But we know the players in each squad. We know how they perform in the league. So now we can guess which team will play better in the World Cup. However, it is not always the case that the team will play well if there are more star players in the squad. Even though they have a lot of players in the France squad, their performance is poor. However, considering the capacity of the squad, France, Germany, Brazil and Argentina will be ahead.

I tip the Argentines and France for finals, Germany is a good team but I don't see them making it to the final, so I see them in their usual 3rd position.
Argentina because they've got good team to the job and having won the Copa America last time I think in my opinion, they have what it takes for a team to be the world Champion, Coupled with their experiences in playing up to various world cup finals is something you have to take into account.
France got quality players but I don't see them taking it back to back.

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I don't know how bookie determined the odds for each teams because France as the previous champion should be first favourite but they have high odds than England or Brazil

You need to look based on their performance in this year, France right now at position #4 on UEFA Nations League A, however I have no idea how can England become favorite number 2 since they do have bad performance like France.

IMO a good club need to have better both offensive and defensive players, because the favorited clubs are mostly have good offense but weak defense e.g. France, England, Argentina. As we know both Benzema and Mbappe as the best center forward in different club didn't work if they placed in the same club.

I'd say either Brazil, Spain and German will win this year FIFA World Cup.

I think that the results of France or England in this year's League of Nations are not too relevant and an objective indicator of the strength and quality of these teams.
The League of Nations is an unimportant competition, something between friendly and unofficial matches, and for the strongest national teams this competition mainly serves as a preparation for world or European championships.
So I wouldn’t worry too much about the poor results of France and England, and I think both national teams along with Brazil, Spain and Argentina are still favorites for the world title.

About the issue of odds or the favorite team for me is not too important, because even if they are favorites you will have your own choice in betting. So even if the team that should be the first favorite turns out to be at the bottom, then at least you will get better odds, right. Also, the team's performance from time to time will certainly change and this is the factor that makes the favorites always change, for example in this year's championship league, where Madrid are not favorites but they can win the title. Therefore, the team that is the defending champion will not always be the favourite, there are many factors in the related assessment of odds and which team will be the favourite.

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Quote from: BALIK on June 21, 2022, 04:22:36 AM

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Yes, Germany is the one who remembers they got knocked out in the very first round and I remember another theory coming into play that if your group stage is way too easy, then you will suffer in the KO rounds because you'll be too overconfident and too complacent, whereas on the other hand, play tough groups and you come out ready to battle in the KO rounds.

IIRC this is how recent tournaments played even in African Cup of Nations. Time to bet against easy group winners!

No team in the German group is weak. Spain's squad may have fewer experienced players. But there are lots of talented players. I can't call the Japan team weak. A few days ago, Japan had won 4-1 against teams like Paraguay and Ghana. The Costa Rica team is a bit weak though. But sometimes this team surprises everyone. So it will not be easy for Germany and Spain to be at the top of the group.

Sir, you have misread my post. Reference when I said Germany remembers what happened and reference that I'm talking about easy groups in general, not Germany in this competition.

Speaking about easy groups, Nations League showed us that Hungary had the easiest group in the whole competition so far, beating England (home and way!!) and even drew Germany lol.

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Quote from: Despairo on June 22, 2022, 02:42:00 AM

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I don't know how bookie determined the odds for each teams because France as the previous champion should be first favourite but they have high odds than England or Brazil

You need to look based on their performance in this year, France right now at position #4 on UEFA Nations League A, however I have no idea how can England become favorite number 2 since they do have bad performance like France.

IMO a good club need to have better both offensive and defensive players, because the favorited clubs are mostly have good offense but weak defense e.g. France, England, Argentina. As we know both Benzema and Mbappe as the best center forward in different club didn't work if they placed in the same club.

I'd say either Brazil, Spain and German will win this year FIFA World Cup.

I think that the results of France or England in this year's League of Nations are not too relevant and an objective indicator of the strength and quality of these teams.
The League of Nations is an unimportant competition, something between friendly and unofficial matches, and for the strongest national teams this competition mainly serves as a preparation for world or European championships.
So I wouldn’t worry too much about the poor results of France and England, and I think both national teams along with Brazil, Spain and Argentina are still favorites for the world title.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 22, 2022, 03:08:53 AM

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But finally I can say that the Germans are very strong when it comes to playing football, they are people who have an exquisite technique in football, I think that this World Cup Germany can become the protagonist, and they can lead the way as they have always done I would like to see how Portugal will perform, since it cost them a little more to qualify, it is a pity not to see Sweden with Ibrahimovic.

The German team is strong. Their match strategy is good. At the same time there is no shortage of talented players on the team. However, I would say that their title win will largely depend on the performance of Werner and Muller. If these two players play well, Germany's chances of winning the title will increase. The teams from Brazil and Argentina are also very strong. These two teams are also enough favorites to become world champions.

If you look at the results of the matches in the league of nations I still feel that they are still not stable.
In terms of players, indeed they are quite strong in terms of tactics. Hansi Flick is also quite good but until now they are still not stable because their chemistry is quite lacking in my opinion.
although indeed in the last match they were quite good against Italy a few days ago but I still don't see anything special in them.

I also think that for now there is nothing so special about the German game, maybe the lack of cohesiveness of the players to get chemistry is the reason.
in the World Cup, almost all teams played hard to make their country proud to make it difficult to predict, but of the many participants in the Qatar world cup this year, I think Argentina has a squad that plays better than other teams.

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Quote from: BALIK on June 22, 2022, 01:56:26 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 22, 2022, 12:54:44 AM

But finally I can say that the Germans are very strong when it comes to playing football, they are people who have an exquisite technique in football, I think that this World Cup Germany can become the protagonist, and they can lead the way as they have always done I would like to see how Portugal will perform, since it cost them a little more to qualify, it is a pity not to see Sweden with Ibrahimovic.

The German team is strong. Their match strategy is good. At the same time there is no shortage of talented players on the team. However, I would say that their title win will largely depend on the performance of Werner and Muller. If these two players play well, Germany's chances of winning the title will increase. The teams from Brazil and Argentina are also very strong. These two teams are also enough favorites to become world champions.

If you look at the results of the matches in the league of nations I still feel that they are still not stable.
In terms of players, indeed they are quite strong in terms of tactics. Hansi Flick is also quite good but until now they are still not stable because their chemistry is quite lacking in my opinion.
although indeed in the last match they were quite good against Italy a few days ago but I still don't see anything special in them.

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Quote from: vennali on June 21, 2022, 09:50:58 PM

According to the bookies(Bet365). Brazil seems to be the fav to win the world cup and surprisingly, England are 2nd most likely to win the cup. France being 3rd most likely while Spain and Argentina join 4th. Who are your favs?

I haven't figured out who my favs are but, I certainly dont believe England have a fair chance to win Cheesy

. They somehow always find a way to disappoint.

England have a young team that performed very well at the European Cup... Although they have a shitty style of play now, even worse than before, but they have a great bus that few can beat... That's probably why bookmakers make them the favourites after Brazil, although I have questions about that list too...

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But finally I can say that the Germans are very strong when it comes to playing football, they are people who have an exquisite technique in football, I think that this World Cup Germany can become the protagonist, and they can lead the way as they have always done I would like to see how Portugal will perform, since it cost them a little more to qualify, it is a pity not to see Sweden with Ibrahimovic.

The German team is strong. Their match strategy is good. At the same time there is no shortage of talented players on the team. However, I would say that their title win will largely depend on the performance of Werner and Muller. If these two players play well, Germany's chances of winning the title will increase. The teams from Brazil and Argentina are also very strong. These two teams are also enough favorites to become world champions.

It's too early in my opinion to talk about who will be the favorite to win, especially in some World Cup titles, surprises always happen. Even the defending champions must first fall in the group phase. Now that more countries have great players, I have seen in the last few years a lot of talented young players emerge and immediately gain more confidence in the club he plays for. This will be a more interesting competition in my opinion, because they must have more motivation to be able to give their maximum game.

It's too early to predict about the World Cup. But we know the players in each squad. We know how they perform in the league. So now we can guess which team will play better in the World Cup. However, it is not always the case that the team will play well if there are more star players in the squad. Even though they have a lot of players in the France squad, their performance is poor. However, considering the capacity of the squad, France, Germany, Brazil and Argentina will be ahead.

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Quote from: bering on June 22, 2022, 12:05:19 AM

I don't know how bookie determined the odds for each teams because France as the previous champion should be first favourite but they have high odds than England or Brazil

You need to look based on their performance in this year, France right now at position #4 on UEFA Nations League A, however I have no idea how can England become favorite number 2 since they do have bad performance like France.

IMO a good club need to have better both offensive and defensive players, because the favorited clubs are mostly have good offense but weak defense e.g. France, England, Argentina. As we know both Benzema and Mbappe as the best center forward in different club didn't work if they placed in the same club.

I'd say either Brazil, Spain and German will win this year FIFA World Cup.

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Quote from: BALIK on June 22, 2022, 01:56:26 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 22, 2022, 12:54:44 AM

But finally I can say that the Germans are very strong when it comes to playing football, they are people who have an exquisite technique in football, I think that this World Cup Germany can become the protagonist, and they can lead the way as they have always done I would like to see how Portugal will perform, since it cost them a little more to qualify, it is a pity not to see Sweden with Ibrahimovic.

The German team is strong. Their match strategy is good. At the same time there is no shortage of talented players on the team. However, I would say that their title win will largely depend on the performance of Werner and Muller. If these two players play well, Germany's chances of winning the title will increase. The teams from Brazil and Argentina are also very strong. These two teams are also enough favorites to become world champions.

It's too early in my opinion to talk about who will be the favorite to win, especially in some World Cup titles, surprises always happen. Even the defending champions must first fall in the group phase. Now that more countries have great players, I have seen in the last few years a lot of talented young players emerge and immediately gain more confidence in the club he plays for. This will be a more interesting competition in my opinion, because they must have more motivation to be able to give their maximum game.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 22, 2022, 12:54:44 AM

But finally I can say that the Germans are very strong when it comes to playing football, they are people who have an exquisite technique in football, I think that this World Cup Germany can become the protagonist, and they can lead the way as they have always done I would like to see how Portugal will perform, since it cost them a little more to qualify, it is a pity not to see Sweden with Ibrahimovic.

The German team is strong. Their match strategy is good. At the same time there is no shortage of talented players on the team. However, I would say that their title win will largely depend on the performance of Werner and Muller. If these two players play well, Germany's chances of winning the title will increase. The teams from Brazil and Argentina are also very strong. These two teams are also enough favorites to become world champions.

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Quote from: bering on June 14, 2022, 10:51:17 PM

Clever Costa Rica because at the beginning of match they can utilized the weakness of New Zealand defense and score goal and after that Costa Rica defense was playing well because until second half there is no good attempts to score goals from New Zealand and seems New Zealand situation became so difficult for them after Barbarouses get red card and after final whistle ended the score hasn't change 1-0 for Costa Rica and after this result they has filled last spot for world cup tournament

I really agree with what you describe, really Costa Rica is a team that surprises me, I don't know if you remember the very famous player from Costa Rica called Wanchope, he was a striker and he really was an exceptional player, he made the difference and When Costa Rica went to the World Cup for the first time, that player always had many fans, I really hope to see one more Wanchope in this World Cup, however I could only see the summary of this game, I would have liked to see New Zealand in the same way in the World Cup, but here only the best wins, as happened with the case of Peru and AUSTRALIA, really Australia is a team that can give us surprises in the World Cup.

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Germany is one of the best teams in this group. But Germany have already won the World Cup trophy several times. In the group that Germany is in, I think there is no doubt that Germany will win all the matches from this group and they will qualify in the next round as the group champion.

I think, Germany is in good position to win this season trophy because their players are fully prepared to defeat any team in this tournament to embrace victory at the end of the tournament. Based on what Germany players demonstrated in their past matches showed that they will definitely win their remaining matches to prove to their country that they have what it takes to win this season title by using 2014 strategies to win this season title because the strategies really helped Germany to won 2014 trophy.

The German team is quite strong. And they have a number of star players in their squad. Germany has a good chance of winning the title if the players of the team can play consistently well. Germany has experienced players like Thomas Muller and Warner. Although Warner has a bad record, he is experienced enough. Germany is also strong enough in defense and midfield.

That is correct - Germans are good. They are strong and surly they have good defence too.
But one thing is for sure - those teams which reaches to final are the best of best. But they lucky one wins that days. The good teams have to be lucky as well.

But finally I can say that the Germans are very strong when it comes to playing football, they are people who have an exquisite technique in football, I think that this World Cup Germany can become the protagonist, and they can lead the way as they have always done I would like to see how Portugal will perform, since it cost them a little more to qualify, it is a pity not to see Sweden with Ibrahimovic.

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Quote from: vennali on June 21, 2022, 09:50:58 PM

According to the bookies(Bet365). Brazil seems to be the fav to win the world cup and surprisingly, England are 2nd most likely to win the cup. France being 3rd most likely while Spain and Argentina join 4th. Who are your favs?

I haven't figured out who my favs are but, I certainly dont believe England have a fair chance to win Cheesy

. They somehow always find a way to disappoint.

I don't know how bookie determined the odds for each teams because France as the previous champion should be first favourite but they have high odds than England or Brazil and these two indeed have good achievement before world cup that England play for euro cup final and Brazil as the finalist from Copa America but both of them has been failed to get the trophies and actually my favourite is England but i don't know why seems they never been lucky during play for this tournament although since 1966 England always be participate but their best achievement besides champion is 4th position on 1990 and 2018

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Quote from: vennali on June 21, 2022, 09:50:58 PM

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According to the bookies(Bet365). Brazil seems to be the fav to win the world cup and surprisingly, England are 2nd most likely to win the cup. France being 3rd most likely while Spain and Argentina join 4th. Who are your favs?

I haven't figured out who my favs are but, I certainly dont believe England have a fair chance to win Cheesy

. They somehow always find a way to disappoint.

Brazil is definitely a strong candidate. Argentina, Germany, and Spain. That would probably be my top 4 pick for this World Cup.

You never know what's going to happen. I mean, Italy didn't even qualify for this one, and they're not going to sell beer at the stadium, so who knows what will happen here... Grin

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Quote from: vennali on June 21, 2022, 09:50:58 PM

According to the bookies(Bet365). Brazil seems to be the fav to win the world cup and surprisingly, England are 2nd most likely to win the cup. France being 3rd most likely while Spain and Argentina join 4th. Who are your favs?

I haven't figured out who my favs are but, I certainly dont believe England have a fair chance to win Cheesy

. They somehow always find a way to disappoint.

IMO, at this point Argentina and Brazil are the favorites to win the world cup. Bookies are giving better odds for the European teams such as England and Germany, because a lot of people bet in favor of these teams compared to the Latin American teams. For me, only Spain and France are capable of winning the world cup from the UEFA. And in case of the latter, there is some overdependence on individual players and the team bonding is not that great. BTW, why no one is considering the possibility of Belgium winning the world cup? Their odds are too low, when compared with England or Spain.

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