2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 82.

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Quote from: lulumiya on June 26, 2022, 01:11:52 PM

Argentina have improved their game a lot in the recent times indeed. Messi is still a big help for the team of course but they have many really skilled players in their squad right now. Their performance in the qualification round for the World Cup has also been mesmerizing. They made Brazil big difficulties in their game there. When it comes to a finale between Argentina and Brazil I must indicate that it would be great. But this would feel like a Copa America finale at the same time. Cheesy

So I think it would be better to have one of these teams playing against a European team in the finale.

Argentina did appear extraordinary in the world cup qualifying event for the Latin America zone, not only that they also managed to lift the Copa America as well as become Lionel Messi's first trophy for Argentina, but the world cup was not only represented by CONMEBOL but consisted of several continents in the world. , and we have seen the previous edition of the world cup where many CONMEBOL representatives often struggled against teams from the European continent and I firmly believe that the European zone will again dominate the Qatar world cup this year

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 27, 2022, 11:32:53 PM

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Budweiser is a beer brand that is produced by Anheuser-Busch. I don't think that they are very concerned about the sales inside the stadiums. They spent a huge amount to become one of the official sponsors, and in return they want their brand name to be flashed everywhere in the media and the venues. Now this is a concern. I don't know whether the Qatari authorities would allow alcohol brands to be advertised inside the stadiums. If that is not allowed, then Anheuser-Busch should pull out of the sponsorship and sue FIFA for the damages.

They definitely want to be able to sell beer inside the stadiums... that's a huge amount of money.

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Qatari officials are weighing whether to relax the country’s ban on alcohol at sporting events ahead of the 2022 FIFA World Cup, sources say

It will be a matter of time I think, eventually they will allow it. The same happens everywhere that has some kind of ban for alcohol. FIFA ends up talking with the local politicians and the rules and laws get changed to allow it.

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Quote from: nullama on June 27, 2022, 08:47:18 PM

One of the sponsors of the World Cup is Budweiser. They make an enormous amount of money by selling low cost yet high priced beer at the stadiums in every single World Cup.

I think they will somehow get to an agreement where they will sell beer at the stadiums. When the World Cup was in Brazil, FIFA literally had to talk to the politicians so that they change a law that banned the sale of alcohol in stadiums. My guess is that the same will happen here. They probably don't want to make this too public, but it will happen. There's just too much money involved.

Budweiser is a beer brand that is produced by Anheuser-Busch. I don't think that they are very concerned about the sales inside the stadiums. They spent a huge amount to become one of the official sponsors, and in return they want their brand name to be flashed everywhere in the media and the venues. Now this is a concern. I don't know whether the Qatari authorities would allow alcohol brands to be advertised inside the stadiums. If that is not allowed, then Anheuser-Busch should pull out of the sponsorship and sue FIFA for the damages.

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Quote from: snipie on June 27, 2022, 06:52:05 PM

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They won't enforce it too much for sure but that doesn't mean that there will not be fines or jail at all. There is safe zones to drink if we could call them that way. For those who have money, they will stay on a cruise ships to avoid the control and live as they used to be. I assume people there will find alternatives to do whatever they want without exposing themselves to the authorities.

One of the sponsors of the World Cup is Budweiser. They make an enormous amount of money by selling low cost yet high priced beer at the stadiums in every single World Cup.

I think they will somehow get to an agreement where they will sell beer at the stadiums. When the World Cup was in Brazil, FIFA literally had to talk to the politicians so that they change a law that banned the sale of alcohol in stadiums. My guess is that the same will happen here. They probably don't want to make this too public, but it will happen. There's just too much money involved.

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Quote from: Ratash on June 26, 2022, 02:21:51 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on June 25, 2022, 06:47:01 AM

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I don't think they will heavily enforce these laws on foreigners Qatar is a major spot for tourists due to their in point infrastructure and top notch hotels so i dont thinkits in their best interest to chase away tourists so i think they have nothing to worry about.

They won't enforce it too much for sure but that doesn't mean that there will not be fines or jail at all. There is safe zones to drink if we could call them that way. For those who have money, they will stay on a cruise ships to avoid the control and live as they used to be. I assume people there will find alternatives to do whatever they want without exposing themselves to the authorities.

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Quote from: W Jr. on June 27, 2022, 05:08:59 PM

Brazil's roster is far from the old legendary players. European teams are looking very good right now. France, Germany, England are playing very successful matches. Even though England looks unsuccessful in the Nations League, I am sure that they will play differently in the tournament. That's why there are favorites in the tournament besides Argentina and Brazil.

Personally, I think that England have all the conditions to come to a great World Cup, and it will probably be a suppressed team. In turn, Brazil and Argentina are also in a much better phase than they were a few years ago. In the case of Germany, I think they are not at the level they are used to at the moment, but of course they can always have a good World Cup. France is a young team, which can be very unpredictable, can show its worst or its worst, for now it is difficult to understand what they will do.

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Quote from: nullama on June 20, 2022, 08:12:01 AM

Quote from: 3meek on June 20, 2022, 04:39:18 AM

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If we look at the South American countries, Brazil looks much stronger than Argentina, although both these teams have never lost in qualifying matches, but Brazil have shown very good results and their preparation for the World Cup... If I had to choose between Argentina and Brazil, I'd bet on a Brazilian win...

Brazil has won the world cup 5 times, whereas Argentina has only won 2 times.

In my mind it's clear that Brazil would end up winning, they usually have a better overall team. Every player is very good. Argentina does have excellent talent like Messi, but as a whole their teams is weaker than Brazil.

Brazil's roster is far from the old legendary players. European teams are looking very good right now. France, Germany, England are playing very successful matches. Even though England looks unsuccessful in the Nations League, I am sure that they will play differently in the tournament. That's why there are favorites in the tournament besides Argentina and Brazil.

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Quote from: Ratash on June 26, 2022, 02:21:51 PM

I don't think they will heavily enforce these laws on foreigners Qatar is a major spot for tourists due to their in point infrastructure and top notch hotels so i dont thinkits in their best interest to chase away tourists so i think they have nothing to worry about.

Agreed - even in Islamic country like Pakistan, foreigner are allowed to ask alcohol, although it is bit more expensive but they get it when they ask for it.
I am not sure how Qatar will deal with all these issue. But I am sure they will do well during the world cup..

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The world cup this year will be featuring some underdogs like Senegal, Cameron etc many nations are coming prepared and ready to fight for the trophy. When it comes to the world cup, football predictions are usually bias because everyone is patriotic to their country and want to win the trophy. I can't wait for the world cup to kick off in September cause Qatar will be bringing a whole different thriller.

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Spain and Germany are not happy with the classification. I think both countries are about the same. The last time they played against each other, an exhibition game I thought, Spain won by a whopping 5-0 or something along those lines. I have no doubt that they both advance to the next round, but then you play against the number 1 of another group. It is therefore important to end the group as a group winner, in order to avoid a strong opponent. Spain and Germany can both become world champions in my view. Although the bookmakers do not fully agree.

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Sincerely, surviving this group will be a tough one for the Ghanaians been grouped with Portugal, South korea and Uruguay. The Ghanian team have performed well so far from the qualifying stage knocking out the Super Eagles to secure a place in the world cup and they will need stronger tactics and better team work to get through this group stage. If they could get points from Uruguay and South Korea then they have a 50:50 chance qualifying to the next stage but it will be really tough.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on June 26, 2022, 07:58:03 AM

Why do you think these two South American national teams are the favorites to perform in the World Cup final?
Personally, I think that the French national team is better than both Brazil and Argentina, despite a few worse results lately, and don't forget Spain, the Netherlands, Belgium, England, Germany etc.
The last time a South American national team was the world champion was in 2002, 20 years ago, and since then European football has been better both on the national team and club level.
I don’t think this trend will change in Qatar.
In any case, a very interesting and uncertain world championship awaits us with a lot of candidates for the title of world champion.

I cannot say which team is more favorites right now, but looking at the odds, it's England and France that many pundits see as the potential winners. You can believe in any other team if you want, that is based on what you want to feel like and if you feel that those two clubs will win then it is your decision and nobody can say anything.

But, the reality is that oddmakers are saying France and England are at the top and they will most likely win it, sure they could lose, and brazil or Argentina could win there is a chance of that, but they are not favorites that's another word than winner. Favorite means highest chance, winner means who actually won it, and Brazil/Argentina is not the favorites.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 25, 2022, 06:47:01 AM

^^^ LOL.. Westerners are going to find this creepy as hell. Even if the couple is in a serious relationship for many years, they won't be allowed to stay in the same room. In the West (and now increasingly in Asia), it is very common for individuals to stay together without marrying. But doing so in Qatar will result in prison time. This edition of the world cup is going to be a disaster for the football fans. Hundreds of thousands of fans will be visiting and in all probability, thousands (if not tens of thousands) are going to land on the wrong side of the law.

I don't think they will heavily enforce these laws on foreigners Qatar is a major spot for tourists due to their in point infrastructure and top notch hotels so i dont thinkits in their best interest to chase away tourists so i think they have nothing to worry about.

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Quote from: repear7 on June 26, 2022, 12:42:13 PM

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Quote from: snipie on June 25, 2022, 06:20:10 PM

I don't understand what you are talking about and whether you are really following football or at least up-to-date lately or not.. Italy has nothing to do with Qatar World Cup 2022! The other mentioned teams are qualified.
The last sentence isn't clear too. You mean Brazil and Argentina will move to finals? I doubt they will pass both to the final game but I think one of them will play the last game

In recent years, Argentina has not shown any good results in the World Cup playoffs, they have a very good squad, very famous players, but they look weak as a team. Brazil traditionally performs very well and I think that they have a good chance to stay in the tournament longer than all the teams from South America, I don’t know if they will reach the final, it’s very difficult to predict this, but anything can happen.

If you watch the game regularly, you will see that Argentina has been a much better team than before. Something was wrong with their team, first the goalkeeper, second the coach. The quarter-final of the 2018 World Cup was lost for the only goalkeeper. But since Emiliano Martínez started the game, he has not lost a single match. So I don't think it will be easy for any team to beat Argentina now.

Currently Argentina make a more stronger team. This country continues to produce some great players who are world-class talent representing them on the international stage. In this consistence they have the chance to take the final cup of this seasson, Now argentina is not only depend on Lionel Messi they have more good players like Emiliano Martinez, Lautaro Martinez,Angel Correa, Paulo Dybala and so on who are played well so in this seasson argentina as well as the supporter are very confident.

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Argentina have improved their game a lot in the recent times indeed. Messi is still a big help for the team of course but they have many really skilled players in their squad right now. Their performance in the qualification round for the World Cup has also been mesmerizing. They made Brazil big difficulties in their game there. When it comes to a finale between Argentina and Brazil I must indicate that it would be great. But this would feel like a Copa America finale at the same time. Cheesy

So I think it would be better to have one of these teams playing against a European team in the finale.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on June 26, 2022, 04:34:03 AM

Quote from: snipie on June 25, 2022, 06:20:10 PM

I don't understand what you are talking about and whether you are really following football or at least up-to-date lately or not.. Italy has nothing to do with Qatar World Cup 2022! The other mentioned teams are qualified.
The last sentence isn't clear too. You mean Brazil and Argentina will move to finals? I doubt they will pass both to the final game but I think one of them will play the last game

In recent years, Argentina has not shown any good results in the World Cup playoffs, they have a very good squad, very famous players, but they look weak as a team. Brazil traditionally performs very well and I think that they have a good chance to stay in the tournament longer than all the teams from South America, I don’t know if they will reach the final, it’s very difficult to predict this, but anything can happen.

If you watch the game regularly, you will see that Argentina has been a much better team than before. Something was wrong with their team, first the goalkeeper, second the coach. The quarter-final of the 2018 World Cup was lost for the only goalkeeper. But since Emiliano Martínez started the game, he has not lost a single match. So I don't think it will be easy for any team to beat Argentina now.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on June 26, 2022, 07:58:03 AM

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Quote from: snipie on June 25, 2022, 06:20:10 PM

You mean Brazil and Argentina will move to finals? I doubt they will pass both to the final game but I think one of them will play the last game

If the World Cup were next month, I would say that Brazil and Argentina were the main favorites to play in the final. But as it will only be at the end of the year, a lot can change, as the European football leagues will be halfway through and the performance of the players may be very different from now. I find it difficult to place bets now on who will reach the final.

Why do you think these two South American national teams are the favorites to perform in the World Cup final?
Personally, I think that the French national team is better than both Brazil and Argentina, despite a few worse results lately, and don't forget Spain, the Netherlands, Belgium, England, Germany etc.
The last time a South American national team was the world champion was in 2002, 20 years ago, and since then European football has been better both on the national team and club level.
I don’t think this trend will change in Qatar.
In any case, a very interesting and uncertain world championship awaits us with a lot of candidates for the title of world champion.

I would say that the outcome of that World Cup is pretty much uncertain. The UEFA Nations League tells nothing about the performance the teams will bring onto the pitch at the World Cup. It's a totally different competition which will evoke a totally different motivation in the players. All too often have we seen that it's really nuances and even sometimes luck how the games are eventually decided between 2 huge teams. The only time I can remember when a team seemed to be almost invincible was Spain from 2008 to 2012 when they became EWC champion in 2008 and 2012 and WC champion in 2010. That really was a time when a national team was so dominant that even the opponents like Italy and so on knew that there is hardly any chance to beat them. In Qatar I find it almost impossible to give a strong guess who will take the trophy home.

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Quote from: joker_josue on June 26, 2022, 03:39:49 AM

Quote from: snipie on June 25, 2022, 06:20:10 PM

You mean Brazil and Argentina will move to finals? I doubt they will pass both to the final game but I think one of them will play the last game

If the World Cup were next month, I would say that Brazil and Argentina were the main favorites to play in the final. But as it will only be at the end of the year, a lot can change, as the European football leagues will be halfway through and the performance of the players may be very different from now. I find it difficult to place bets now on who will reach the final.

Why do you think these two South American national teams are the favorites to perform in the World Cup final?
Personally, I think that the French national team is better than both Brazil and Argentina, despite a few worse results lately, and don't forget Spain, the Netherlands, Belgium, England, Germany etc.
The last time a South American national team was the world champion was in 2002, 20 years ago, and since then European football has been better both on the national team and club level.
I don’t think this trend will change in Qatar.
In any case, a very interesting and uncertain world championship awaits us with a lot of candidates for the title of world champion.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on June 26, 2022, 04:34:03 AM

Quote from: snipie on June 25, 2022, 06:20:10 PM

I don't understand what you are talking about and whether you are really following football or at least up-to-date lately or not.. Italy has nothing to do with Qatar World Cup 2022! The other mentioned teams are qualified.
The last sentence isn't clear too. You mean Brazil and Argentina will move to finals? I doubt they will pass both to the final game but I think one of them will play the last game

In recent years, Argentina has not shown any good results in the World Cup playoffs, they have a very good squad, very famous players, but they look weak as a team. Brazil traditionally performs very well and I think that they have a good chance to stay in the tournament longer than all the teams from South America, I don’t know if they will reach the final, it’s very difficult to predict this, but anything can happen.

now it's different Argentina now is perfect in my opinion, they haven't lost 32 games in 3 years, this is fantastic in my opinion and with their current stats I'm pretty sure they will go far in the world cup qatar this time not even It's also possible that they will be able to become champions, if you look at the squad they have, I don't doubt that.
I don't mean to underestimate other teams like Brazil and others but I see a realistic chance that at the moment Argentina is the best.

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Quote from: snipie on June 25, 2022, 06:20:10 PM

I don't understand what you are talking about and whether you are really following football or at least up-to-date lately or not.. Italy has nothing to do with Qatar World Cup 2022! The other mentioned teams are qualified.
The last sentence isn't clear too. You mean Brazil and Argentina will move to finals? I doubt they will pass both to the final game but I think one of them will play the last game

In recent years, Argentina has not shown any good results in the World Cup playoffs, they have a very good squad, very famous players, but they look weak as a team. Brazil traditionally performs very well and I think that they have a good chance to stay in the tournament longer than all the teams from South America, I don’t know if they will reach the final, it’s very difficult to predict this, but anything can happen.

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