2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 87.

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According to the bookies(Bet365). Brazil seems to be the fav to win the world cup and surprisingly, England are 2nd most likely to win the cup. France being 3rd most likely while Spain and Argentina join 4th. Who are your favs?

I haven't figured out who my favs are but, I certainly dont believe England have a fair chance to win Cheesy

. They somehow always find a way to disappoint.

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Quote from: Theones on June 21, 2022, 08:04:28 PM

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That is correct - Germans are good. They are strong and surly they have good defence too.
But one thing is for sure - those teams which reaches to final are the best of best. But they lucky one wins that days. The good teams have to be lucky as well.

That's the beauty of football.

Even the strongest team can lose to the weakest team. It only takes one mistake, say an own goal, and that's it.

In other sports that never happens. For example in Basketball there's no way a weak team can win against a strong one, because even if there's one mistake, the rest of the plays ensure the strong team wins always.

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Germany is one of the best teams in this group. But Germany have already won the World Cup trophy several times. In the group that Germany is in, I think there is no doubt that Germany will win all the matches from this group and they will qualify in the next round as the group champion.

I think, Germany is in good position to win this season trophy because their players are fully prepared to defeat any team in this tournament to embrace victory at the end of the tournament. Based on what Germany players demonstrated in their past matches showed that they will definitely win their remaining matches to prove to their country that they have what it takes to win this season title by using 2014 strategies to win this season title because the strategies really helped Germany to won 2014 trophy.

The German team is quite strong. And they have a number of star players in their squad. Germany has a good chance of winning the title if the players of the team can play consistently well. Germany has experienced players like Thomas Muller and Warner. Although Warner has a bad record, he is experienced enough. Germany is also strong enough in defense and midfield.

That is correct - Germans are good. They are strong and surly they have good defence too.
But one thing is for sure - those teams which reaches to final are the best of best. But they lucky one wins that days. The good teams have to be lucky as well.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on June 21, 2022, 10:58:45 AM

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Germany is one of the best teams in this group. But Germany have already won the World Cup trophy several times. In the group that Germany is in, I think there is no doubt that Germany will win all the matches from this group and they will qualify in the next round as the group champion.

I think, Germany is in good position to win this season trophy because their players are fully prepared to defeat any team in this tournament to embrace victory at the end of the tournament. Based on what Germany players demonstrated in their past matches showed that they will definitely win their remaining matches to prove to their country that they have what it takes to win this season title by using 2014 strategies to win this season title because the strategies really helped Germany to won 2014 trophy.

Germany is always "ready", they are a well oiled machine that tries to beat everyone without showing any mercy, remember that 7 goals against Brazil? that is what they go out to do every game, doesn't matter if it is Brazil or Sri Lanka.

But, the reality is that even they have periods when they can't play that well, things just do not go their way sometimes, and they fail, just like any human could. They are not really that much different from what they have been for the past 10 years or so, maybe roster changes but the talent level is still at the top. I still think that when you look at it on paper, France still beats them, but we will never know until they face.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on June 21, 2022, 10:58:45 AM

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Germany is one of the best teams in this group. But Germany have already won the World Cup trophy several times. In the group that Germany is in, I think there is no doubt that Germany will win all the matches from this group and they will qualify in the next round as the group champion.

I think, Germany is in good position to win this season trophy because their players are fully prepared to defeat any team in this tournament to embrace victory at the end of the tournament. Based on what Germany players demonstrated in their past matches showed that they will definitely win their remaining matches to prove to their country that they have what it takes to win this season title by using 2014 strategies to win this season title because the strategies really helped Germany to won 2014 trophy.

The German team is quite strong. And they have a number of star players in their squad. Germany has a good chance of winning the title if the players of the team can play consistently well. Germany has experienced players like Thomas Muller and Warner. Although Warner has a bad record, he is experienced enough. Germany is also strong enough in defense and midfield.

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The 2022 World Cup will be the destination of foreign tourists to Qatar because it will be held in winter, and the schedule for that month has also changed the tradition of the World Cup which is usually held when the league schedule in each country has ended, although at first the decision was granted. protests from many countries because it is considered to disrupt the league schedule in each country which in that month usually only lasts half a season but FIFA President has announced that the Qatar 2022 World Cup will be held from 21 November to 18 December 2022.

World Cup happens once in every 4 years, and it is the highest priority tournament in international football. Do these guys really want the FIFA to postpone this premier event, just because it overlaps with some local league? UEFA needs to realize that the world no longer revolves around it. World Cup will see teams from all over the world taking part. And for people like me, it hardly makes a difference whether the world cup schedule overlaps with the national level competitions in some of the nations. It is just one month. The participating nations need to adjust their leagues accordingly. Or if they want, they can pull out of the world cup and concentrate on the league competitions.

Pulling out of the world cup isn't as easy as it sounds. The solution to this is the various national leagues to adjust their fixtures and games to fit in with the situation. The world cup competition is already affected by the COVID-19 pandemic, postponing will only cause more problems than good afterall the competition is just for a month so the leagues will have to adjust their time table.

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Germany is one of the best teams in this group. But Germany have already won the World Cup trophy several times. In the group that Germany is in, I think there is no doubt that Germany will win all the matches from this group and they will qualify in the next round as the group champion.

Germany traditionally is the favourite because their achievement in this tournament and most of people will predict they will went to round 16 with Spain but do not forget Germany has totally failed on world cup 2018 even they were humiliated by South Korea with score 2-0 so Germany should be learn from their mistakes even their records during met Spain was very bad that last time both of teams has been met and Germany lose 6-0 from Spain so this is not easy group for them

I really believe that Germany can talk a lot in the Qatar world cup but they also have to be wary of Spain where they often lose against the bullfighters.because they have learned from the experience of 4 years ago during the Russian world cup where surprisingly they had to eliminated early after being defeated by South Korea at that time Germany came to Russia as defending champions, but they appeared so disappointing.Hansi flick's squad this season is the best squad and I firmly believe that they can reach the quarter-finals or semi-finals in the Qatar world cup this season

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Quote from: casperBGD on June 21, 2022, 11:49:21 AM

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Germany is always in a good position to win a world cup, but I think that this one will go to South America
last four went to European teams, all different (Italy, Spain, Germany, France), so looking at statistics it is either England or South American giants, and with England team, that is leaving us with Brasil and Argentina

with all said, I think that Argentina is a bit closer to winning it

It's going to be an interesting world cup. Previous champion Italy didn't even qualify for this one!

Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, France, Spain, all of them have high chances of becoming the champion of this world cup.

And who knows, sometimes there are surprises as well!

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on June 21, 2022, 10:58:45 AM

I think, Germany is in good position to win this season trophy

Germany is always in a good position to win a world cup, but I think that this one will go to South America
last four went to European teams, all different (Italy, Spain, Germany, France), so looking at statistics it is either England or South American giants, and with England team, that is leaving us with Brasil and Argentina

with all said, I think that Argentina is a bit closer to winning it

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Germany is one of the best teams in this group. But Germany have already won the World Cup trophy several times. In the group that Germany is in, I think there is no doubt that Germany will win all the matches from this group and they will qualify in the next round as the group champion.

I think, Germany is in good position to win this season trophy because their players are fully prepared to defeat any team in this tournament to embrace victory at the end of the tournament. Based on what Germany players demonstrated in their past matches showed that they will definitely win their remaining matches to prove to their country that they have what it takes to win this season title by using 2014 strategies to win this season title because the strategies really helped Germany to won 2014 trophy.

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Quote from: onecall123 on June 21, 2022, 06:14:04 AM

From an early age, Germans are taught to work together, not by themselves. Though In the last eight years, the German team has been far from winning a title. As we all know, Germany was eliminated in the group stage of the World Cup. It wasn't even possible for them to make it out of their weak group in 2018. The only outcome of ignoring your weak opponents in tournaments such as the FIFA World Cup is humiliation. Teamwork is one of the strengths of the Germans. You'll see yourself in a much better place if you can do that objectively.

I don't want to say anything against the team bonding of the German team. But this time, early during the qualification phase, they suffered a lot of upsets and there was a crisis related to the coaching role as well. Germany suffered 1-2 defeat at the hands of North Macedonia during the UEFA qualifiers. They more than made up for that, by scoring major victories against Armenia and Iceland. But the humiliation they suffered during the match against the small Balkan nation will be fresh in their minds, when they travel to Qatar.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 21, 2022, 08:48:18 AM

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Teamwork is one of the strengths of the Germans. You'll see yourself in a much better place if you can do that objectively.

This is definitely true, teamwork is vital in football, not just at international level. Often you see club teams just spending big money on big name players who just won't fit into the side properly. If you buy the best 11 individuals in the world, chances are you're not going to end up with the best team. It's how the individual parts fit together that is key, and Germany are indeed often very good at this. It's not as simple as saying e.g. who should play at left-back, and then picking your best individual left-back... you need to pick the one that will fit well with the other players you're picking.

Germany has a good philosophy of football, where they are more concerned with achievements team than individual achievements. So cooperation between players is more visible here, playing football is clear and in tandem with one player to another. So far I don't see a player who stands out on his own, but rather all players play equally.

Yes bro,germany learned a lot from the defeat of the equivalent team. in this season.hehe.
if only time could be turned back imagine miroslav klose can fight in this year's world cup.
I agree with other friends that if you play individually, deny that a solid team Germany gives sweet memories of the last world cup. Although Muller and the Hrbat people in Germany alternated for a formation but I enjoyed their game.
Beautiful bait I think I will enjoy again in the world cup this year. Germany will provide an interesting treat in the arena.
I think it could be under Hansi Flick's tutelage.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on June 21, 2022, 08:29:14 AM

Quote from: onecall123 on June 21, 2022, 06:14:04 AM

Teamwork is one of the strengths of the Germans. You'll see yourself in a much better place if you can do that objectively.

This is definitely true, teamwork is vital in football, not just at international level. Often you see club teams just spending big money on big name players who just won't fit into the side properly. If you buy the best 11 individuals in the world, chances are you're not going to end up with the best team. It's how the individual parts fit together that is key, and Germany are indeed often very good at this. It's not as simple as saying e.g. who should play at left-back, and then picking your best individual left-back... you need to pick the one that will fit well with the other players you're picking.

Germany has a good philosophy of football, where they are more concerned with achievements team than individual achievements. So cooperation between players is more visible here, playing football is clear and in tandem with one player to another. So far I don't see a player who stands out on his own, but rather all players play equally.

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Quote from: onecall123 on June 21, 2022, 06:14:04 AM

Teamwork is one of the strengths of the Germans. You'll see yourself in a much better place if you can do that objectively.

This is definitely true, teamwork is vital in football, not just at international level. Often you see club teams just spending big money on big name players who just won't fit into the side properly. If you buy the best 11 individuals in the world, chances are you're not going to end up with the best team. It's how the individual parts fit together that is key, and Germany are indeed often very good at this. It's not as simple as saying e.g. who should play at left-back, and then picking your best individual left-back... you need to pick the one that will fit well with the other players you're picking.

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Quote from: bering on June 21, 2022, 05:49:31 AM

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Germany is one of the best teams in this group. But Germany have already won the World Cup trophy several times. In the group that Germany is in, I think there is no doubt that Germany will win all the matches from this group and they will qualify in the next round as the group champion.

Germany traditionally is the favourite because their achievement in this tournament and most of people will predict they will went to round 16 with Spain but do not forget Germany has totally failed on world cup 2018 even they were humiliated by South Korea with score 2-0 so Germany should be learn from their mistakes even their records during met Spain was very bad that last time both of teams has been met and Germany lose 6-0 from Spain so this is not easy group for them

From an early age, Germans are taught to work together, not by themselves. Though In the last eight years, the German team has been far from winning a title. As we all know, Germany was eliminated in the group stage of the World Cup. It wasn't even possible for them to make it out of their weak group in 2018. The only outcome of ignoring your weak opponents in tournaments such as the FIFA World Cup is humiliation. Teamwork is one of the strengths of the Germans. You'll see yourself in a much better place if you can do that objectively.

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Yes, the other day on Twitter I came across a picture of the final distribution of teams in that group and I immediately remembered this discussion. It really was a surprise for everyone. Theoretically, something similar should happen at current World Cup (since if the favorites always won, the chances for them would be 1.01, and not like now), but it is very difficult to understand where the kaleidoscope will develop in such a way that one team will completely fail and the other play above their capabilities.

Yes, Germany is the one who remembers they got knocked out in the very first round and I remember another theory coming into play that if your group stage is way too easy, then you will suffer in the KO rounds because you'll be too overconfident and too complacent, whereas on the other hand, play tough groups and you come out ready to battle in the KO rounds.

IIRC this is how recent tournaments played even in African Cup of Nations. Time to bet against easy group winners!

No team in the German group is weak. Spain's squad may have fewer experienced players. But there are lots of talented players. I can't call the Japan team weak. A few days ago, Japan had won 4-1 against teams like Paraguay and Ghana. The Costa Rica team is a bit weak though. But sometimes this team surprises everyone. So it will not be easy for Germany and Spain to be at the top of the group.

I believe that Germany will be hurting from last time’s display, hence I doubt that they’ll take any team lightly and thus I believe that wagering on them makes sense. Lastly I think that Spain will be a tricky opponent and therefore I’m not comfortable wagering against them unless they’re performing really bad, but lastly I doubt that Spain will flop at the World Cup hence be careful if you decide to wager against them.

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If we look at the South American countries, Brazil looks much stronger than Argentina, although both these teams have never lost in qualifying matches, but Brazil have shown very good results and their preparation for the World Cup... If I had to choose between Argentina and Brazil, I'd bet on a Brazilian win...

One thing i know about Brazil is it consistency in games in general and not only are they good in football alone but in many different hames, i believe they can deliver upto expectation because they have started well beyond reasonable doubts while Argentina too is believed to have all that it takes to the way all to quatar, just that many countries that were earlier eliminated will still have the scar for thier losses on them for missing the very opportunity to quatar.

I also think Brazil is a serious contender for the World Cup title, especially as it has been a long time since they won this competition and their team is now very strong and ready to fight with other rivals... It's been 20 years since they were last champions... Hopefully this year they will at least make it to the finals...

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Quote from: topman21 on June 20, 2022, 01:17:47 PM

Germany is one of the best teams in this group. But Germany have already won the World Cup trophy several times. In the group that Germany is in, I think there is no doubt that Germany will win all the matches from this group and they will qualify in the next round as the group champion.

Germany traditionally is the favourite because their achievement in this tournament and most of people will predict they will went to round 16 with Spain but do not forget Germany has totally failed on world cup 2018 even they were humiliated by South Korea with score 2-0 so Germany should be learn from their mistakes even their records during met Spain was very bad that last time both of teams has been met and Germany lose 6-0 from Spain so this is not easy group for them

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Quote from: Boristhecat on June 20, 2022, 10:41:46 AM

Yes, the other day on Twitter I came across a picture of the final distribution of teams in that group and I immediately remembered this discussion. It really was a surprise for everyone. Theoretically, something similar should happen at current World Cup (since if the favorites always won, the chances for them would be 1.01, and not like now), but it is very difficult to understand where the kaleidoscope will develop in such a way that one team will completely fail and the other play above their capabilities.

Yes, Germany is the one who remembers they got knocked out in the very first round and I remember another theory coming into play that if your group stage is way too easy, then you will suffer in the KO rounds because you'll be too overconfident and too complacent, whereas on the other hand, play tough groups and you come out ready to battle in the KO rounds.

IIRC this is how recent tournaments played even in African Cup of Nations. Time to bet against easy group winners!

No team in the German group is weak. Spain's squad may have fewer experienced players. But there are lots of talented players. I can't call the Japan team weak. A few days ago, Japan had won 4-1 against teams like Paraguay and Ghana. The Costa Rica team is a bit weak though. But sometimes this team surprises everyone. So it will not be easy for Germany and Spain to be at the top of the group.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on June 20, 2022, 10:41:46 AM

Yes, the other day on Twitter I came across a picture of the final distribution of teams in that group and I immediately remembered this discussion. It really was a surprise for everyone. Theoretically, something similar should happen at current World Cup (since if the favorites always won, the chances for them would be 1.01, and not like now), but it is very difficult to understand where the kaleidoscope will develop in such a way that one team will completely fail and the other play above their capabilities.

Yes, Germany is the one who remembers they got knocked out in the very first round and I remember another theory coming into play that if your group stage is way too easy, then you will suffer in the KO rounds because you'll be too overconfident and too complacent, whereas on the other hand, play tough groups and you come out ready to battle in the KO rounds.

IIRC this is how recent tournaments played even in African Cup of Nations. Time to bet against easy group winners!

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