Topic: 2024 & Prediction of World War III - Effect on Cryptocurrencies - page 3. (Read 1073 times)

Oh, cool, now could you answer me: was any US official prosecuted for this act? Any international court orders issued to arrest president Truman? Were there any sanctions imposed on the US by the international community? Were US sportsmen banned from international competitions?

Check and mate, Bozo! Now I'll go get some popcorn and waiting for your answer which will be quite entertaining I suspect.... 

I agree that from a military point of view there was no need for the US to drop nuclear bombs on the peaceful Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945 and that these were, in fact, US war crimes.

In the current situation, Putin’s Russia, although they declare that they are open to negotiations with Ukraine, however, the precondition for negotiations is the consent of Ukraine to the fact that the occupied territories of Ukraine remain with Russia, and this is unacceptable for Ukraine and for the entire civilized world. More and more states are being drawn into this bloody and brutal war, and therefore the threat of World War III is growing rapidly.

We are talking about war crime committed by the US regime and the lack of justification for it, not what could have happened between USSR and Japan. As for any battles that took place between the two timeframes, that's due to lack of negotiations which is the only reason why any wars stop. US regime wanted to test its nukes somewhere which is why they refused to negotiate peace with Japan so Japanese kept fighting a little longer than they wanted to.

To stop the war in Ukraine, Russia does not have to drop a nuclear bomb on its territory.  To do this, it is only necessary to withdraw Russian troops from the territory of Ukraine.  In addition, it must be taken into account that any use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine will have a negative impact on the environment and people both in Russia itself and in European countries.  And this will actually mean an attack on NATO countries.

No one here approves of the use of nuclear weapons against peaceful cities for any purpose and under any circumstances. The nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945 was most likely a political step for the United States to demonstrate the capabilities of new nuclear weapons and an experiment to study their consequences of use in war conditions.

In the current conditions, Russia itself attacked the neighboring state of Ukraine, and so that no one would stop it from destroying Ukraine and destroying its population, it is trying to threaten and blackmail the whole world with the use of nuclear weapons. This is blasphemous and has no justification from any point of view, and also carries a direct and obvious threat of starting World War III.

Despite all of this, from a humanitarian perspective, is this a justification for dropping two nuclear bombs on two Japanese cities containing hundreds of thousands of civilians and killing about 200,000 people to stop the war?

Likewise, compared to the current situation, does Ukraine’s continued resistance against Russia represent a justification for dropping a Russian nuclear bomb on Ukrainian cities to stop the war?

This is unacceptable from a humanitarian perspective, even in the most horrific and longest wars. From my personal point of view, there is no justification for dropping a nuclear bomb on any enemy.

Do you want to say that after the surrender of Germany in May 1945, the million-strong Kwantung Army of Japan, which was an ally of Germany and was armed with over 1.2 thousand tanks, more than 6.6 thousand guns, 1.9 thousand aircraft, over 30 combat ships and boats did not pose a threat to the eastern borders of the USSR at all? In fierce battles throughout August 1945, the irretrievable losses of Soviet troops amounted to 12 thousand people, medical losses - 24.4 thousand. Was this damage caused by those who were unable to resist? Why then didn’t Japan capitulate earlier than September 2 and fought stubborn battles with Soviet troops for almost a month? In a national radio address, Emperor Hirohito announced surrender to the Japanese people on August 15, but the Japanese army continued to offer serious resistance for a long time.

I'm not sure how to respond when your source is Wikipedia!!!

If you got the time, study the history of this period from a military standpoint (in books and other "reliable" sources, not Wikipedia) you can clearly see that there is enough evidence (even in the history written by the "victor") that Japan had already been defeated. For example Japan (which is an island in case you don't know) had its entire navy destroyed by the end of 1944 and 1945 started with the Allies having almost full control of all the seas around Japan.
Same with Japanese air-force that had been almost entirely destroyed.

To put simply, they didn't even have the capability to exit their own soil let alone continue fighting.

There are a lot of other evidence that clearly shows their total defeat way before the US regime committed mass murder in Japan by using not one but two Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Are you ready for the last nail in the coffin?
In the book Atomic Diplomacy by Gar Alperovitz (an American historian and writer in a book that is listed on the Office of the Historian which is a US government official department under the department of state) Alperovitz explains how Japan had already accepted defeat and had started peace envoy missions back in September 1944.
He doesn't stop there. There's more. He explains how the US regime knew the Japanese were defeated, wanted to surrender and negotiate peace so there was no need for any kind of invasion let alone dropping two nukes murdering over two hundred thousand civilians.

Well, also a "short version", where a big period fell out, and a very important moment: on September 17, 1939, the USSR invaded Poland and soon seized the entire east of the country. By the end of September any resistance was crushed and Poland was divided between the Soviet Union and the Third Reich - to the horror of the entire world community.

After that, Germany and the USSR organized several more attacks on other European countries. This "brotherhood of Nazis" existed up to June 22, 1941, when Germany and the USSR had a small disagreement. On Germany's side, Hitler wanted to settle things peacefully. But the Soviets did not want to solve peacefully, played games and forced Hitler to launch a preemptive strike against the USSR! It was essentially self-defense of Germany.
And about peaceful initiatives of Germany in relation to the USSR, speaks the fact that on May 1, 1941, Germany together with the USSR held a parade of fraternal peoples, the Labor Communist Party of the USSR, and the National Socialist German Workers' Party of Germany.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52z6NV3bijI

You have a slightly wrong idea about the chronology of the final stage of World War II.

World War II took place from September 1, 1939 to September 2, 1945.
Here's what Wikipedia says about it:
“The beginning of World War II is considered to be September 1, 1939, when Nazi Germany launched its invasion of Poland...
The invasion of Anglo-American troops into Germany and the Battle of Berlin brought only Germany out of the war, which signed the act of surrender on May 8 (May 9 Moscow time), 1945. In July 1945, the United States sent Japan the Potsdam Declaration, which it rejected. This was followed by the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the entry of the USSR into the war. On September 2, 1945, Japan signed the instrument of surrender. This ended the Second World War."
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80 %D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B0

In the period following the atomic bombing of the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki on August 6 and 9, 1945, and until Japan's surrender on September 2, large-scale military operations still took place. Thus, given Japan’s refusal of the unconditional surrender offered to it, the USSR made a statement to the Japanese government on August 8 that since August 9, 1945, it considers itself to be at war with Japan. On August 10, the Mongolian People's Revolutionary Army (PRA) entered the war against Japan. The fighting took place on fronts stretching over 5 thousand km. Only on September 2, at 9:04 a.m. (Tokyo time), the Act of Surrender of Japan was signed on board the American battleship Missouri, which was in Tokyo Bay.
https://www.noo-journal.ru/sovetsko-yaponskaya-voyna-1945/

European War 2 had already ended in early 1945 and it was official in May when Germany surrendered. Japan was also already defeated and had lost the war and had given up. Then the US regime dropped the nukes on them to make a statement for the future in the New World Order at the time showing its devastating capability and the will to commit mass murder.

To put simply, usage of nuclear weapons by the US regime had nothing to do with WW2.

Your friend is wrong. Bitcoin isn't an island, it's a part of economy and definitely affected by it (as you can tell looking at the volatility spikes in it versus world events). Bitcoin gets a boost when there are news of government acceptance, and price of it has been affected negatively by stock market dips in the past, so why wouldn't it be affected by WW3? Natural disaster wouldn't be any diffrent from that, depending how big and where, it could cause panic sale in all markets. And i am not talking about some tornado or floods, but catastrophic event.

Also if there's going to be big enough war that you can call world war 3, or catastrophic world event, i am sure that price of bitcoin will be least of our problems. At least if all of our wealth isn't tied to it at the moment. I can't really be afraid of any sudden natural disaster, but slower natural disasters could definitely cause WW3.

I hoped and thought that i could live rest of my days without seeing a war in my lifetime, but i am not certain anymore.

Ok, thanks god you admit the Americans did it. I thought you were going to say Putin is to blame.  


Where have you been for the last two years or so? At least, try to read the headlines: Macron: I can't rule out sending of NATO ground troops to Ukraine. President of Latvia Rinkevics: Russia should be destroyed. And many more similar headlines threatening to destroy Russia as a country. So in this situation Russia doesn't blackmail anyone, merely trying to defend itself from aggressive US sockpuppets.


I think you underestimate the power of the nukes. Ukraine will turn into a uninhabitable desert. There will ne noone left to defend it and nothing to defend.


Like what kind of measures? What kind of measures can be taken against a global nuclear superpower?  


WW3 is not going to happen. Because it would mean our civilization will cease to exist. Is it too hard to understand, colonel?  

On August 6 and 9, 1945, the United States used nuclear weapons for the first time in human history to force Japan to surrender in World War II. The attack killed 70-100 thousand people in Hiroshima and 70 thousand in Nagasaki. The death toll, including those who died from radiation sickness, exceeds 500 thousand.
As we see, there have already been cases of the combat use of nuclear weapons, and the paradox is that humanity never learns from its mistakes.

In recent years, we have seen how Putin’s Russia, carrying out a military invasion of Ukraine and trying to seize this state, also periodically blackmails the world with nuclear weapons. At the same time, the Kremlin is gaining the audacity to tell other states that they should not dare to help Ukraine defend itself, otherwise, under certain circumstances, Russia will be ready to use nuclear weapons. Blackmail is also directed towards the Ukrainians in the sense that if you effectively resist killing you, then we can still drop a nuclear bomb on you. For Ukraine, such blackmail makes no sense at all. This state will, under any circumstances, defend itself to the extent possible, even if nuclear weapons are used against it.

In this situation, international organizations, and primarily the UN, should have taken tough preventive measures, but the UN is practically inactive, and therefore there are virtually no deterrents for Putin. The Fuhrer of Russia, dying of old age and illness, may well decide to launch a nuclear attack, if only in order to deprive him of a trace in human history, even if in such a terrible way. The people of Russia and Putin’s entourage themselves could have prevented Putin from this madness, but they are afraid to even write against him, and hundreds of thousands of people are being driven to the front in Ukraine to be slaughtered. Russians are dying like silent cattle and don’t even moo.

The third world war, if it has not yet begun, could break out at any minute. But those who are dead or dying from radiation sickness do not need cryptocurrency.

but who in this world also has once dropped a nuke? because it could mean history can repeat itself.
if everyone will already be showing their nuke capability in the media. these leaders will know they may never be stopping anymore and pressing that red button will be done shortly.

they don't need consensus before dropping the nuke. there is no transaction fee to send a nuke. in fact we are now programmed there will be blackout in different places. during blackout, our crypto is useless.

If WW 3 does really happen then definitely it will become a nuke war. Any countries have nuke might use it at the beginning of the war or when they start losing to their opponent.
Crypto and human will become history, there is no way to survive after US, China and Russia launch all of their nukes.
But I doubt human really stupid to use all of the nukes in this world, if it only less than 5 perhaps human still can survive and there is still a chance crypto will be used again after the end of WW3.

You are wrong to compare the cryptocurrency market to other markets, and the consequences of World War II to the possible consequences of World War III.

  Nuclear weapons appeared only at the end of World War II in the United States, and their use in August 1945 against Japan quickly led to the latter's surrender. Currently, at least seven major states have nuclear weapons, and their arsenal amounts to 17,270 nuclear weapons. If at least some of them explode during the next world war, then people will no longer care about cryptocurrency. It definitely won’t be on survival lists. If the Third World War is nuclear, then everything will change, from the climate, the atmosphere, to the way of life of the surviving people and their appearance.

Many say that such a war will not happen because there can be no winners in it. Yes it is. But the reasoning of idiots is different from the reasoning of ordinary people. They reason like this: if I don’t win, then no one will win this war. For example: how many times has Russia threatened to use nuclear weapons over the past two years of its own military aggression against Ukraine? But in such a tense situation, the response measure can be purely preventive, even if Russia is now bluffing.

Technically, the cryptocurrencies with the bigger communities and the widest network effects - Bitcoin - would, I believe, continue to exist,p.

Utility, Bitcoin in your wallet is actually yours, you are sovereign in that regard, and in real control of your assets. It's going to be more useful in times of political/social instability.

Market, what were the markets like during World War II? They continued to exist and trade/function, no? The price of the assets might be lower because of lower demand, but the market never "died".

It's not even a matter of the number of hotbeds of military conflict, although recently their number has been inexorably increasing. The current formation of two blocs of states, which in the end may well start a large-scale war among themselves, poses a very great danger. On the one hand are Russia, Iran, North Korea and, apparently, China, and on the other hand are the USA, Canada, Japan, South Korea and European countries along with the UK. The confrontation between these blocs of states is changing, but on the whole it is growing.

Russia is now the catalyst for military tension, because it is bogged down in the war against Ukraine, does not have the opportunity to get out of it with dignity even if the Kremlin wishes, and therefore creates military conflicts and incites other states to do so, so that the United States and its allies provide more assistance to other states , not Ukraine. The threat of World War III in this case is great, but it does not necessarily escalate into a world war.

Regarding war, there are probably quite a lot of predictions, maybe it will start slowly, maybe it will boom in 2025. I also see it as a main issue.

So, in relation to the Crypto Market, if there really is a war and its impact, we cannot yet say it clearly and with certainty. What is clear is that it also has its own impact on the market. Actually, the current market war is a price war that is always fluctuating and will never end, yes. As long as there is supply and demand in the cryptocurrency market. Every day we see the price of bitcoin moving up and down within a small range.

Whether you end up in ETH or something else, these fluctuations will definitely test our psychology, whether we are strong enough to face them or not. If we are strong in facing it, I am sure we will get a lot of benefits from the price of bitcoin.

there is no trigger for world war 3. because world wars occur in many regions. not just in one zone, for example Europe, but in many regions and involving many countries, for example world war II.
Currently there are only wars in small areas, for example in Palestine or in Ukraine. even then there are only a few involved. world war can occur if there is a war between the western bloc of the USA and the eastern block of the Soviet Union involving members of the countries that are included in the block.