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Topic: 2^256 Deep Space Vagabond - page 6. (Read 38737 times)

donator
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1015
September 25, 2013, 02:26:46 PM
Are we done, now? Smiley

No, we are not because you are excluding one very important variable, called luck. I don't care about your calculations, if chance is not exactly
0% than "address collision is impossible" is a myth.
Well, I suppose that's true. If you're feeling lucky, I'll bet you $20,000 (would be more, but I'm poor) that you won't roll a 1 on a 9,000,000,000,000,000,000-sided die. Technically, you have a 0.00000000000000000011111111111111111111111111111111% chance of winning... As far as significant numbers go, you would have 0% chance of winning.

So, yes, it's possible, but any rational person would be more than willing to bet a ton of money on those odds.

ETA: By bet, I mean I'll pay out $20k if I lose. If you lose, you don't have to pay anything out. This would be more in line with trusting an address not to be "stumbled upon" with DSV-like software.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1280
May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage
September 25, 2013, 02:15:31 PM
inb4 YOU SEE IT'S A MYTH IT'S NOT 0%!!
donator
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1015
September 25, 2013, 02:13:44 PM
Assuming 500K addresses which either have funds or will have funds within next three months,
0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000034211388289180104270598866779539% chance per check.

Assuming average computer can do 250 optimized DSV-like checks per second,
0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000085528470722950260676497166948848% chance per second.

Assuming a "theft pool" is formed, and 500 of these computers averaging the above click/s,
0.00000000000000000000000000000000000042764235361475130338248583474424% chance per second.

Assuming each theft pool is one botnet, and 20 botnets, exactly the same, exist in these theft pools,
0.0000000000000000000000000000000000085528470722950260676497166948848% chance per second.

Per minute,
0.00000000000000000000000000000000051317082433770156405898300169309%

Per hour,
0.000000000000000000000000000000030790249460262093843538980101585%

Per day,
0.00000000000000000000000000000073896598704629025224493552243804%

Per month (30D),
0.000000000000000000000000000022168979611388707567348065673141%

Per year,
0.00000000000000000000000000026972258527189594206940146568988%


Assume worst-case scenario, DSV-like software can check 5000 addresses (10M of which are funded or will be funded within 6 months) per second, and 100 botnets of 50,000 computers each...
Per day,
0.000000000000000000000000014779319740925805044898710448761%

Per month,
0.00000000000000000000000044337959222777415134696131346283%

Per year,
0.0000000000000000000000053944517054379188413880293137978%

Per century,
0.00000000000000000000053944517054379188413880293137978%


Are we done, now? Smiley


ETA: Worse-than-worst case scenario. NSA can check 1T addresses per second, 1T addresses are funded.
Per century,
0.0000000000000021577806821751675365552117255191%

Per billion centuries,
0.0000021577806821751675365552117255191%
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1280
May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage
September 25, 2013, 01:53:48 PM
you shutdown the project to maintain the "0% chance for address collision" myth?



I'm closing this project due to other priorities. Thanks everyone. It was fun!   

Why remove .scr file? Some people started getting results and you shutdown the project to maintain the "0% chance for address colision" myth?
It's not a myth, it's just facts. 2^256 is a really really really large number.
2^160
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1011
Reverse engineer from time to time
September 25, 2013, 01:51:43 PM
I'm closing this project due to other priorities. Thanks everyone. It was fun!    

Why remove .scr file? Some people started getting results and you shutdown the project to maintain the "0% chance for address colision" myth?
It's not a myth, it's just facts. 2^256 is a really really really large number.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500
September 18, 2013, 05:13:06 PM
Here you can find a list of all addresses and their current balance, as of block 207681.

How did you make this? Do you have and updated version?

Thks.
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
June 13, 2013, 08:18:17 PM
Should have gotten 1DsXxztYCB7EC1rqExZAMNrCYpQhpntx9z Grin
WRONG!!!!!
1DSv3.....

One can only wish............
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
0xFB0D8D1534241423
June 13, 2013, 06:13:31 PM
Should have gotten 1DsXxztYCB7EC1rqExZAMNrCYpQhpntx9z Grin
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
June 13, 2013, 06:02:38 PM
Sorry to bump, but...

I GOT ONE!!!!

1DS..........
5J2...........

And the address has no money...
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1016
090930
April 08, 2013, 12:20:16 PM
I'm closing this project due to other priorities. Thanks everyone. It was fun!   
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1016
090930
March 20, 2013, 03:01:58 PM
How to add extra address in lost_coins list?  Huh

and how to install "local bitcoind + ABE installation" for locally fetching data?

The list is hard-coded in the current implementation. Adding support for custom hotlists is on my to-do list but
not a high priority at this time.

I am willing to make custom builds with a user-defined hotlist hard-coded available to donators.

The support for ABE is no longer working at this time and I don't have enough time/motivation to work on it right now Sad
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1049
Death to enemies!
March 17, 2013, 08:54:27 PM
Sandboxie is crap. With default configuration it does not prevent the malware from accessing and reading files on hard drive and doing other things such as stealing wallet file. It only prevents from file creation or system modification. Run any untrusted code in virtual machine such as VMware.
sr. member
Activity: 383
Merit: 250
March 17, 2013, 05:20:09 PM
How to add extra address in lost_coins list?  Huh

and how to install "local bitcoind + ABE installation" for locally fetching data?
member
Activity: 85
Merit: 10
March 13, 2013, 03:08:09 PM
It would take a long time to cache them all, I mean, you would need to calculate the balance of the address based on the previous transactions(if any). Then, you'd need to update it at least once per day, this cache list.

You just update the addresses as you parse the block chain, then you can parse the new blocks live as they come in. It takes about the same amount of time as a client catching up to the block chain, it just needs a lot of RAM.
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1011
Reverse engineer from time to time
March 13, 2013, 02:30:18 PM
If you download the entire blockchain it is possible to keep a copy of the balance of ALL addresses in a memcache deamon in ram. It allows you to check the balance of any address without using extra bandwidth.

I have seen setups like that to run through dictionaries looking for brain wallets.
It would take a long time to cache them all, I mean, you would need to calculate the balance of the address based on the previous transactions(if any). Then, you'd need to update it at least once per day, this cache list.
member
Activity: 85
Merit: 10
March 13, 2013, 01:14:44 PM
If you download the entire blockchain it is possible to keep a copy of the balance of ALL addresses in a memcache deamon in ram. It allows you to check the balance of any address without using extra bandwidth.

I have seen setups like that to run through dictionaries looking for brain wallets.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1016
090930
March 13, 2013, 12:52:56 PM
New update released (1.475), now using the lost_coins Hotlist by default.
Also, the application can be fully used offline now. Only if you need to query for live balances will it connect to the Internet.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1002
Hello!
February 21, 2013, 10:38:30 PM
1DWgwTzAQ7XNFbs4B2tMjf6JNFBXgzWSVh
yayyy....

lol

Thanks man
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1016
090930
February 21, 2013, 03:27:08 PM
And the winner is..... Mushroomized!!

That was an easy one wasn't it? Smiley

Please post or PM your address so I can pay the 0.256BTC bounty.
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1064
Bitcoin is antisemitic
February 06, 2013, 01:15:27 PM
OK, a minor update (v1.472) is out, which automatically saves all private keys to a text file, as per popular demand...

It would be better to save just addresses with a balance >0, even because when the txt file grows too much it crashes the program.
I would like even the option to run it in the background.
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