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Topic: 2.8 btc transaction fee paid, help please. Final update: REFUNDED by GHash.IO! - page 4. (Read 10197 times)

legendary
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Yes, they are, since mining fees are paid out to miners on Ghash, so yes, they would be taking their money.

There's a lot of room for debate on that one.

Would GHash be taking money that belongs to the miners to pay back btcxchg?

Or would the miners be taking money that belongs to btcxchg if GHash pays them with these funds?

On the one hand you could say that once it is sent, it belongs to the receiver regardless of intent.

On the other hand, some could argue that an accidental payment to an unintended recipient carries a moral, ethical (and possibly? legal) requirement to return the payment to the sender.

In my case with GHash.IO, my transaction fee (about BTC2.6) was distributed to the miners immediately after hitting the block, so instead of retrieving that balance from the miners, which the support person I contacted said was impossible, he forwarded my case to a supervisor who was able to pay me back the fee from GHash.IO's own funds.

Good luck to you Smiley

Great!

How long it happened?


I made my own mistake on Dec. 9th, 2013. So not that long ago.

Ouch that was right before the peak too at a USD equivalent of 900 dollars!

Yeah, would have been a pretty large loss for me, lucky that GHash.IO was able to refund me.

To OP, just saying, it might take more than a week, because in my case, it had to be escalated from normal support to a supervisor who then had to contact the CFO. Be patient Smiley
hero member
Activity: 820
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Yes, they are, since mining fees are paid out to miners on Ghash, so yes, they would be taking their money.

There's a lot of room for debate on that one.

Would GHash be taking money that belongs to the miners to pay back btcxchg?

Or would the miners be taking money that belongs to btcxchg if GHash pays them with these funds?

On the one hand you could say that once it is sent, it belongs to the receiver regardless of intent.

On the other hand, some could argue that an accidental payment to an unintended recipient carries a moral, ethical (and possibly? legal) requirement to return the payment to the sender.

In my case with GHash.IO, my transaction fee (about BTC2.6) was distributed to the miners immediately after hitting the block, so instead of retrieving that balance from the miners, which the support person I contacted said was impossible, he forwarded my case to a supervisor who was able to pay me back the fee from GHash.IO's own funds.

Good luck to you Smiley

Wow, that is really nice.
Though I am not a fan of cex.io and ghash.io, I am pretty impressed to see they are willing to pay you from their own pocket. Smiley


Good luck OP. Smiley
hero member
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Only recourse is to get in tuch with the mining pool operator
Not obligated to refund you, mind
Good luck
hero member
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The Buck Stops Here.
Yes, they are, since mining fees are paid out to miners on Ghash, so yes, they would be taking their money.

There's a lot of room for debate on that one.

Would GHash be taking money that belongs to the miners to pay back btcxchg?

Or would the miners be taking money that belongs to btcxchg if GHash pays them with these funds?

On the one hand you could say that once it is sent, it belongs to the receiver regardless of intent.

On the other hand, some could argue that an accidental payment to an unintended recipient carries a moral, ethical (and possibly? legal) requirement to return the payment to the sender.

In my case with GHash.IO, my transaction fee (about BTC2.6) was distributed to the miners immediately after hitting the block, so instead of retrieving that balance from the miners, which the support person I contacted said was impossible, he forwarded my case to a supervisor who was able to pay me back the fee from GHash.IO's own funds.

Good luck to you Smiley

Great!

How long it happened?


I made my own mistake on Dec. 9th, 2013. So not that long ago.

Ouch that was right before the peak too at a USD equivalent of 900 dollars!
member
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Merit: 10
Hi community,
I have made the worst mistake of my life and I am here asking for help of any kind.

A couple of hours ago I was selling 2.8 bitcoins to a guy and made the mistake in the blockchain.info wallet of fill the fields of bitcoins amount and transaction fee inverted. The result is a transaction of 0.0003 btcs with a fee of 2.8 btcs.

This is the transaction:
https://blockchain.info/es/tx/80477c3a1129cb81bc783d483999b0fa307c3f3398ce5b783475eac36b3bb0e0

GHash.IO found that block, I have the hope they could understand the situation and help me returning some bitcoins.

Those where the savings for live a couple of months.

Any other suggestions?


Thanks a lot


I mine at Ghash and I can see block 299885 with your 2.8BTC added. Regardless of what CEX do (and its a tough scenario for them) post your wallet address and I will send you the 'extra' reward I got from that block. It is a tiny amount for me, but its not mine and your error is genuine and easily done.
newbie
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legendary
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Yes, they are, since mining fees are paid out to miners on Ghash, so yes, they would be taking their money.

There's a lot of room for debate on that one.

Would GHash be taking money that belongs to the miners to pay back btcxchg?

Or would the miners be taking money that belongs to btcxchg if GHash pays them with these funds?

On the one hand you could say that once it is sent, it belongs to the receiver regardless of intent.

On the other hand, some could argue that an accidental payment to an unintended recipient carries a moral, ethical (and possibly? legal) requirement to return the payment to the sender.

In my case with GHash.IO, my transaction fee (about BTC2.6) was distributed to the miners immediately after hitting the block, so instead of retrieving that balance from the miners, which the support person I contacted said was impossible, he forwarded my case to a supervisor who was able to pay me back the fee from GHash.IO's own funds.

Good luck to you Smiley

Great!

How long it happened?


I made my own mistake on Dec. 9th, 2013. So not that long ago.
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
Yes, they are, since mining fees are paid out to miners on Ghash, so yes, they would be taking their money.

There's a lot of room for debate on that one.

Would GHash be taking money that belongs to the miners to pay back btcxchg?

Or would the miners be taking money that belongs to btcxchg if GHash pays them with these funds?

On the one hand you could say that once it is sent, it belongs to the receiver regardless of intent.

On the other hand, some could argue that an accidental payment to an unintended recipient carries a moral, ethical (and possibly? legal) requirement to return the payment to the sender.

In my case with GHash.IO, my transaction fee (about BTC2.6) was distributed to the miners immediately after hitting the block, so instead of retrieving that balance from the miners, which the support person I contacted said was impossible, he forwarded my case to a supervisor who was able to pay me back the fee from GHash.IO's own funds.

Good luck to you Smiley

Great!

How long it happened?
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
Yes, they are, since mining fees are paid out to miners on Ghash, so yes, they would be taking their money.

There's a lot of room for debate on that one.

Would GHash be taking money that belongs to the miners to pay back btcxchg?

Or would the miners be taking money that belongs to btcxchg if GHash pays them with these funds?

On the one hand you could say that once it is sent, it belongs to the receiver regardless of intent.

On the other hand, some could argue that an accidental payment to an unintended recipient carries a moral, ethical (and possibly? legal) requirement to return the payment to the sender.

In my case with GHash.IO, my transaction fee (about BTC2.6) was distributed to the miners immediately after hitting the block, so instead of retrieving that balance from the miners, which the support person I contacted said was impossible, he forwarded my case to a supervisor who was able to pay me back the fee from GHash.IO's own funds.

Good luck to you Smiley
newbie
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I'm the one who that payment was directed to and the owner of that wallet... I'm willing to help the sender as much as I can.. I really hope he can have his coins back, otherwise insert your wallet here for donations and I'll donate 0.01 btc myself.. Im pretty sure you won't have those 2.8 BTC from donations, but certainly you'd feel the community backs you up!

Caio
legendary
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wait 2.8 btc in fee?

Thats so wrong... wtf..

No, you are allowed to change the Transaction fee to whatever you'd like.

@OP hope you can get your coins back.. I've never made that mistake, just read the payment over before Smiley
legendary
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Yes, they are, since mining fees are paid out to miners on Ghash, so yes, they would be taking their money.

There's a lot of room for debate on that one.

Would GHash be taking money that belongs to the miners to pay back btcxchg?

Or would the miners be taking money that belongs to btcxchg if GHash pays them with these funds?

On the one hand you could say that once it is sent, it belongs to the receiver regardless of intent.

On the other hand, some could argue that an accidental payment to an unintended recipient carries a moral, ethical (and possibly? legal) requirement to return the payment to the sender.
hero member
Activity: 798
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There shouldn't be any problems since no one really pays that much in transaction fees  Wink
The problem's that it can't be legitimately collected by GHash. They can't just take away their clients' funds, so they have to pay out of pocket if the OP or GHash can't successfully petition users to refund the fee. It's a bad situation because either the OP's a victim of himself or GHash is a martyr -- or, the OP accepts a partial refund from GHash miners who happened to stumble across (or were directed to) the news and were kind enough to figure out and return their share of the fee.

Well im sure they have something in their terms of service giving them certain discretions.
Besides, they are not "taking away" their clients funds -- that extra 2.8 coins shouldnt
have been in there to begin with.

Yes, they are, since mining fees are paid out to miners on Ghash, so yes, they would be taking their money.
donator
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Gerald Davis
There shouldn't be any problems since no one really pays that much in transaction fees  Wink
The problem's that it can't be legitimately collected by GHash. They can't just take away their clients' funds, so they have to pay out of pocket if the OP or GHash can't successfully petition users to refund the fee. It's a bad situation because either the OP's a victim of himself or GHash is a martyr -- or, the OP accepts a partial refund from GHash miners who happened to stumble across (or were directed to) the news and were kind enough to figure out and return their share of the fee.

They have done it in the past on more than one occasion.  They may have changed their policy, all the OP can really do is ask them.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
There shouldn't be any problems since no one really pays that much in transaction fees  Wink
The problem's that it can't be legitimately collected by GHash. They can't just take away their clients' funds, so they have to pay out of pocket if the OP or GHash can't successfully petition users to refund the fee. It's a bad situation because either the OP's a victim of himself or GHash is a martyr -- or, the OP accepts a partial refund from GHash miners who happened to stumble across (or were directed to) the news and were kind enough to figure out and return their share of the fee.

Well im sure they have something in their terms of service giving them certain discretions.
Besides, they are not "taking away" their clients funds -- that extra 2.8 coins shouldnt
have been in there to begin with.
member
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wait 2.8 btc in fee?

Thats so wrong... wtf..
donator
Activity: 1218
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There shouldn't be any problems since no one really pays that much in transaction fees  Wink
The problem's that it can't be legitimately collected by GHash. They can't just take away their clients' funds, so they have to pay out of pocket if the OP or GHash can't successfully petition users to refund the fee. It's a bad situation because either the OP's a victim of himself or GHash is a martyr -- or, the OP accepts a partial refund from GHash miners who happened to stumble across (or were directed to) the news and were kind enough to figure out and return their share of the fee.
full member
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There shouldn't be any problems since no one really pays that much in transaction fees  Wink
legendary
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I hope you will get the BTC back.  Smiley
And be more careful next time!
legendary
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I do think that you have an extremely good chance of getting your tx fee back Smiley Made the same mistake, and the same pool refunded me.

What a good news!

Now the ticket was forwarded to the CEX.IO supervisor.

Forwarded up the chain, pretty awesome.

I'm curious to see their reaction.

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