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homer
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 06, 2011, 09:03:53 PM
#1578
Quote from: slush on April 06, 2011, 09:02:02 PM
Quote from: homer on April 06, 2011, 08:57:54 PM
Why depend on google though?  

Well... why not? If you're scared that Google will steal your pool credentials, simply block him in AdBlock or similar.

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AWstats is one of many a very good tracking program that you can run locally.

But I don't want to run it locally. I have tens of sites on analytics already, so I just generated yet another javascript code and put it to template; work done under 1 minute.

OK, I will just block with adblock then.  Good idea. Wink
slush
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 06, 2011, 09:02:02 PM
#1577
Quote from: homer on April 06, 2011, 08:57:54 PM
Why depend on google though? 

Well... why not? If you're scared that Google will steal your pool credentials, simply block him in AdBlock or similar.

Quote
AWstats is one of many a very good tracking program that you can run locally.

But I don't want to run it locally. I have tens of sites on analytics already, so I just generated yet another javascript code and put it to template; work done under 1 minute.
homer
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Activity: 21
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 06, 2011, 08:57:54 PM
#1576
Quote from: slush on April 06, 2011, 08:54:16 PM
Quote from: homer on April 06, 2011, 08:52:12 PM
Why do you track users for google?  

Because I'm curious how many people is going to the site?

Why depend on google though?  
AWstats is one of many a very good tracking program that you can run locally.
slush
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Activity: 1386
Merit: 1097
Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 06, 2011, 08:54:16 PM
#1575
Quote from: homer on April 06, 2011, 08:52:12 PM
Why do you track users for google? 

Because I'm curious how many people is going to the site?
homer
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 06, 2011, 08:52:12 PM
#1574
I just signed up on your pool, and dont have problem.
I did notice that you have tracking for google.

In the "My Account" page i see

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(function() {
var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
})();

Why do you track users for google?  
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 06, 2011, 04:18:03 PM
#1573
Quote from: slush on April 06, 2011, 11:37:01 AM
Quote from: allinvain on April 06, 2011, 08:53:08 AM
With your pool is it ok to "log in" or use the same worker login on the same machine? Or do you require that I create different workers for each GPU? I have a Radeon 5970 and naturally it has two GPUs so that's why I'm asking. At the moment I have two separate workers - 1 for each GPU.

You're doing it right - separate workers for every instance, as is mentioned on homepage Wink.

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As a suggestion maybe you can add a FAQ section on your website so stupid questions such as mine can be answered? :p

Yes, I have few points to faq written already, have to finish that and publish Smiley.

Thanks for clearing that up. You know what's funny I've been to your page many times but never scrolled down to the bottom where you mention "Every instance of your miner needs its own worker account!!!"

Silly me. Well thanks for putting up with my newbieness :p

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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 06, 2011, 02:43:36 PM
#1572
Quote from: slush on April 06, 2011, 02:42:07 PM
In connection to recent security issues of other bitcoin application I want to clarify, that pool application does not store paintext password, but hashed passwords with random salt to avoid possible dictionary attacks. Also pool sources are built on technologies which does not allow SQL injection in any form. Finally, the profile page is using techniques against Cross site request forqery attack. It makes impossible to modify (for example) wallet address from malicious javascript. I care about overall pool security a lot.
This is very good to know, thanks!
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 06, 2011, 02:42:07 PM
#1571
In connection to recent security issues of other bitcoin site I want to clarify, that pool application does not store account passwords in paintext, but as hashes with random salt to avoid possible dictionary attacks. Also pool sources are built on technologies which does not allow SQL injection in any form. Finally, the profile page is using techniques against Cross site request forqery attack. It makes impossible to modify (for example) wallet address from malicious javascript. I care about overall pool security a lot.
slush
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 06, 2011, 11:37:01 AM
#1570
Quote from: allinvain on April 06, 2011, 08:53:08 AM
With your pool is it ok to "log in" or use the same worker login on the same machine? Or do you require that I create different workers for each GPU? I have a Radeon 5970 and naturally it has two GPUs so that's why I'm asking. At the moment I have two separate workers - 1 for each GPU.

You're doing it right - separate workers for every instance, as is mentioned on homepage Wink.

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As a suggestion maybe you can add a FAQ section on your website so stupid questions such as mine can be answered? :p

Yes, I have few points to faq written already, have to finish that and publish Smiley.
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 06, 2011, 08:53:08 AM
#1569
slush, I have a quick question. I haven't seen an FAQ section on your page so I thought I'd ask here.

With your pool is it ok to "log in" or use the same worker login on the same machine? Or do you require that I create different workers for each GPU? I have a Radeon 5970 and naturally it has two GPUs so that's why I'm asking. At the moment I have two separate workers - 1 for each GPU.

As a suggestion maybe you can add a FAQ section on your website so stupid questions such as mine can be answered? :p

Cheers!
slush
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 06, 2011, 04:51:21 AM
#1568
Quote from: slush on April 05, 2011, 11:06:49 AM
Quote from: mrjones on April 05, 2011, 10:50:43 AM
What's the situation with blocks such as #2861 in the "Block History" section of the BPM stats page where it shows "Block #" as 0 with an invalid blockexplorer.com link and lists the validity as "Confirmed" immediately?

Is that a real block, or a bug, or something else?  Is the reward for such blocks valid?

Looks like bug, but I never see it before. Now I'm not at home so I marked the block as invalid manually. From blockexplorer it looks like the block is ours, but I have to search logs and see what exactly happen. If block is really ours, I'll mark it as valid and distribute the reward for it, of course.

For some strange reason, the sql command which saves blocknum and block hash to database failed. But block 116884 was succesfully confirmed and is ours, so I fixed block record in database manually and marked it as valid. Reward will be distributed at 10:00 UTC.
Fiyasko
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 05, 2011, 05:19:26 PM
#1567
Yar to all statements aimed at me.
"why i hit stop/start fast"- I was changing the -f command from -f1 to -f150
/facepalm@#ofblockvalidations

And it's heavily prommenient that i've bashed slush unfairly,
Quote from: slush on April 05, 2011, 11:14:43 AM
How is invalid share related to score system? And why are you 'hitting stop and start as fast as humanly fucking possible'? Sorry, I had to miss something here.
I am wondering how it's realted myself...

And what a truely mean isnt that your favoring 24/7 miners, It's that your pool has protection from attacks simmiliar to Raulo's attack wich indirectly causes 24/7 miners to function more fluidly than any on/off miner whom I THINK would get stale shares from when thier miner goes down

Sorry for the blunt english
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 05, 2011, 04:38:13 PM
#1566
Quote from: cdhowie on April 05, 2011, 10:55:26 AM
If you want to script, you already have the information needed to determine the estimated reward from each miner account.  Take the sum of the scores for all your miners.  Then, for each miner, the estimated reward is (estimated_reward * (miner_score / total_score)).

yes, thanks, that will do.
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 05, 2011, 11:18:31 AM
#1565
Quote from: slush on April 05, 2011, 11:06:49 AM
Looks like bug, but I never see it before. Now I'm not at home so I marked the block as invalid manually. From blockexplorer it looks like the block is ours, but I have to search logs and see what exactly happen. If block is really ours, I'll mark it as valid and distribute the reward for it, of course.
Strange indeed.  Thanks for the prompt reply.  Sounds about like my luck; I just start on this and within an hour bugs start popping up.  ;-)

And I have no idea what JackRabiit is talking about, although it sounds like he thinks that block being marked invalid had something to do with him specifically, as a result of him clicking "Stop" and "Start" quickly in succession?
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 05, 2011, 11:16:54 AM
#1564
Quote from: Fiyasko on April 05, 2011, 10:57:58 AM
Aside from that, Fuck slush's pool, Your completely favoring 24/7 miners, i hit stop,start as fast as humanly fucking possible and one of my shares goes completely invaild, After its already gone through 80 of the 120 confirmations

That's now how shares degrade. It's a function based on time, it doesn't matter if you are currently mining or not. Old shares used to be worth as much as new shares, but that allowed for some cheating. You could increase your payout by switching between multiple pools. Now that shares degrade over time, that method is not beneficial.

Why not just run your miner 24/7?
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 05, 2011, 11:14:43 AM
#1563
Quote from: Fiyasko on April 05, 2011, 10:57:58 AM
Your completely favoring 24/7 miners

That's your opinion. Excuse me, but I'm tired by explaining same things again for the same people who don't understand simple graphs.

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i hit stop,start as fast as humanly fucking possible and one of my shares goes completely invaild

How is invalid share related to score system? And why are you 'hitting stop and start as fast as humanly fucking possible'? Sorry, I had to miss something here.

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After its already gone through 80 of the 120 confirmations

Are you talking about block validations? Block is checked after next 90 blocks. If block is invalid, it's marked on stats page. Otherwise the reward is distributed after 100 confirmations.
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 05, 2011, 11:06:49 AM
#1562
Quote from: mrjones on April 05, 2011, 10:50:43 AM
What's the situation with blocks such as #2861 in the "Block History" section of the BPM stats page where it shows "Block #" as 0 with an invalid blockexplorer.com link and lists the validity as "Confirmed" immediately?

Is that a real block, or a bug, or something else?  Is the reward for such blocks valid?

Looks like bug, but I never see it before. Now I'm not at home so I marked the block as invalid manually. From blockexplorer it looks like the block is ours, but I have to search logs and see what exactly happen. If block is really ours, I'll mark it as valid and distribute the reward for it, of course.
Fiyasko
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 05, 2011, 10:57:58 AM
#1561
Yeahhhh im confused....
2861 2011-04-05 15:33:16 0:07:49 17885 0.07731319 -  invalid  
..............................
Aside from that, Fuck slush's pool, Your completely favoring 24/7 miners, i hit stop,start as fast as humanly fucking possible and one of my shares goes completely invaild, After its already gone through 80 of the 120 confirmations
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 05, 2011, 10:55:26 AM
#1560
Quote from: Psychoactive on April 05, 2011, 10:49:37 AM
But then I can't monitor them together. I understand your 'strategy' of not complicating the gui though. What about generating the additional worker's estimated reward column in the webpage and leave it commented, ready to be uncommented for users that want it with a 'pimping' script like dacoinminster's script ?
If you want to script, you already have the information needed to determine the estimated reward from each miner account.  Take the sum of the scores for all your miners.  Then, for each miner, the estimated reward is (estimated_reward * (miner_score / total_score)).
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Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool
April 05, 2011, 10:50:43 AM
#1559
I'm new here, so perhaps this has been answered earlier.  However, I wasn't able to find an answer by searching.  (If the answer is found in another post, if someone could please link to it it would be much appreciated.)

What's the situation with blocks such as #2861 in the "Block History" section of the BPM stats page where it shows "Block #" as 0 with an invalid blockexplorer.com link and lists the validity as "Confirmed" immediately?

Code:
# Block found Duration Total shares Your reward Block # Validity
2861 2011-04-05 15:33:16 0:07:49 17885 0.20570832 0 confirmed

Is that a real block, or a bug, or something else?  Is the reward for such blocks valid?

EDIT: Several minutes after my post (and about 20 minutes after the block first appeared in the list, saying "confirmed" etc.), the validity changed to "invalid."
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