[4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool - page 618.

KNK

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Quote from: ibfr33k on June 27, 2013, 03:00:49 PM

Just curious, does anyone know what the 100% figures really are on the pool luck? As of right now the luck is:
Pool luck (1 day, 7 days, 30 days): 51%, 98%, 95%. And since we found 10 blocks today I can guess that the 1 day luck is finding 20 blocks. Is that correct?

Pool luck 100% mean we find blocks after exactly 'difficulty' shares, so if we have found today 10 block with total of 193392580 shares we are at 100% if we have found 10 blocks with 386785160 shares calculated we are at 50% luck and if found after just 96696290 shares we are at 200%
The same for the weekly and monthly luck:
Luck = shares calculated / blocks found / difficulty * 100
To make it easier to calculate with the difficulty changing from time to time Slush probably calculates the % for each round and then just averages the % for the period i.e.
round luck = shares / difficulty * 100
There is small mistake introduced at each difficulty change, because part of the shares are against the old difficulty, but it can be ignored and not worth the complication of calculations

Trongersoll

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Quote from: Paulizei on June 27, 2013, 03:35:09 PM

Quote from: trasla on June 27, 2013, 03:33:05 PM

As hashrate goes up, block rewards go down
But don't worry baby, don't frown
Cause we'll just find a few more blocks per day
I'll all average out for you, in a way

Dont spend all your time on slush' page hitting "stats"
The lower block reward will make you go nuts
Switch over to graphs, at least for a while
Day earnings quite constant, that will make you smile

Besides, thanks for asking, my post count is fine
I really have plenty of time while i mine
But diff will go up, i guess saturday
And thats what will take our earnings away

hahaha....really excellent!!!

heh, The Miner's Lament

nottm28

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Quote from: Paulizei on June 27, 2013, 03:46:21 PM

Quote from: nottm28 on June 27, 2013, 03:35:49 PM

No Paulizei not aimed at you - no offense - just helps to cut out parts of a quote - like I did with yours

Ok, will try to quote less or shorter. Appreciate your input as I'm quite new writing here and still having my issues with (liverpool) english Wink

[No offense of course, too! Just kidding]

Brilliant - you got it - luckily for you I write in English not scouse

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Quote from: nottm28 on June 27, 2013, 03:35:49 PM

No Paulizei not aimed at you - no offense - just helps to cut out parts of a quote - like I did with yours

Ok, will try to quote less or shorter. Appreciate your input as I'm quite new writing here and still having my issues with (liverpool) english Wink

[No offense of course, too! Just kidding]

nottm28

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Quote from: Paulizei on June 27, 2013, 03:35:09 PM

Quote from: trasla on June 27, 2013, 03:33:05 PM

As hashrate goes up, block rewards go down
But don't worry baby, don't frown
Cause we'll just find a few more blocks per day
I'll all average out for you, in a way

Dont spend all your time on slush' page hitting "stats"
The lower block reward will make you go nuts
Switch over to graphs, at least for a while
Day earnings quite constant, that will make you smile

Besides, thanks for asking, my post count is fine
I really have plenty of time while i mine
But diff will go up, i guess saturday
And thats what will take our earnings away

hahaha....really excellent!!!

You should upload a video of this to youtube and post a link here - great!

nottm28

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Quote from: angryrob on June 27, 2013, 03:36:36 PM

this is not directed at any one person but in general to the @AMD 7870 posts above: I just recently upgraded my gaming rig to 7870 ghz edition (hit a 185$ deal on newegg ~2 weeks ago?) and i run it on win7 latest drivers and I get ~405 Mh/s average just using guiminer, which everyone loves to hate it seems, but it runs fine with latest drivers... so I am happy. I am more of a gamer than a miner tho, so my priorities are skewed.

for people who are more knowledgeable i am wondering: my gpu clock is set at 1100. what kind of Mh/s would I be getting if I did do a driver-downgrade and ran cgminer instead...? would it really be so much higher than the ~405Mh/s that i currently get with guiminer?

We all used to be gamers too before we found mining...

Nah, I think 420 max for your card so 405 is good enough. I have the same card running at 400 and I'm happy with that - don't want it to overheat...

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this is not directed at any one person but in general to the @AMD 7870 posts above: I just recently upgraded my gaming rig to 7870 ghz edition (hit a 185$ deal on newegg ~2 weeks ago?) and i run it on win7 latest drivers and I get ~405 Mh/s average just using guiminer, which everyone loves to hate it seems, but it runs fine with latest drivers... so I am happy. I am more of a gamer than a miner tho, so my priorities are skewed.

for people who are more knowledgeable i am wondering: my gpu clock is set at 1100. what kind of Mh/s would I be getting if I did do a driver-downgrade and ran cgminer instead...? would it really be so much higher than the ~405Mh/s that i currently get with guiminer?

nottm28

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Quote from: Paulizei on June 27, 2013, 03:23:17 PM

Quote from: nottm28 on June 27, 2013, 03:18:49 PM

Note how I have quoted Paulizei without spamming everyone with a massive post just to make a small point

does that mean, that i've quoted too much? sorry, my english is propably too bad to figure out the message between the lines.

i hope this question isn't spamming this thread (again?)

No Paulizei not aimed at you - no offense - just helps to cut out parts of a quote - like I did with yours

Paulizei

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Quote from: trasla on June 27, 2013, 03:33:05 PM

As hashrate goes up, block rewards go down
But don't worry baby, don't frown
Cause we'll just find a few more blocks per day
I'll all average out for you, in a way

Dont spend all your time on slush' page hitting "stats"
The lower block reward will make you go nuts
Switch over to graphs, at least for a while
Day earnings quite constant, that will make you smile

Besides, thanks for asking, my post count is fine
I really have plenty of time while i mine
But diff will go up, i guess saturday
And thats what will take our earnings away

hahaha....really excellent!!!

trasla

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I am running out of ideas how to explain it.
So just listen to me singing :

As hashrate goes up, block rewards go down
But don't worry baby, don't frown
Cause we'll just find a few more blocks per day
I'll all average out for you, in a way

Dont spend all your time on slush' page hitting "stats"
The lower block reward will make you go nuts
Switch over to graphs, at least for a while
Day earnings quite constant, that will make you smile

Besides, thanks for asking, my post count is fine
I really have plenty of time while i mine
But diff will go up, i guess saturday
And thats what will take our earnings away

Paulizei

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my point was really simple and in my opinion not really small: it's very easy to figure out and to complain about decreasing payouts per blocks. but the increase of block frequency and therefore the real earnings per day/week/month(?) are rather hard to figure out.

Paulizei

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Quote from: nottm28 on June 27, 2013, 03:18:49 PM

Note how I have quoted Paulizei without spamming everyone with a massive post just to make a small point

does that mean, that i've quoted too much? sorry, my english is propably too bad to figure out the message between the lines.

i hope this question isn't spamming this thread (again?)

nottm28

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Quote from: Paulizei on June 27, 2013, 03:08:39 PM

agree, too! higher hashrate means lower payout. but it's far more easy to watch your payout then getting some data about block frequency.

Note how I have quoted Paulizei without spamming everyone with a massive post just to make a small point

Paulizei

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Quote from: ibfr33k on June 27, 2013, 03:00:49 PM

Just curious, does anyone know what the 100% figures really are on the pool luck? As of right now the luck is:
Pool luck (1 day, 7 days, 30 days): 51%, 98%, 95%. And since we found 10 blocks today I can guess that the 1 day luck is finding 20 blocks. Is that correct?

I haven't figured out how slush calculates luck at all. sorry. i can't

Quote from: bspurloc on June 27, 2013, 02:59:29 PM

Quote from: trasla on June 27, 2013, 02:45:43 PM

Quote from: bspurloc on June 27, 2013, 02:35:44 PM

shame on you for saying Slush is 20th/s!!!!! it was bad enough at 18th/s now 19.8th/s grrr I dont want to buy another card to make up for these 1th/s increases!!!

If you really believe a higher Pool hashrate will lower your earnings, switch to a smaller pool or mine solo for maximum income! :-P

how is your post count doing?

No of course it doesn't.
every 1th/s increase/decrease in slush pool creates a decrease in my block amount. It is just a fact.
pool is at 19th/s now and my blocks are less
against 18th/s I am .005ish against 19th/s I have .004ish against 17t/hs I am .006ish
But u r right of course the pool hashrate has nothing to do with it...
After that 1st pool interrupt this week and the hashrate dropped back to 17th/s I wasnt getting .006ish a block AGAIN, when the hashrate got back up to 18th/s my blocks didnt drop to .005ish cuz it has nothing to do with the pool hashrate...
now with the pool at 19th/s my blocks are .004ish, but it has nothing to do with the pool hashrate....
For the past 2 months while I have chased this adding a 500mh/s miner it hasnt brought me back up to speed according to you.

u r right what I just said above is all a lie. how is your post count doing?

agree, too! higher hashrate means lower payout. but it's far more easy to watch your payout then getting some data about block frequency.

Paulizei

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Quote from: trasla on June 27, 2013, 02:45:43 PM

Quote from: bspurloc on June 27, 2013, 02:35:44 PM

shame on you for saying Slush is 20th/s!!!!! it was bad enough at 18th/s now 19.8th/s grrr I dont want to buy another card to make up for these 1th/s increases!!!

If you really believe a higher Pool hashrate will lower your earnings, switch to a smaller pool or mine solo for maximum income! :-P

agree! the longer i think about it, the less i understand why a lower hashrate should increase my income. it's all about diff and at least for me -with some very slow miners- variance. that's it...

ibfr33k

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Just curious, does anyone know what the 100% figures really are on the pool luck? As of right now the luck is:
Pool luck (1 day, 7 days, 30 days): 51%, 98%, 95%. And since we found 10 blocks today I can guess that the 1 day luck is finding 20 blocks. Is that correct?

bspurloc

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Quote from: trasla on June 27, 2013, 02:45:43 PM

Quote from: bspurloc on June 27, 2013, 02:35:44 PM

shame on you for saying Slush is 20th/s!!!!! it was bad enough at 18th/s now 19.8th/s grrr I dont want to buy another card to make up for these 1th/s increases!!!

If you really believe a higher Pool hashrate will lower your earnings, switch to a smaller pool or mine solo for maximum income! :-P

how is your post count doing?

No of course it doesn't.
every 1th/s increase/decrease in slush pool creates a decrease in my block amount. It is just a fact.
pool is at 19th/s now and my blocks are less
against 18th/s I am .005ish against 19th/s I have .004ish against 17t/hs I am .006ish
But u r right of course the pool hashrate has nothing to do with it...
After that 1st pool interrupt this week and the hashrate dropped back to 17th/s I wasnt getting .006ish a block AGAIN, when the hashrate got back up to 18th/s my blocks didnt drop to .005ish cuz it has nothing to do with the pool hashrate...
now with the pool at 19th/s my blocks are .004ish, but it has nothing to do with the pool hashrate....
For the past 2 months while I have chased this adding a 500mh/s miner it hasnt brought me back up to speed according to you.

u r right what I just said above is all a lie. how is your post count doing?

trasla

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Quote from: bspurloc on June 27, 2013, 02:35:44 PM

shame on you for saying Slush is 20th/s!!!!! it was bad enough at 18th/s now 19.8th/s grrr I dont want to buy another card to make up for these 1th/s increases!!!

If you really believe a higher Pool hashrate will lower your earnings, switch to a smaller pool or mine solo for maximum income! :-P

bspurloc

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Quote from: n0creativity on June 27, 2013, 02:26:57 PM

Quote from: Kruncha on June 27, 2013, 11:43:14 AM

Quote from: n0creativity on June 27, 2013, 11:38:12 AM

Quote from: gourmet on June 27, 2013, 11:02:00 AM

Quote from: Trongersoll on June 27, 2013, 10:58:50 AM

when are we do for another difficulty change? Huh

On Saturday afternoon most probably.

Network hashrate dropped significantly today and average between blocks is back up to 9.5 minutes or so. I guess I would be surprised if the diff went up on Sat, but what do I know.

You have a good analytical mind - don't put yourself down,

K.

Of course now the network hashrate is climbing again (it was 140,000 GH/s earlier and now 160,000 GH/s) and time between blocks is down to almost 8.5 minutes. I am curious about the large fluctuations in the total network hashrate. I mean 20,000 GH/s is the size of Slush's entire pool, how does that much compute power come and go so quickly? Its like someone with 40 BFL Mini Rigs is dropping in and out of the network. If I was in charge of $900,000 worth of equipment that generates sooo much that a few seconds down can cost $1000s or $10,000s of dollars, I would make sure as
#!&| that the systems didnt go down.

shame on you for saying Slush is 20th/s!!!!! it was bad enough at 18th/s now 19.8th/s grrr I dont want to buy another card to make up for these 1th/s increases!!!

bspurloc

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Quote from: RangerK on June 26, 2013, 06:14:32 PM

Quote from: n0creativity on June 26, 2013, 11:18:35 AM

or just a couple of Sapphire 7870 GHz editions (each card = $215 each @ 410-425 MH/s)
Link: http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-DL-DVI-I-SL-DVI-D-PCI-Express-100354OC-2L/dp/B00A2J4ROE/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372263403&sr=8-1&keywords=7870+GHz

Hmmm. I'm only getting 350 - 380 out of mine. Though I haven't tried all those scary options in the BIOS -- sending extra power to the cards and stuff like that.

You are probably using the 13.4 drivers too... a 7870 should be able to hit 400 easily.
Dont go higher than 13.1 drivers...
However if you did install the 13.4's UNINSTALLING them and using the Clean up utility dont work they leave remnants behind.
You have to physically go delete them or all installers below 13.4 will blue screen on detection.

delete all these in the windows directory including opencl.*
system32(amdocl_as64.exe, amdocl_ld64.exe, amdocl64.dll, OpenCL.dll)
syswow64(amdocl_as32.exe, amdocl_ld32.exe, amdocl.dll, OpenCL.dll)

If the installer blue screens on detect you missed a file.

ALSO Install GPUZ as people here dont seem to understand the 7870's have this little feature if you lower the memory too much aka like 200 below the GPU speed it throws the Memory to their default which u dont want.
Lowest I can get memory to on my 7870's is 1005 or they default it back to 1200 GPUZ will show you this.
Pretty sure the card is doing it as my 7870xt's I can get memory down too 1020 with gpu at 1200 any lower bam back to 1500 for memory

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