433 Winners to split $4,015,156.265 6/55 Grand Lotto Jackpot

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 04, 2022, 02:22:50 AM

Someone already made a thread about exactly this news. Obviously its a manipulated lottery. There is no way there could have been that many winners. The chance of winning is about 1 in 29 million. And then we have 433 winners? Cmon.

They should look at the 433 winner network and analyse what and who they are connected to. I think they could find the culprit(s) responsible for the obvious scam.

But who knows, maybe all those people won because of some miraculous event that happens once in the entire lifetime of the human species? Nah. I still remain suspicious. I think there is definitely something fishy going on here.

Never believe on miracle since in history of lottery this event didn't happen. The odds is so low that's why its really hard to digest what they are announcing and for having 433 winners this will create an assumption that govern bodies handle the PCSO is corrupt. They are been bashed and show some people claiming but still it didn't justified anything because still people doubt about the result.

You cant really avoid on not to have those doubts considering the odds or chance on winning a lottery or make out those combinations isnt something that you could really able to hit even once in a lifetime.
We arent that dumb not to know the odds on hitting up jackpot which is usually we do really see one or two winners for jackpots and now we do see even hundreds which would really be that normal
that it would really be creating some buzz on why the heck this thing do happen? If there are people who do claim then we arent even sure if those people are legit winners
or just simply being dummied out just to make things looks legit but well its their problem to handle out though. Cheesy

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Quote from: sunsilk on October 04, 2022, 05:08:30 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on October 04, 2022, 04:39:36 PM

I read that half or more than half of the winners have claim their prices already from the PCSO.

So that it mean that the other half is the one that has cheated or it could be someone behind those other half that they still get the prize winners because it has make so much noise right now in Philippines that even their Senate wanted to step and investigate the matter?

There's a threshold on how long they should claim their prizes and that means that the others haven't arrived yet. I don't want to think that they're cheaters because they haven't claimed yet.

Looking at some information, they're coming from different parts of the country and that's why they haven't come to claim it. Thinking of someone is behind of it, there's really a possibility that it's likely a trick or what.

But, they can't do anything anymore if most of the money prizes are claimed already and the claimants or winners have already spent it.

If all those claimants provides the winning tickets, there's nothing they can do now, unless there's a case or proven case of manipulation which will take time before it can be proven, like what you said those who claimed already are using the money and for those who ain't getting their money yet, there's a time for them to claim their winning amount and even it supposedly a once in a million opportunities if fate played on you there's nothing you can do.

Enjoy the money and try to use it for the betterment of your life, either plan for a business or look for passive secure investment.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 04, 2022, 04:39:36 PM

I read that half or more than half of the winners have claim their prices already from the PCSO.

So that it mean that the other half is the one that has cheated or it could be someone behind those other half that they still get the prize winners because it has make so much noise right now in Philippines that even their Senate wanted to step and investigate the matter?

There's a threshold on how long they should claim their prizes and that means that the others haven't arrived yet. I don't want to think that they're cheaters because they haven't claimed yet.

Looking at some information, they're coming from different parts of the country and that's why they haven't come to claim it. Thinking of someone is behind of it, there's really a possibility that it's likely a trick or what.

But, they can't do anything anymore if most of the money prizes are claimed already and the claimants or winners have already spent it.

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I read that half or more than half of the winners have claim their prices already from the PCSO.

So that it mean that the other half is the one that has cheated or it could be someone behind those other half that they still get the prize winners because it has make so much noise right now in Philippines that even their Senate wanted to step and investigate the matter?

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1 in 29 million is the odds that one winner will get the number. You have to raise that again to 433 since there are 433 winners. That is 1 out of 1 followed by 1224 zeroes that 433 people will win a 6/55 lottery.

yeah, I guess you are right, but knowing how pattern/pretty numbers are popular when it comes to the lottery It is not surprising(or at least me) that there are a lot of people who won. I am also not against them doing an investigation but I doubt they'll find something suspicious.

Is there any ounce of possibility that this can be rigged? Though the pattern combination of the lotto numbers were all divisible by 9, this somehow can potentially happen especially if some people stick to a designated pattern of betting numbers. It just so happened that the numbers that fell were all divisible by 9.

Again, the chances of this happening is just significantly and statistically low but the odds are the odds! No matter how low the chances of winning are, the fact that there is that "chance" of winning does not discount the possibility of the impossible happening.

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Quote from: jakelyson on October 04, 2022, 03:03:48 AM

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1 in 29 million is the odds that one winner will get the number. You have to raise that again to 433 since there are 433 winners. That is 1 out of 1 followed by 1224 zeroes that 433 people will win a 6/55 lottery.

yeah, I guess you are right, but knowing how pattern/pretty numbers are popular when it comes to the lottery It is not surprising(or at least me) that there are a lot of people who won. I am also not against them doing an investigation but I doubt they'll find something suspicious.

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Quote from: Botnake on October 02, 2022, 07:42:58 AM

This is the first time, probably this will be put in the guinness world record.

I believe there are irregularities here, it could be manipulated, and it's nice to know that some senators from the Philippines wants a probe on this one.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1673977/minority-senators-seek-probe-on-extraordinary-grand-lotto-draw

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MANILA, Philippines — Minority senators are seeking an investigation into the “extraordinary” Grand Lotto draw where 433 bettors all got the winning combination for the ₱236 million jackpot.

Senate Minority Leader Aquilino “Koko” Pimentel III and Senator Risa Hontiveros on Sunday said a Senate resolution is needed to allay suspicion of irregularity in the results of the lottery that is managed by the Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO).

Oh, this will be good.
I didn't know that they do care. Because before no one or no government official went forward to look deep into what is happening in this lotto service in the Phillipines. This is not even a new case, they just don't care or maybe other officials are part of the irregularities that's why they don't investigate.
Why should it take a big issue like this for them to move?
If they are found guilty about it, how about those old players who had been betting all their life? Will the unfairness be paid or will they just straighten it out?

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Damn, that's a lot of people who all picked the same winning numbers. Imagine you finally win the lottery after playing for 40 years, only to share your money with 433 other people. Maybe there were some tipping groups who all picked the same numbers, but this can't explain all of winners. There is already another thread here on the forum talking about the winning numbers all being divisible by 9. I don't think that the numbers alone are evidence for scam. To me the numbers still seem random, the high number of lottery winner is what concerns me the most. Maybe there is some form of connection between the winners. Also there seems to be high number of second and third prize winners. Sad for the gamblers who picked the right numbers on their own and won legitimately.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 04, 2022, 07:28:24 AM

As someone said, it's around $10k each so that is a huge amount of money for each winner. And so if there is a investigation, it might take months or even years to claim their money. So it will not be far for the honest one. So It's better to give the prize money first in my opinion.

They are now claiming the prize and the agency is releasing it despite of that possible investigation because they believe nothing wrong with the result, it’s just that they have to prove it or else their officials will face consequences. It’s normal for people to doubt the result, that’s a lot of winners and the probability is very low as per analyst.

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Actually this news is widely spreading after the news announce the number of winners for me this is super odd imagine you are 433 participants who will share the large amount of money and it seems like if you see it is really possible that 433 people make a huge amount of profit, most likely the news regarding with the lotto jackpot tells just about 1-5 participants who share but still congrats to those winners even though they share a large number still those money can really help them in the future.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 04, 2022, 02:22:50 AM

Someone already made a thread about exactly this news. Obviously its a manipulated lottery. There is no way there could have been that many winners. The chance of winning is about 1 in 29 million. And then we have 433 winners? Cmon.

They should look at the 433 winner network and analyse what and who they are connected to. I think they could find the culprit(s) responsible for the obvious scam.

But who knows, maybe all those people won because of some miraculous event that happens once in the entire lifetime of the human species? Nah. I still remain suspicious. I think there is definitely something fishy going on here.

Never believe on miracle since in history of lottery this event didn't happen. The odds is so low that's why its really hard to digest what they are announcing and for having 433 winners this will create an assumption that govern bodies handle the PCSO is corrupt. They are been bashed and show some people claiming but still it didn't justified anything because still people doubt about the result.

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Quote from: samcrypto on October 04, 2022, 03:57:35 AM

Quote from: acroman08 on October 04, 2022, 12:58:24 AM

Quote from: Road21Bitcoin on October 02, 2022, 05:54:32 AM

Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds? Roll Eyes

with that eye-roll, it seems like you are being sarcastic when you say "the winners defied the odds?". anyway, despite me thinking that there was no manipulation, I think an investigation should be done to prove no manipulation happened but knowing how Filipinos react to this kind of situation, they won't believe it(or at least the majority) if it was proven no manipulation happened.

Investigation can help, but knowing the government I’m sure it will just a waste of time.

Yes, I don't think that they will find something concrete here, and if I'm not mistaken, PCSO has existed for many years so it's very hard to proved something.

Quote from: samcrypto on October 04, 2022, 03:57:35 AM

There’s a lot of issues going on with our government right now, It’s sad but hopefully those winners are real and let’s just be happy for them, as long as all the winners will get their reward. Now this can be a proof that more winners are possible with Lottery, despite of the doubt about the system.

As someone said, it's around $10k each so that is a huge amount of money for each winner. And so if there is a investigation, it might take months or even years to claim their money. So it will not be far for the honest one. So It's better to give the prize money first in my opinion.

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Quote from: jakelyson on October 04, 2022, 03:03:48 AM

Quote from: acroman08 on October 04, 2022, 02:37:34 AM

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 04, 2022, 02:22:50 AM

Someone already made a thread about exactly this news. Obviously its a manipulated lottery. There is no way there could have been that many winners. The chance of winning is about 1 in 29 million. And then we have 433 winners? Cmon.

They should look at the 433 winner network and analyse what and who they are connected to. I think they could find the culprit(s) responsible for the obvious scam.

But who knows, maybe all those people won because of some miraculous event that happens once in the entire lifetime of the human species? Nah. I still remain suspicious. I think there is definitely something fishy going on here.

I am not invalidating your suspicion and as I said before I think an investigation should still be done since a lot of people are suspicious about the result, but come on, how was it impossible to have that many winners? even if you say that the chance of winning is 1 in 29 million it still doesn't change the fact that those people chose the same number, which means all of them had the chance of winning with the same odds of 1 in 29 million which means having that many winners are not impossible.

1 in 29 million is the odds that one winner will get the number. You have to raise that again to 433 since there are 433 winners. That is 1 out of 1 followed by 1224 zeroes that 433 people will win a 6/55 lottery.

I agree with goldkingcoiner that they should investigate the network of the winners and find out if there are really manipulation happening in PCSO.

I believe there are honest winners out there but that would only be just a handful.

Thank you for adding that. Yes, I meant the 1 in 29 million chance of winning is the probability for one single person. The probability of 433 people winning at the same time is astronomically low and should not even be considered as realistic. But that being said, a single person winning the lottery on the same day as some other 10 people who also won the lottery is so extremely low its out of the realm of possible. 433 is a criminally suspicious number. So suspicious that its basically mathematical evidence that the lottery was indeed rigged.

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that would be at least 10 thousand dollars or more each of them? isn't the first time that a jackpot winners numbered as 433?

though it is good to see so much to get wins while mostly it was only split in 2-4 people but this is too small to be called a jackpot winner Grin

But also having thought of this as manipulated situation .

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Quote from: samcrypto on October 04, 2022, 03:57:35 AM

Quote from: acroman08 on October 04, 2022, 12:58:24 AM

Quote from: Road21Bitcoin on October 02, 2022, 05:54:32 AM

Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds? Roll Eyes

with that eye-roll, it seems like you are being sarcastic when you say "the winners defied the odds?". anyway, despite me thinking that there was no manipulation, I think an investigation should be done to prove no manipulation happened but knowing how Filipinos react to this kind of situation, they won't believe it(or at least the majority) if it was proven no manipulation happened.

Investigation can help, but knowing the government I’m sure it will just a waste of time.
There’s a lot of issues going on with our government right now, It’s sad but hopefully those winners are real and let’s just be happy for them, as long as all the winners will get their reward. Now this can be a proof that more winners are possible with Lottery, despite of the doubt about the system.

I'm with in this opinion, with a lot of issue right now, the senate is needed to prioritize what is more important instead of using
long time in investigating this issue.

Though I'm sure there are winners that are surely disappointed since winning a jackpot is a once in a lifetime opportunity,
and sharing it with that huge number of winners gives you a smaller amount of winning of money.

500K might be a good consolation and far better than nothing. If what happens is for real, there's nothing else that winners
can do now.

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Quote from: acroman08 on October 04, 2022, 12:58:24 AM

Quote from: Road21Bitcoin on October 02, 2022, 05:54:32 AM

Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds? Roll Eyes

with that eye-roll, it seems like you are being sarcastic when you say "the winners defied the odds?". anyway, despite me thinking that there was no manipulation, I think an investigation should be done to prove no manipulation happened but knowing how Filipinos react to this kind of situation, they won't believe it(or at least the majority) if it was proven no manipulation happened.

Investigation can help, but knowing the government I’m sure it will just a waste of time.
There’s a lot of issues going on with our government right now, It’s sad but hopefully those winners are real and let’s just be happy for them, as long as all the winners will get their reward. Now this can be a proof that more winners are possible with Lottery, despite of the doubt about the system.

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Quote from: acroman08 on October 04, 2022, 02:37:34 AM

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 04, 2022, 02:22:50 AM

Someone already made a thread about exactly this news. Obviously its a manipulated lottery. There is no way there could have been that many winners. The chance of winning is about 1 in 29 million. And then we have 433 winners? Cmon.

They should look at the 433 winner network and analyse what and who they are connected to. I think they could find the culprit(s) responsible for the obvious scam.

But who knows, maybe all those people won because of some miraculous event that happens once in the entire lifetime of the human species? Nah. I still remain suspicious. I think there is definitely something fishy going on here.

I am not invalidating your suspicion and as I said before I think an investigation should still be done since a lot of people are suspicious about the result, but come on, how was it impossible to have that many winners? even if you say that the chance of winning is 1 in 29 million it still doesn't change the fact that those people chose the same number, which means all of them had the chance of winning with the same odds of 1 in 29 million which means having that many winners are not impossible.

1 in 29 million is the odds that one winner will get the number. You have to raise that again to 433 since there are 433 winners. That is 1 out of 1 followed by 1224 zeroes that 433 people will win a 6/55 lottery.

I agree with goldkingcoiner that they should investigate the network of the winners and find out if there are really manipulation happening in PCSO.

I believe there are honest winners out there but that would only be just a handful.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 04, 2022, 02:22:50 AM

Someone already made a thread about exactly this news. Obviously its a manipulated lottery. There is no way there could have been that many winners. The chance of winning is about 1 in 29 million. And then we have 433 winners? Cmon.

They should look at the 433 winner network and analyse what and who they are connected to. I think they could find the culprit(s) responsible for the obvious scam.

But who knows, maybe all those people won because of some miraculous event that happens once in the entire lifetime of the human species? Nah. I still remain suspicious. I think there is definitely something fishy going on here.

I am not invalidating your suspicion and as I said before I think an investigation should still be done since a lot of people are suspicious about the result, but come on, how was it impossible to have that many winners? even if you say that the chance of winning is 1 in 29 million it still doesn't change the fact that those people chose the same number, which means all of them had the chance of winning with the same odds of 1 in 29 million which means having that many winners are not impossible.

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Someone already made a thread about exactly this news. Obviously its a manipulated lottery. There is no way there could have been that many winners. The chance of winning is about 1 in 29 million. And then we have 433 winners? Cmon.

They should look at the 433 winner network and analyse what and who they are connected to. I think they could find the culprit(s) responsible for the obvious scam.

But who knows, maybe all those people won because of some miraculous event that happens once in the entire lifetime of the human species? Nah. I still remain suspicious. I think there is definitely something fishy going on here.

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Come to think of it the first prize reached 233 million but what if this draw happens after the last jackpot was hit, the starting pot is 27 million so there will be getting less than 50,000 after the tax deduction, they are still lucky that this happens when the jackpot reached 233 million so each one of them will be getting 500k still big money in the Philippines still a blessing with millions of people betting in a lottery a jackpot is still a jackpot and this time of crisis its a big help.

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