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Topic: 433 Winners to split $4,015,156.265 6/55 Grand Lotto Jackpot - page 2. (Read 453 times)

legendary
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Main reason why winners are like 433 is obvious. It goes like 9 and 2x9 and 3x9... I am sure many people were trying same combination every week for years! But its really sad as you can see, you may feel like you won a million dollar but after your prize you'll see its not good idea to play with the most guessed combinations. Awkward combinations are generally guessed by 1-2 people so prize is lot more than this.
legendary
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Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds?  Roll Eyes
with that eye-roll, it seems like you are being sarcastic when you say "the winners defied the odds?". anyway, despite me thinking that there was no manipulation, I think an investigation should be done to prove no manipulation happened but knowing how Filipinos react to this kind of situation, they won't believe it(or at least the majority) if it was proven no manipulation happened.
legendary
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Jackpot Prize: $4,015,156.265

The Winning Combination is 9, 18, 27, 36, 45, 54 (it's divisible by 9)

58.80 Pesos equivalent to $1

433 Winners

The winners will receive $9,272.878 each (not including the tax)


Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds?  Roll Eyes
This reminds me of a film starring Jim Carey (forgot the title of the film) everyone wins by a very small amount  Smiley
but this is much greater, it's just that it's definitely not what is expected because when talking about the jackpot there will only be 1 winner.
However with the Philippines economy, isn't the value obtained quite large? So those who get it will be happy with it.
Investigations must do if this is the first time happened and there may be manipulation of the winners
legendary
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433 Winners

The winners will receive $9,272.878 each (not including the tax)


Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds?  Roll Eyes

I don't know and can't know if the result has been manipulated, but even if it is statistically curious, it is perfectly probable.

What I am happy about is that the prize is distributed among so many people, especially in a country like the Philippines. That 433 people will receive between 7 and 8 million $ after taxes, in their local currency, is much better than the prize going to just one person. With so many people, as well as spreading the wealth of the jackpot more evenly, it is more likely that the money will be put to good use, even if there are some who squander it.
full member
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There's also a story of one bettor who bet the same numbers for the last ten years and he is disappointed because he has to share the winnings with 433 bettors, even the managers of the lotto agency is at a loss on what happened to the draw, but he already assured everybody that the drawing is clean and beyond reasonable doubt and they are open to investigation, this is one for the record and can be considered in the Guinness book of world record.
hero member
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As everyone might have expressed above ... we are all agree that math never lies , human nature do . Sorry to say that most asians i have ever met had a very strong corrupt mentality ( no offense intended ) just my personal experience and this might caused by that.

This strory waaaay too makes no sense but a real life troll, period.

I don't know why PCSO didn't even think that there will really be a criticism once they released the 433 winners.

Even if that's really legit, it's really hard to accept it in any way. The jackpot is so huge that makes me think that they don't want that money to end up in 1 or 2 winners that's why they take advantage of it.
I have doubt as well if these 433 winners are real and not an agenda of the people behind to get a portion of the prize. There are winners already who showed their tickets to prove that they're really legit however many winners are still not showing up.  If im not mistaken this is the first time in PH history to have such number of winners. Lottery is a game of chance we know it's also possible to happen, but they must prove that no irregularity happened by showing the tickets of all the winners.
hero member
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There are winners who already claimed their money at the PCSO office.

They are showing their tickets to the media to prove they are really legit.

But I think it's only less than 10 who already claimed there. Let's wait for that 433 in a 1-year span. Cheesy
I do believe that it would really be just good for 1 week span for those prizes to be claimed.Basing up on calculations even its been split 433 times then it would be still a life changing amount for those people who do
live on 3rd world countries or developing ones.Its better rather than having nothing at all and considering on whats the ticket price then this is something that you would be thriving it get it as much as possible.
This is really an unusual kind of events or something that doesnt happen in a long time specially on a lottery which is mostly be won by 1 or 2 people on every draw or it does takes long.
Considering the odds on hitting up a jackpot then it is really hard to believe on how many had able to do that.
legendary
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As everyone might have expressed above ... we are all agree that math never lies , human nature do . Sorry to say that most asians i have ever met had a very strong corrupt mentality ( no offense intended ) just my personal experience and this might caused by that.

This strory waaaay too makes no sense but a real life troll, period.

I don't know why PCSO didn't even think that there will really be a criticism once they released the 433 winners.

Even if that's really legit, it's really hard to accept it in any way. The jackpot is so huge that makes me think that they don't want that money to end up in 1 or 2 winners that's why they take advantage of it.
legendary
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There are winners who already claimed their money at the PCSO office.

They are showing their tickets to the media to prove they are really legit.

But I think it's only less than 10 who already claimed there. Let's wait for that 433 in a 1-year span. Cheesy
legendary
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As everyone might have expressed above ... we are all agree that math never lies , human nature do . Sorry to say that most asians i have ever met had a very strong corrupt mentality ( no offense intended ) just my personal experience and this might caused by that.

This strory waaaay too makes no sense but a real life troll, period.
legendary
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I don't mind if that lucky 9 hits the winning jackpot combination. Even though it's almost close to impossible that the result was skip counting by 9, we can't do anything if that really the result. What I was surprised by is the number of jackpot winners which really makes me think that there's a fraud there.

Maybe they want to split that big prize for more in favor of them but in reality, there might be only 1-2 winners.

It's even more difficult to have up to 2 winners for every jackpot and here, a whooping 433 winners. Shocked
legendary
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To difficult to understand why such thing happen while in the odds to win in lottery is so low and there's more higher chance that we get hit by lightning than winning the jackpot. So I guess what's happening there is pure manipulation and there's someone doing some nasty action there.

Government should do investigation towards that incident since most likely having 433 winners is something impossible to happen.
hero member
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Anyway, let's hope that a substantial chunk of ticket revenue goes towards charity causes as well.

The Philippine National Lottery is being run by PCSO and it's a government agency and a big chunk o the profit goes to charity
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The PCSO is mandated to set aside 30 percent of its revenue for charity, 55 percent for prizes, and 15 percent for its operation. All balances of any funds in the PCSO will form part of the charity fund.
it sustains the poor sectors and those who need financial and medical needs, majority of the people support the lottery because one time or many times their relatives or themselves have asked for help from this agency, I would never want this lottery stop, but they should get rid of corruptions if there's any.
sr. member
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What's with the eye roll? Looks like you are leaning towards manipulation with that kind of reaction.

The thing is that it's hard to prove something went wrong by just crunching the numbers that are available. I mean being divisible by 9 is not enough evidence. I bet out of millions buying tickets that there are also hundreds using numbers divisible by five or four.
For me who lives in the same country where this happened, I think the eye roll which signifies manipulation of the lottery draw is appropriate. Other than the lottery numbers drawn which are divisible by 9, the amount of winners is also suspicious as that amount is nearly impossible to happen. You can try to check all supporting computations on how much this is impossible to happen from all the probabilities and statics majors.
Sure you can play with all the numbers you want but you still cannot rule out the possibility that few individuals pick numbers "playfully". How many tickets were bought for that draw? I bet it's in millions.

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Also, Even the government is eyeing to check on the legitimacy of the result.
Are you referring to the Senate investigation that was posted in the first page? I highly doubt their "expertise" when it comes to finding out any manipulation in this. They are probably just riding the hype and finish the "checking" without any real result.
hero member
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Honestly I wish the US had splits like that.  Usually it's only won by or in some cases a coue people.  No need to have someone win $billion all on theor own.  20 people winning $50million each still changes theor lives and touches more people.  Was always supportive of more winners. 
Thats personal preference and liking but we do know on how lottery works which would really be needing that extreme luck for you to hit up and lets just accept if there are sole winners of the said jackpot.

We cant really hold off on what would gonna happen but on this one then it is truly that mind boggling or having questions on what the heck do happen on why there are lots of winners

considering that number combinations cant really be that possible on having those hundreds of bettors hitting on the same combination.I do agree that this might be rigged.
legendary
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Honestly I wish the US had splits like that.  Usually it's only won by or in some cases a coue people.  No need to have someone win $billion all on theor own.  20 people winning $50million each still changes theor lives and touches more people.  Was always supportive of more winners. 
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Is this the most winning lottery of all time? I can't find any in google so maybe this is a record breaking.
There's a lot of issues with our lottery system and even the legislator are doubting about the result of this lottery, now they want to investigate this. Though the PCSO are very confident that the data is correct and the winners can start claiming their reward. This might look impossible, but with our current corrupt system everything is possible.  Cheesy

Investigating things like this is non sense. 1-3 winners or 433 will not have any difference all the money goes to the winners even if this is manipulated or not. There are more things to do in the government than waste the time investigating a corrupt system.

Its odd but if the lottery system manipulates it to have more winners regularly, what else can be done? People will be happy and don't they want people to be happy? $9,272.878 each is not so bad. 
The problem here, they can hire people just to pretend he won the lottery and it can happen as well even on a single winner with a huge amount of reward, this is why many loses their trust to this agency because of the corruption. Investigating this wont be a waste of time if the government really want to clean the agency and free from corruption, this can also a way to regain the trust of the public and to kill the issue of corruption.
legendary
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Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds?  Roll Eyes

Anyone can speculate of the possible rig but the problem is how to prove it.  Besides there is also a government representative during the draw so basically this representative would be the witness of fair lotto draw unless this person is charged of corruption of colluding with the PCSO of rigging the result.

Of course, it is possible to have that kind of combination.  I wonder, they don't question when the lottery agency draws a winning number and no one win, then they questioned the result when lots of people win the grand jackpot.  If they are suspicious about it, why not investigate the people who happen to have the winning ticket?  After all, if the machine and balls are rigged, they probably had it fixed already.

legendary
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Source: https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/10/01/22/433-winners-to-split-p236m-655-grand-lotto-jackpot

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Jackpot Prize: $4,015,156.265

The Winning Combination is 9, 18, 27, 36, 45, 54 (it's divisible by 9)

58.80 Pesos equivalent to $1

433 Winners

The winners will receive $9,272.878 each (not including the tax)

Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds?  Roll Eyes

Maybe I'm being a bit pessimistic, but that seems like a relatively low amount to win when you consider you had to pick 6 numbers. I might be rather disappointed when finding out there was a $4 million jackpot but it ended up getting split among so many people that it was diluted so far down. I guess it can still go a rather long way in the Phillipines and if you consider the cost to enter then you're still up a massive amount. It makes me wonder how many other people follow similar patterns, like multiples of ten, when participating in these lotteries on a regular basis. Anyway, let's hope that a substantial chunk of ticket revenue goes towards charity causes as well.
legendary
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but based on what I've read, it's not really impossible to have that huge numbers but what is rarer and mind-boggling are all the number combinations when you add it up ended n number 9
It's not really impossible to have such number of winners since most people participate to this kind of lottery have their own number patterns, analysis and etc. The winning result is just pure coincidence that is divisible by 9.

The senate hearing like i said will be a waste of time, PCSO will just show them the copy of all winning tickets, or those 433 will testified, and last sort is showing the machine or software used for generating random number result.

If there is cheating happened the questions are, why just now?
If not, so all the jackpot winners in the past were all fixed? If those were all fixed we should see a pattern of winners, like most of them have family related to PCSO, government, etc. but its not. I'll say it again, this is just pure coincidence.

Perhaps because it did make a lot of noise in public that even the Senate want to see if there is no cheating or not.

It's not about the previous winners, it's about the current results because we are questioning it this is just a coincidence or not.  It really looks suspicious in the beginning, but for me, this is just might be what we call betting behaviors, wherein we  bet on numbers that we usually do for many years. And it just so happen that you can just write in a straight line those numbers as easy as that and then hit the winner numbers. So again this is possible and as you have said, just pure coincidence.
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