saw this in my inbox...
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For a limited time we will be running a Flash Sale at Canaan.io. To keep things simple EVERY miner will be offered at the same price, from the Avalon 921 @ 20 terahash to the Avalon 851 @ 14.5 Terahash. Every Miner is $200 USD until the end of the Flash sale.
In addition, you all should check out our new firmware that reduces power consumption to .085 J/GH.
Here is the download link: https://build.canaan-creative.com/~wangxiaochuan/A841/openwrt/20181123/rpi3-modelb/openwrt-brcm2708-bcm2710-rpi-3-ext4-sdcard.img
If you are interested in the Flash sale please write to
[email protected] and copy [email protected] as well
Thanks
Steve
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Topic: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. - page 28. (Read 81547 times)
November 30, 2018, 07:46:08 AM
November 30, 2018, 06:46:26 AM
Well if you bought some property to house miners back in 2016 then you should have seen a nice 20-100% gain in value in most parts of the US. 20% barely covers broker fees and property taxes but areas like Seattle are easily double from 4 years ago. That bubble is going to pop.
It's popping. Been popping for a few months.. I'm hoping it's as bad as 2008 personally. November 30, 2018, 05:55:21 AM
Well if you bought some property to house miners back in 2016 then you should have seen a nice 20-100% gain in value in most parts of the US. 20% barely covers broker fees and property taxes but areas like Seattle are easily double from 4 years ago. That bubble is going to pop.
The thing I don't know is how crypto will fare when the US econ tanks. 1st Satoshi being minted in 2009 when the markets tanked but BTC didn't have the GPU bull run until 2011 (2013 if you discount the 2011 run).
It could get really ugly if people liquidate coin holdings to pay real world bills. What, Chase doesn't take Litecoin for mortgage payments?
On the last BTC run in 2013 the alts ate it for 3 years. There's no guarantee history will repeat itself, and obviously we have different circumstances now but the graphs look mighty similar.
The thing I don't know is how crypto will fare when the US econ tanks. 1st Satoshi being minted in 2009 when the markets tanked but BTC didn't have the GPU bull run until 2011 (2013 if you discount the 2011 run).
It could get really ugly if people liquidate coin holdings to pay real world bills. What, Chase doesn't take Litecoin for mortgage payments?
On the last BTC run in 2013 the alts ate it for 3 years. There's no guarantee history will repeat itself, and obviously we have different circumstances now but the graphs look mighty similar.
November 30, 2018, 03:53:34 AM
https://coinshares.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Mining-Whitepaper-Final.pdf
Trends, Marginal Creation Cost, Electricity Consumption & Sources
Trends, Marginal Creation Cost, Electricity Consumption & Sources
November 30, 2018, 02:36:41 AM
Next BTC halving should either show some bullish signs or have some bull run 3-6 months after like the last halving. ETH was supposed to dethrone BTC and with all the poop BTC has gone through it remains king (from market cap side, maybe not development side).
This is the first time since 2011 I have nothing mining. No GPUs, no ASIC, not even my gaming laptop (which mined enough Monero to pay itself off back in the day). The RTX cards are trash from compute standpoint so I'm hoping AMD actually goes somewhere with 7nm.
Too bad real estate will probably crash same time as the next crypto run - I'll be spread too thin.
This is the first time since 2011 I have nothing mining. No GPUs, no ASIC, not even my gaming laptop (which mined enough Monero to pay itself off back in the day). The RTX cards are trash from compute standpoint so I'm hoping AMD actually goes somewhere with 7nm.
Too bad real estate will probably crash same time as the next crypto run - I'll be spread too thin.
real estate got some shitcoins too LOL
only buy the ones who is capable of passive income, either you are building something there or not...
lease or rent -->POS
working the land (like agricultural lands) -->POW
not an expert in real estate but analyzing is fun...
Startup capital is just so much higher..
you can also mine with them...solar, wind and hydro
November 30, 2018, 01:43:36 AM
I've had to replace almost all of my Gigabyte board fans - most of them have NMB 92mm case fans, just wired to 12VDC since the power consumption is low enough to not bother with PWM - those cards commonly run 50C or less even in a room in the low 80s F ambient temp.
A few have left over Delta 80mm fans from various retired CPU cooling setups, though I'm not going to waste the pair of 68CFM screamers on that duty.
Are you referring to the Windforce Gigabyte fans? Especially the 3 fans?
Yes, and both the 3-fan AND 2-fan versions - though the 3-fan ones seem to die faster.
I haven't had ALL of them die yet - but it's mighty close, think the only one I still have running is the 1080ti (which was the last or one of the last Gigabyte cards I ever bought).
Better than the ITX 1070 cards have turned out to be though - I've had 4 out of 5 of those COMPLETELY die at this point, even though the fan was still working.
The Aorus cards are still working fine, but those are ball-bearing and SHOULD last a long time.
Gigabyte RX470s (yes, the Auros are OK) - the worse of the lot - almost 40 pieces and counting with fans dead after a few months. I had to replace the fans with compatible OEM fans and gave up after while. Meanwhile the majority of the 470s in my AMD farm are the Sapphires - best fans so far and overall highly durable in tough mining conditions and also easy to mod - that Sapphire RX470 truly was the winner - cheap and good.
November 29, 2018, 05:21:05 PM
I've had to replace almost all of my Gigabyte board fans - most of them have NMB 92mm case fans, just wired to 12VDC since the power consumption is low enough to not bother with PWM - those cards commonly run 50C or less even in a room in the low 80s F ambient temp.
A few have left over Delta 80mm fans from various retired CPU cooling setups, though I'm not going to waste the pair of 68CFM screamers on that duty.
Are you referring to the Windforce Gigabyte fans? Especially the 3 fans?
Yes, and both the 3-fan AND 2-fan versions - though the 3-fan ones seem to die faster.
I haven't had ALL of them die yet - but it's mighty close, think the only one I still have running is the 1080ti (which was the last or one of the last Gigabyte cards I ever bought).
Better than the ITX 1070 cards have turned out to be though - I've had 4 out of 5 of those COMPLETELY die at this point, even though the fan was still working.
The Aorus cards are still working fine, but those are ball-bearing and SHOULD last a long time.
November 29, 2018, 08:15:13 AM
I love this analogy... and it's the same line of thought for myself. Want some of that sweet PoS rental units
Startup capital is just so much higher..
The shitcoin bags have shrunk in size just like the property bags in the financial crisis. But hey, hope they'll ultimately come back and the nice "rental" income will grow together with the underlying value!
November 29, 2018, 06:40:44 AM
Next BTC halving should either show some bullish signs or have some bull run 3-6 months after like the last halving. ETH was supposed to dethrone BTC and with all the poop BTC has gone through it remains king (from market cap side, maybe not development side).
This is the first time since 2011 I have nothing mining. No GPUs, no ASIC, not even my gaming laptop (which mined enough Monero to pay itself off back in the day). The RTX cards are trash from compute standpoint so I'm hoping AMD actually goes somewhere with 7nm.
Too bad real estate will probably crash same time as the next crypto run - I'll be spread too thin.
This is the first time since 2011 I have nothing mining. No GPUs, no ASIC, not even my gaming laptop (which mined enough Monero to pay itself off back in the day). The RTX cards are trash from compute standpoint so I'm hoping AMD actually goes somewhere with 7nm.
Too bad real estate will probably crash same time as the next crypto run - I'll be spread too thin.
real estate got some shitcoins too LOL
only buy the ones who is capable of passive income, either you are building something there or not...
lease or rent -->POS
working the land (like agricultural lands) -->POW
not an expert in real estate but analyzing is fun...
Startup capital is just so much higher..
November 29, 2018, 01:26:06 AM
..corsair AX1500i is a piece of shit...it will not function as a single rail even if the software says so, the engineers even designed a sensitivity crap that if my internet connection had a hiccup, it triggers the protection even it is pulling just around 1000w....hx1200 is better-no issues, AX1500i might work with a server that is just pulling ~500w or less as a masternode (might be good, PSU fan not spinning due to low temp/power).
I've had to replace almost all of my Gigabyte board fans - most of them have NMB 92mm case fans, just wired to 12VDC since the power consumption is low enough to not bother with PWM - those cards commonly run 50C or less even in a room in the low 80s F ambient temp.
A few have left over Delta 80mm fans from various retired CPU cooling setups, though I'm not going to waste the pair of 68CFM screamers on that duty.
Corsair AX (i) series is junk - the AX series WITHOUT the (i) are good units, Seasonic SnowSilent (which is the Platinum version of the Seasonic X series) clones except they use a Corsair-specific pinout on the PS side of the cables and a Corsair-specific ball-bearing fan.
I have no clue why they use the AX name on 2 such totally different power supply designs - it's misleading and VERY confusing.
Are you referring to the Windforce Gigabyte fans? Especially the 3 fans?
I think I've had all of them fail. Every single one.
I had some on warranty and basically it wasn't even worth shipping them to the manufacture because the replacement fans also failed shortly after.
Tried Aliexpress and they were either remanufacteured and failed or new but failed also.
What I did was basically use floss, yank out the fan blade and add a drop of mineral oil to the bearing and snap the blade back in. I got so good at doing this I could do it while it was in the rig even.
It usually lasted either 30 days or 6 months. But during the $5/day/ZEC profit, it was worth the hassle.
I didn't like attaching case fans to the GPUs because they make the rig extra bulky and I run out of room. But that usually always kept the GPUs running extra cold.
November 28, 2018, 10:53:32 PM
As for 1000 watt atx psus they all die in under 5 years unless you do 40-60% of rated load.
The corsair 1500i works great at 850 watts and all cards set to 180 watts 2 cables for each gpu.
at 1200 plus it dies
The corsair 1500i works great at 850 watts and all cards set to 180 watts 2 cables for each gpu.
at 1200 plus it dies
hmmm...i don't know but i have a 3x 1080ti rig, i think that is already below 1000w....that's why i said up thread that i'm trying ~ 500w setup
there are probably versions of ax1500i since that model is out in the market for quite a while...what you have is probably better.
November 28, 2018, 10:34:52 PM
Next BTC halving should either show some bullish signs or have some bull run 3-6 months after like the last halving. ETH was supposed to dethrone BTC and with all the poop BTC has gone through it remains king (from market cap side, maybe not development side).
This is the first time since 2011 I have nothing mining. No GPUs, no ASIC, not even my gaming laptop (which mined enough Monero to pay itself off back in the day). The RTX cards are trash from compute standpoint so I'm hoping AMD actually goes somewhere with 7nm.
Too bad real estate will probably crash same time as the next crypto run - I'll be spread too thin.
This is the first time since 2011 I have nothing mining. No GPUs, no ASIC, not even my gaming laptop (which mined enough Monero to pay itself off back in the day). The RTX cards are trash from compute standpoint so I'm hoping AMD actually goes somewhere with 7nm.
Too bad real estate will probably crash same time as the next crypto run - I'll be spread too thin.
real estate got some shitcoins too LOL
only buy the ones who is capable of passive income, either you are building something there or not...
lease or rent -->POS
working the land (like agricultural lands) -->POW
not an expert in real estate but analyzing is fun...
November 28, 2018, 10:15:54 PM
As for 1000 watt atx psus they all die in under 5 years unless you do 40-60% of rated load.
The corsair 1500i works great at 850 watts and all cards set to 180 watts 2 cables for each gpu.
at 1200 plus it dies
The corsair 1500i works great at 850 watts and all cards set to 180 watts 2 cables for each gpu.
at 1200 plus it dies
November 28, 2018, 07:49:11 PM
Power supply reliability:
1) Antec - 3ea 1300W platinum P/S - All have failed. Maybe lasted 1 - 3 years. Unable to contact customer service for a return. One dead, two lost a SATA connection.
2) EVGA - no problems
3) Rosewell -2ea 1500W - Based on Phil's purchase awhile back. No problems.
1) Antec - 3ea 1300W platinum P/S - All have failed. Maybe lasted 1 - 3 years. Unable to contact customer service for a return. One dead, two lost a SATA connection.
2) EVGA - no problems
3) Rosewell -2ea 1500W - Based on Phil's purchase awhile back. No problems.
November 28, 2018, 05:48:12 PM
PSU-wise, I've had only one constant: the EVGA 850GQ are crap. I've had three fail on me. Well technically the third one is still working despite one of the socket being burnt. The G2's are supposedly a totally different ballgame when it comes to reliability apparently. I've only got one and it's been fine for the past year.
I've got an XFX and a Silverstone still chugging from the 2014 days.
I've got an XFX and a Silverstone still chugging from the 2014 days.
The EVGA G2 line (and the G2L line) are good reliable units. I've got a few of them, they're not my #1 preference (the 850 in specific has fewer connections that are usable than the Seasonic X850 or SS860 do) but the reliability has been 100% for the ones I do own (I've had ONE X-series Seasonic die, but that's out of quite a few MORE of them and it was replaced promptly by Newegg under warrenttee).
I don't have a lot of Silverstone power supplies, but never had any of those die either - the ones I do have are all "specialty" small level stuff for small-form-factor cases (one SFX and a few TFX).
November 28, 2018, 05:44:14 PM
..corsair AX1500i is a piece of shit...it will not function as a single rail even if the software says so, the engineers even designed a sensitivity crap that if my internet connection had a hiccup, it triggers the protection even it is pulling just around 1000w....hx1200 is better-no issues, AX1500i might work with a server that is just pulling ~500w or less as a masternode (might be good, PSU fan not spinning due to low temp/power).
I've had to replace almost all of my Gigabyte board fans - most of them have NMB 92mm case fans, just wired to 12VDC since the power consumption is low enough to not bother with PWM - those cards commonly run 50C or less even in a room in the low 80s F ambient temp.
A few have left over Delta 80mm fans from various retired CPU cooling setups, though I'm not going to waste the pair of 68CFM screamers on that duty.
Corsair AX (i) series is junk - the AX series WITHOUT the (i) are good units, Seasonic SnowSilent (which is the Platinum version of the Seasonic X series) clones except they use a Corsair-specific pinout on the PS side of the cables and a Corsair-specific ball-bearing fan.
I have no clue why they use the AX name on 2 such totally different power supply designs - it's misleading and VERY confusing.
November 28, 2018, 05:37:26 PM
Is it really worth mining if you have 8 cent power however. You make a nickel a day per GPU but you risk burning out your GPUs or killing your fans. Once your fans go you will need to RMA them and pay for shipping or buy replacement fans on Aliexpress or eBay for like $20.
Hence it's better to just shut off the gear and wait until the $1/day/GPU days return, if ever.
Hence it's better to just shut off the gear and wait until the $1/day/GPU days return, if ever.
I'm making quite a bit more than "a nickle per day per GPU" - except on the R9 290s (they're still underwater right now, but it's close) and possibly the pair of 960s I still have mining.
On the other hand, I'm not paying 8 cents/KWH.
I also do NOT expect to see $1/day/GPU back anytime soon, if ever.
November 28, 2018, 05:21:19 PM
Next BTC halving should either show some bullish signs or have some bull run 3-6 months after like the last halving. ETH was supposed to dethrone BTC and with all the poop BTC has gone through it remains king (from market cap side, maybe not development side).
This is the first time since 2011 I have nothing mining. No GPUs, no ASIC, not even my gaming laptop (which mined enough Monero to pay itself off back in the day). The RTX cards are trash from compute standpoint so I'm hoping AMD actually goes somewhere with 7nm.
Too bad real estate will probably crash same time as the next crypto run - I'll be spread too thin.
This is the first time since 2011 I have nothing mining. No GPUs, no ASIC, not even my gaming laptop (which mined enough Monero to pay itself off back in the day). The RTX cards are trash from compute standpoint so I'm hoping AMD actually goes somewhere with 7nm.
Too bad real estate will probably crash same time as the next crypto run - I'll be spread too thin.
November 28, 2018, 07:25:54 AM
i hope you guys diversified outside of crypto..
9th altcoin thread..show your mining garbage/trash hehe
9th altcoin thread..show your mining garbage/trash hehe
9th thread ... rig-porn
My first rig was a 5 x 980ti called Brutus circa end-2015 - mining ETH at 150Mhs... ETH was like $2 bucks.
Eventually I went all in and made 5 of these rigs.... 750Mhs of ETH... powerful stuff back then.
Solo mining .... 10-12 coins per day.... sigh
lesson...gotta find the next big thing...hope all of us can get a huge chunk of it for the next shit show hehe
clearly we have different coins in mind hehe, it is all about the multipliers x10000, x1000, x100, x10 a lot of X's on a lot of things .. sometimes x10 and x5 is not good enough
November 28, 2018, 06:36:46 AM
i hope you guys diversified outside of crypto..
9th altcoin thread..show your mining garbage/trash hehe
9th altcoin thread..show your mining garbage/trash hehe
9th thread ... rig-porn
My first rig was a 5 x 980ti called Brutus circa end-2015 - mining ETH at 150Mhs... ETH was like $2 bucks.
Eventually I went all in and made 5 of these rigs.... 750Mhs of ETH... powerful stuff back then.
Solo mining .... 10-12 coins per day.... sigh
lesson...gotta find the next big thing...hope all of us can get a huge chunk of it for the next shit show hehe
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