Topic: 94 year old healthy woman gets the vaccine. - page 3. (Read 1455 times)

We are finding out that standard medical sites are and have been the conspiracy sites all along. franky1 is a conspiracy theorist.

How can you tell? In the range of 99% of people who visit the medical would have been fine without the visit by using a little common sense about their malady. In fact, many of those people were persuaded into some kind of procedure that harmed them more than they would have been helped if they had done nothing. When you consider the millions of people who die under doctors' care, and the $billions of dollars they pay the doctors to die, it's turning out that the enemy is really the medical.

attacks on data are widespread among the power structures..
hmmm
no the attacks are widespread amung the conspiracy theorists...against the power structures

note the difference

when you stop relying on conspiracy sites fighting talk... and realise that real doctors treating real patients making real medical reports.. has more reliable rate at much higher than your foolish mis-informed 1%
you start to realise those having severe adverse affects that require hospital treatment are pretty much 99.9% accurate.

yea only 1% of crybabies cry about the insignificant 'boo boos'. but that does not mean the severe adverse reports are too only 1% accurate

You can use the ignore button with me. I've used it sometimes but just with trolls or people who are not respectful enough when they argue, not just because they don't agree with me.

I'll give you that an older person has a relative high chance of dying. It was said to be 20% in the early months of the pandemic but this figure has now been lowered. But whatever, even if it is 10%, it is a relatively high figure.

What is false is the second thing you say. Yes, there have been people who have died after getting the vaccine. Certainly in percentage less than 10% and it is not clear if they died because of the vaccine or for some other reason.

There are people in the forum who say that there are a lot of people dying everywhere because of the vaccine but you ask them for links to back what they say and they do not provide them.

I've been expecting something like this for a number of years and have always planned to have a rural place where I can get by with, hopefully, just a few years of house arrest.  When the expected 'turning' showed up in 2020, it just accelerated my plans somewhat (my already constructed rural place being in the wrong country.)  This stuff has been massively predicatively programmed for a while, and the predictive programming had become more precise by the year.

Don't cry when you are sterilized and dying of cancer while you suffer through a variety of immune system dysfunctions.  Just know that you are doing your part to 'save the earth' while you enjoy your '3D printed mystery meat'.  And remember Big Brother Bill Loves You and we are all so blessed that he used his fortune to 'heal the Earth'.

Elderlies are not being forced to take the vaccine as many complications can happen with regards to their age. There will be consent regarding elders being vaccinated.

There are many people in here in this forum, who were already vaccinated and didn't shown to be dead. I also know many relatives who are all vaccinated and working right now as part of the frontiliners.

You are getting too hype in many conspiracies that solutions such as this  was not an option to you. But don't cry when new protocols such as establishments prohibiting unvaccinated from entering their premises. Because one such believes that this vaccine is the way for us to go back to normal.

It would be nearly trivial to tease out the truth of the effects of the vaccine using some basic statistics if one had reliable data.  This is why attacks on data are so pernicious and widespread among the power structures who hold the reigns of control at this time (e.g., the CDC and by extension, those who influence that entity.)

The best that any earnest independent analysts can get is VAERS data with a reporting rate which runs at under 1% and has no reporting standards whatsoever.  There is no way that this is an accident.

Wsup Jack, nice to have you around here again.

You’re totally right as you’re using critical thinking as the way to get to your solution. The regular infection has a very high chance of killing someone who is older (I’ll say 65+) while the vaccine has not killed anyone after usage of it.

Sometimes it sadly just isn’t worth trying to explain to some people. The ignore button is very helpful and used liberally on P&S

There so many pages here but if you're still keeping track of this, in March for the past 5 years 8000-12000 people die a week. A high number of them are likely old people so many people may have had the vaccine and subsequently died of something unrelated (because that's what happens when you give a vaccine to someone with a 1 in 3 chance of dying per year they're alive - in their 90s).

@badecker, as someone who's had covid, that can also fuck up a lot of shit. How do we know the vaccine isn't safer than the virus with infection likely being inevitable for most people? Both the virus and the vaccine infect everyone with a very similar thing, the difference is one doesn't multiply rapidly (or at all).

funny part is .. its your cannabis salesmen group that are the ones only treating the symptoms of cancer..
funny part is .. telling people to go home and just eat better is not treating the disease
                      eating a carrot and lettuce wont cure cancer

funny part is that your constant fear of vaccines has no bases in science. so i guess your real fear is just the needle. or the fact that its not your male masseuse that is inserting something into your body.

Unfortunately for millions of people, medicine really needs to learn how things work. They are part-way there, but they are looking only at the part that they have discovered, and not at their little part in the whole scheme of things.

For example. When Dr. Max Gerson found that late-stage cancer patients were expelling potassium from their bodies, unlike the rest of the medical community, he found the answer. The sick body was mistaking potassium for sodium, and expelling the wrong thing. So, he added potassium to his cancer cure, and it worked. When the medical found that it worked, they kicked Dr. Gerson out of the States.

It's way past time that you and the medical found out what is really going on. The Covid exosome is simply a messenger telling the rest of the body that there is a problem with its nutrition. And when the problem grows into a disaster, the Covid exosome multiplies to tell more of the body that there is an emergency.

Then the medical comes along and fights the symptoms, and screws up the whole process of nature. Sure, it stops the Covid exosome overwork... sometimes. But in the end, the person doesn't become healthier. He becomes weaker so that the next time he is hit with the warning system, he is immediately overwhelmed by it. It's called a cytokine storm, and it's really an immune reaction to two contradicting maladies: 1) a nutritional or toxic condition in the body; 2) the vaccine telling the body that there is no problem, when the immune system knows differently.

People and doctors are waking up to this stuff. Why aren't you, f-1? Stubbornly going on your way with medical things that haven't been working for decades.


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no.. thats not how it works
they can actually see by witnessing the symptoms and progression of a ilness event to know which caused which

also the more times you have to multiply the less you will result as being covid positive
so 5 particles= negative as it would require more cycles to amplify it to detectable levels than the threshold

yes emphasis more cycle=less positive result..
..
they can see the pneumonia is caused by covid by doing xrays and also bronchial lavage tests, biopsies and also the symptomology.
yes medical doctors in hospitals have equipment and training.
-just dont rely on your male masseuse who wears a costume.. he doesnt have the same tools/skills

you really need to learn some basics about modern medicine. things even a 5year old can learn.
dont get medical advice from your male masseuse

but atleast learn this very basic fact
more cycles=less positive. after 35 cycles.. they deem it negative. and dont cycle any further than 40.
the reason they do it an extra 5 times . well its just a nice round number to stop at

^^^ You are so deceptive. For example, some poor guy is dying in the hospital. His cancer and diabetes have been killing him for a long time. Then he gets pneumonia. His doctor thinks he might have Covid. So he swabs him.

The patient happened to have 5 Covid viruses in him. The swab took one of them, so now he has 4. The PCR multiplies it to look like he has billions of Covid viruses in him. He dies from cancer and diabetes, weakened beyond the point of no return by the pneumonia.

Suddenly he died of Covid. Why? Because he had 4 Covid viruses in him, and died of comorbidities. Guess what? The Covid wasn't a comorbidity at 4 virus particles. But the doctor will never know, because the PCR multiplied it into something way beyond the stars.

The comorbidities are a bunch of diseases and maladies. But nobody knows that they include Covid in any of the so-called Covid cases. Could they be Covid? Anything is possible. But it's highly unlikely... because the PCR test multiplies them so that nobody knows how much Covid any patient has in him.


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firstly.. your '94% comorbidity" narrative is you talking about some conspiracy site script you read..
its obvious because you have yet to actually check the CDC website to see what CC actually says and instead you just say "lets hope the CDC"

maybe actually stop auto-dumbing yourself down by just taking conspiracy narratives as your own
if you really want to continue looking at conspiracy sites.. atleast read them.. THEN CHECK THEM

if people died of just diabetes.. their death of diabetes would be their mortality cause..
morbidity means a disease type
co-mobidity means where there are more than one disease types co-existing in one person

learn the difference between the 3 different words
co-morbidity, morbidity, mortality
 
the whole point of the term c-omorbidity is because they died due to covid. with complications of another thing.. aka a co-morbidity(another disease)

no where does it say in the CDC report that people died by 94% by just the illnesses under the category 'co-morbidity'
no where does it say their mortality cause was the co-morbidity

so grow up.wise up. start researching. and stop being ignorant and using ignorance as 'hope'

6% died from Covid.

94% died from comorbidities, which really means Covid.

So, 100% died from Covid.

Let's hope the CDC really sees it this way, and really mans it this way. Why? It's about time that their deceptiveness is brought out into the open by what they say. It's time that all people see that they speak a different language, and then dump it on the public as though it is something exactly the opposite of what they really meant.

And, really, thank you for explaining the simple deceptiveness of the CDC, and how you join them in their deceptiveness.

If you and the CDC can talk this way, there is no reason to believe anything that you or they say. Time to shut medicine down, and replace it with nutrition, so that we can keep our money and live healthy lives.

You are right, I agree with the case you mentioned, other effects that are caused after vaccination, nausea, dizziness and feeling hungry, grandmother who has turned 94 years should be free from the vaccination program.

The rich are getting richer and the vaccination business is promising, no matter how many people suffer the effects, the world is out of control anymore, the pharmacy is the mastermind of all today's troubles.

Negative and positive covid cannot know anymore, where is covid and where is not covid is not clear, vaccines do not solve the problem.

co-morbitities does not mean what you say.
maybe get dictionary

co-morbidies from the cdc means it was a covid death where the person had other conditions that didnt help with their covid illness,
EG
diabetes makes sticky blood and slows healing and immune response and doesnt allow immune cells to flow around body as quick.
the person dying of covid with diabetes means they couldnt fight off covid nor repair the covid damage before the covid damage killed them
it was not diabetes that caused their illness where covid was an inert particle
it was covid causing the illness and diabetes not helping them fight it off

lets give an example
someones drowning in a pool. no intervention.. they die
someone else intervenes.
2 options
they help lift the person out and perform CPR
or
they push person deeper in the water. ensuring their death

lets take option 2
your claim is that the person didnt drown. water didnt get in their lungs and stop them from breathing but instead they died from 'shoulder grab'
shoulder grab by itself does not kill.

do you get that?
..
the cdc did say its covid. and then listed which comorbidities put more pressure on the covid patient whereby they couldnt fight covid and thus died.

it doesnt require being a 'CDC controller' to know common sense...
.. but maybe thats your problem...
.. you avoid common sense because you think its only something people above you should have.
.. by you deluding yourself that someone opposing you must be above you is another flaw of yours
.. its a form of self harm. psychologically.
.. maybe you know you dont understand things, and want to blame other people for your flaws
.. maybe you hate yourself and gave up trying to exercise your mind, to instead just entertain your delusions
.. maybe your just bored and just want to fangirl some influencer you have a crush on

either way. your delusions help no one and wont win you any fame or notoriety

^^^ You seem to really be hung up on yourself. Who are you? Are you the CDC controller that you can override what the CDC says? Don't you realize that when the CDC says 'comorbidities', they mean illnesses other than Covid? If people really died from Covid, in this big 94% CDC correction, wouldn't the CDC have said Covid?

The CDC wants to call Covid a morbidity. So they say that the 94% died from comorbidities. 'Co' to what? 'Co' to the Covid virus. If they were going to say that the people died from the Covid morbidity, they would have said that. But they didn't, because they found that the people died from morbidities that were co to the Covid virus.

As far as triggers go, influenza might be a comorbidity of Covid, because people die from influenza at times. Likewise pneumonia. Likewise, gunshot wounds and car crashes. Everything involved is a trigger, especially if people die from those things sometimes.

But the CDC said that those 94% died from a comorbidity. Comorbidity to what? Comorbidity to Covid.

If a person had cancer and heart disease and diabetes as well as Covid, what did he die from if he died from a comorbidity to Covid? Everything works together to weaken a sick patient. But the CDC said he died from a comorbidity to Covid, and not from Covid... or they would have said so in their re-evaluation of the deaths.

How do we know this? The other percent. The other percent is the 6% who died from Covid. They had Covid bad! Maybe their diabetes was the trigger. Maybe their heart disease was the trigger (Something like 98& of people have heart disease.). But the CDC said these people died from the Covid that they had, not comorbidities to Covid.

Let's say a person died from Covid. The CDC said so. People who are smokers die from lung cancer now and then. Covid is a comorbidity of lung cancer. A person might have both. Both are comorbidities of each other. So, which one did the person die from? In the case of the 6%, the CDC said Covid. In the case of the 94%, the CDC said something else.

Why do you want people to believe in Covid deaths so badly that you contradict the CDC? Were you kicked out of the medical, and you have a grudge against them? Are you really a German spy in the UK, left over from WW2, trying your dangedest to win WW2 for the NAZIs after all this time?

Your pedestal isn't high enough, yet. Keep building it higher, so that when you crash and burn, it'll be over once and for all.

you really have no grasp of logic and common sense..

those dying from covid. where say they had diabetes. dont die from a leg amputation triggered from the diabetes(known diabetes death symptom/cause) for it to be a diabetes related death.

they die from covid. where their body cant cope with the covid symptoms due to diabetes

there are known symptom progression from the trigger event to the death. where it can be seen what triggered it.

yes allergic reaction the day you have vaccine. can be seen as vaccine caused
no a allergic reaction 2 weeks after a vaccine cant be seen as vaccine caused

the 94% of people with co-morbidities show that those co-morbidities complicated their covid
EG alzheimers makes people not know where they are, get confused. pull out their nasal cannula and try getting out of bed and cause themselves to suffocate due to the damage covid done to their lungs
they end up unable to control their breathing and pass out. and passaway
they didnt die from confusion. they died from oxygen depravation due to the covid lung damage
EG obesity. people dont die from eating. they die from covid where their body cant cope under the strain
(big people=more cells=bigger organs=need more oxygen=die easier if lack of oxygen)

That just shows you how dangerous the vaccine is. At least the virus doesn't kill anybody on the spot. And most of those who died from it would have not died from it if they were nutritionally sound.

However, that's exactly the way you are playing the comorbidity game. The 94% who died from something else, but had Covid in their system along with all kinds of other things, died from the Covid 'trigger'... you say. But all of a sudden this doctor died of a comorbidity without having any trigger.

Unfortunately, we can't go back and do it the other way just to see what would have happened. The doctor gets the shot. He dies. Blame it on the comorbidity. But blame the 94% that the CDC said died of a comorbidity as cause of death, blame theirs on the Covid trigger, when, if it was a trigger, it could have been one of many triggers.

You are about as duplicitous as they come.

covid deaths have a known symptom list from diagnoses to death.
EG it starts with fever/cough then breathing issues. covid tests. pneumonia. xrays that show the pneumonia. then the progression of oxygen issues and then organ failure
yep known symptoms.

a gunshot wound where the person tested positive for covid but only has a fever and the death was due to blood loss from the gun shot wound and not from viral pneumonia lung damage. depriving oxygen.. wont be a covid death

its common sense.

if your walking down a side walk and some one pokes you.. then 15 minutes later you decide to jump infront a car. and die due to impact injuries.. the death would be caused by car accident. not the poke

if someone poked you so hard they pushed you into a car. then your family can say it was due to the poke

common sense

he didnt have any vaccine side effects/symptoms. he died from a heart failure known to be linked to his heart issues. the vaccine didnt ware him out. as his family knew he was not warn out by the vaccine prior