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Topic: 94 year old healthy woman gets the vaccine. - page 7. (Read 1440 times)

legendary
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February 27, 2021, 03:54:43 PM
#62
So now you're trying to tell us that we must have faith in what professionals say
I'm saying the exact opposite. You are the one saying "Have faith in what this person tells you". I'm saying "Here are the links to the trials".

It's OK to admit you were wrong and that there is no evidence to support your claim that the vaccine causes other diseases.
legendary
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February 27, 2021, 03:40:40 PM
#61
I've already been vaccinated, thanks.

An interview is not evidence either. Links to large randomized control trials please.

So now you're trying to tell us that we must have faith in what professionals say, because the evidence doesn't mean anything to us ignorant people anyway. But that's part of the point. It is the professional people who Bigtree interviews who are the evidence themselves through what they have been doing and saying... at least they are the evidence for those of us who aren't knowledgeable enough to follow the actual medical studies.

And it is Big Pharma who is using bad faith, because they can't provide the safety studies required by law, which they would provide if they were using good faith. Odds are that they haven't done them.

What does that sound like to you? Sounds to me like the whole medical is a bunch of lying crooks, full of bad faith regarding the law and our health.

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legendary
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February 27, 2021, 03:32:42 PM
#60
I've already been vaccinated, thanks.

An interview is not evidence either. Links to large randomized control trials please.
legendary
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February 27, 2021, 03:18:44 PM
#59
A video blog by a deranged anti vax conspiracy nut is not evidence. I'll keep waiting.

If you wait long enough, you might miss the vaccine, and be saved.

You don't realize that Del Bigtree is simply a "journalist." He interviews loads of professionals, doctors and professors, and they tell it like it is.

You are doing yourself an injustice.

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legendary
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February 27, 2021, 03:13:40 PM
#58
A video blog by a deranged anti vax conspiracy nut is not evidence. I'll keep waiting.
legendary
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February 27, 2021, 02:39:43 PM
#57
You claimed the COVID vaccine causes people to catch other diseases. Present the evidence to support your claim. Failure to do so means you are lying.


Only if you want to call illness and death "other diseases."


CORONAVIRUS: WHAT THEY AREN'T TELLING YOU



Expert Scientist and M.D. Weigh in on Coronavirus Chaos; An Injured Adult on the Next ‘Ex-Vax Files’; NJ State Assemblyman Jamel Holley Joins Del In-Studio


CORONAVIRUS: WHAT THEY AREN'T TELLING YOU

https://www.brighteon.com/105ddb05-07ab-4ef8-8e08-e029dbe5e75c



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legendary
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February 27, 2021, 02:14:52 PM
#56
You claimed the COVID vaccine causes people to catch other diseases. Present the evidence to support your claim. Failure to do so means you are lying.
legendary
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February 27, 2021, 01:56:56 PM
#55
As I thought, no evidence for safety, or comparison of with the many nutritional and other, simpler medicines that work better, safely.

paracetemol has been around for many many decades. but it is not a cure for a gunshot.
it wont prevent gunshots

a malaria drug that handles parasites in the gut wont help virus in the lung


Interesting that you should say that. Standard f-1 distraction. Guns have been around for many years, but they don't cure gunshot wounds, either.

So, let's get some studies about the things that vaccines shoot and kill. Oh wait. Previous posts in this thread, and in many other threads, show links to some of those studies.

In fact, doctors and nurses around the world are warning against those things. In fact, the US government made rulings about there being such studies over 30 years ago. And nobody in Big Pharma can even come up with one study throughout the more than 30 years.

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legendary
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February 27, 2021, 01:25:19 PM
#54
As I thought, no evidence for safety, or comparison of with the many nutritional and other, simpler medicines that work better, safely.

paracetemol has been around for many many decades. but it is not a cure for a gunshot.
it wont prevent gunshots

a malaria drug that handles parasites in the gut wont help virus in the lung

they tried it. it didnt work. people are still getting severely ill, needing to be intubated and dying. if there was a cure they would have used it
full member
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February 27, 2021, 01:20:20 PM
#53
As I thought. No evidence for position, just mindless ramblings. Glad you finally understand that the vaccine is safe though.

As I thought, no evidence for safety, or comparison of with the many nutritional and other, simpler medicines that work better, safely.

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Vaccine is not a medicine, its a preventive measure for the virus. simple knowledge my dear.
legendary
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February 27, 2021, 12:05:46 PM
#52
As I thought. No evidence for position, just mindless ramblings. Glad you finally understand that the vaccine is safe though.

As I thought, no evidence for safety, or comparison of with the many nutritional and other, simpler medicines that work better, safely.

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legendary
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February 27, 2021, 12:00:46 PM
#51
As I thought. No evidence for position, just mindless ramblings. Glad you finally understand that the vaccine is safe though.
legendary
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Merit: 1373
February 27, 2021, 11:37:58 AM
#50
Well, thank you. Now that we have all this info, we can compare it with how many of them got sick from the vaccine, and for how long, and how many other things they caught that they wouldn't have gotten.
Certainly. Please provide a link to the data which show millions of people "catching other things" because of the vaccine. I'm sure you have those data to hand. No way you are just making stuff up, right!? Roll Eyes

Good. Now that we know how safe this so-called vaccine is, especially when comparing the safety and effectiveness to all the nutritional controls, we can safely cross the vaccine off our list.

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legendary
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February 27, 2021, 11:34:16 AM
#49
Well, thank you. Now that we have all this info, we can compare it with how many of them got sick from the vaccine, and for how long, and how many other things they caught that they wouldn't have gotten.
Certainly. Please provide a link to the data which show millions of people "catching other things" because of the vaccine. I'm sure you have those data to hand. No way you are just making stuff up, right!? Roll Eyes
legendary
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Merit: 1373
February 27, 2021, 11:27:35 AM
#48
This probably really does have some meaning to somebody somewhere. But by the time we figure out what the meaning is, and compare it with all the sideways potential and possible meanings, it'l be the 25th century.
Documented infections - 46% reduction after 1 dose, 92% after 2 doses
Symptomatic infections - 57% reduction after 1 dose, 94% after 2 doses
Hospitalizations - 74% reduction after 1 dose, 87% after 2 doses
Severe disease - 62% reduction after 1 dose, 92% after 2 doses

Don't confuse your inability to understand the science as meaning the science is somehow flawed or inaccurate. The facts are very clear.

Well, thank you. Now that we have all this info, we can compare it with how many of them got sick from the vaccine, and for how long, and how many other things they caught that they wouldn't have gotten. But most of all, this tells us what happened 5 years down the road because of the vaccine, right?

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legendary
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February 27, 2021, 11:23:33 AM
#47
This probably really does have some meaning to somebody somewhere. But by the time we figure out what the meaning is, and compare it with all the sideways potential and possible meanings, it'l be the 25th century.
Documented infections - 46% reduction after 1 dose, 92% after 2 doses
Symptomatic infections - 57% reduction after 1 dose, 94% after 2 doses
Hospitalizations - 74% reduction after 1 dose, 87% after 2 doses
Severe disease - 62% reduction after 1 dose, 92% after 2 doses

Don't confuse your inability to understand the science as meaning the science is somehow flawed or inaccurate. The facts are very clear.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
February 27, 2021, 11:08:59 AM
#46
We have discussed many times here that no covid-19 vaccine is reliable and we should avoid it.
False. Largest study to date of 1.2 million people confirms Pfizer's vaccine is 94% effective: https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2101765

This probably really does have some meaning to somebody somewhere. But by the time we figure out what the meaning is, and compare it with all the sideways potential and possible meanings, it'l be the 25th century.

Results

Each study group included 596,618 persons. Estimated vaccine effectiveness for the study outcomes at days 14 through 20 after the first dose and at 7 or more days after the second dose was as follows: for documented infection, 46% (95% confidence interval [CI], 40 to 51) and 92% (95% CI, 88 to 95); for symptomatic Covid-19, 57% (95% CI, 50 to 63) and 94% (95% CI, 87 to 98); for hospitalization, 74% (95% CI, 56 to 86) and 87% (95% CI, 55 to 100); and for severe disease, 62% (95% CI, 39 to 80) and 92% (95% CI, 75 to 100), respectively. Estimated effectiveness in preventing death from Covid-19 was 72% (95% CI, 19 to 100) for days 14 through 20 after the first dose. Estimated effectiveness in specific subpopulations assessed for documented infection and symptomatic Covid-19 was consistent across age groups, with potentially slightly lower effectiveness in persons with multiple coexisting conditions.

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legendary
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February 27, 2021, 10:07:50 AM
#45
What I see in this topic are visceral positions that are closed to evidence. On any topic under debate I may have a prior opinion or a first opinion in view of the initial facts, but I am open to the fact that the evidence may change it.

The opposite is prejudice.

Here I see prejudices that are slapped in the face by reality and yet refuse to change.
legendary
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Merit: 18706
February 27, 2021, 08:47:05 AM
#44
We have discussed many times here that no covid-19 vaccine is reliable and we should avoid it.
False. Largest study to date of 1.2 million people confirms Pfizer's vaccine is 94% effective: https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2101765
legendary
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February 27, 2021, 07:54:58 AM
#43
My partner has a 94 year old friend. She is healthy and active, and has an alert mind. She has no health issues other than poor eyesight. Her daughter pushed her into having the Covid vaccine, even though she is self-isolating and gas no symptoms. Within 5 days she has been rushed to hospital with diarrhoea and other medical problems. This is yet another case of the murderous so-called health services that are pushing their poisons to enrich the pharma companies.

If she is healthy, she should not have opted to get vaccinated for covid-19. I wish her get well soon.  We have discussed many times here that no covid-19 vaccine is reliable and we should avoid it. The  pharma company are no longer the ones which are meant to save people life, they only want their business running at any cost.
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