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November 27, 2018, 06:40:28 AM
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I actually found this interesting story of a former addicted gambler who was able to use a bank application made specifically for those who are trying to fight their addiction to help his situation out and I thought sharing it to the community for further discussion would make some sense or if it can probably help someone to cure his or her addiction as well.

Tens of thousands of people have signed up to a new service from two mobile-only banks designed to help problem gamblers. One former addict says this "gambling block", available on the banks' apps, helped him beat his addiction.

"I'd be setting my alarm to wake up at 4am to do a first bet," says Danny Cheetham, who began placing bets in his early 20s.

"I'd plan my route to work so I could call in to a bookies which opened early for commuters."

Danny, who is now 29, found himself betting in bookies, on slot machines and online. He gambled a lot on football, which he doesn't even like.

He began relying on overtime from work and on payday loans. In the course of eight years, Danny, who's from Stockport, estimates he lost more than £50,000.

He sunk into depression and moved in with his dad as he could not afford to pay rent.

It was the death of his mum Christine in 2015 that he says was the turning point for him - but he was not able to kick his habit until he signed up to a gambling block with his bank, Monzo. The so-called challenger bank is a mobile-only version of a traditional bank.

Once the block is activated by the customer, it can spot any transaction that person might try to make with bookmakers - either online or in a shop - by using merchant category codes. It instantly stops the transaction from happening, before any money has left that customer's account.

If a customer is tempted to place a bet in the heat of the moment, there is a 48-hour cooling-off period before the block is switched off. There is also a daily limit on cash withdrawals.

Monzo CEO Tom Blomfield says the block was introduced because customers asked for it.

"We have a team of people who work with vulnerable customers and they were getting this feedback quite often" he says.

More than 25,000 customers have signed up to the bank's block since it went live in June.

"Not all of those were problem gamblers [but] about 8,000 people did have a history of gambling," says Mr Blomfield.

"We've... seen a 70% decline in their gambling transactions so [it's made] a really big impact."

Another challenger bank, Starling, is offering a similar type of block. It's gained 20,000 users since its launch in June.

The Royal College of Psychiatrists is calling on the big five high street banks - Lloyds, Santander, HSBC, RBS Group and Barclays - to offer the same type of service.

Doctor Henrietta Bowden-Jones told BBC Radio 4's Money Box: "If you are unable to access funds, this type of gambling block can save people's homes and their families."

The banks say protecting vulnerable customers is a priority and they are always looking at new ways to do that.

The Gambling Commission is talking to financial institutions about how to improve protection for problem gamblers.

Three years on from taking his first steps to beat his gambling addiction, Danny says he is happy.

"And I've actually got money in the bank which I never thought I'd have," he says.

"I'm well on target to being debt-free by my 30th birthday, which is my next one, and I just don't feel depressed or helpless like I used to."

He says he can now think about his future and - although he will have a bad credit file for up to six years - he says this will give him time to save for a deposit for his own place.

"I just don't feel like it's an endless battle any more."

It is crazy to see what gambling addiction can do to someone lookong at his story. Addiction is actually one hard thing to get out from and to know an app can really be of help is quite amazing. What do you think?

That's really an interesting article but what I have understood is that addiction is also hard to leave. What people should do is to have discipline and one thing that could help is this article. Only if one person is interested in changing his habit in gambling addiction.
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November 27, 2018, 03:26:40 AM
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And here I am with a bank app that will help me become a gambler much more easily.

My bank doesn't charge a single cent for sending money to one of the sportsbooks in my country. I can send money to that sportsbook, however big the amount is, for free. Also I can send money from that sportsbook to my account for free as well.

When the bank is closed after 17 pm the bank doesn't allow you to send money anywhere you want, for example I can't send money from my bank account to my wives bank account at nights. However I can send money to the sportsbook for free and than withdraw that from the sportsbook to my wife's account at anytime of the day I want. It is both free compared to charged and it is 24/7 anytime you want. They literally partnered together to make it easier for you to gamble.
I believe there should be more than one bank that are conducting business in the country you are living in, if you are finding it too tempting to send money to the sports books and gamble due to the zero transaction fees given by your bank, maybe you could consider switching your banking needs to another bank.
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November 27, 2018, 02:30:38 AM
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I think they have something that will help them to know the limitations for playing gambling, and the best is they can control how much money they want to use for the gambling game.
Control is something that we have to realize that an addicted gambler has lost already and for most people who know that already, how to gain that control back is something that they are eagerly looking for. I have seen a lot of gamblers try to visit shrinks, support groups and a lot of therapies just to be able to get out of it. As long as you are able to find something to control you when you cannot control yourself then it will always be of help until you are able to finally gain that control back, and this app of course sound like something that can be very helpful.

You are right, learning control ourselves is difficult, but we need to keep try because this can help us to prevent from greediness and we can also prevent from losing too much money. A gambler will know when the time to play and when the time to stop the game and leave the gambling places and this is because he can control himself from the gambling games itself. And if more people can control themselves in gambling games, then perhaps, the addicting person in gambling will also reduce.
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November 27, 2018, 01:09:09 AM
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This is perfect, but i do not think that it is going to apply to all the other people in here that are suffering a lot because of this.

Gambling is not something easy to threat, and you should know that.

Maybe this is just an advertisement, but it is something relevant too.



It is advertised as you said but it is done because it is very relevant. An app that can help to beat addiction what else people would require to help them self to stay away from such a addiction where you can lose everything of your life. If a certain percentage of people also get helped with this app nothing like it as it will bring back them to their normal life.
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November 26, 2018, 08:02:12 PM
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This is perfect, but i do not think that it is going to apply to all the other people in here that are suffering a lot because of this.
Yes, it is not applicable to all the people that are addicted to gambling. Some gamblers don't have the privilege on loaning to a bank.

Gambling is not something easy to threat, and you should know that.
Absolutely. It takes a lot of discipline and determination to quit gambling on your own. The lack of access to money maybe one reason why some quit gambling but there are some that were forced to do illegal activities just to acquire money to fulfill their need to gamble.
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November 25, 2018, 05:46:32 PM
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This is perfect, but i do not think that it is going to apply to all the other people in here that are suffering a lot because of this.

Gambling is not something easy to threat, and you should know that.

Maybe this is just an advertisement, but it is something relevant too.

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November 16, 2018, 05:05:58 AM
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Basically you are an addicted gambler. Grin

It does not matter if you are able to cope up and stop your addiction based on an app that stops you from wasting too much money. It works for some people and does not work for most people. If it does work for you then its good, it will help you form some social turmoil as well.

You dont want to waste your wife's money on gambling would you and then she when questions you what you did with that money you will have nowhere to go to. Its better to take it into your own hands and decide how to take care of bankroll. Sometimes just getting away from addictions is not easy but can be done if you are determined to.
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November 15, 2018, 04:32:58 PM
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Not heard of that one before but fast clearing is a general feature of modern banking.  Crypto doesnt have it all its own way, just normal accounts are improving in usability across all hours also.   However most accounts are still limited on weekends where as crypto never stops trading and processing because of its automation

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gambling addiction is as bad as any chemical one
The reason that could be true is the chemical reaction by the person in their brain can be very similar.   I'd say there is slightly more control possible but also that requires some solid change to habits and away from a circle of thinking that leads them to bet no matter what.   The bank blocks is smart and a good innovation by people to stop themselves acting rashly during the day when on the move only to regret their actions later that night when trying to pay for food, that level of no control must truely suck.

I dont think anyone in crypto is the worst, mainly because crypto should mean you are not borrowing.  I know its roughly possible but its really an immediate mistake to mix crypto with anything borrowed as the value alters too much already, its purely for convenience and playing with.  Anyone with that attitude right is already in a better place then the temptations of FIAT with its constant offers of 'free' loans
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November 15, 2018, 08:52:24 AM
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And here I am with a bank app that will help me become a gambler much more easily.

My bank doesn't charge a single cent for sending money to one of the sportsbooks in my country. I can send money to that sportsbook, however big the amount is, for free. Also I can send money from that sportsbook to my account for free as well.

When the bank is closed after 17 pm the bank doesn't allow you to send money anywhere you want, for example I can't send money from my bank account to my wives bank account at nights. However I can send money to the sportsbook for free and than withdraw that from the sportsbook to my wife's account at anytime of the day I want. It is both free compared to charged and it is 24/7 anytime you want. They literally partnered together to make it easier for you to gamble.
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November 14, 2018, 05:49:53 AM
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Not everyone has that willpower to stop by them self and due to which we have cure therapy etc so that they can bring such addicted people out of it else and anything related to it be an app, online based some learning or techniques which will help people to have self control is extremely important.
Most times, people who have not been in some high level of addiction will not understand what it means to lose control and the willpower not to gamble. A lot of people know they are addicted but actually what makes them addicted is their inability to control that urge any longer and which is one of the reasons why an app like this is actually a way anyone who have the zeal to want to change can make use of to at least, gain that control back in the long run. It will never be easy at first, but it is a thing of the mind, and as long as you start facing reality and comparing moments just like the guy in the OP, you sure will be able to speak to your own self.

I think they have something that will help them to know the limitations for playing gambling, and the best is they can control how much money they want to use for the gambling game.
Control is something that we have to realize that an addicted gambler has lost already and for most people who know that already, how to gain that control back is something that they are eagerly looking for. I have seen a lot of gamblers try to visit shrinks, support groups and a lot of therapies just to be able to get out of it. As long as you are able to find something to control you when you cannot control yourself then it will always be of help until you are able to finally gain that control back, and this app of course sound like something that can be very helpful.
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November 13, 2018, 04:39:41 AM
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Not everyone has that willpower to stop by them self and due to which we have cure therapy etc so that they can bring such addicted people out of it else and anything related to it be an app, online based some learning or techniques which will help people to have self control is extremely important.
Not having willpower is same as being dead due to addiction. I feel everyone can stop their addiction but the time taken will vary from one person to another. A rehabilitative cure might be needed for those who cannot stop gambling but most of the smaller cases can be handled with a mix of support and abstinence from internet.

In fact abstaining from internet access and phones can help a lot of the modern problems of the society. People became modern with new technology but failed to use the technology properly. Instead of relying on an app for everything they should do some self-debate and think about their actions.
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November 13, 2018, 02:45:44 AM
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Interesting read. I'm always I guess intrigued by these stories of gambling addiction. I see some of my friends in a similar situation, but because there are no casinos here, perhaps it doesn't get out of hand. But I do see that they access online just like me except they use credit card, or worse some mobile casinos let you use top up from mobile credit, so you basically can buy a credit top up, and then reload every time as a form of deposit. They have lost a lot of money and I see their mood goes down, they get depressed, but it doesn't last until next salary. I wonder if this type of app can be linked to any person without that bank?
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November 13, 2018, 01:54:17 AM
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I don't like this "so called" apps that can help with gambling addiction, or any other addiction. I don't gamble for some time already, after so much gambling with bitcoins and fiat. Cure is other activity, I'm so busy that I can't allow myself to spend couple hours sitting and gambling when I have so many things to do, when I'm free I can't wait to lay down and sleep, I rest when ever I find some free time.
You can talk about stopping, but if you don't find anything else to take your energy there isn't app that can help you. Find some activity where you will spend time, energy and you will stop with gambling.

Not everyone has that willpower to stop by them self and due to which we have cure therapy etc so that they can bring such addicted people out of it else and anything related to it be an app, online based some learning or techniques which will help people to have self control is extremely important.


That is right, at least with the app, a gambler can trying to learn about how to control themselves in gambling games. Besides that, with that app, I think they have something that will help them to know the limitations for playing gambling, and the best is they can control how much money they want to use for the gambling game.
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November 13, 2018, 01:01:47 AM
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I don't like this "so called" apps that can help with gambling addiction, or any other addiction. I don't gamble for some time already, after so much gambling with bitcoins and fiat. Cure is other activity, I'm so busy that I can't allow myself to spend couple hours sitting and gambling when I have so many things to do, when I'm free I can't wait to lay down and sleep, I rest when ever I find some free time.
You can talk about stopping, but if you don't find anything else to take your energy there isn't app that can help you. Find some activity where you will spend time, energy and you will stop with gambling.

Not everyone has that willpower to stop by them self and due to which we have cure therapy etc so that they can bring such addicted people out of it else and anything related to it be an app, online based some learning or techniques which will help people to have self control is extremely important.
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November 12, 2018, 07:39:20 AM
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I don't like this "so called" apps that can help with gambling addiction, or any other addiction. I don't gamble for some time already, after so much gambling with bitcoins and fiat. Cure is other activity, I'm so busy that I can't allow myself to spend couple hours sitting and gambling when I have so many things to do, when I'm free I can't wait to lay down and sleep, I rest when ever I find some free time.
You can talk about stopping, but if you don't find anything else to take your energy there isn't app that can help you. Find some activity where you will spend time, energy and you will stop with gambling.
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November 12, 2018, 04:42:13 AM
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The problem with blocking or banning yourself is that you can unblock or unban yourself. People can just open up a new account at another Bank and transfer gambling money from the one Bank that are blocked to the other Bank that are not blocked.

We had a similar situation with people banning themselves from Brick n mortar casinos, where they ban themselves and when they get desperate enough, just unban themselves again or simply switching to another casino where they are not banned.

Go to the real root of the problem and address that problem, before you start banning yourself or blocking your Bank accounts.  Roll Eyes

You're right it's best if the gambling industry will simply destroy itself but it's just not going to happen, isn't it?

This is a good feature that helps people in the heat of the moment, and of course they can always bank elsewhere or find other solutions to bypass this block, but if they self-exclude, use this App and block all sites and ask by email from every website they go to that they want a permanent block and closure etc. etc. - then it could be a very effective tool against gambling addiction.

Don't underestimate what Monzo did please.
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November 12, 2018, 04:23:44 AM
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The problem with blocking or banning yourself is that you can unblock or unban yourself. People can just open up a new account at another Bank and transfer gambling money from the one Bank that are blocked to the other Bank that are not blocked.

We had a similar situation with people banning themselves from Brick n mortar casinos, where they ban themselves and when they get desperate enough, just unban themselves again or simply switching to another casino where they are not banned.

Go to the real root of the problem and address that problem, before you start banning yourself or blocking your Bank accounts.  Roll Eyes
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November 11, 2018, 03:28:45 PM
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Wow, I can't believe that an app can actually be a cause for fighting addiction, nonetheless it helped out the addicted gambler, and this is the side effect of what gambling can do to us if we don't become cautious and be blinded with money that we can afford or lose, I need to know more about this app, I have a friend that is addicted to gambling as well, he almost spent 75% of his earnings through gambling and earned 20% out of that 75% that he spent on the casino and online gambling, I need to try this out for him before goes crazy and go total bankrupt.
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November 11, 2018, 07:49:02 AM
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It is crazy to see what gambling addiction can do to someone lookong at his story. Addiction is actually one hard thing to get out from and to know an app can really be of help is quite amazing. What do you think?
Gambling addiction really destroy someone's life. As a gambler myself, quitting/controlling is a hard thing to do if you don't have that determination. I found the story amazing as it is the financial institution that helps it clients to get out of gambling addiction. Here in our country, gambling addicts usually commits crime like robbery or thief just to have money to satisfy their desire to gamble. Sounds funny but it is really happening in our country and that is what gambling addiction does to a person. 
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November 11, 2018, 07:07:55 AM
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Banking app? Whoa that's quite unheard of, I know there are so many personal growth app out there that do help but never thought that a banking app will do the job perfect.

This is really great news I would say till the time it is helping people to get rid of their addiction and get back people on track. This way it would help people also to come out of addiction and have a good life rather than get stuck in the money making process from gambling .
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