Topic: A banking app helped me beat my addiction - page 5. (Read 1311 times)

This was an interesting story to read.  Most people with addictive habits are unable to quit on their own and need help in one form or another.  Quite a few people in my life have been addicted to drugs.  I know it's not gambling but you can draw a lot of similarities between the two.  For these type of people, the only thing that matters in their life is getting their next "fix".  Once they run out of money they will do anything to get more like theft, prostitution, deception, etc.

Correct, I think the article mentions what really motivated him to quit gambling for good. I mean for those addicted gamblers, it doesn't mean that a death in the family will be the main catalyst for us to quit. There must be a triggering point.

As in my case, I lost my job, so I have no money and I'm back to square one. I quit my gambling addiction in a snap, although i just play today in land based casino just for the kicks but definitely that one moment wherein I don't have money and I don't know where to go through and I don't want to experienced that again set off my brain to shutdown everything about my gambling addiction.

Yeah, quitting gambling is actually not an easy task on its own for someone who is addicted, so we have to take that into consideration and to have gotten to that stage, one way or the other for the person, there must have been a moment that would have really taken them aback to check on their life and see that things are not actually going right and in this case, this guy mentioned the death of his mother was the major factor that even sprouted it in him.

However just like barcode said, it is still all about the strong determination and I agree with what you said that an addict will always go to any length to just want to satisfy that urge, which I believe even as much as this tool can be helpful, it would take the person to even be ready to want to help him or herself.

I kinda agree with this, there definitely needs to be a strong will to quit their addiction, otherwise they'll just find other ways to get money.
When you're a real gambling addict, you need the help from your family/partner as well to help you manage your money.

An addict will do whatever he/she can to get more money. They'll lie, steal or find money somehow and this banking app wouldn't stop them if they really wanted to get their hands on money.
That said, I do think it can be a very helpful tool for someone who's determined to quit gambling.

After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction, if a person who is seriously addicted to gambling does not even have a strong perseverance and determination to quit gambling, I believe this banking app would not be able to help much too. This story shows how scary it is when someone became seriously addicted to gambling, they could end up paying debts for their whole life due to their gambling addiction, and basically their life would be ruin if they are not able to step out from it.

I think calling crypto gamblers degenerate is going a bit too far. A crypto gambler who becomes addicted is the same as an offline gambler who becomes addicted. I agree that chances of becoming greedy and addicted are far more by playing online than offline.

When you play online, the moment you finish your crypto and don't have anymore , you go to William Hill for example, fire up your credit card and continue to play. In the extreme event you may even link your bank account to the gambling site and lose a lot by becoming addicted.

This is something anyone who feels like the guy in the story in the beginning of the thread should ask help from companies who are specialised in removing the addiction from someone.

This is a great invention though and its something that needs to be encouraged. However, this would only work for someone who is trying to get all the help he can in other to quit gambling as that is what will lead you sign up in the first place. Its really out of place to give all the credence to the app but not the person who made the decision to seek for help. For an individual who is not convinced that he/she is addicted, nothing will work because to him, there is no problem that solution needs to be sourced.

The part I would give a credit to the app is realizing that most people who made decisions to quit are ruled by spur of the moment when the urge will be so high to gamble after which they fall back to the point realizing doing what they earlier made the decision not to do again but the moment the fund is not released, the urge tends to die down and in 48 hours, you will be appreciating that the fund was not released. Just like a chronic drinker who promised not to drink again, the moment alcohol is lying fallow, he tends to relapse. Also, this another eye opening technique that can be explored by anybody who is trying frantically to stop gambling or reduce it. Its is possible and there are avenues to seek help everywhere.

I’ve always supported this types of features and said on this board that all crypto sites should have responsible gambling features. In an ideal world, you should be able to control yourself but we know that’s not the case for some people and the consequences can be very harmful. So, this app and responsible gambling features in every gambling site are a must.

It's a great article and a great way to defeat gambling addiction, gambling addiction has become a serious problem, I had watched several rich people become bankrupt because of the gambling, the apps is great to stop people into gambling addiction, but for healing people from gambling addiction, the apps itself won't be enough, it will need the determination from the people and the support from other people

You got that right, bro.  It's so hard for non-addicts to understand what addiction is all about.  To people who've never experienced addiction, an addict just looks like a walking, breathing collection of really bad behaviors--which is exactly what it looks like.  But man, inside the addict's brain there's a driving force such that it's not possible to stop engaging in the addictive behavior(s).  Once you're addicted, you can't *usually* just stop drinking/drugging/gambling/whatever unless you get some help.

I have yet to read any posts here telling me how this application would help crypto gambling.  My impression is that the app won't be super effective in keeping people from gambling, but it certainly could help someone who really wants to stop and is motivated to.  If that's the case, every little thing helps.

Getting help is absolutely a good thing, but gamblers have been known to try to have friends and relatives hold their money, and I don't think that works very well.  If you're dead set on gambling, you can find a way to do it. 

Check out the movie Owning Mahony (great movie about gambling, BTW); there's a scene in it where he asks his friend at a casino to hold his chips--then after he runs out of money at a table, he comes back to the friend and basically yells at him and gets him to hand back the money.

I doubt no addicted gambler will definitely do such thing on letting others track on your spending when it comes to gambling even on members of the family unless if you are a type of person which
doesnt hide anything in all means but these are just on rare cases yet most people are way too similar when it comes to gambling activity, once addicted then there would always be a secretive behavior
and it would be obvious when its already severe.

Definitely a good idea to keep tracking of your expenses, not just for gambling, but for everyday life also. Surprisingly few people actually know how much money they've got coming in and going out, many of these people are actually net negative every week, but just don't track it so aren't aware. This can lead to a cliff drop moment where you suddenly realize you have absolutely no money. Better to stay on top of it now rather than have it smack you in the face at the worst of times.

Glad to hear your success bro.

This is really a very great story I must say and I am impressed that we can see people in this world who actually know they need help from being an addicted gambler. From the look of things, it is obvious that a lot of gamblers know what is good for them and how addicted they are, but their mindset has been tuned and fashioned in a way that it has affected their mental judgment into doing what is right from them and unless they are able to see something to pull them back and control them otherwise, instead of their impulse controlling them, then it would be hard to get out from.

It is glaring from here, that this guy really had something to spark his interest to want to get out and a good thing he was able to find something that could help.

That is a good idea. The 48 hours cooling off period and limit on withdrawal are good feature for someone who often lose control over his gambling activities. But, I doubt someone who are addicted to gambling would use these kind of apps for gambling.

Anyone who experiences losing a loved one would have a difficult time in life, whether they are an addict or not but the resulting things are probably either positive or negative. For addicts, they might want more of what they are addicted to, and at least Danny made the other path, to change and make it a turning point to improve. I think it is helpful to have that kind of feature in a bank where it detects those kinds of bets, but what is stopping him from using bitcoin as the currency? I hope he doesn't get addicted again.

I think you were half joking talking about "biggest degenerates", but I agree with your last sentence. Few people realize how much some "traders" lose on a daily basis. And I think an app similar to that in the OP would help some of them too.

Sooner or later an analogous app will be invented for crypto gambling, but it will be possible only if gambling sites will agree to cooperate by providing all their deposit addresses for a data base which the app will be using.

Come on, we all have things we are doing and someone who is an addict cannot turn out to be my own job when I have a lot to do to fend for myself and my family, so even while trying to help people, it takes some readiness to want to get out and something to put them in control when they even want to decide to go behind your back, and this is a very good app that can always help with that.

You have not been an addict before to understand or possibly come across some before, but if you eventually get to do, you will know how difficult it can be for anyone to pull them out of it, unless for interventions like this.

As long as you do not have any money to gamble, that is a restriction on its own, and gradually when you start seeing how much you are saving over time, you will possibly start getting your mind tuned back to reality and the harm gambling has actually caused you over time just like in this guy's case.

Trust me, there is always a limit to what everyone can help you achieve in your life, and there is absolutely no way everyone will be busy monitoring every step you take or following you around to know if you are heading to a casino or visiting a gambling site. You have probably not seen what addiction does to people, it somehow puts them in a hole of their own, and then take them out from reality entirely and if you read the OP, you will really be able to get that picture.

I do not see any problem with this app and it is a very good development but it would also take someone who is ready to want to get help and from the look of things, it seems that gamblers actually know their predicament, but how to get out from it most of the time, is usually their problem and having something like this which is smart to know what you are actually using your funds for, is always a good start, but like I said, if you are not ready to want to get help, nothing can help you.

Really great story, I think every bank should have features like that and not just for gambling.
I mean, so many people have problems with overspending in general, having the ability to temporarily lock away funds is really useful.

Don't forget that it's also possible to do this with Bitcoin. You can lock away coins in a time lock, if you really want to prevent yourself from spending too much.

Bitcoin time lock tutorial:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.24712087

Right! But one thing we need to understand is that, the blocks are requested by the people to be placed on their account. Bank is not taking the lead in such block because legally they can't unless a customer asks for it. So it's the customers who made a concise decision to reduce gambling.

What about the people who have not made a concise decision to come out of gambling addiction?? I can think of one way to fight such addiction, by visually representing the gambling spend against their holdings and debt amount. Such kind of visual representation are actually helpful in understanding your current financial situation and it will help one to make a decision based on their previous habits of  gambling spend. The visual representation can be like below,



Psychologists say, that "the part of the brain responsible for seeing is more powerful and have more control on your decision making ability”. It can identify any concerning trend more quickly and sends a signal to the brain that prompts to the decision to stop or change that trend. It will help such people who have not made a decision to quit or reduce gambling spend based on the concerning trend that they are able to see from their banking website or app. Food for thought!